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Michael Rossi

Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #75 on: February 10, 2010, 01:16:34 PM »
Ed

When you are reviewing the drawings can you tell me the oldest drawing you have that illustrates grassing lines? The question comes from a discussion had on this site about when they first started showing up on plans.


Ed Oden

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #76 on: February 10, 2010, 09:26:05 PM »
Ed

When you are reviewing the drawings can you tell me the oldest drawing you have that illustrates grassing lines? The question comes from a discussion had on this site about when they first started showing up on plans.



Michael, its impossible to say since so many of them are not dated.  But take a look at the first picture in Reply #50 for a 1912 map of Chicago Golf Club that clearly shows fairway lines.  So the practice goes back at least that far.

Ed

Michael Rossi

Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #77 on: February 10, 2010, 09:30:02 PM »
Thank you Ed

Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #78 on: February 16, 2010, 05:59:03 AM »
All of these from The Sun newspaper in 1895.















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Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Mike Cirba

Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #79 on: February 16, 2010, 07:16:57 AM »
Thanks Joe...I think we desperately need to bring back the "Snake Fence" and "Dismal Swamp" as hazards in the modern game.

Interesting that the Tuxedo Club had an "Alps"....Ardsley had one back then, as well.
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Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #80 on: February 16, 2010, 09:16:50 AM »
Walnut Lane (Findlay) original routing.

« Last Edit: February 26, 2018, 08:14:13 AM by Joe Bausch »
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The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #81 on: February 16, 2010, 11:19:03 AM »
From the 1896 NY Sun, the routing of the Willie Park Knollwood CC:

« Last Edit: February 26, 2018, 08:14:47 AM by Joe Bausch »
@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Ed Oden

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #82 on: February 17, 2010, 11:22:49 PM »
Thanks Joe!  I've updated the index.  I have also added Kris Spence's As-Built Restoration Plan for Carolina Golf Club in Reply #1. Finally, here are a number of maps of Flossmoor Country Club (formerly known as Homewood Country Club) courtesy of Greg Ohlendorf's recent In My Opinion piece... http://golfclubatlas.com/in-my-opinion/flossmoor-country-club


1901 Green Book of the original Homewood Country Club course...


Homewood map circa 1900...


Homewood layout early 1900s...


Ray Hearn master renovation plan for Flossmoor...


I'll try to post a few more that I have over the next couple of days.  In the meantime, if anyone else has anything, please continue to add them or feel free to send them to me and I will do so.

Ed

Ed Oden

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #83 on: March 01, 2010, 08:55:45 PM »
Captain's Cove, courtesy of Lester George...


Dónal Ó Ceallaigh

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #84 on: March 02, 2010, 07:16:12 PM »
Portmarnock from 1936.


Dónal Ó Ceallaigh

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #85 on: March 02, 2010, 07:21:02 PM »
Portsalon from 1908.


Dónal Ó Ceallaigh

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #86 on: March 02, 2010, 07:29:37 PM »
Rosapenna (1906-1913), taken from Shrubsole's 1908 book "Picturesque Donegal".

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Eric Smith

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #87 on: March 02, 2010, 07:48:32 PM »
I snapped this in the clubhouse at Chechessee Creek Club (Coore/Crenshaw):


Dónal Ó Ceallaigh

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #88 on: March 02, 2010, 08:06:32 PM »
Stockholms Golf Klubb - Fĺgelbaken Course (1904-06)



Stockholms Golf Klubb - Storängsbotten Course (1906-12)



Stockholms Golf Klubb - Rĺsunda Course (1912-26)



Stockholms Golf Klubb - Sticklinge Course (1926-31)



Stockholms Golf Klubb - Kevinge Course (1932)



Stockholms Golf Klubb - Kevinge Course (2002)


Ed Oden

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #89 on: March 02, 2010, 09:35:24 PM »
Thanks Donal and Eric!  I have added your contributions to the index.

Ed

Bill Rocco

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #90 on: March 02, 2010, 09:55:41 PM »
Great post, I am just a little confused.....On the Seaview routing map in Galloway twp.  I see it says that it is along James Leeds road.  Im almost positive that it is Jimmie Leeds Road.  Just wondering if anybody knew anything about that???

Mike Cirba

Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #91 on: March 03, 2010, 02:01:06 PM »
Compliments of Tom MacWood, I believe, here is the Crump/Colt "blue/red" working topo map of Pine Valley.

« Last Edit: March 03, 2010, 02:03:25 PM by Mike Cirba »

Paul Carey

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #92 on: March 03, 2010, 02:08:48 PM »
Does anyone know a place or places where some of these may be for sale?  I have St. Andrews and Pebble Beach in my study framed and I like the routing maps, architectural drawings much better than pictures of courses. 

I assume they are the property of the clubs not the architect but I have not seen them for sale at any clubs.

Thanks.

Jason Topp

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #93 on: March 03, 2010, 02:11:15 PM »
Here is a link to the Tillinghast society section of sketches and routing plans.  I am not comfortable copying any of the images so I will just provide the link.

http://www.tillinghast.net/Tillinghast/DESIGN_SKETECHES.html

Dónal Ó Ceallaigh

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #94 on: March 03, 2010, 04:17:36 PM »
Co. Sligo (Rosses Point), Ireland (plan taken from Golf Review 1909). Course designed by Captain William Campbell in 1907.


Bill_McBride

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #95 on: March 05, 2010, 02:37:39 PM »
Captain's Cove, courtesy of Lester George...



I have nightmares of courses like this routing.  Yikes!

Ed Oden

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #96 on: March 05, 2010, 07:17:06 PM »
Does anyone know a place or places where some of these may be for sale?  I have St. Andrews and Pebble Beach in my study framed and I like the routing maps, architectural drawings much better than pictures of courses. 

I assume they are the property of the clubs not the architect but I have not seen them for sale at any clubs.

Thanks.

Paul, I don't know about anything that has been posted on this thread, but Forrest Richardson has some nice drawings for sale on Golframes.com...

http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,37736.0/

http://golframes.com/


Paul Carey

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #97 on: March 05, 2010, 10:50:12 PM »
Ed,

Thanks,

Paul

john_stiles

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #98 on: March 05, 2010, 10:58:39 PM »
Does anyone know a place or places where some of these may be for sale?  I have St. Andrews and Pebble Beach in my study framed and I like the routing maps, architectural drawings much better than pictures of courses.  

I assume they are the property of the clubs not the architect but I have not seen them for sale at any clubs.

Thanks.

Paul,

1>  As maybe mentioned previously,  for  Ross courses,  you can visit the  Tufts Archives  web site, http://www.tuftsarchives.org/   

From home page you go to 'Donald Ross' and then  'List of Ross Courses' and then  'View...' .   You will a list of Ross courses, and the documents for each course.  Tufts has the  'Ross' layouts for a number of courses, and has the individual hole sketches in some instances.

I noted Tufts has routing plans for a number of courses and quickly noted a few courses often discussed at GCA,

Aronimick
Holston Hills
Linville
Longmeadow
Oak Hill
Seminole

I ordered a copy of Ross' Seminole plan and was happy with the result.

2>    At  eBay,  if you search   'golf course maps'   you can find a number of the 'modern' color renderings of the old courses.  A few are in the style of the 'World Atlas of Golf'  if you know what I mean.  It is the style of oblique aerial sketchings that I first noticed in World Atlas of Golf back in the mid 80s.
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Paul Carey

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #99 on: March 07, 2010, 07:58:53 PM »
John,

Thanks. 

Paul

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