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Title: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 01, 2010, 10:54:57 PM
I love course routing plans and drawings.  There have been quite a few posted on this site over the years.  But they are all too often lost in the middle of random threads.  So I thought it would be nice to compile these drawings and plans in one spot.  In coming posts, I will attach some that I have found.  By no means, however, have I done an exhaustive search.  Plus, I am no historian.  So it would be nice if others would add anything they have found or otherwise have copies of.  If there is any interest, I will use this initial post as an index and periodically update it as things are added.  Of course, I'll take no offense if people think this is a dumb idea and let this thread slide into the land of back page obscurity.

There are no real rules here.  I don't care whether the drawings are of a great course or one no one has ever heard of, new or old, NLE or never built.  That being said, personally, I am primarily interested in things that are not easily found on a club's/course's web site.  So, for example, I won't be attaching plans of the Bandon resort courses since everyone pretty much knows where they can be found.  That being said, I also have no problem if someone else wants to post them.

Thanks in advance to anyone interested in adding to this thread.

ALPHABETICAL INDEX A to F (updated through REPLY 1241):

ABERFELDY GC, Scotland (REPLY 541)
ABERFOYLE GC, Scotland (REPLY 103)
ACACIA CC, Chicago, IL (REPLY 1105)
ACACIA CC, South Euclid, OH (REPLY 1221)
AGUA CALIENTE GC, Tijuana, CA (REPLY 414)
AIRDRIE GC, Scotland (REPLY 759)
AIX LES BAINS GC, France (REPLY 789)
ALAMANCE GC, Burlington, NC (REPLY 1222)
ALAMEDA MUNICIPAL GC, Alameda, CA (REPLY 1024)
ALDERWOOD GC, Portland, OR (REPLIES 941, 1096, 1163)
ALGONQUIN GC, St. Louis, MO (REPLY 578)
ALTADENA CC, Altadena, CA (REPLY 848)
ALWOODLEY GC, Leeds, England (REPLIES 530, 880)
ALYNTH GC, England (REPLY 539)
AMPERSAND GOLF LINKS, Lake Placid, NY (REPLY 579)
ANACONDA CC, Anaconda, MT (REPLIES 425, 1074)
ANNANDALE GC, Pasadena, CA (REPLY 683)
ANTELOPE PARK MUNICIPAL GC, Lincoln, NE (REPLY 1176)
ANTLERS GC, Forest Hills, NY (REPLY 878)
APAWAMIS CLUB, Rye, NY (REPLIES 170, 803)
ARDSLEY CC, Ardsley-On-Hudson, NY (REPLIES 126, 142, 173, 230)
ARIKIKAPAKAPA GC, New Zealand (REPLY 598)
ASCARALE PARK GC, EL Paso, TX (REPLY 962)
ASHEVILLE MUNICIPAL GC, Asheville, NC (REPLIES 1075, 1137)
ASSINIBOINE GC, Winnipeg, CAN (REPLY 1204)
ATLANTIC CITY CC, Atlantic City, NJ (REPLIES 298, 592)
AUGUSTA CC, Augusta, GA (REPLIES 115, 648
AUGUSTA NATIONAL GC, Augusta, GA (REPLIES 12, 195, 291, 413, 418, 574, 628)
AVON, GC OF (a/k/a Avon CC, Avon), CT (REPLY 1089)
BABERTON GC, Scotland (REPLY 541)
BAD EMS GC, Germany (REPLY 790)
BALA GC, Philadelphia, PA (REPLY 509)
BALBOA PARK GC, San Diego, CA (REPLY 414)
BALLYHACK GC, Roanoke, VA (REPLY 50, 59)
BALLYNEAL GC, Holyoke, CO (REPLY 50)
BALSAMS GC, Dixville Notch, NH (REPLY 915)
BALTIMORE CC (Roland Park), Baltimore, MD (REPLY 667)
BALTUSROL GC (NLE), Springfield, NJ (REPLIES 78, 139, 366)
BALTUSROL GC (NLE), Short Hills, NJ (REPLY 653)
BALTUSROL GC (Lower), Springfield, NJ (REPLY 449)
BALTUSROL GC (Upper), Springfield, NJ (REPLIES 136, 449)
BANYAN GC, West Palm Beach, FL (REPLY 405)
BAR HARBOR GOLF LINKS, Bar Harbor, ME (REPLY 760)
BARTLETT CC, Olean, NY, (REPLY 1139)
BATH GC, England (REPLY671)
BATTLE CREEK CC, Battle Creek, MI (REPLY 1012)
BAY SHORE GC (NLE), Bay Shore, NY (REPLIES 301, 526)
BEACH HURST GC (never built), Pass Christian, MS (REPLY 816)
BEARSDEN GC, Scotland (REPLY 103)
BEAUMONT GC, Beaumont, TX (REPLY 647)
BEDFORD SPRINGS RESORT, Bedford Springs, PA (REPLY 356)
BELFAIR GC, Beaufort, SC (REPLY 50, 59)
BELLEAIR GC, Belleair, FL (REPLY 592)
BELLE ISLE GC, Belle Isle, MI (REPLY 1019)
BELMONT GC, Belmont, IL (REPLY 122)
BERMUDA GC, location unknown (REPLY 605)
BETHEHEM PARK ASSOCIATION, Bethlehem, NH (REPLY 1034)
BEVERLY CC, Chicago, IL (REPLY 654)
BIARRITZ GOLF LINKS, France (REPLIES 39, 397)
BIGGAR GC, Scotland (REPLY 518)
BIGWIN ISLAND GC, Lake of Bays, Canada (REPLY 439)
BLACKHEATH GOLF LINKS (NLE), England (REPLY 863)
BLAIR ATHOLL GC, Scotland (REPLY 539)
BLAIRGOWRIE, Scotland (REPLIES 14, 127)
BLETCHLEY GOLF LINKS, Bletchley, England (REPLY 751)
BLOOMFIELD HILLS CC, Bloomfield Hills, MI (REPLY 576)
BLUFF POINT GC (a/k/a Hotel Champlain GC, Bluff Point, NY (REPLY 1015)
BOBBY JONES GC, Atlanta, GA (REPLY 1152)
BON AIR GOLF LINKS, Augusta, GA (REPLY 605)
BOURNEMOUTH PARK GC, England (REPLY 127)
BRAE BURN CC, West Newton, MA (REPLIES 716, 799, 1086)
BRAID HILLS GC, Scotland (REPLY 541)
BRENDENWOOD GC, Indianapolis, IN (REPLY 1193)
BRIDGE OF ALLAN GC, England (REPLY 539)
BRIGHTON AND HOVE LADIES GC, England (REPLY 534)
BRIGHTON PARK GC, Tonawanda, NY (REPLY 377)
BRISBANE GC, Yeerongpilly, Australia (REPLY 408)
BRISTOL & CLIFTON GC, England (REPLIES 198, 734)
BROADMOOR GC, Seattle, WA (REPLY 1219)
BROOKLAWN CC, Bridgeport, CT (REPLIES 72, 858, 1094, 1095)
BROOKSIDE CC, Canton, OH (REPLY 458)
BROOKSIDE G&CC, Pasadena, CA (REPLY 1070)
BRORA GC, Scotland (REPLY 14)
BRUNTISLAND GC, England (REPLY 539)
BRUNTSFIELD GOLFING SOCIETY, Scotland (REPLY 539)
BRYN MAWR GC, Lincolnwood, IL (REPLY 767)
BUCKLE GC, Scotland (REPLY 109)
BUNKER COVE GC, Panama, FL (REPLY 1198)
BURNET PARK GC, Syracuse, NY (REPLY 357)
BURNHAM & BERROW GC, England (REPLY 376)
CALDENO GC, Delaware Water Gap, PA (REPLY 289)
CALIFORNIA GC, San Francisco, CA (REPLIES 554, 684)
CALIFORNIA WATERWORKS GC, Cincinnati, OH (REPLY 1164)
CAMARGO CC, Cincinnati, OH (REPLY 1162)
CAMDEN CC (f/k/a Kirkwood Links), Camden, SC (REPLIES 73, 557, 842)
CANDLER PARK GC, Atlanta, GA (REPLIES 879, 883)
CANTERBURY GC, Cleveland, OH (REPLIES 491, 1102)
CAPE BRETON HIGHLAND LINKS, Nova Scotia, Canada (REPLY 261)
CAPTAIN'S COVE GC, Greenbackville, VA (REPLY 83)
CARACAS CC, Caracas, Venezuela (REPLY 1225)
CARNOUSTIE GC, Scotland (REPLIES 376, 539, 541)
CAROLINA GC, Charlotte, NC (REPLY 2)
CASCADES COURSE, Hot Springs, VA (REPLY 71)
CASTILLO DE SAN MARCOS (a/k/a St. Augustine GC and Fort Marion GC), St. Augustine, FL (REPLY 607)
CATHKIN BRAES GC, Scotland (REPLY 103)
CAVENDISH GC, Buxton, England (REPLY 12)
CEDAR SHORE GC (never built), South Dakota (REPLY 110)
CHAMPLAIN CC (NLE), Port Kent, NY (REPLIES 832, 1015)
CHARLES RIVER CC, Newton Centre, MA (REPLY 452)
CHATEAU DE LA TOURNETTE, Belgium (REPLY 671)
CHATTANOOGA G&CC, Chattanooga, TN (REPLY 992)
CHECHESSEE CREEK CLUB, Okatie, SC (REPLIES 87, 324)
CHERRY HILLS CC, Denver, CO (REPLY 398)
CHEVY CHASE CLUB, Chevy Chase, MD (REPLY 640)
CHIBERTA GC, France (REPLY 157)
CHICAGO GC, Wheaton, IL (REPLIES 50, 122, 333, 407, 540)
CINCINNATI GC (NLE), Cincinnati, OH (REPLY 775)
CITY PARK GC, New Orleans, LA (REPLY 720)
CIVIL SERVICE GC, Scotland (REPLY 541)
CLEARCREST GC, Evansville, IN (REPLY 1081)
CLEVELAND CC, Cleveland, OH (REPLY 779)
CLEVELAND HEIGHTS G&CC, Lakeland, FL (REPLY 988)
CLIFTON FINE MUNICIPAL GC, Star Lake, NY (REPLY 663)
COBB'S CREEK GC (Olde), Philadelphia, PA (REPLIES 17, 44, 946)
COBB'S CREEK GC (Karakung), Philadelphia, PA (REPLY 440)
COFFIN GC, Indianapolis, IN (REPLY 900)
COHASSE, Southbridge, MA (REPLY 1226)
COLONIA CC, Rahway, NJ (REPLY 634)
COLONIAL CC, Fort Worth, TX (REPLY 763)
COLONIAL G&CC, Lynnfield, MA (REPLIES 791, 844)
COLONIAL GC (never built), Altanta, GA (REPLY 738)
COLORADO SPRINGS CC, Colorado Springs, CO (REPLIES 604, 689)
COLUMBIA CC, Chevy Chase, MD (REPLY 270)
COLUMBUS CC (Walnut Cliff GC), Columbus, OH (REPLY 581)
CONCORD GC, Concord, MA (REPLY 1030)
CONGRESSIONAL CC (BLUE), Bethesda, MD (REPLY 1156)
CONTENTMENT GC, Elkin, NC (REPLY 406)
COODEN BEACH GC, England (REPLY 376)
COPAKE CC, Craryville, NY (REPLY 38)
CORONADO GC, Coronado, CA (REPLIES 471, 555, 685)
CC OF CHARLESTON (f/k/a Wappoo CC), Charleston, SC (REPLY 1227)
CC OF DECATUR, Decatur, IL (REPLIES 483, 1191)
CC OF DETROIT, Grosse Pointe Farms, MI (REPLIES 200, 961)
CC OF FLORIDA, Village of Golf, FL (REPLY 670)
CC OF HARRISBURG, Harrisburg, PA (REPLY 1234)
CC OF LINCOLN, Lincoln, NE (REPLY 1051)
CC OF ROCHESTER, Rochester, NY (REPLY 625)
CC OF SAN DIEGO, San Diego, CA (REPLY 587)
CC OF SCRANTON, Clarks Summit, PA (REPLIES 204, 477, 551)
CC OF TROY, Troy, NY (REPLY 552)
CC OF VIRGINIA (James River Course), Richmond, VA (REPLIES 358, 577)
CC OF WESTCHESTER, Westchester, NY (REPLY 1033)
CC OF YORK, York, PA (REPLY 71)
COUNTY SLIGO GC (ROSSES POINT), Ireland (REPLY 94)
CRAGIN PARK GC, Palm Beach, FL (REPLY 1110)
CRANFORD GC (n/k/a Echo Lake CC), Cranford, NJ (REPLY 227)
CRAWFORD GC (NLE), location unknown (REPLY 127)
CRESCENT ATHLETIC CLUB (NLE), Brooklyn, NY (REPLIES 319, 623)
CRESTVIEW CC, Wichita, KS (REPLY 860)
CRIEFF GC, Scotland (REPLY 539)
CROOKED STICK GC, Carmel, IN (REPLY 134)
CRUDEN BAY GC, Scotland (REPLY 129)
CRYSTAL DOWNS CC, Frankfort, MI (REPLY 50, 59)
CULLEN GC, Scotland (REPLY 109)
CUMBRAE GC, Scotland (REPLY 127)
CYPRESS POINT CLUB, Pebble Beach, CA (REPLIES 12, 287, 348, 351, 1212)
DALAT PALACE GC, Vietnam (REPLY 215)
DALLAS CC, Dallas, TX (REPLY 421)
DAVENPORT CC, Davenport, IA (REPLY 1171)
DAVIS ISLANDS CC, Tampa, FL (REPLIES 1093, 1169)
DAYTON CC, Dayton, OH (REPLY 1148)
DEAL GC, Deal, NJ (REPLY 604)
DEEPDALE GC, Manhassett, NY (REPLY 632)
DEL MONTE GC, Monterey, CA (REPLIES 363, 1212)
DEL SOTO HEIGHTS GC, Gainesville, GA (REPLIES 965, 970)
DENVER CITY PARK GOLF LINKS, Denver, CO (REPLY 676)
DES MOINES G&CC, Des Moines, IA (REPLIES 943, 1062, 1175)
DETROIT GC, Detroit, MI (REPLIES 645, 807, 995, 1001)
DISMAL RIVER CLUB, Mullen, NE (REPLY 155)
DORMIE CLUB PRACTICE FACILITY, Pinehurst, NC (REPLY 406)
DORNOCK GC AT CRIEFF (NLE), Scotland (REPLIES 128, 539)
DUNBAR GC, Scotland (REPLY 756)
DUNEDIN GC, Dunedin, FL (REPLY 804)
DUNFERMLINE GC AT FERRYHILLS, Scotland (REPLIES 127, 541)
DUNWOODIE CC, Yonkers, NY (REPLIES 171, 520)
DUPONT CC (NEMOURS COURSE), Wilmington, DE (REPLY 1166)
DURAND EASTMAN GC, Rochester, NY (REPLIES 467, 1202)
DYKER BEACH GC, Brooklyn, NY (REPLIES 232, 248, 630)
EAGLES NEST CC, Blue Mountain Lake, NY (REPLIES 663, 1223)
EAST HARTFORD CC, East Hartford, CT (REPLY 1099)
EAST LIVERPOOL CC, East Liverpool, OH (REPLY 1016)
EASTERN PARKWAY GC, Brooklyn, NY (REPLY 1140)
EASTMORELAND GC, Portland, OR (REPLY 865)
EASTWARD HO!, Chatham, MA  (REPLY 511)
EASTWOOD GC, Scotland (REPLY 103)
EAU CLAIRE G&CC, Eau Claire, WI (REPLY 378)
EDGEWOOD LINKS, location unknown (REPLY 399)
EKWANOK CC, Manchester, VT (REPLY 382)
EL BOQUERON (never built), Argentina (REPLY 9)
EL CABALLERO CC, Tarzana, CA (REPLIES 695, 1069)
ELK RAPIDS GC, Elk Rapids, MI (REPLY 718)
ELLERSLIE CROSS CC (NLE), Evergreen Park, IL (REPLY 767)
ELMIRA CC, Elmira, NY (REPLY 306)
EL PASO CC, El Paso, TX (REPLY 360)
ENGINEERS CC, Roslyn Harbor, NY (REPLIES 254, 1238)
ENGLEWOOD GC (NLE), Englewood, NJ (REPLIES 167, 337)
ERIE DOWNS G&CC (a/k/a Bridgewater CC), Fort Erie, CAN (REPLIES 993, 1138)
ESSEX CC, Manchester, MA (REPLIES 338, 368)
EUCLID GC, Cleveland, OH (REPLY 825)
EUGENE CC, Eugene, OR (REPLY 1181)
EVANSTON GC, Evanston, IL (REPLY 767)
EVANSTON KING'S DAUGHTERS GC, Evanston, IL (REPLIES 122, 767)
EXMOOR CC, Highland Park, IL (REPLY 767)
FAIRIES PARK GC, Decatur, IL (REPLY 962)
FAIRMEDE GC, Oakland, CA (REPLY 1071)
FALKLAND GC, Scotland (REPLY 539)
FARMINGTON CC, Hartford, CT (REPLY 538)
FIRCREST GC, Tacoma, WA (REPLY 741)
FLOSSMOOR CC, Flossmoor, IL (REPLIES 82, 1199)
FOREST HILLS GOLF AND RESORT, Hiroshima, Japan (REPLY 456)
FOREST HILLS GC, Soho, NJ (REPLY 178)
FOREST PARK GC, Wood Haven, NY (REPLIES 362, 703)
FORMBY GC, England (REPLY 376)
FORRES GC, Scotland (REPLY 131)
FORT GEORGE LINKS, Niagara, Ont., CAN (REPLY 1014)
FORT LEAVENWORTH GC, Fort Leavenworth, KS (REPLY 872)
FOUNTAINBLEAU GC, France (REPLY 268)
FOX HILLS GC (NLE), Clifton, NY (REPLY 176)
FRANKFORD CC, Philadelphia, PA (REPLY 752)
FRANKLIN PARK MUNICIPAL GC, Boston, MA (REPLIES 892, 1142)
FRENCH LICK SPRINGS GC, French Lick, IN (REPLIES 890, 990)
FRESH MEADOW CC, Great Neck, NY (REPLIES 218, 234, 519)
FRESH POND PARK GC, Cambridge, MA (REPLY 772)
FRILFORD HEATH GC, England (REPLY 671)
FRINTON GC, England (REPLY 450)

INDEX CONTINUED in next post…
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 01, 2010, 11:03:57 PM
ALPHABETICAL INDEX CONTINUED G to O (updated through REPLY 1241):

GALLOPING HILLS GC, Union, NJ (REPLY 1239)GALVESTON CC (NLE), Galveston, TX (REPLY 637)
GALVESTON GC, Galveston, TX (REPLY 959)
GARLSTEDTER HEIDE GC - BREMEN CLUB ZUR VAHR, Germany (REPLY 116)
GARDEN CITY GC, Garden City, NY (REPLIES 146, 190, 322, 582)
GEARHART GOLF LINKS, Gearhart, OR (REPLIES 877, 1050)
GLADSTONE MUNICIPAL GC, Gladstone, MI (REPLIES 953, 1209)
GLENCORSE GC, Scotland (REPLIES 106, 541)
GLENEAGLES GC, Scotland (REPLIES 573, 821)
GLEN ECHO CC, St. Louis, MO (REPLIES 769, 1210)
GLENELG GC, Adelaide, Australia (REPLY 52)
GLEN HEAD CC (f/k/a Women’s National GC), Glen Head, NY (REPLIES 801, 812)
GLEN OAK CC, Chicago, IL (REPLY 610)
GLEN RIDGE CC, Glen Ridge, NJ (REPLY 175)
GLEN VIEW CLUB, Golf, IL (REPLIES 605, 661, 847)
GOLDEN VALLEY CC, Minneapolis, MN (REPLY 1184)
GC BIELLA, Italy (REPLY 671)
GC DE FOURQUEUX MARLY, France (REPLY 157)
GC DE HAAR, Holland (REPLY 206)
GOLF DE LA MOLINA, Spain (REPLY 293)
GOVERNOR'S ISLAND GC, Upper New York Bay, NY (REPLIES 782, 798)
GRAND HOTEL COURSE, Mackinac Island, MI (REPLY 948)
GRANTWOOD GC, Solon, OH (REPLY 708)
GREAT NECK GC, Great Neck, NY (REPLY 181)
GREENBRIER GC (OLD WHITE), White Sulphur Springs, WV (REPLIES 379, 381, 851)
GREENFIELD MUNICIPAL GC, Greenfield, MA (REPLY 1136)
GREENFIELD PARK GC, Milwaukee, WI (REPLY 1103)
GREEN GABLES GC, Prince Edward Island (REPLY 6)
GREENWICH CC, Greenwich, CT (REPLIES 183, 521)
GROSSE ILE CC, Grosse Ile Township, MI (REPLY 713)
GROVE PARK GC (f/k/a Asheville CC), Asheville, NC (REPLY 692)
HACKENSACK GC, Hackensack, NJ (REPLY 219)
HAGERSTOWN GC, Hagerstown, MD (REPLY 906)
HAINES CITY CC, Haines City, FL (REPLY 1150)
HAMBURG CC, Hamburg, IA (REPLY 490)
HAMBURGER GC (FALKENSTEIN), Germany (REPLY 116)
HAMILTON COUNTY CC (a/k/a Maketewah CC), Cincinnati, OH (REPLIES 949, 1157)
HANGER HILL CC, England (REPLY 644)
HANOVER CC, Hanover, NH (REPLY 627)
HARDELOT GOLF LINKS, Le Touquet, France (REPLY 746)
HARDING PARK GC, San Francisco, CA (REPLY 1158)
HARROGATE GC, England (REPLY 539)
HARTFORD GC, Hartford, CT (REPLIES 310, 715)
HAWORTH CC, Haworth, NJ (REPLY 220)
HERCULES GC, Wilmington, DE (REPLY 1165)
HICKORY HILLS GC, Springfield, MO (REPLIES 868, 950)
HIGHLAND CC, CT (REPLY 583)
HIGHLAND GC, Indianapolis, IN (REPLY 876)
HIGHLAND MEADOWS GC, Sylvania, OH (REPLY 23)
HILLCREST CC, Kansas City, KS (REPLY 428)
HILLCREST CC, Los Angeles, CA (REPLY 1072)
HILLSIDE TENNIS & GC, Plainfield, NJ (REPLY 601)
HINSDALE GC, Hinsdale, IL (REPLIES 122, 768, 971)
HOHOKUS GC, Hohokus, NJ (REPLY 697)
HOLLYWOOD GC, Hollywood, FL (REPLY 731)
HOLSTON HILLS CC, Knoxville, TN (REPLY 100)
HOMESTEAD COURSE, Hot Springs, VA (REPLY 1224)
HOMEWOOD CC, Flossmoor, IL (REPLY 82)
HOOD RIVER CC, Portland, OR (REPLY 770)
HOTCHKISS SCHOOL GC, Lakeville, CT (REPLY 1083)
HOTEL GREEN GC, location unknown (REPLY 686)
HOTEL REDONDO GOLF LINKS, Redondo Beach, CA (REPLIES 471, 687, 778)
HOUSTON GC, Houston, TX (REPLY 646)
HOWARD GOULD POCKET GC, Sands Point, NY (REPLY 941)
HOWEY GC, Howey, FL (REPLY 874)
HUDSON RIVER GC, Albany, NY (REPLY 1032)
HUNTERCOMBE GC, England (REPLY 411)
INDIAN CREEK CC, Indian Creek Village, FL (REPLY 71)
INDIANWOOD G&CC, Lake Orion, MI (REPLY 762)
INGLEWOOD CC, Seattle, WA (REPLY 1025)
INTERLACHEN CC, Edina, MN (REPLY 367)
INVERNESS GC, Toledo, OH (REPLIES 205, 249, 679, 680, 787)
INWOOD CC, Inwood, NY (REPLY 225)
IOWA STATE COLLEGE GC (a/k/a Veenker Memorial GC, Ames, IA (REPLIES 1052, 1174)
IRONDEQUOIT CC, Rochester, NY (REPLY 1130)
IRVINE GC, Scotland (REPLY 103)
JACKSON HEIGHTS GC, Jackson Heights, NY (REPLY 707)
JACKSON PARK GC, Chicago, IL (REPLY 942)
JAMES RIVER CC, Newport News, VA (REPLY 1177)
JEFFERSON PARK GC, Seattle, WA (REPLY 985)
JIMMIE AUSTIN GC, Norman, OK (REPLY 431)
J. J. LYNN ESTATE COURSE, Kansas City, MO (REPLY 737)
JOLIET MUNICIPAL GC, Joliet, IL (REPLY 1091)
JOHN WHITE GC, Atlanta, GA (REPLY 1151)
JUNIATA VALLEY COLONY CLUB, Mount Union, PA (REPLY 960)
KAHKWA CLUB, Erie, PA (REPLY 987)
KAWANA GC (FUJI), Japan (REPLY 203)
KELVINSIDE GC, Scotland (REPLY 14)
KENILWORTH GC, Kenilworth, IL (REPLY 768)
KENILWORTH INN COURSE, Biltmore, NC (REPLY 604)
KENILWORTH LODGE GC, Sebring, FL (REPLY 797)
KETTERING GC, England (REPLY 127)
KEY WEST GC, Key West, FL (REPLY 482)
KEY WEST GC (NLE), Key West, FL (REPLY 482)
KILLEARN GC (NLE), Scotland (REPLY 129)
KILMALCOLM GC, Scotland (REPLY 103)
KILMARNOCK GC (Barassie), Scotland (REPLY 729)
KING EDWARD BAY GC AT HOWSTRAKE LAKE, Isle of Man (REPLY 127)
KINGHORN GC, Scotland (REPLY 541)
KINGSLEY CLUB, Kingsley, MI (REPLY 50)
KINGSPORT CC, Kingsport, TN (REPLY 1149)
KINGSTON HEATH GC, Australia (REPLY Cool
KINLOCH GC, Manakin-Sabot, VA (REPLY 409)
KIRRIEMUIR GC, Scotland (REPLY 541)
KITTANSETT CLUB, Marion, MA (REPLIES 71, 855)
KNOLLWOOD CC, Birmingham, MI (REPLY 984)
KNOLLWOOD CC, Elmsford, NY (REPLIES 2, 78, 300)
LAKE CLEAR INN GC (NLE), Lake Clear, NY (REPLY 663)
LAKE GENEVA CC, Lake Geneva, WI (REPLY 767)
LAKE MERCED CC, San Francisco, CA (REPLY 555)
LAKE MITCHELL PARK GC, Mitchell, SD (REPLY 867)
LAKE SHORE CC, Glencoe, IL (REPLY 978, 980)
LAKESIDE CC, Richmond, VA (REPLIES 584, 839)
LAKESIDE GC, Burbank, CA (REPLY 571)
LAKEWOOD CC, Lakewood, NJ (REPLIES 78, 222, 704, 1143)
LAKEWOOD GC, Tampa, FL (REPLY 1168)
LANARK GC, Scotland (REPLIES 103, 127)
LANCASTER CC, Lancaster, PA (REPLY 260)
LANCASTER MUNICIPAL GC, Lancaster, SC (REPLY 1079)
LANGARAC GC, Vancouver, Canada (REPLY 740)
LA PALMA GC, La Palma, AZ (REPLY 1161)
LARAMIE CC (NLE), Chicago, IL (REPLY 485)
LAUREL CC, Laurel, MS (REPLY 1170)
LAWRENCE HARBOR CC, Lawrence Harbor, NJ (REPLY 196)
LEAGUE ISLAND GC, Philadelphia, PA (REPLY 754)
LEHIGH CC, Allentown, PA (REPLIES 47, 1195)
LESLIE GC, Scotland (REPLY 541)
LIDO GC, Long Beach, NY (REPLIES 188, 544)
LINCOLN PARK GC, San Francisco, CA (REPLY 555)
LINKS AT MIAMI (a/k/a Miami Golf Links), Miami, FL (REPLIES 538, 554)
LINKS AT ORMOND, Ormond Beach, FL (REPLY 538)
LINKS AT ST. AUGUSTINE, St. Augustine, FL (REPLY 538)
LINVILLE GC, Linville, NC (REPLIES 1029, 1228)
LITTLE ASTON GC, England (REPLY 376)
LOCKWOOD HYPOTHETICAL COURSE, New England (REPLY 1040)
LONGSHADOW GC, Madison, GA (REPLY 35)
LOOKOUT MOUNTAIN GC (f/k/a Fairyland GC), Lookout Mountain, GA (REPLIES 101, 251, 393)
LOOKOUT POINT CC, Niagara Falls, Ontario (REPLY 837)
LOS ANGELES CC, Los Angeles, CA (REPLY 471)
LOST DUNES GC, Bridgman, MI (REPLY 24)
LUCERNE GC, Lucerne, Switzerland (REPLY 793)
LUFFNESS, Scotland (REPLY 756)
LU LU CC, North Hills, PA (REPLY 113)
LUSHAN INTERNATIONAL GC, China (REPLY 508)
MACHRIE GOLF LINKS, Scotland (REPLIES 103, 127)
MACHRIHANISH LINKS, Scotland (REPLY 359)
MADISON GC, Madison, NJ (REPLY 1187)
MAHONING GC, Youngstown, OH (REPLIES 808, 828)
MAHOPAC GC, Mahopac, NY (REPLY 589)
MALONE GC, Malone, NY (REPLY 662)
MAMMOTH CAVE GC, Mammoth Cave, KY (REPLY 866)
MANHATTAN BEACH LINKS, Coney Island, NY (REPLY 327)
MANOIR RICHELIEU GC, Quebec, Canada (REPLIES 108, 794)
MARBLE HALL LINKS (a/k/a Green Valley CC), Conshohocken, PA (REPLY 905)
MARINE AND FIELD CLUB, Sheepshead Bay, NY (REPLIES 240, 246, 275, 323)
MARK TWAIN GC, Elmira, NY (REPLY 869, 1097)
MARSATAWA CC, Marseilles, IL (REPLY 744)
MAUNA KEA GC, Waimea, Hawaii (REPLY 1182)
MAYFLOWER CC, Staten Island, NY (REPLY 1092)
MAYWOOD GC, Maywood, IL (REPLY 768)
MCGREGOR LINKS, Saratoga Springs, NY (REPLY 696)
MCLEAN VOLLENTINE GC (NLE), Memphis, TN (REPLY 820)
MEADOW BROOK GC, Jericho, NY (REPLY 199)
MEADOW LARK CC, Great Falls, MT (REPLY 669)
MEADOW LINKS GC, Buffalo, NY (REPLY 545)
MEDINAH CC, Medinah, IL (REPLY 403)
MELROSE CC, Cheltenham, PA (REPLY 43)
MEMPHIS CC, Memphis, TN (REPLIES 829, 894)
MENEMSHA GC, Chilmark, MA (REPLY 286)
MERION GC (EAST), Ardmore, PA (REPLIES 44, 45, 71, 189, 788, 822)
MERION GC (WEST), Ardmore, PA (REPLY 112)
METACOMET CC, Providence, RI (REPLY 469)
METROPOLITAN GC, Australia (REPLY 12)
MIAMI GOLF LINKS, Miami, FL (REPLY 608)
MIDLOTHIAN CC, Midlothian, IL (REPLIES 156, 586)
MID OCEAN CLUB, Tucker’s Town, Bermuda (REPLIES 823, 838)
MID PACIFIC CC (a/k/a KAILUA CC), Kailua, Hawaii (REPLY 1078)
MIDWICK CC, Alhambra, CA (REPLY 1240)MILL ROAD FARM GC, Lake Forest, IL (REPLY 71)
MILWAUKEE CC, Milwaukee, WI (REPLY 1109)
MINNEHAHA CC, Sioux Falls, SD (REPLIES 643, 809, 1077)
MISQUAMICUT CLUB, Watch Hill, RI (REPLY 536)
MISSION HILLS CC, Mission Hills, KS (REPLY 423)
MISSION INN RESORT AND CLUB (f/k/a El Campeon and Chain-O-Lakes), Howey-In-The-Hills, FL (REPLY 804)
MOHAWK GC, Schenectady, NY (REPLY 396)
MONIFIETH GC, Scotland (REPLIES 539, 759)
MONROE GC, Pittsford, NY (REPLY 10)
MONTCLAIR GC, Montclair, NJ (REPLY 180)
MONTE CARLO GC, France (REPLY 621)
MONTEREY PENINSULA CC (DUNES COURSE), Monterey, CA (REPLY 1212)
MONTEREY PENINSULA CC (SHORES COURSE), Monterey, CA (REPLIES 1212, 1214)
MOORESTOWN FIELD CLUB, Moorestown, NJ (REPLY 451)
MOORTOWN GC, England (REPLY 376)
MORAY GC, Scotland (REPLIES 103, 109)
MORRIS COUNTY GC, Morristown, NJ (REPLIES 78, 179, 305, 613, 1010)
MORRISTOWN FIELD CLUB, Morristown, NJ (REPLY 1026)
MOSHOLU GC, Bronx, NY (REPLIES 311, 524)
MOUNDBUILDERS CC, Newark, OH (REPLIES 400, 830)
MOUNTAIN RIDGE CC, West Caldwell, NJ (REPLY 237)
MOUNT FRANKLIN CC, El Paso, TX (REPLY 364)
MOUNT PLEASANT GC, Baltimore, MD (REPLY 1185)
MUIRFIELD, Scotland (REPLIES 14, 129, 376, 383, 600)
MULTNOMAH GC (NLE), Portland, OR (REPLIES 854, 891)
MUNICH GC, Germany (REPLY 116)
MUSSELBURGH GC, Scotland (REPLY 541)
MYOPIA HUNT CLUB, Hamilton, MA (REPLIES 114, 296, 298)
NAKOMA CC, Madison, WI (REPLY 62)
NASSAU CC, Glen Cove, NY (REPLIES 182, 238, 318, 714)
NASSAU GOLF LINKS, Nassau, FL (REPLY 554)
NATIONAL GOLF LINKS OF AMERICA, Shinnecock Hills, NY (REPLIES 143, 236, 806)
NELSON PARK GC, Decatur, IL (REPLY 954)
NEW ASBURY PARK LINKS, Asbury Park, NJ (REPLY 78)
NEW BRITAIN GC, Newington, CT (REPLY 755)
NEWBURGH GC, Scotland (REPLIES 129, 728)
NEWCASTLE GC, Australia (REPLY 597)
NEW CRESCENT GOLF LINKS, Tampa, FL (REPLY 602)
NEW HAVEN GC (NLE), New Haven, CT (REPLIES 538, 556, 642, 656)
NEW ORLEANS GC (a/k/a City Park GC), New Orleans, LA (REPLY 620)
NEWPORT CC, Newport, RI (REPLIES 299, 515)
NEWSPAPER GC (a/k/a Tecumseh GC and Harlem Jockey Club), Chicago, IL (REPLY 532)
NIAGARA ON THE LAKE GC, Ontario, Canada (REPLY 543)
NORTH BERWICK GC, Scotland (REPLIES 36, 397)
NORTH HILLS CC, Edge Hills, PA (REPLIES 229, 726)
NORTH JERSEY CC (NLE), Paterson, NJ (REPLY 224)
NORTH SHORE CC, Glen Head, NY (REPLY 252)
NORTH SHORE CC, Glenview, IL (REPLY 901)
MORAY GC, Scotland (REPLIES 103, 109)
NORTHUMBERLAND GC, England (REPLY 376)
NORWICH GC, Norwich, CT (REPLY 538)
NOTTS GC, England (REPLY 376)
OAHU CC, Honolulu, Hawaii (REPLY 1186)
OAK HILL CC, Fitchburg, MA (REPLY 835)
OAKLAND GC, Bayside, NY (REPLIES 1021, 1126)
OAKLAND MUNICIPAL GC, Oakland, CA (REPLY 884)
OAKMONT CC, Oakmont, PA (REPLIES 62, 209, 271, 349, 351, 826)
OCEAN COUNTY HUNT & CC, Lakewood, NJ (REPLIES 325, 1031)
OCONOMOWOC CC, Oconomowoc, WI (REPLIES 730, 765)
OKLAHOMA CITY G&CC (f/k/a Nichols Hills CC), Oklahoma City, OK (REPLY 1183)
OLD ELM CLUB, Highland Park, IL (REPLIES 292, 947)
OLD FORT GC, Indiana, PA (REPLY 905)
OLD FORT GC, Old Fort, NC (REPLY 455)
OLD MACDONALD, Bandon, OR (REPLY 68)
OLD PINE GC, West Richfield, OH (REPLY 575)
OLDE FARM, Bristol, VA (REPLY 478)
OLYMPIA FIELDS CC (North), Olympia Fields, IL (REPLIES 795, 836)
OLYMPIC CLUB, San Francisco, CA (REPLY 555)
OMAHA FIELD CLUB, Omaha, NE (REPLY 1004)
ONECK GC (NLE), Westhampton, NY (REPLY 462)
ONWENTSIA CLUB, Lake Forest, IL (REPLY 306)
OPA-LOCKA GC, Miami, FL (REPLY 265)
ORLANDO GOLF LINKS, Orlando, FL (REPLY 602)
ORMOND BEACH GOLF LINKS (n/k/a Oceanside CC), Ormond Beach, FL (REPLIES 459, 609)
OTTERKILL GC, Maybrook, NY (REPLY 845)
OUILMETTE CC, Wilmette, IL (REPLY 768)
OVERHILLS CLUB, Harnett County, NC (REPLY 294)
OYSTER HARBORS CLUB, Osterville, MA (REPLY 979)

INDEX CONTINUED in next post…
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 01, 2010, 11:16:43 PM
ALPHABETICAL INDEX CONTINUED P to Z (updated through REPLY 1241):
 
PACIFIC GAILES (never built), location unknown (REPLY 50)
PALLANZA GC (NLE), Italy (REPLY 116)
PALMA CEIA GC, Tampa, FL (REPLIES 507, 1167)
PALM BEACH GOLF LINKS, Palm Beach, FL (REPLY 608)
PALMETTO GC, Aiken, SC (REPLIES 257, 330, 517, 606)
PALOLO VALLEY MUNICIPAL GC, Oahu, Hawaii (REPLY 1205)
PALOS PARK GC, Chicago, IL (REPLY 937)
PANMURE GC (Barry Course), Scotland (REPLY 541)
PARAPARAUMU BEACH GC, New Zealand (REPLY 599)
PARK HILL GC, Denver, CO (REPLY 986)
PASADENA CC, Pasadena, CA (REPLIES 471, 688)
PATERSON GC (NLE), Paterson, NJ (REPLY 500)
PEACHTREE GC, Altanta, GA (REPLIES 57, 60)
PEBBLE BEACH GC, Pebble Beach, CA (REPLIES 253, 350, 351, 1212)
PELHAM BAY PARK GC, Pelham, NY (REPLIES 226, 233)
PENN STATE GC, State College, PA (REPLY 70)
PENOBSCOT VALLEY CC, Orono, ME (REPLY 593)
PENROSE PARK GC, Reidsville, NC (REPLY 1017)
PEPPER PIKE CLUB, Cleveland, Ohio (REPLY 542)
PETERHEAD GC, Scotland (REPLIES 128, 759)
PHILADEPHIA CC (Spring Mill), Philadelphia, PA (REPLIES 757, 783, 1196)
PINEHURST NO. 1, Pinehurst, NC (REPLIES 531, 629, 840)
PINEHURST NOS. 1-4, Pinehurst, NC (REPLY 151)
PINEHURST NO. 2, Pinehurst, NC (REPLIES 107, 122, 151)
PINE ORCHARD GC, Brantford, CT (REPLY 1220)
PINE VALLEY GC, Clementon, NJ (REPLIES 37, 91, 158, 385, 412)
PIONEER PARK GC, Lincoln, NE (REPLIES 871, 1203)
PIPING ROCK GC, Locust Valley, NY (REPLY 147)
PITLOCHRY GC, Scotland (REPLY 541)
PITTSBURGH FIELD CLUB, Pittsburgh, PA (REPLIES 736, 776, 1229)
PLAINFIELD CC, Plainfield, NJ (REPLY 4)
PLEASANT RUN GC, Irvington, IN (REPLY 956)
PLYMOUTH CC, Plymouth, MA (REPLY 1125)
POLAND SPRINGS GOLF LINKS, Poland, ME (REPLY 698)
PORTLAND GC, Portland, ME (REPLY 583)
PORTLAND GC, Portland, OR (REPLY 955)
PORTMANTEAU GC, location unknown (REPLY 122)
PORTMARNOCK GC, Ireland (REPLIES 84, 376)
PORTSALON GOLF LINKS, Ireland (REPLY 85)
PRAIRIE CLUB, Valentine, NE (REPLY 53)
PRAIRIE DUNES CC, Hutchinson, KS (REPLIES 434, 1006)
PREAKNESS VALLEY MUNICIPAL GC, Paterson, NJ (REPLY 1241)
PRESCOTT HILL G&CC, Plainfield, NJ (REPLY 1206)
PRESIDENT CC (EAGLE), West Palm Beach, FL (REPLY 405)
PRESIDIO GC, San Francisco, CA (REPLY 562)
PRESTWICK GC, Scotland (REPLIES 13, 14, 109, 116, 285, 376)
PRESTWICK AT ST. NICHOLAS GC, Scotland (REPLIES 14, 103)
PRINCE'S GC, Sandwich, England (REPLY 376)
PRINCESS ANNE CC, Virginia Beach, VA (REPLY 1020)
PRINCETON GOLF LINKS, Princeton, NJ (REPLY 306)
PROFILE GOLF LINKS, White Mountains, NH (REPLY 581)
PROUT'S NECK CC, Scarborough, ME (REPLY 24)
PUNTA BRAVA GC, Mexico (REPLY 50)
PUZZLEBROOK GC (N/A) (REPLY 1039)
QUEENS VALLEY GC (NLE), Queens, NY (REPLIES 118, #483)
QUINCY CC, Quincy, IL (REPLY 660)
RACKHAM GC, Huntington Woods, MI (REPLIES 402, 561)
RANCHO SANTE FE CC, Rancho Sante Fe, CA (REPLY 1201)
RANFURLY CASTLE GC, Scotland (REPLY 106)
REAL CLUB DE GOLF DE LA CERDANA, Spain (REPLY 293)
REAL SOCIEDAD DE GOLF DE NEGURI, Spain (REPLY 293)
REDLANDS CC, Redlands, CA (REPLY 471)
RED RUN GC, Royal Oak, MI (REPLY 878)
RICHMOND COUNTY CC, Staten Island, NY (REPLY 329)
RICHMOND HILL GC, location unknown (REPLIES 320, 624, 1037)
RIDGEMONT CC, Greece, NY (REPLY 1141)
RIDGEVIEW GC, Duluth, MN (REPLY 427)
RIDGEWOOD CC, Ridgewood, NJ (REPLIES 184, 267)
RIDGEWOOD GC, Cleveland, OH (REPLY 264)
RIVERSIDE PARK GC, Indianapolis, IN (REPLY 694)
RIVER FOREST GC, River Forest, IL (REPLIES 717, 768)
RIVIERA CC, Pacific Palisades CA (REPLY 677)
ROCHESTER CC, Rochester, NY (REPLY 522)
ROCKAWAY HUNT CLUB, Cedarhurst, NY (REPLIES 701, 702)
ROCK CREEK PARK GC, Washington, DC (REPLY 833)
ROCK MANOR GC, Wilmington, DE (REPLY 384)
ROLLING HILLS CC, Newburgh, IN (REPLY 952)
ROSAPENNA GOLF LINKS, Ireland (REPLIES 86, 501)
ROSCOE CONKLING PARK GC, Utica, NY (REPLIES 239, 309, 1134)
ROSE CITY MUNICIPAL GC, Portland, OR (REPLIES 771, 853)
ROSELAND PARK CC, Windsor, Canada (REPLY 739)
ROSELLE CASINO GC, Roselle, NJ (REPLIES 316, 626)
ROYAL ABERDEEN GC (BALGOWNIE LINKS), Scotland (REPLY 127)
ROYAL ADELAIDE GC, Australia (REPLY 43)
ROYAL CINQUE PORTS GC (DEAL), England (REPLIES 109, 376, 792)
ROYAL COUNTY DOWN GC, Ireland (REPLIES 34, 376)
ROYAL DORNOCH GC, Scotland (REPLY 266)
ROYAL ISLE OF WIGHT GC, Isle of Wight, UK (REPLY 719)
ROYAL LIVERPOOL GC, Hoylake, England (REPLIES 269, 334, 376, 472, 893, 1053)
ROYAL LYTHAM & ST. ANNES GC, England (REPLY 376)
ROYAL MELBOURNE GC, Australia (REPLIES 12, 40)
ROYAL NORTH DEVON GC (WESTWARD HO!), England (REPLIES 376, 493)
ROYAL PORTHCAWL GC, Wales (REPLIES 376, 470)
ROYAL PORTRUSH GC, Northern Ireland (REPLY 376)
ROYAL ST. DAVID'S GC, Harlech, Wales (REPLY 796)
ROYAL ST. GEORGE'S GC, Sandwich, England (REPLIES 103, 276, 278, 335, 347, 376, 614, 722)
ROYAL WELLINGTON GC, New Zealand (REPLY 596)
RUTLAND WATER GC (NORMANTON COURSE), England (REPLY 63)
SALISBURY LINKS (now known as Cherry Valley Club), Garden City, NY (REPLIES 263, 353)
SACANDAGA PARK GC, Sacandaga, NY (REPLY 774)
SALT LAKE CC, Salt Lake, UT (REPLIES 486, 649)
SAN ANDRES GC, Buenos Aries, ARG (REPLY 1046)
SAN FRANCISCO GC, San Francisco, CA (REPLIES 122, 277, 554, 555, 563-567, 616)
SAND RIDGE GC, Chardon, OH (REPLY 453)
SANKATY HEAD GC, Nantucket, MA (REPLY 781)
SANTA BARBARA CC, Santa Barbara, CA (REPLY 471)
SARASOTA GC, Sarasota, FL (REPLIES 650, 690)
SARASOTA MUNICIPAL GC (a/k/a Bobby Jones GC), Sarasota, FL (REPLIES 916, 1064)
SARGOWANA GC, Brooklyn, NY (REPLY 284)
SAVANNAH GC AT DESOTO HOTEL, Savannah, GA (REPLY 641)
SCARSDALE GC, Hartsdale, NY (REPLY 177)
SCHALREN GOLF & CC (NLE), Mohawk View, NY (REPLY 309)
SCHIFFERDECKER GC (a/k/a Joplin Municipal GC), Joplin, MO (REPLIES 873, 963)
SCIOTO CC, Columbus, OH (REPLY 301)
SEACROFT GC, England (REPLY 376)
SEASIDE GC, Seaside, OR (REPLIES 771, 852)
SEAVIEW GC, Atlantic City, NJ (REPLIES 44, 45)
SEGREGANSETT CC, Taunton, MA (REPLY 465)
SELKIRK GC, Scotland (REPLY 128)
SHAKER HEIGHTS CC, Shaker Heights, OH (REPLY 1101)
SHANNOPIN CC, Pittsburgh, PA (REPLY 859)
SHARP PARK GOLF LINKS, Pacifica, CA (REPLIES 262, 1211)
SHAWNEE CC, Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA (REPLIES 42, 340, 341)
SHAWNEE GC, Topeka, KS (REPLY 668)
SHEEPSHEAD GOLF LINKS, Brooklyn, NY (REPLY 800)
SHENNECOSSETT GC, Groton, CT (REPLY 342)
SHINNECOCK HILLS GC, Southampton, NY (REPLIES 71, 78, 122, 144, 201, 468, 909)
SIM PARK GC, Wichita, KS (REPLY 1048)
SIWANOY CC, Mount Vernon, NY (REPLIES 165, 345)
SKOKIE CC, Glencoe, IL (REPLIES 30, 41, 105, 118, 768)
SLEEPY HOLLOW CC, Scarsborough-On-Hudson, NY (REPLIES 145, 476, 818)
SOMERSET CC, Somerset, NJ (REPLIES 721, 761)
SOSPEL GC, France (REPLY 802)
SOUTHERN HILLS CC, Tulsa, OK (REPLY 430)
SOUTH FORK GC, Amagansett, NY (REPLY 777)
SOUTH GROVE GC, Indianapolis, IN (REPLY 885)
SOUTH PARK GC, Buffalo, NY (REPLY 1200)
SOUTH PARK GC, Pittsburgh, PA (REPLY 1063)
SOUTH SHORE CC, Hamburg, NY (REPLY 546)
SPARROWS POINT CC, Baltimore, MD (REPLY 1153)
SPLIT ROCK GC, Bronx, NY (REPLY 233)
SPRING VALLEY CC, Elysia, OH (REPLY 487)
SPRINGFIELD CC, Springfield, MA (REPLIES 419, 426)
ST. ALBANS GC (NLE), St. Albans, NY (REPLIES 212, 519)
ST. ANDREW GC (NLE), Memphis, TN (REPLY 820)
ST. ANDREWS GC, Hastings-On-Hudson, NY (REPLIES 78, 317)
ST. ANDREWS GC, Mount Hope, NY (REPLY 164)
ST. ANDREWS (NEW COURSE), Scotland (REPLY 128)
ST. AUGUSTINE GOLF LINKS, St. Augustine, FL (REPLY 609)
ST. CLOUD CC, France (REPLY 1216)
ST. GEORGE'S GOLF & CC, Etobicoke, Canada (REPLY 454)
ST. LOUIS CC, St. Louis, MO (REPLIES 210, 301)
STAFFORD CC, Stafford, NY (REPLIES 548, 550)
STANMORE GC, Middlesex, England (REPLIES 735, 862)
STATEN ISLAND CRICKET & BASEBALL CLUB, Staten Island, NY (REPLY 200, 940)
STOCKBRIDGE GC, Stockbridge, MA (REPLIES 589, 705)
STOCKHOLMS GOLF KLUBB, Sweden (REPLY 88)
STRICKEN HOUSE ESTATE COURSE (NLE), Scotland (REPLY 109)
SUNG NAM GC, Seongnam, Korea (REPLY 841)
SUNNYSIDE DOWNS GC, Australia (REPLY 160)
SUNNYSIDE GC, Decatur, IL (REPLY 488)
SUNSET RIDGE CC, Winnetka, IL (REPLY 951)
SUTTON COLDFIELD GC, England (REPLY 410)
SWANNANOA CC (a/k/a Asheville CC), Asheville, NC (REPLIES 603, 652)
SWINKELSCHE GC, Netherlands (REPLY 514)
SWOPE PARK GC, Kansas City, KS (REPLIES 361, 420, 1160)
TACKAWANA GC (NLE), Willsboro, NY (REPLY 663)
TACONIC GC, Williamstown, MA (REPLIES 24, 27)
TAFT SCHOOL COURSE, Watertown, CT (REPLY 635)
TALKING ROCK GC, Jasper, GA (REPLY 69)
TAM O'SHANTER CC, West Bloomfield Township, MI (REPLY 572)
TAMPA GOLF LINKS, Tampa, FL (REPLIES 602, 758)
TARRATINE CLUB, Islesboro, ME (REPLY 339)
TEKOA CC, Westfield, MA (REPLY 538)
TEMPLE TERRACE GC, Temple Terrace, FL (REPLY 675)
TEUGEGA CC, Rome, NY (REPLIES 24, 27, 568)
THE COUNTRY CLUB, Brookline, MA (REPLIES 338, 570, 732)
THE COUNTRY CLUB PEPPER PIKE (f/k/a Cleveland CC), Cleveland, OH (REPLIES 71, 245, 864)
THE CREEK CLUB, Locust Valley, NY (REPLY #75)
THE LINKS GC (NLE), Roslyn, NY (REPLY 544)
THE OLD COURSE, St. Andrews, Scotland (REPLIES 5, 78, 255, 376, 409, 466, 506, 518)
THE PATRIOT GC, Tulsa, OK (REPLY 432)
THENDARA CC, Thendara, NY (REPLIES 436, 663)
THORNTREE, Scotland (REPLY 756)
TIMPANAGOS GC, Provo, UT (REPLY 1047)
TITIRANGI GC, Auckland, New Zealand (REPLY 674)
TOPEKA CC, Topeka, KS (REPLIES 1038, 1179, 1180)
TOPEKA GC, Topeka, KS (REPLY 1082)
TORONTO GC, Toronto, Ontario (REPLY 580)
TORRINGTON CC, Torrington, CT (REPLY 1099)
TOWN AND CC, St. Paul, MN (REPLIES 352, 603, 636, 651)
TROON GC, Scotland (REPLIES 109, 518, 918)
TURNBERRY GC, Scotland (REPLIES 50, 380)
TUSCARORA GC, Marcellus, NY (REPLY 492)
TUXEDO CLUB, Tuxedo Park, NY (REPLIES 78, 365)
TWIN HILLS CC, Oklahoma City, OK (REPLY 433)
UISGUINTUIE GC ON ISLAY (NLE), Scotland (REPLY 128)
UNIDENTIFIED COURSE, unknown location in MA (REPLY 989)
UNIDENTIFIED COURSE, location unknown (REPLY 938)
UNITED SHOE MACHINERY GC (a/k/a Beverly Golf & Tennis Club), Beverly, MA (REPLY 981)
UPPER MONTCLAIR CC, Upper Montclair, NJ (REPLY 172)
VALLEY CLUB OF MONTECITO, Montecito, CA (REPLY 3)
VALLEY VIEW GC, Utica, NY (REPLY 241)
VAN CORTLANDT PARK GC, Van Cortlandt Park, NY (REPLIES 221, 314, 375)
VASSAR GC, Poughkeepsie, NY (REPLY 505)
VICHY GC, France (REPLY 824)
VICTORIA CLUB, Riverside, CA (REPLY 525)
WAIALAE CC, Honolulu, HI (REPLY 401)
WAKONDA CC, Des Moines, IA (REPLY 415)
WALLA WALLA CC, Walla Walla, WA (REPLY 619)
WALNEY ISLAND COURSE (Proposed), England (REPLY 655)
WALNUT LANE GC, Philadelphia, PA (REPLIES 80, 753)
WALTON HEATH GC (OLD), England (REPLY 376)
WANAKAH GC, Wanaka, NY (REPLIES 336, 1065)
WANA-LUNA GC, Hot Springs, NC (REPLY 603)
WANNAMOISETT CC, Rumford, RI (REPLY 247)
WARRIOR'S PARK GC, Kingsport, TN (REPLY 496)
WASHINGTON PARK CLUB (NLE), Chicago, IL (REPLIES 41, 532, 768)
WATERTOWN GC, Watertown, CT (REPLY 857)
WATERVLIET ARSENAL GC, Watervliet, NY (REPLY 1035)
WEE BURN CC, Darien, CT (REPLIES 315, 622)
WELLINGBOROUGH GC, England (REPLY 129)
WENTWORTH HOUSE GOLF LINKS, Newcastle, NH (REPLY 604)
WESTBROOK GOLF LINKS, Great River, NY (REPLY 727)
WESTCHESTER GC, Rye, NY (REPLIES 589, 850)
WESTERN GAILES GC, Scotland (REPLIES 106, 376)
WESTERN HILLS GC, Cincinnati, OH (REPLY 903)
WESTHAMPTON CC, Westhampton Beach, NY (REPLIES 56, 121, 523)
WEST KILBRIDE GC, Scotland (REPLY 106)
WESTMOOR CC, Brookfield, WI (REPLY 7)
WEST SUSSEX GC, England (REPLY 671)
WESTWOOD CC, St. Louis, MO (REPLY 961)
WESTWOOD GC, Islip, NY (REPLY 328)
WETHERSFIELD CC, Wethersfield, CT (REPLIES 1022, 1099)
WHEATLEY HILLS GC, East Williston, NY (REPLIES 174, 231, 594)
WHEATON GC, Wheaton, IL (REPLIES 532, 768)
WHISPERING PINES CC, Whispering Pines, NC (REPLY 506)
WHITE BEECHES G&CC, Haworth, NJ (REPLY 1159)
WHITFIELD ESTATES CC, Sarasota, FL (REPLY 504)
WICHITA CC, Wichita, KS (REPLY 435)
WILMINGTON GC, Wilmington, CT (REPLY 973)
WILMSLOW GC, England (REPLY 447)
WILSHIRE CC, Los Angeles, CA (REPLY 1073)
WINDSOR GC, Chicago, IL (REPLY 615)
WINNAPAUG CC, Westerly, RI (REPLY 538)
WOLF POINT GC, Golf Coast, TX (REPLY 159)
WOLLASTON GC, Montclair, MA (REPLY 972)
WOODHALL SPA GC, England (REPLY 376)
WOODSIDE GC, Des Moines, IA (REPLY 1172)
WOODSTOCK CLUB, Indianapolis, IN (REPLY 497)
WYANDOT GC, Columbus, OH (REPLY 915)
WYANTENUCK CC, Barrington, MA (REPLY 846)
WYKAGYL CC, New Rochelle, NY (REPLIES 168, 1090)
WYOMING VALLEY CC, Wilkes-Barre, PA (REPLY 878)
YALE GC, New Haven, CT (REPLIES 50, 59)
YARDLEY CC, Yardley, PA (REPLY 444)
YAHNUNDASIS GC, New Hartford, NY (REPLY 557)
YEAMANS HALL CLUB, Hanahan, SC (REPLY 856)
YELLOWSTONE GC, Livingston, MT (REPLY 1045)
YMCA GOLF LINKS, Sewickley, PA (REPLY 875)




First up is my home course, Carolina Golf Club in Charlotte, NC.  Here is the slightly tattered Ross plan on blue architectural paper...

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/4324416800_715508c24e_o.jpg)

...and an exact replica that the club's original owner had the foresight to convert into stationary...[/size](http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/4324421730_00cffcfefd_b.jpg)...and, finally, Kris Spence's As-built Restoration Plan...[/size](http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4025/4350742959_729ca0a546_b.jpg)Next, courtesy of Sean Tully in this thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,37595.0/ (http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,37595.0/)Knollwood Country Club, Elmsford, NYHoles 1-4 (http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/IMG_3984.jpg)16th green(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/IMG_4009.jpg)6th green(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/IMG_3998.jpg)3rd green(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/IMG_3995.jpg)2nd green(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/IMG_3994.jpg)11th hole(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/IMG_3992.jpg)Date and possible author of the plan that includes location as well(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/IMG_3991.jpg)Holes 10-13(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/IMG_3989.jpg)Holes 15-19(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/IMG_3985.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 01, 2010, 11:20:18 PM
Valley Club of Montecito, courtesy of David Stamm in this thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,38925.0/ (http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,38925.0/)

(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o179/dlk1992/RDC-DARKENTRIAFORM0007.jpg)(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o179/dlk1992/RDC-DARKENTRIAFORM0008.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 01, 2010, 11:25:28 PM
Plainfield Country Club, courtesy of James Bennett in this thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,37578.0/

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/JamesBennett/plainfield/OriginalMap.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 01, 2010, 11:29:20 PM
The Old Course, St. Andrews, courtesy of Chris Parker here... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,32735.0/

(http://www.golfclubatlas.com/images/macwood6lge.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 01, 2010, 11:33:08 PM
Green Gables, Prince Edward Island, courtesy of Jeff Mingay in this thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,36997.0/

(http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u340/jeff_mingay/Green%20Gables/thompson_label.jpg)

(http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u340/jeff_mingay/Green%20Gables/thompson_drawing.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 01, 2010, 11:36:58 PM
Westmoor Country Club, Chicago, courtesy of Dan Moore in this thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,26583.0/

1930 Routing Map
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/troonster/Aerials/westmoor1930routing.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 01, 2010, 11:42:25 PM
Kingston Heath, courtesy of Neil Crafter... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,34846.0/

Mackenzie's bunkering plan
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/KHGCHerald13Jan1927.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 01, 2010, 11:45:29 PM
El Boqueron, Argentina and (hopefully) Texas, courtesy of Neil Crafter... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,38874.0/

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/ElBoqueronLR.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 01, 2010, 11:49:36 PM
Monroe Golf Club, Pittsford, NY, courtesy of John Foley... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,37285.msg765303/

Ross plan
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a116/cbmacfan/IMG_3536.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Pete_Pittock on February 02, 2010, 02:03:18 AM
Ed,
http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,31220.msg608238/
Old Prestwick/New Prestwick routing. Too troglodytic to transfer the image
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Neil_Crafter on February 02, 2010, 05:40:49 AM
Some plans from my Photobucket album:

Mackenzie's plan for Metropolitan (newspaper version)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/MetropolitanPlan.jpg)

Plan of Augusta from 1934 program
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/AugustaProgram1934plan.jpg)

Mackenzie's plan for Cavendish
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/CavendishAMplan.jpg)

Dick Wilson's plan for the 11th at Metropolitan
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/WilsonMetro11plan.jpg)

detail from 1926 plan of Cypress Point
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/CypressPointplan1926hole18.jpg)

Mackenzie sketch plan for Royal Melbourne, western section
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/westernsection.jpg)

Plan of the pre 1926 Sandringham holes at Royal Melbourne
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/RMSandringhamMainPaddockholes.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 02, 2010, 10:18:32 AM
Ed,
http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,31220.msg608238/
Old Prestwick/New Prestwick routing. Too troglodytic to transfer the image

Thanks Pete!   Here it is...

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee38/puddletownpete/100_0972.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Melvyn Morrow on February 02, 2010, 10:43:07 AM

Ed

A small sample of around 50 sketches on the old courses in GB, many from the late 19th Century

Prestwick 1922

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p421/Melvyn_Hunter/PrestwickGC1922-1.jpg)

Prestwick St Nicholas 1892

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p421/Melvyn_Hunter/PrestwickStNicholasGC05-05-1892.jpg)

Kelvinside 1894

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p421/Melvyn_Hunter/EvenTimesKelvinsideCourseMap.jpg)

Brora 1892

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p421/Melvyn_Hunter/BroraGoldCourse19thApril1892.jpg)

Blairgowrie  1892

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p421/Melvyn_Hunter/LansdowneBlairgowrie1892CourseMap.jpg)


Muirfield 1891, 1892 and 2009

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p421/Melvyn_Hunter/MuirfieldGCCourseMaps189118962009.jpg)

Enjoy

Melvyn
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Emil Weber on February 02, 2010, 11:07:16 AM
Thanks Ed and Melvyn,

Interesting to see that Kingston Heath's bunkering is exclusively credited to Mackenzie, but the current bunkering is totally different.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: TEPaul on February 02, 2010, 11:08:25 AM
Ed Oden:

Wonderful idea, subject and thread. Thank you.

I would note of all those various plans a few of Mackenzie's (Kingston Heath, El Boqueron, Cavendish) that seem to be far more developed architectural drawings than just basic "stick routings" (which tend to have little on them other than lines) and the interesting treatment of fairways on those Mackenzie plans. Kingston Heath has a number of areas of what we call "melded fairways" between holes and the other two seem to purposefully have no fairway lines at all on those fairly highly developed architectural drawings.

Was this the actual application of the mention by the likes of Mackenzie and Behr that they wanted to experiment with basically no formal rough in an attempt to take "strategic" architecture and strategic play to another and far more advanced level?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mike Cirba on February 02, 2010, 11:29:09 AM
The architectural drawing (on topo) approved in April 1915 for Cobb's Creek GC, in Philadelphia;


(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2679/4325640004_b87ca75141_o.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2690/4325640034_1f35f57616_o.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2762/4325640064_1cdd45e7df_o.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4054/4325640110_e66ce1c363_o.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2753/4325640208_a4cb1bc309_o.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2748/4325640258_de745246cd_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bill_McBride on February 02, 2010, 11:46:14 AM
Ed Oden:

Wonderful idea, subject and thread. Thank you.

I would note of all those various plans a few of Mackenzie's (Kingston Heath, El Boqueron, Cavendish) that seem to be far more developed architectural drawings than just basic "stick routings" (which tend to have little on them other than lines) and the interesting treatment of fairways on those Mackenzie plans. Kingston Heath has a number of areas of what we call "melded fairways" between holes and the other two seem to purposefully have no fairway lines at all on those fairly highly developed architectural drawings.

Was this the actual application of the mention by the likes of Mackenzie and Behr that they wanted to experiment with basically no formal rough in an attempt to take "strategic" architecture and strategic play to another and far more advanced level?

Tom, if you take a trip out to Santa Barbara and play Mackenzie's Valley Club of Montecito, you can see some of those "melded fairways" in living color today!  The fairways of #16 and #18 meld together for about 150 yards, and all the grass surrounding the 15th green, 16th tee and 18th green is cut at tight fairway length, maybe 4 acres worth.  It is a wonderful look and offers a ton of playing options.

Looking at the drawing (Reply #3) which hangs in the men's grill, you can see that this was Mackenzie's intention.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 02, 2010, 11:50:25 AM
Thanks Neil, Melvyn and Mike!  I have update the index to include your contributions.  Please let me know if I have mislabeled anything.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: TEPaul on February 02, 2010, 12:19:46 PM
Mike Cirba:

On some other thread and in some emails to some of us you wanted to know what it would cost to have a topo done of Cobbs Creek. Just use the one you posted above. Just think----it maybe the only time in golf architecture history somebody used a 95 year old topo for a current project.  ;)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mike Cirba on February 02, 2010, 12:28:36 PM
Tom,

Now that's some frugal Quaker thinking!  ;)

Unfortunately, they won't let us have the original, but I'm hoping to get a duplicate copy, if nothing else than to compare against a modern aerial topo to see what, if anything, has changed.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tim Nugent on February 02, 2010, 12:29:04 PM
Tom Paul, I guess it depends upon your definition of "rough".  You would probably need to examine an architects full body of work chonologigically to see if patterns emerged.  It could be that the drawings with "fairways" were to indicate where to clear to and plant grass.  Whereas others were already in meadowlands and intended to be kept as such and left to the greenskeeper to mow as he saw fit.  We can only guess.  I also wonder if some "Routings" aren't actually "As-builts" or plans developed after the features were constructed to show where the greenskeeper should maintain as playable grounds.  Some old plans are actually surveys done by local engineering/surveying companies  and as such, they would naturally documents things such as fairway lines.

Nice to see we're back to discussions on architecture vs golfers.  The one thing that jumps out at me is (in 2-D) the closeness of some greens to what we refer to as "kill-zones" today.  Must have been nice not to have to worry about lawsuits and Professional Liability linsurance.  
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tom MacWood on February 02, 2010, 12:42:49 PM
Here is an interesting drawing by Sandy Alves.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: John Foley on February 02, 2010, 02:17:09 PM
Ed - Great topic - I have many which we're found on the internet plus a number bought of ebay & out of club histories etc...

Here are a few more

Gil Hanse's Drawing of Taconic

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a116/cbmacfan/Taconic/IMG_3661.jpg)

Ross' plan of Teugega

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a116/cbmacfan/teugega/IMG_3014.jpg)

Stiles drawing of Prout's Neck

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a116/cbmacfan/Stiles4.jpg)

Drawing of Lost Dunes

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a116/cbmacfan/Rendering_large.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: TEPaul on February 02, 2010, 03:43:46 PM
Tim Nugent:

I mentioned Mackenzie and Behr experimenting with a "no rough" design concept and idea not because of these plans because that was a concept they mentioned themselves.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: RJ_Daley on February 02, 2010, 04:10:44 PM
never mind, false start...  ::)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 02, 2010, 05:21:37 PM
John, thanks for the contributions!  I have taken the liberty of resizing your Taconic and Teugega images below to fit the screen...

Taconic
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a116/cbmacfan/Taconic/IMG_3661.jpg)

Teugega
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a116/cbmacfan/teugega/IMG_3014.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Thomas McQuillan on February 02, 2010, 05:49:19 PM
Augusta looks a bit different with the reversed nines. Todays 16th (no.7) is almost unrecognisable. I believe the bunker in the middle of the 11th fairway (no.2) was removed before the courses opening because Bobby Jones father or someone related to him hit into it before the courses opening.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mike Cirba on February 02, 2010, 08:11:14 PM
Ed,

This is just a terrifc idea for a thread...thanks!   ;D

I hope it has a long life and then gets archived somewhere in a prominent place on this site. 

In fact, I'd love to see Ran make it "sticky" for a bit so folks see it and add as they can. 
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tom MacWood on February 02, 2010, 09:58:32 PM
~ early Bendelow
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mike_Young on February 02, 2010, 10:50:35 PM
can anyone tell me how to get pdf files under 300kb or how to post a larger file...
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Scott Henderson on February 02, 2010, 11:13:00 PM
 :o  Thank you for a wonderful thread.  I have only been on the website for a few months and this is a wonderful way for me to get caught up on a number of past threads on architecture.  Great stuff ;D
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 02, 2010, 11:19:00 PM
can anyone tell me how to get pdf files under 300kb or how to post a larger file...

Mike, If you IM or email them to me I can post.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 02, 2010, 11:23:05 PM
Royal County Down, courtesy of Dan King... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,1848.0/

(http://www.danking.org/pics/royalcountydown.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mike_Young on February 02, 2010, 11:23:54 PM
Ed,
Let me see if this will work...they may not be clear and may need to be larger but these are just some scraps from "Bread and Butter" courses and a Longshadow rendering...just good for those that like to look at this stuff......
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 02, 2010, 11:42:44 PM
North Berwick, courtesy of James Boon... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,39703.msg833126/

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn267/jamesboon53/2009%2004%20North%20Berwick/nboldmap1.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn267/jamesboon53/2009%2004%20North%20Berwick/nboldmap2.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn267/jamesboon53/2009%2004%20North%20Berwick/nboldmap3.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn267/jamesboon53/2009%2004%20North%20Berwick/nboldmap4.jpg)

...together with further contributions from Tony Muldoon in the same thread...

(http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo40/Muldoon4/N%20Berwick/1890scourse.jpg)
(http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo40/Muldoon4/N%20Berwick/NBerwick1895-1.jpg)

...and here... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,33065.msg657134/

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f174/Muldoon3/North%20berwick/NB13TH.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 02, 2010, 11:46:47 PM
A 1914 drawing of Pine Valley, courtesy of Joe Bausch... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,32551.0/

(http://darwin.chem.villanova.edu/~bausch/images/pv_1_04_1914_Inky.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 02, 2010, 11:50:28 PM
Copake Country Club, courtesy of Mark Fine... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,27661.0/

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c43/mkfine/CopakeLayout.jpg?t=1169735110)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 02, 2010, 11:58:14 PM
Biarritz Golf Links, courtesy of Tony Muldoon... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,21926.0/

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f174/Muldoon3/Biarritz/DSCN0619.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f174/Muldoon3/Biarritzholeplan8.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 03, 2010, 12:17:19 AM
And finally (at least for tonight), Neil Crafter's treasure trove on Royal Melbourne... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,32408.70/

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/WallPlan.jpg)

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/RMGCWestPlanSportingGlobe.jpg)

Hole #2 coloured plan
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/RMWWallPlan2.jpg)

Sporting Globe plan of Hole 2 just prior to opening
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/RMW2SportingGlobe.jpg)

Hole #4 coloured plan
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/RMWWallPlan4.jpg)

Sporting Globe plan of Hole 4
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/RMW4SportingGlobe.jpg)

Coloured plan of Hole 18
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/RMWWallPlan18.jpg)

Sporting Globe plan of Hole 18
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/RMW18SportingGlobe.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sean_Tully on February 03, 2010, 01:36:07 AM
One of my favorites and an early CBM course NLE in Chicago!

The second one is a companion to Tom's version for Skokie.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Phil_the_Author on February 03, 2010, 01:40:27 AM
Tilly's first - Shawnee in 1911:

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo90/PhiltheAuthor/Original1911Shawnee.jpg)

In late 1912 Tilly redesigned Shawnee, rerouting several holes and lengthening the course by nearly 500 yards:

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo90/PhiltheAuthor/ShawneeCCCourseSketchca1914.jpg)

These can both be found on the newly rebuilt Tillinghast Association website that we hope to have up and running shortly. It will contain many more drawings, sketches, photos and numerous surprises! I'll let all know when it is available...
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Neil_Crafter on February 03, 2010, 07:54:33 AM
A couple more:
Maxwell & Mackenzie plan for Melrose
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/MelroseMM.jpg)

Extract from Mackenzie's plan for Royal Adelaide
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/RAGCAM1926Planextract.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mike Cirba on February 03, 2010, 07:58:18 AM
The original course at Seaview (today's Bay Course) circa 1914;

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/3149635994_e9a6d9b71f_o.jpg)

A William Flynn drawing of his nine-hole addition to Seaview, circa late 1920's  (most exists today as part of the Pines Course)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3297/3175070791_cc54524607_b.jpg)

A mid 1920's map of Cobb's Creek detailing changes that were made at that time;

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3368/3210041590_36fbfd35bd_o.jpg)

Merion for the 1916 US Amateur, drawn by William Flynn I believe;

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3369/3507806192_fb08a2d604_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 03, 2010, 09:09:30 AM
Mike Cirba, thanks for the kind words from yesterday.  I have resized a few of your pictures here...

The original course at Seaview (today's Bay Course) circa 1914
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/3149635994_e9a6d9b71f_o.jpg)

A William Flynn drawing of his nine-hole addition to Seaview, circa late 1920's  (most exists today as part of the Pines Course)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3297/3175070791_cc54524607_b.jpg)

Merion for the 1916 US Amateur, drawn by William Flynn I believe
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3369/3507806192_fb08a2d604_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bill_McBride on February 03, 2010, 10:02:27 AM
Wow, what a bunch of interesting maps and routing plans!  It would be great if there were a way to save this thread and some other vital stuff in an accessible but separate area of the website.

I think the most interesting thing I saw is the plan of North Berwick that shows a double green for #6 and #12!  I had never heard of that before.   The current 12th green is much closer to the ocean and well separated from the 6th green.

Ed, thanks for all the work putting this together and coordinating others' submissions.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Charlie Goerges on February 03, 2010, 10:04:01 AM
A restored and colorized version of Flynn's plan for Lehigh CC.


(http://1pj7wg.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pyXUhFbGYyvPvrKoRn1EpAbRXJNb5KFUTVl4fYGoFJPE9fduiiLOso7JwHd4eqqRmsWrLX6iNT-nLPoqcmh-McOH_c3IK0ZK5/Color%202%20reduced.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mike Cirba on February 03, 2010, 10:20:54 AM
How cool is that double green for #1 and #17 at North Berwick?   

Or, many of the other features on that map, including the 6/12 double green?

I think we should push for a restoration!  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bill_McBride on February 03, 2010, 10:24:35 AM
How cool is that double green for #1 and #17 at North Berwick?   

Or, many of the other features on that map, including the 6/12 double green?

I think we should push for a restoration!  ;)  ;D

Mike, I knew about 1 and 17, that could still be done today, but 6 and 12 are well separated these days.  First time I've ever seen that mentioned!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: John Foley on February 03, 2010, 02:12:45 PM
Here a few more - would love to see some more from the architects on here - show us the goods guys!!

Plan of Chicago from Chip's post

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a116/cbmacfan/Chicago.jpg)

Plan of Ballyneal from their web site

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a116/cbmacfan/RoutingMap.jpg)

Plan of Ballyhack

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a116/cbmacfan/Ballyhack-Masterplan.jpg)

Plan of Belfair in SC

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a116/cbmacfan/belfair.jpg)

Plan of the never built Pacific Gailes by Fought

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a116/cbmacfan/beltzzfarm.jpg)

Tiger proposed plan for Punta Brava in Mexico - some copying of the Raisz plan of NGLA here

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a116/cbmacfan/oct8_tigercourse_600x505.jpg)

Plan of Crstal Downs done by Mike Devries in Paul Daley's golf course architecture book

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a116/cbmacfan/crystaldowns1.jpg)

Plan of Kingsley done by Mike Devries in Paul Daley's golf course architecture book

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a116/cbmacfan/kingsleyscan.jpg)

Plan of Turnberry - from a thread last summer

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a116/cbmacfan/DSCF0073.jpg)

Plan of Yale & proposed 2nd course

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a116/cbmacfan/yale-1.jpg)

There are two very cool ones at the Tufts archives in Pinehurst - Raynor's plan of Lookout Mt & Fought's re-do of Pine Needles
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: James Boon on February 03, 2010, 03:23:29 PM
Ed,

Great thread (even if you did steal my thunder by posting the North Berwick plan!)  ;D

Cheers,

James
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Neil_Crafter on February 03, 2010, 04:01:47 PM
hand drawn plan (by me) of our final stage of changes to Glenelg GC here in Adelaide

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/Glenelg12-17Plan.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Josh Smith on February 03, 2010, 05:10:56 PM
This is an oil painting Plan View of Prairie Club sans the Horse Course.  Lots of acreage covered here.  Holes are numbered if you look close.  Lehman upper right, Marsh lower left.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l7/jcfsmith/Lehmanplanviewcorrected.jpg)

Just the Lehman course....

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l7/jcfsmith/Lehmanplanviewcorrectedonlylehma-1.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jeff Doerr on February 03, 2010, 09:28:43 PM
Really a great thread!

The history and beauty is powerful.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tim_Cronin on February 03, 2010, 10:10:56 PM
Excellent thread, the essence of what this site is all about. How does one post illustrations, anyway?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tom MacWood on February 03, 2010, 10:53:50 PM
Charles Banks' lost course at Westhampton.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Chris Cupit on February 03, 2010, 11:17:39 PM
Sorry for the camera phone quality.  I was amazed at the length of the course for the 1940's.

(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm66/chriscupit/IMG_0009.jpg)

(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm66/chriscupit/IMG_0011.jpg)

(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm66/chriscupit/IMG_0012.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tom MacWood on February 03, 2010, 11:23:52 PM
That's a cool map of Peachtree...the super-sized tees standout.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 03, 2010, 11:27:00 PM
John Foley, I have taken the liberty of resizing a few of your photos here...

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a116/cbmacfan/Ballyhack-Masterplan.jpg)

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a116/cbmacfan/belfair.jpg)

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a116/cbmacfan/crystaldowns1.jpg)

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a116/cbmacfan/yale-1.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 03, 2010, 11:42:47 PM
Chris, thanks for the Peachtree drawings.  Have some of the alternate tees (like 14 and 15) been abandoned?  I don't remember them.

I have also resized your photos here to fit the screen...

(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm66/chriscupit/IMG_0009.jpg)

(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm66/chriscupit/IMG_0011.jpg)

(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm66/chriscupit/IMG_0012.jpg)

By the way, does anyone care about me resizing the photos?  I am happy to stop if its not helping.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 04, 2010, 12:42:26 AM
I'd like to thank everyone who has participated in this thread.  It has turned out far better than I could have imagined.  Proof positive of the wealth of knowledge and information within the walls of the DG.  While I appreciate the kind words thrown in my direction, the real praise should go to those who have collected or created all these great materials.  That's why I've tried to give those persons credit when I reposted their items (sorry for stealing your North Berwick thunder James Boon).  Anyway, I have every expectation that this thread will slide off the front page in the not too distant future as enthusiasm wanes.  Regardless, I hope people will remember to add things as they crop up or notify me so that I can do so.  Thanks again!

Ed
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sean_Tully on February 04, 2010, 02:02:37 AM
Nakoma Tom Bendelow 1925

Oakmont 1908 circa

Tully

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ben Stephens on February 04, 2010, 04:12:54 AM
Ed,

Here is one I have done for Rutland Water's Normanton Course - this was drawn on AutoCAD and coloured in Photoshop

(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/bsdesign/RWGolfCoursePlanA3.jpg)

Cheers
Ben
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tom MacWood on February 04, 2010, 06:11:08 AM
It is interesting to contrast that plan by Bendelow for Nakoma with his earlier stuff. At the time of Nakoma he was partnered with Myron West at American Park Builders; West was a fairly prominent Landscape Architect. You can see his influence in the drawing, from the use of water feature to the grouping of trees to the presentation style.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sean_A on February 04, 2010, 06:58:24 AM
Wow, what a bunch of interesting maps and routing plans!  It would be great if there were a way to save this thread and some other vital stuff in an accessible but separate area of the website.

Ace

Your wish is my command.

http://delicious.com/golfclubatlas/MAPS

If any of you haven't already, you should bookmark this site as it has a wealth of golf course tours etc.

Ciao
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: James Boon on February 04, 2010, 08:50:01 AM
I'd like to thank everyone who has participated in this thread.  It has turned out far better than I could have imagined.  Proof positive of the wealth of knowledge and information within the walls of the DG.  While I appreciate the kind words thrown in my direction, the real praise should go to those who have collected or created all these great materials.  That's why I've tried to give those persons credit when I reposted their items (sorry for stealing your North Berwick thunder James Boon).  Anyway, I have every expectation that this thread will slide off the front page in the not too distant future as enthusiasm wanes.  Regardless, I hope people will remember to add things as they crop up or notify me so that I can do so.  Thanks again!

Ed

Ed,

No problem! I was only joking  ;D 

I always have a scout around any clubhouse I visit for old photos and maps. But from now on I shall take pictures of what I find for posting here. May have a few others in books at home that I'll try and dig out when I have time.

Cheers,

James
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bill_McBride on February 04, 2010, 09:27:32 AM
Wow, what a bunch of interesting maps and routing plans!  It would be great if there were a way to save this thread and some other vital stuff in an accessible but separate area of the website.

Ace

Your wish is my command.

http://delicious.com/golfclubatlas/MAPS

If any of you haven't already, you should bookmark this site as it has a wealth of golf course tours etc.

Ciao

Well done, thanks!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ben Stephens on February 04, 2010, 10:54:19 AM
Old Mac routing

(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/bsdesign/Golf%20courses/OldMac.jpg)

Should we ask Tom D for more sketches of Old Mac? I would certainly be interested about the evolution from the original sketch to the end product.

Cheers
Ben
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 04, 2010, 11:02:19 AM
Mike Young was kind enough to forward a bunch of his drawings on Talking Rock Golf Club. 

Routing Plan
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/WilmRouting_021905DSh1.jpg?t=1265297960)

Clearing Plan
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/WilmClearing_021905DSh3.jpg?t=1265298052)

Strategy/Grassing Plan
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/WilmStrategy_021905DSh12.jpg?t=1265298771)

Rough Cut Contour Plan
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/WilmContour_021905DSh62.jpg?t=1265298877)

Finish Grade Contour Plan
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/WilmFinGrade_021905DSh9.jpg?t=1265298956)

Green Detail
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/WilmGreenDetail_1-1.jpg?t=1265299001)

Thanks Mike!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 04, 2010, 01:55:27 PM
Penn State Golf Course routing plan, courtesy of Kyle Harris... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,22134.0/

(http://static.flickr.com/6/5814311_0dc710aeeb_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 09, 2010, 10:23:51 PM
Courtesy of Wayne Morrison in his terrific Feature Interview... http://golfclubatlas.com/feature-interview/wayne-morrison-december-2009

Merion East #14
(http://golfclubatlas.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/WayneMimage.jpg)

Mill Road Farm #6
(http://golfclubatlas.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/OL6.jpg)

Indian Creek #6
(http://golfclubatlas.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/ICCC6-2.jpg)

The Country Club in Pepper Pike #17
(http://golfclubatlas.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/TCCPP17.jpg)

Cascades #14
(http://golfclubatlas.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Cascades14b-small.jpg)

Shinnecock #5
(http://golfclubatlas.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/SHCG5thfinal.jpg)

Shinnecock #2
(http://golfclubatlas.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/SHGC-2nd.jpg)

Kittansett #11
(http://golfclubatlas.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Kittansett11.jpg)

CC of York - Ross and Flynn routing overlays
(http://golfclubatlas.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CCYork.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: JimFatsi on February 10, 2010, 10:01:05 AM
Brooklawn
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 10, 2010, 11:15:20 AM
Thanks Jim!  That is a fantastic map of Brooklawn.

Kris Spence sent me Travis' 1923 plan for Camden Country Club...
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Camden_Travis_Plan.jpg?t=1265817686)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Charlie Goerges on February 10, 2010, 01:06:28 PM
The USGA Architecture Archive has several good ones. I don't believe the provide any way to link to them from an outside website. They have some huge ones for Merion, Pinehurst and others, as well as a good one for Oakmont.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Michael Rossi on February 10, 2010, 01:16:34 PM
Ed

When you are reviewing the drawings can you tell me the oldest drawing you have that illustrates grassing lines? The question comes from a discussion had on this site about when they first started showing up on plans.

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 10, 2010, 09:26:05 PM
Ed

When you are reviewing the drawings can you tell me the oldest drawing you have that illustrates grassing lines? The question comes from a discussion had on this site about when they first started showing up on plans.



Michael, its impossible to say since so many of them are not dated.  But take a look at the first picture in Reply #50 for a 1912 map of Chicago Golf Club that clearly shows fairway lines.  So the practice goes back at least that far.

Ed
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Michael Rossi on February 10, 2010, 09:30:02 PM
Thank you Ed
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on February 16, 2010, 05:59:03 AM
All of these from The Sun newspaper in 1895.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/June16_1895_Sun_AsburyPark.jpg)

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/June16_1895_Sun_Baltusrol.jpg)

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/June16_1895_Sun_Lakewood.jpg)

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/June16_1895_Sun_MorrisCounty.jpg)

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/June16_1895_Sun_Shinnecock.jpg)

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/June16_1895_Sun_StAndrewsLinks.jpg)

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/June16_1895_Sun_StAndrewsScotland.jpg)

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/June16_1895_Sun_TuxedoClub.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mike Cirba on February 16, 2010, 07:16:57 AM
Thanks Joe...I think we desperately need to bring back the "Snake Fence" and "Dismal Swamp" as hazards in the modern game.

Interesting that the Tuxedo Club had an "Alps"....Ardsley had one back then, as well.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on February 16, 2010, 09:16:50 AM
Walnut Lane (Findlay) original routing.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/WalnutLane_drawing.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on February 16, 2010, 11:19:03 AM
From the 1896 NY Sun, the routing of the Willie Park Knollwood CC:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/February02_1896_NYSun_Knollwood_routing.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 17, 2010, 11:22:49 PM
Thanks Joe!  I've updated the index.  I have also added Kris Spence's As-Built Restoration Plan for Carolina Golf Club in Reply #1. Finally, here are a number of maps of Flossmoor Country Club (formerly known as Homewood Country Club) courtesy of Greg Ohlendorf's recent In My Opinion piece... http://golfclubatlas.com/in-my-opinion/flossmoor-country-club


1901 Green Book of the original Homewood Country Club course...
(http://golfclubatlas.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/green-book-routing.jpg)

Homewood map circa 1900...
(http://golfclubatlas.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Homewood-CC.jpg)

Homewood layout early 1900s...
(http://golfclubatlas.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/HCC_layout.jpg)

Ray Hearn master renovation plan for Flossmoor...
(http://golfclubatlas.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/FlossArtist-drawing.jpg)

I'll try to post a few more that I have over the next couple of days.  In the meantime, if anyone else has anything, please continue to add them or feel free to send them to me and I will do so.

Ed
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 01, 2010, 08:55:45 PM
Captain's Cove, courtesy of Lester George...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/CaptainsCoveMP1.jpg?t=1267494501)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Dónal Ó Ceallaigh on March 02, 2010, 07:16:12 PM
Portmarnock from 1936.

(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz169/doceallaigh/PlayersCardofChampionshipCourses193.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Dónal Ó Ceallaigh on March 02, 2010, 07:21:02 PM
Portsalon from 1908.

(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz169/doceallaigh/Portsalon_Shrubsole1908_5.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Dónal Ó Ceallaigh on March 02, 2010, 07:29:37 PM
Rosapenna (1906-1913), taken from Shrubsole's 1908 book "Picturesque Donegal".

(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz169/doceallaigh/Coastguard/RosapennaGolfLinks_Vardon_Layout_19.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Eric Smith on March 02, 2010, 07:48:32 PM
I snapped this in the clubhouse at Chechessee Creek Club (Coore/Crenshaw):

(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/CHECHESSEE%20CREEK%20CLUB%202%2021%202010/c3/CCCrouting.jpg?t=1267577174)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Dónal Ó Ceallaigh on March 02, 2010, 08:06:32 PM
Stockholms Golf Klubb - Fågelbaken Course (1904-06)

(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz169/doceallaigh/Fgelbaken.jpg)

Stockholms Golf Klubb - Storängsbotten Course (1906-12)

(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz169/doceallaigh/fb.jpg)

Stockholms Golf Klubb - Råsunda Course (1912-26)

(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz169/doceallaigh/Rsundabanan.jpg)

Stockholms Golf Klubb - Sticklinge Course (1926-31)

(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz169/doceallaigh/Sticklinge.jpg)

Stockholms Golf Klubb - Kevinge Course (1932)

(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz169/doceallaigh/Kevinge.jpg)

Stockholms Golf Klubb - Kevinge Course (2002)

(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz169/doceallaigh/Kevinge2002.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 02, 2010, 09:35:24 PM
Thanks Donal and Eric!  I have added your contributions to the index.

Ed
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bill Rocco on March 02, 2010, 09:55:41 PM
Great post, I am just a little confused.....On the Seaview routing map in Galloway twp.  I see it says that it is along James Leeds road.  Im almost positive that it is Jimmie Leeds Road.  Just wondering if anybody knew anything about that???
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mike Cirba on March 03, 2010, 02:01:06 PM
Compliments of Tom MacWood, I believe, here is the Crump/Colt "blue/red" working topo map of Pine Valley.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2731/4404668772_1e782b51ac_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Paul Carey on March 03, 2010, 02:08:48 PM
Does anyone know a place or places where some of these may be for sale?  I have St. Andrews and Pebble Beach in my study framed and I like the routing maps, architectural drawings much better than pictures of courses. 

I assume they are the property of the clubs not the architect but I have not seen them for sale at any clubs.

Thanks.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jason Topp on March 03, 2010, 02:11:15 PM
Here is a link to the Tillinghast society section of sketches and routing plans.  I am not comfortable copying any of the images so I will just provide the link.

http://www.tillinghast.net/Tillinghast/DESIGN_SKETECHES.html
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Dónal Ó Ceallaigh on March 03, 2010, 04:17:36 PM
Co. Sligo (Rosses Point), Ireland (plan taken from Golf Review 1909). Course designed by Captain William Campbell in 1907.

(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz169/doceallaigh/1907_CaptWilliamCampbell_GolfReview.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bill_McBride on March 05, 2010, 02:37:39 PM
Captain's Cove, courtesy of Lester George...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/CaptainsCoveMP1.jpg?t=1267494501)

I have nightmares of courses like this routing.  Yikes!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 05, 2010, 07:17:06 PM
Does anyone know a place or places where some of these may be for sale?  I have St. Andrews and Pebble Beach in my study framed and I like the routing maps, architectural drawings much better than pictures of courses. 

I assume they are the property of the clubs not the architect but I have not seen them for sale at any clubs.

Thanks.

Paul, I don't know about anything that has been posted on this thread, but Forrest Richardson has some nice drawings for sale on Golframes.com...

http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,37736.0/

http://golframes.com/

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Paul Carey on March 05, 2010, 10:50:12 PM
Ed,

Thanks,

Paul
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: john_stiles on March 05, 2010, 10:58:39 PM
Does anyone know a place or places where some of these may be for sale?  I have St. Andrews and Pebble Beach in my study framed and I like the routing maps, architectural drawings much better than pictures of courses.  

I assume they are the property of the clubs not the architect but I have not seen them for sale at any clubs.

Thanks.

Paul,

1>  As maybe mentioned previously,  for  Ross courses,  you can visit the  Tufts Archives  web site, http://www.tuftsarchives.org/   

From home page you go to 'Donald Ross' and then  'List of Ross Courses' and then  'View...' .   You will a list of Ross courses, and the documents for each course.  Tufts has the  'Ross' layouts for a number of courses, and has the individual hole sketches in some instances.

I noted Tufts has routing plans for a number of courses and quickly noted a few courses often discussed at GCA,

Aronimick
Holston Hills
Linville
Longmeadow
Oak Hill
Seminole

I ordered a copy of Ross' Seminole plan and was happy with the result.

2>    At  eBay,  if you search   'golf course maps'   you can find a number of the 'modern' color renderings of the old courses.  A few are in the style of the 'World Atlas of Golf'  if you know what I mean.  It is the style of oblique aerial sketchings that I first noticed in World Atlas of Golf back in the mid 80s.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Paul Carey on March 07, 2010, 07:58:53 PM
John,

Thanks. 

Paul
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: john_stiles on March 07, 2010, 11:26:56 PM
This is the golf course plan for Holston Hills designed by Ross.  The plan was drawn by WI Johnson as indicated by name in lower left hand corner.

This image was created from an old dirty blueprint which was scanned and cleaned up.   The scanned image was enlarged to about 3 by 5 feet as shown below, and is framed out to about 4 by 6 feet, and is hung above the fireplace in the clubhouse ballroom.

The old plan shows the current routing, and green locations, a few new tees being added through the years.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/jstiles/HH_003.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: john_stiles on March 08, 2010, 08:57:08 PM
Below is the routing map for Lookout Mountain designed by Raynor.  The plan was drawn by a local Chattanooga company. Two foot contours are marked on the drawing.

The plan shows the original hole sequence with the location of the clubhouse on the edge of the brow (a sheer 1000 foot precipice) behind the current no. 2 green.

So the original first would be the current 3rd.    The routing remains intact, except due to the move of clubhouse location, the present first became a par 4,  instead of the par 5 as planned for original 17th.     The present clubhouse is between the 16th hole and 17th tee in this 1926 plan.  

You can see the Short and the Biarritz, and the Alps.

The map has this nice coloring of an old brown, and darker brown for the bunkers,  and a dark green.

Oh, and the club was originally named  Fairyland as you can see in the photo.  The area roads up on the mountain are named  Red Riding Hood, Cinderella, etc.   The locals pronounce the name  as   'fair-land' to this day (the y is silent).  The story goes that the wonderful supporter of all things Chattanooga and amateur golf,   Mr. Jack Lupton played in a member guest up at a fancy eastern club.  One member remarked it was nice they had a club for everyone in Chattanooga, or some such.   The club president Mr Lupton changed the name to  Lookout Mountain. 

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/jstiles/LM_01-1.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ben Sims on March 08, 2010, 10:55:30 PM
Below is the routing map for Lookout Mountain designed by Raynor.  


John,

Thanks for this.  One of the assistant pros at Lookout gave us--Dr. Gray and I--a poster of the original plan.  It was pretty fun comparing it to some of the drawings in the Men's Grille.

Man what a cool place, and what a great experience.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 08, 2010, 11:44:38 PM
Thanks John!  I have updated the index to reflect your contributions.

And many thanks to Niall Carlton for sending me the following:

Aberfoyle Golf Club 1891
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/AberfoyleGC04-07-189100011.jpg?t=1268108558)

Lanark Golf Club 1891
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/LanarkGC17-10-189100011.jpg)

Machrie Golf Links 1891
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/MachrieGC21-05-189100011.jpg)

Bearsden Golf Club 1891
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/BearsdenGC16-05-18910001.jpg)

Cathkin Braes Golf Club 1891
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/CathkinBraesGC16-07-18910001.jpg)

Eastwood Golf Course 1891
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/EastwoodGC28-09-18910001.jpg)

Irvine Golf Club 1892
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/IrvineGC21-05-18920001.jpg)

Kilmalcolm Golf Club 1892
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/KilmalcolmGC17-08-18910001.jpg)

Moray Golf Club 1892
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/MorayGC02-05-18920001.jpg?t=1268109338)

Prestwick at St. Nicholas 1892
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/PrestwickStNicholasGC05-05-18920001.jpg)

Sandwich Golf Links 1892
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/SandwichGC11-05-18920001.jpg?t=1268109557)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sean_A on March 09, 2010, 02:43:00 AM
Braid's re-design of St Enodoc in 1907
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff114/seanrobertarble/ST%20ENODOC/30March2009045.jpg?t=1268120338)

Braid's 1937 re-design.  
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff114/seanrobertarble/ST%20ENODOC/30March2009046.jpg?t=1268120444)

I would say it is likely that #s 1, 8, 10, 11, 12 &18 are not Braid holes.  With the exception of #10, the only original 19th century hole remaining, I think Braid inherited the others from the combo of Fowler(1923) and Simpson (1933).  


Ciao
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Dan Moore on March 09, 2010, 10:27:39 AM
To complement the first two Skokie maps previously posted here are the Ross and Langford versions.  Very interesting to compare the Bendelow to the Ross. 

Bendelow
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/troonster/Skokie/skokiebendelow18.jpg)

Ross
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/troonster/Skokie/skokie1922Ross.jpg)

Langford Moreau
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/troonster/Skokie/skokie1939.jpg)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 09, 2010, 10:54:37 PM
Thanks Dan!  The index has been updated accordingly.

Plus, more from Niall Carlton's files:

Glencorse 1895
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/GlencorseGC20-04-18950001.jpg?t=1268192815)

Ranfurly Castle 1897
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/RanfurlyCastleGC17-09-18970001.jpg?t=1268192926)

West Kilbride 1893
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/WestKilbrideGC13-05-18930001.jpg?t=1268193084)

Western Gailes 1897
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/WesternGailesGC26-11-18970001.jpg?t=1268193172)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 10, 2010, 08:07:40 PM
Pinehurst #2, circa 1922, courtesy of Chris Buie in this thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,41879.35/

(http://sandhillsinsider.com/2map.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 10, 2010, 08:19:31 PM
Manoir Richelieu, courtesty of Tom Macwood in this thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,43509.0/

(http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43509.0;attach=4742;image)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 10, 2010, 09:13:01 PM
And more from the seemingly endless files of Niall Carlton...

Troon 1923
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Scot15-06-1923planofTroon0001.jpg?t=1268272464)

Royal Cinque Ports 1923
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Scot05-05-1923PlanofDeal0001.jpg?t=1268272584)

Proposed plan for a NLE Mackenzie course at the Stricken House Estate in Aberdeenshire
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/DSCF0432.jpg?t=1268272675)

Buckle Golf Course
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Picture013.jpg?t=1268272838)

Cullen
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Picture020.jpg?t=1268272908)

Prestwick 1925
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/PrestwickGCPlanET24-06-19250001.jpg?t=1268272962)

Moray 1894
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/TheBulger22-08-18940001.jpg?t=1268273052)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ron Farris on March 11, 2010, 11:34:58 AM
Just to add some levity to the thread - Here is a picture of a some routing work I did at a site in SD.  The wind was blowing so hard I gave up using the topo map.
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g142/farrisgolf/RoutingatSite-RONFARRIS-1.jpg)

Right Brain-Left Brain  - No Brain
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 11, 2010, 08:27:11 PM
Ron, that's outstanding!  I assume Cedar Shore GC was never built.  Is that right?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on March 12, 2010, 04:31:52 AM
Merion West (July 27, 1913 edition of the Philadelphia Inquirer).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Merion_West_layout_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on March 12, 2010, 05:05:30 AM
Original nine holes at Lu Lu (March 30, 1915 edition of the Philadelphia Inquirer):

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/lulu_orig_9holes.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 13, 2010, 07:37:12 PM
Myopia Hunt Club, courtesy of Tom MacWood here... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,40810.315/

1902 map
(http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=40810.0;attach=2316;image)

Weeks map
(http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=40810.0;attach=2317;image)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 15, 2010, 01:51:46 PM
Mark Pritchett was kind enough to send me this map of Augusta Country Club...
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Christoph Meister on March 16, 2010, 05:12:49 PM
To complement the Prestwick Plans I have enclosed a 1905 layout plan from "The Golfer's Yearbook 1905", edited by John L. Low.

Regarding continental European golf courses I have enclosed a layout plan by J.H.Taylor / Hawtree of Pallanza GC (NLE) on the shores of Lake Maggiore in Northern Italy. The course was built in 1928 and by the mid 1930's it was allready defunct. Nevertheless a nice and colourful layout plan.

Also I have enclosed a Bernhard von Limburger Layout plan for Munich GC at Strasslach from 1962 as well as one of his typical green drawings (here Green No.3 at Garlstedter Heide - Bremen Club zur Vahr).

Finally a layout plan of Colt/Morrison's Hamburg-Falkenstein dating 1935.

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 16, 2010, 08:57:53 PM
Christoph, those drawings are fantastic!  Thanks for added them.  I have updated the index accordingly.

Ed
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sean_Tully on March 17, 2010, 03:05:20 AM
Skokie early 1901 to finish it off!

and Queens Valley Emmet 1923




Tully

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/skokieGolfersGreenBook1901.jpg)








(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/QueensvalleygolfclubGolfIllustrated.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tom MacWood on March 17, 2010, 06:37:15 AM
Christoph
Those are very interesting drawings. In Bob Cosby's essay he was very critical of JH Taylor because of his dislike of central hazards. Based on you drawing he must have gotten over that dislike later in his career. The von Limburger drawing reminds me a little bit of Simpson.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Christoph Meister on March 17, 2010, 07:02:54 AM
Tom,

The terrain at Pallanza is a completely flat and rather treeless one (& used today as a camping ground) this most probably explains the high number of bunkers in Taylor's/Hawtree layout plans. The course had some nice views onto the lake and rivers surrounding the golf course as it is in midst of a river delta.

I was also thinking about von Limburgers Green sketch yesterday while scanning it and I thougt that it reminded me of some 1926 sketches made by Colt...than I had a look at some Tom Simpson sketches and also thought the same way you did.

And of course von Limburger modeled himself on Colt, Morrison, Simpson and George Thomas when starting his career as a golf course architect during the second half of the 1920s - there is strong evidence in the archives!

Christoph
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 18, 2010, 04:24:40 PM
Westhampton GC, courtesy of Tom MacWood in this thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,42325.msg944948/

(http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42325.0;attach=4808;image)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 18, 2010, 05:04:38 PM
And thanks to Sean Tully for allowing me to post some additional items from his web page.  Sean actually started this thread a few years ago ... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,22799.0/ ...which I found while searching for enough information on Queens Valley GC to be able to update the index to this thread (I'd never heard of the course before).  Sean's old thread contains a link to his web page, which has some very cool stuff.  I'd encourage folks to poke around there if they get a chance.  In the meantime, here are a few things I found in Sean's collection:

Shinnecock 1893 - Golf in America 1895
(http://homepage.mac.com/tullfescue/.Pictures/layouts/Shinny1893Golf%20in%20America1895.jpg)

Belmont Golf Club - 1901 Golfers Green Book
(http://homepage.mac.com/tullfescue/.Pictures/layouts/belmontGolfers%20Green%20Book%201901.jpg)

Chicago Golf Club - 1901 Golfers Green Book
(http://homepage.mac.com/tullfescue/.Pictures/layouts/CGCGolfers%20Green%20Book%201901.jpg)

Evanston King's Daughters Golf Course - 1901 Golfers Green Book
(http://homepage.mac.com/tullfescue/.Pictures/layouts/evanstonskingsdaughtersGolfers%20Green%20Book%201901.jpg)

Hinsdale Golf Club - 1901 Golfers Green Book
(http://homepage.mac.com/tullfescue/.Pictures/layouts/hinsdaleGolfers%20Green%20Book.jpg)

Portmanteau Golf Course - December 1924 Golf Illustrated
(http://homepage.mac.com/tullfescue/.Pictures/layouts/PortmanteauDecemberGI1924.jpg)

Pinehurst (No2???)- December 1909 USGA Bulletin
(http://homepage.mac.com/tullfescue/.Pictures/bunkers%20and%20hazards/PinehurstUSGABulletinDecemberr1909.jpg)

San Francisco Golf Club - 1925 map
(http://homepage.mac.com/tullfescue/.Pictures/SFGC/IMG_7074.JPG)

Does anyone know where Portmanteau GC is/was located?  Or which of the Pinehurst courses is depicted in the drawing above?  For that matter, please feel free to help me out if you see any incorrect information in the index.  There's no way I haven't made a few errors along the way.

Ed
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tony_Muldoon on March 19, 2010, 04:07:20 AM
Christoph
Those are very interesting drawings. In Bob Cosby's essay he was very critical of JH Taylor because of his dislike of central hazards. Based on you drawing he must have gotten over that dislike later in his career. The von Limburger drawing reminds me a little bit of Simpson.


Hawtree fils wrote a piece saying once his father and Taylor hooked up it wasn't the famous name designing the courses!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: James Boon on March 19, 2010, 05:20:21 AM
Just to add some levity to the thread - Here is a picture of a some routing work I did at a site in SD.  The wind was blowing so hard I gave up using the topo map.
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g142/farrisgolf/RoutingatSite-RONFARRIS-1.jpg)

Right Brain-Left Brain  - No Brain

Ron,

I love this one, thanks for posting it!

Most people can take the time to sit at a drawing board or computer and produce half decent drawings or plans, but the ability to sketch on site is in this computer age, a dying art I feel? As an architect of buildings rather than courses, I've had to sketch plans or details on unfinished walls, bits of timber, scraps of paper and the obligatory napkin, while on site, to get my ideas across. Good to see that its a skill that GCAs need also.

Cheers,

James
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tom MacWood on March 19, 2010, 06:57:15 AM
Christoph
Those are very interesting drawings. In Bob Cosby's essay he was very critical of JH Taylor because of his dislike of central hazards. Based on you drawing he must have gotten over that dislike later in his career. The von Limburger drawing reminds me a little bit of Simpson.


Hawtree fils wrote a piece saying once his father and Taylor hooked up it wasn't the famous name designing the courses!

Tony
Fred or Martin or both?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on March 19, 2010, 04:41:49 PM
Dobb's Ferry Links, from the Nov 24, 1895 edition of the NY Sun:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Nov24_1895_Sun.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 21, 2010, 01:17:24 PM
Melvyn Morrow sent me a series of additional drawings.  Rather than try to paraphrase the information in Melvyn's email, I have reprinted the substance of it below, although I will break it down into multiple replies since the attachments are too large for a single post:

Quote
Hi Ed

Thanks for the e-mail details. As I said I have a few sketches (more still filed away) from books, like The Golf Guide and others that have some sketch designs of golf course in GB & I. When I have time or come across more of them I will forward the drawings to you.

The list includes the following courses

Royal Aberdeen Golf Course – Moved to Balgownie Links in 1888 (book 1897)
Blairgowrie Gold Course at Lansdowne Estate  from 1889 (book 1895
Bournemouth Park Course (Book 1896)
Crawford Golf Course (book 1896)
Cumbrae Golf Course 1887 (book 1896)
Dunfermline Golf Course at Ferryhills 1894 (newspaper 1894)
King Edward Bay Golf Course at Howstrake Isle of Man 1893 (book 1896)
Kettering Golf Course 1891 (book 1895)
Lanark Golf Course  (book 1897)
Machrie Golf Course on Islay 1891 (book 1896)

(highlighted in red is closed)  
 
Some of the course are now closed i.e. Crawford; Killern; Uisguintuie, plus one or two of the others have also moved to new courses. I also enclose Lanark again being from The Golfers Guide rather than a newspaper and I attached a low resolution copy of Muirfield but it will still blows up to show Hall Blyth signature from December 1891.

Kind regards

Melvyn

Thanks to Melvyn for his contributions!  I may need some help with the index on these.

Ed


(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/AberdeenGCBalgownieLinks1897001_zps09c4206c.jpg)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/LansdowneGCBlairgowrieWeeCourse001_zps8a317d57.jpg)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/CrawfordGC_zps9e4c24f3.jpg)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/CrailCarnoustie2_zpscb896505.jpg)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/DunfermlineGolfCourse0001_edited_zpscae5257b.jpg)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Howstrake_zpsb91c5a4a.jpg)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/KetteringCourseMap-Copy_zpsb6f42124.jpg)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/LanarkGCin188514holesCourse_zpsff3b259e.jpg)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/MachrieGC21-05-189100011.jpg)


Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 21, 2010, 01:37:29 PM
Continuing on with the list of courses from Melvyn's email:

Quote
The list includes the following courses

Peterhead Golf Course at St Fergus Links (book 1897)
Selkirk Golf course (book 1896)
St Andrews New Course (newspaper 1895)
Uisguintuie Golf Course on Islay 1896 (newspaper 1896)

I also include Dornock not Dornoch near Tain but Dornock at Crieff  now closed.
(highlighted in red is closed)


(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/PeterheadGCStFergusLinks1896-7001_zpsd974cad0.jpg)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/SelkirkGCGolfersGuide1895-6_zps2f507a00.jpg)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/TheEveningTimes11041895StAndrewsNewCourse_edited_zpsafee727d.jpg)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/TheEveningTimesApril1896UisguintuieIslay_zps04256470.jpg)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/DornockGC28thJuly1894EvenTimes00012_zps7484c70d.jpg)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 21, 2010, 02:20:13 PM
And the final installment from Melvyn's list:

Quote
The list includes the following courses

Cruden Bay Golf Course 1894-1899 (book 1897)*
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/1897PortErrolcourseofCrudenBayGCPre.jpg?t=1269195272)

Killearn Golf Course 1896 (book 1896)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/KillernGolfCourse1.jpg?t=1269195353)

Muirfield Golf Course 1890 (from Muirfield and dated Dec 1891)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/MuirfieldGCMap18911.jpg?t=1269195405)

Newburgh Golf Course  (book 1897)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/NewburghGolfCubAberdeenshire1.jpg?t=1269195451)

Wellingborough Golf Course (book 1896)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/WboroughGolfCourse18961.jpg?t=1269195492)

(highlighted in red is closed)

The Cruden bay sketch is the initial one pre the requirement of St Olaf course which required a re design. There are reports that the course was built prior due to the changes but they are rather sketchy.
 
Some of the course are now closed i.e. Crawford; Killern; Uisguintuie, plus one or two of the others have also moved to new courses. I also enclose Lanark again being from The Golfers Guide rather than a newspaper and I attached a low resolution copy of Muirfield but it will still blows up to show Hall Blyth signature from December 1891.


Thanks Melvyn!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jeff Doerr on March 21, 2010, 06:54:48 PM
Just to add some levity to the thread - Here is a picture of a some routing work I did at a site in SD.  The wind was blowing so hard I gave up using the topo map.
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g142/farrisgolf/RoutingatSite-RONFARRIS-1.jpg)

Right Brain-Left Brain  - No Brain

Ron,

I love this one, thanks for posting it!

Most people can take the time to sit at a drawing board or computer and produce half decent drawings or plans, but the ability to sketch on site is in this computer age, a dying art I feel? As an architect of buildings rather than courses, I've had to sketch plans or details on unfinished walls, bits of timber, scraps of paper and the obligatory napkin, while on site, to get my ideas across. Good to see that its a skill that GCAs need also.

Cheers,

James

Agreed! Just very cool!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 22, 2010, 06:46:38 PM
Thanks to Niall Carlton for sending me this map of Forres Golf Club from 1894, which is provided courtesy and with permission of the Heritage Centre, Moray Council, Elgin...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/ForresGolfCourse1894.jpg?t=1269297341)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mike Cirba on March 22, 2010, 08:42:21 PM
Ed,

That drawing is of the 17th of Pinehurst #2, and appeared in an Walter Travis article in American Golfer.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Greg Ross on March 22, 2010, 09:47:40 PM
Ed,
I always claimed that 'Exile on Main St.' was the best album ever. That definition has faded a little, but it's definitely up there. This post/thread ranks right up there with 'Exile.' Thanks to you and all the contributors for making this happen.
Greg
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Chris Wirthwein on March 22, 2010, 10:28:58 PM
A couple of early ones from Pete Dye at Crooked Stick Golf Club, Carmel, Ind...

First is his original drawing for a par-71course (dated late 1963 or early 1964), which he used to solicit members (and funds) before ground was broken. Neither Pete nor Alice can recall who did this rendering.

Pete's name for the course at that time: "Muir of Golf" -- mimicking the name of James Braid's circa 1875 layout "Muir of Ord" (gold) northwest of Inverness in the Scottish Highlands. The course Pete and Alice eventually construct bears no resemblance to the drawing of the "never built" Muir of Golf...
(http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae155/5smokey/1-1-1.png)

Next, the real Crooked Stick (par-72),  in a drawing completed shortly after construction and seeding of the back nine (dated November 18, 1965). Due to a lack of funds (from slow real estate sales) construction of the front nine becomes delayed until spring of '66 and seeding is completed that fall. The entire 18 hole Crooked Stick Golf Club opens for play in late spring 1967. Again, the artist is unknown...
(http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae155/5smokey/image001-1.png)

More images at...www.crookedstickbook.com (http://www.crookedstickbook.com)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: David Lott on March 24, 2010, 10:52:45 PM
Fox Chapel found and restored the original Raynor course map a few years ago. I believe they donated it to USGA. Don't know if it ever got posted here but it should be.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on March 28, 2010, 08:52:23 AM
Baltusrol routing for the 1936 US Open (courtesy of the Chester Times):

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Baltusrol_1916USOpen_06031936_ChesterTimes.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tom MacWood on March 28, 2010, 09:54:28 AM
Joe
Your attachment says 1916, which I think is right. I believe that is the course pre-Tillinghast.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on March 28, 2010, 10:51:19 AM
Joe
Your attachment says 1916, which I think is right. I believe that is the course pre-Tillinghast.

Oops, that was a typo on my part.  But maybe you are correct and my typo was lucky!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Chris Shaida on March 28, 2010, 12:34:10 PM
Apropos of the above several posts re Baltustrol, here is a layout from the Febraury 9, 1915 Evening Telegram - New York

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_8c_fDmOpSoA/S6-Dgm11vtI/AAAAAAAAAEA/SIbR2k343BE/s640/baltustrol%201915%20feb%209%20the%20evening%20telegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Chris Shaida on March 28, 2010, 12:45:02 PM
Dobb's Ferry Links.

For the record (that is, for the index at the top of this thread) the layout posted earlier and labeled 'Dobbs Ferry Links"  is for the original 9 holes of what is now known as the Ardsley Country Club (or actually at the time 'The Ardsley Casino and Club").  This 9 was laid out by Willie Dunn.  He immediately laid out a second 9 the next year on ground just above the top of this picture (that is east of Broadway, the picture is oriented with East on top and Hudson River on the bottom).  This next 9 holes started with the new 8th hole and ran thru the new 16th.   What is shown on this routing as 8 and 9 became 17 and 18.

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 28, 2010, 12:56:07 PM
Joe
Your attachment says 1916, which I think is right. I believe that is the course pre-Tillinghast.

Oops, that was a typo on my part.  But maybe you are correct and my typo was lucky!

I am almost certain that Joe's original post is correct and the typo is in the name on the photo.  That routing is clearly of the Upper course, which hosted the 1936 US Open.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Chris Shaida on March 28, 2010, 01:02:34 PM
Ardsley CC 1915 (further to Joe Bausch's earlier post and my comment above).  Here is a routing for Ardsley from The Evening Telegram March 16, 1915.  This reflects a number of changes made by Willie Tucker to the original Willie Dunn routing.  Just to confuse things this particular routing is laid out with South at the top; the one Joe posted had East at the top.

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_8c_fDmOpSoA/S6-KbKnfvAI/AAAAAAAAAEI/9-56GESPrxU/s640/acc%201915%20March%2016%20evening%20telgram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Chris Shaida on March 28, 2010, 01:23:53 PM
NGLA 1915

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_8c_fDmOpSoA/S6-QYiu2yzI/AAAAAAAAAEU/elzoU64wZZw/s912/ngla%201915%20jan%2030%20evening%20telegram%20cropped.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Chris Shaida on March 28, 2010, 01:25:15 PM
Shinnecock 1915

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_8c_fDmOpSoA/S6-QY22nzHI/AAAAAAAAAEY/NKSHIhNkLSA/s576/shinecock%201915%20April%208%20evening%20telegram%20cropped.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Chris Shaida on March 28, 2010, 01:29:51 PM
Sleepy Hollow 1915

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_8c_fDmOpSoA/S6-QZeBVHWI/AAAAAAAAAEc/rZyDF3ynefw/s576/sleepy%201915%20feb%209%20evening%20telegram%20cropped.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Chris Shaida on March 28, 2010, 01:31:54 PM
Garden City 1915

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_8c_fDmOpSoA/S6-QYa7J-WI/AAAAAAAAAEQ/AZIPMX-uRAg/s576/garden%20city%201915%20feb%2016%20evening%20telegram%20cropped.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Chris Shaida on March 28, 2010, 01:37:43 PM
Piping Rock 1915

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_8c_fDmOpSoA/S6-Tuw_2nKI/AAAAAAAAAEw/GpYlfoxMNPQ/s720/1915%20piping%20rock%20feb%206%20evening%20telegram%20cropped.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 28, 2010, 02:02:51 PM
Thanks to ChrisW, Joe and ChrisS for their latest contributions.  I have updated the index as best I can.  And thanks to Greg and others for their kind comments both here and in PMs.

Ed
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Chris Shaida on March 28, 2010, 02:13:10 PM
Ed,thanks for taking the time to teach me how to post images!  I think I am finally getting the hang of it!

(also, just to clarify re post 126 and 142: they both should really be indexed under Ardsley.  There never was a 'Dobbs Ferry Links' (that is, other than on the caption on that newspaper clipping).  In 1895 those 9 holes were built as part of the "Ardsley Casino and Club', the property for which was located in the towns of Dobbs Ferry and Irvington. Just after the turn of the century the club's name was officially changed from 'Ardsley Casino and Club' to the 'Ardsley Country Club'.  But no such entity as 'Dobbs Ferry Links' ever existed.)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 28, 2010, 02:48:08 PM
Chris, I have made the correction.  Thanks!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 28, 2010, 11:48:08 PM
Chris Buie sent me a couple of larger images of the 1922 Pinehurst map shown in reply #107.  This one shows all of #2 at it existed then...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Pinehurst2-1.jpg?t=1269834208)

...and here is the entire map of courses #1 through #4...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Pinehurst2.jpg?t=1269834390)

Thanks Chris!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tom MacWood on March 29, 2010, 05:59:07 AM
Chris
Those are fascinating drawings. It appears to be a series of articles, do you know how the author chose those particular courses?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tony_Muldoon on March 29, 2010, 03:44:08 PM
Christoph
Those are very interesting drawings. In Bob Cosby's essay he was very critical of JH Taylor because of his dislike of central hazards. Based on you drawing he must have gotten over that dislike later in his career. The von Limburger drawing reminds me a little bit of Simpson.


Hawtree fils wrote a piece saying once his father and Taylor hooked up it wasn't the famous name designing the courses!

Tony
Fred or Martin or both?


Fred, page 13.
http://www.britgolfcollectors.wyenet.co.uk/TTG%20Scanned%20to%20Dec%202008/27%201993December.pdf



Ed this is an amazing thread and I hope people with better memories than mine will refer us back to it when these courses come up in their own threads.  Congratulations this thread has put GCA back playing to its strength , course history.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Chris Shaida on March 29, 2010, 11:14:32 PM
Chris
Those are fascinating drawings. It appears to be a series of articles, do you know how the author chose those particular courses?

Tom, they are all from 'The Evening Telegram - New York' a daily paper that was published between the 1860s and the 1920s (I think it was later merged with the New York World and continued operating for a while).  They ran a series called 'Where New York Plays Golf' that ran between January and April of 1915.  They profiled 20 or so courses. I haven't found a rationale for the series other than the obvious one of these were the courses that were in existence in 1915?  I was hoping to find that they continued the series past 1915 (we were particularly hoping for a contemporaneous layout in 1920 or 1921 for Ardsley) but this is apparently a one-off series (not absolutely confirmed).  Maybe the war got in the way?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 30, 2010, 11:03:19 PM
I'm finally getting around to posting a few other drawings I have found in various threads.  First up is Dismal River, courtesy of Scott Burroughs here... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,22034.0/

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/foodstat/Miscellaneous%20GCA/dismalriverrouting.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 30, 2010, 11:09:35 PM
A pair of 1901 maps of Midlothian Country Club, courtesy of Dan Moore and Sean Tully in this thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,41938.msg892849/

(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/troonster/Midlothian/MidlothianGreenbookcr.jpg)

(http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=41938.0;attach=3205;image)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 30, 2010, 11:22:48 PM
Chiberta Golf Club, courtesy of of Tom MacWood and Golf Club de Fourqueux Marly, courtest of Christoph Meister, both from this thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,41955.msg893184/

(http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=41955.0;attach=3215;image)

(http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=41955.0;attach=3309;image)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 30, 2010, 11:30:15 PM
And, finally, the Pine Valley map previously posted in Reply #91 without the red/blue overlay, courtesy of Tom MacWood here... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,43341.245/
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 30, 2010, 11:48:23 PM
Oops, forgot one.  Here is Wolf Point, courtesy of Mike Nuzzo in this thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,37328.0/

(http://www.mnuzzo.com/WPC/album/medium/1.001%20Routing-As-Built-002.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on April 06, 2010, 12:04:46 AM
I think we need a representative from the backyard design category.  Here is Brett Morrissy's Sunnyside Downs from this thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,43795.msg950489/

(http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43795.0;attach=4942;image)

(http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43795.0;attach=4944;image)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Brian Phillips on April 06, 2010, 04:50:07 AM
And, finally, the Pine Valley map previously posted in Reply #91 without the red/blue overlay, courtesy of Tom MacWood here... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,43341.245/

I actually saved this one and adjusted the contrast/brightness so it can, hopefully, be seen a little better:


Ed,

I have really enjoyed this thread and thanks for doing it.

The image that Tom Macwood has posted is not his and it is owned by Pine Valley (and a few private others) and should not be posted here.  I am not sure where he has got it from but it should not be posted on here without the permission of those that have ownership of the image.

Just thought I would let you know.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Niall C on April 06, 2010, 08:18:49 AM
Ed

I'd echo Brian's comments, great thread but we should be careful about copyright/permission. With that in mind the plan of Forres in post 131 which you kindly put up, it should be noted that it has been provided courtesy and with permission of the Heritage Centre, Moray Council, Elgin.

Niall
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on April 06, 2010, 08:38:16 AM
Thanks Brian and Niall!  All of the images I have posted on this thread are either already on another thread on this site or were sent to me by other members of this site to post for them.  I don't know where those images originated or if there is a problem.  So if folks will let me know if they see any issues I am happy to make any necessary adjustments.  I have taken down the Pine Valley image but left the link to the other thread where Tom MacWood originally posted it.  Only Tom or the moderators can adjust/delete that image.  I have also revised the Forres reference.  Please let me know if anyone spots anything else.

Ed
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 10, 2010, 07:43:03 AM
Following the lead from Chris S, St. Andrews (NY) in 1915:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Feb13_1915_NYEveningTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 10, 2010, 07:49:22 AM
Siwanoy, 1915, Evening Telegram.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Feb20_1915_NYEveningTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 10, 2010, 07:57:33 AM
Oakland, 1915 Evening Telegram:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Oakland_1915_NYEveningTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 10, 2010, 08:31:47 AM
Englewood, 1915 Evening Telegram:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Englewood_1915_NYEveningTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 10, 2010, 09:21:47 AM
Wykagyl, 1915 Evening Telegram:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Wykagyl_1915_NYEveningTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on April 10, 2010, 10:01:52 AM
Thanks Joe!  I have updated the index.

FYI, I was fooling around one day last year looking for info on Englewood and found this recent article... http://www.nj.com/golf/index.ssf/2009/06/englewood_golf_club_once_a_pie.html

Ed
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 10, 2010, 06:52:41 PM
Apawamis, 1915 Evening Telegram:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Apawamis_1915_NYEveningTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 10, 2010, 06:57:37 PM
Dunwoodie, 1915 Evening Telegram:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Dunwoodie_1915_NYEveningTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 10, 2010, 08:07:16 PM
Upper Montclair, 1915 Evening Telegram:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/UpperMontclair_1915_NYEveningTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 10, 2010, 08:12:06 PM
Ardsley, 1915 Evening Telegram:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Ardsley_1915_NYEveningTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 10, 2010, 08:16:04 PM
Wheatley Hills, 1915 Evening Telegram:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/WheatleyHills_1915_NYEveningTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 10, 2010, 08:26:48 PM
Glen Ridge, 1915 Evening Telegram:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/GlenRidge_1915_NYEveningTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 10, 2010, 08:30:46 PM
Fox Hills, 1915 Evening Telegram:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/FoxHills_1915_NYEveningTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 10, 2010, 08:39:18 PM
Scarsdale, 1915 Evening Telegram:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Scarsdale_1915_NYEveningTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 10, 2010, 08:43:07 PM
Forest Hills, 1915 Evening Telegram:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/ForestHills_1915_NYEveningTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 10, 2010, 08:48:01 PM
Morris County, 1915 Evening Telegram:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/MorrisCounty_1915_NYEveningTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 10, 2010, 08:50:53 PM
Montclair, 1915 Evening Telegram:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Montclair_1915_NYEveningTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 10, 2010, 09:21:38 PM
Great Neck, 1915 Evening Telegram:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/GreatNeck_1915_NYEveningTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 10, 2010, 09:25:03 PM
Nassau, 1915 Evening Telegram:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Nassau_1915_NYEveningTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 10, 2010, 09:28:45 PM
Greenwich, 1915.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Greenwich_1915_NYEveningTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 10, 2010, 09:32:29 PM
Ridgewood, 1915 Evening Telegram:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Ridgewood_1915_NYEveningTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on April 10, 2010, 11:16:49 PM
Thanks Joe!  The index has been updated.  That is an impressive series of articles.  Any idea who the author was?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mike Cirba on April 11, 2010, 03:27:54 AM
Did anyone read what was written about the course at Glen Ridge??

The history of the course is vague at best, but the article claims the holes in question were the second oldest in the country after St. Andrews.

Who designed them??
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 11, 2010, 05:57:34 AM
Thanks Joe!  The index has been updated.  That is an impressive series of articles.  Any idea who the author was?

No author is given on this series of articles.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 11, 2010, 07:06:38 AM
Lido, 1916 Brooklyn Daily Eagle:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Lido_1916_BrooklynNYDailyEagle.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 11, 2010, 12:30:30 PM
Merion East, 1930 Brooklyn Daily Eagle:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/course_Sept21_1930_NYDaily%20Eagle.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 12, 2010, 01:42:02 PM
Garden City, 1896 NY Sun.  The original nine holes by Alexander Findlay.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/GardenCity_1896_NYSun.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mike Cirba on April 12, 2010, 02:42:13 PM
Joe,

Is that the same location as today's GCGC?   Did this become Emmett's Island Golf Links?

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 12, 2010, 03:09:20 PM
Joe,

Is that the same location as today's GCGC?   Did this become Emmett's Island Golf Links?


I'm not 100% certain yet, but I believe the answer to both of your questions is 'yes'.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mike Cirba on April 12, 2010, 03:42:22 PM
Joe,

It sure looks like the area around today's 1st , 2nd, and 18th holes.

So, our boy Findlay taught Emmett and Travis everything they knew?  ;)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ian Andrew on April 12, 2010, 05:34:13 PM
Merion East, 1930.

That is definately the Tommey and Flynn drawing of Merion used in the article.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 13, 2010, 04:34:16 PM
Lousy quality, I know. 

ANGC, 1932 Rochester Democrat:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/ANGCdiagram_Feb7_1932_RochesterDemocrat.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 13, 2010, 10:14:17 PM
Laurence Harbor CC, 1898 Brooklyn Daily Eagle.  I believe this is the course where Harry Vardon made his US debut on Feb 12, 1900.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Dec23_1898_NYDailyEagle.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on April 13, 2010, 10:30:48 PM
Thanks Joe!  FYI, while searching for info on Lawrence Harbor CC so I could update the index, I found these two NY Times articles:

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9903E0D61239E733A25750C1A9649C946197D6CF

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9400E6DA103BE631A25750C2A9629C94689ED7CF
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on April 13, 2010, 10:39:52 PM
Thanks to Neil Crafter for allowing me to add his images of the newly discovered Mackenzie plan for Bristol & Clifton.

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/BristolCliftonMacPlan.jpg)

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/BristolCliftonMacPlanleft.jpg)

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/BristolCliftonMacPlanright.jpg)

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/BristolCliftonMacPlandetail.jpg)

Neil originally posted the plan on this current thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,43932.0/
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 15, 2010, 05:35:04 AM
Meadow Brook, 1897 Brooklyn Daily Eagle:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Sept30_1897_NYDailyEagle.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 15, 2010, 08:17:16 AM
Country Club of Detroit, August 29, 1915 (NY Sun).

(http://i51.tinypic.com/2pqvms7.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 16, 2010, 04:45:26 PM
Shinnecock, 1895, New York Daily Eagle":


(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Shinnecock_Aug26_1895_DailyEagle.png)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on April 16, 2010, 07:50:31 PM
Thanks as always Joe!  The diagram in your last post makes for an interesting comparison against the Shinnecock drawing from the same year in reply #78.

Ed
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on April 16, 2010, 08:10:42 PM
This beautiful drawing of Rokuro Akaboshi's original routing for Kawana's Fuji Course (which I understand was passed over for the Alison routing that was eventually constructed) comes from Rob Miller's current thread here... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,43954.0/

(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae275/koyoen/Kawana%20Fuji/FujiAkaboshi.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: GBoring on April 18, 2010, 09:34:57 PM
CC of Scranton Walter Travis's Original Routing
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 20, 2010, 05:52:52 AM
Inverness, 1920:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Inverness_coursediagram_1920.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Cristian on April 20, 2010, 06:26:33 AM
Not as ancient as some of the others on here, but I like them as they are hand drawn and they are of my home course GC de Haar (9 holes) in Holland, designed in 1974 by Frank Pennink. (Most of the greens were considerably changed in the early '90's).

(http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af316/cristianwillaert/De%20Haar/dehaar1fp.jpg)

(http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af316/cristianwillaert/De%20Haar/dehaar2fp.jpg)

(http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af316/cristianwillaert/De%20Haar/dehaar3fp.jpg)

(http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af316/cristianwillaert/De%20Haar/dehaar4bfp.jpg)

(http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af316/cristianwillaert/De%20Haar/dehaar5fp.jpg)

(http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af316/cristianwillaert/De%20Haar/dehaar6bfp.jpg)

(http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af316/cristianwillaert/De%20Haar/dehaar7fp.jpg)

(http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af316/cristianwillaert/De%20Haar/dehaar8fp.jpg)

(http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af316/cristianwillaert/De%20Haar/dehaar9fp.jpg)
















Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mike Cirba on April 20, 2010, 06:40:51 AM
Does anyone know where the original Ridgewood CC was located in comparison to today's course or who designed it?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on April 20, 2010, 06:53:12 PM
Thanks Greg, Joe and Cristian for your latest contributions!  I have updated the index.  Let me know if I've made any errors.

Ed
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 22, 2010, 01:40:10 PM
Oakmont, 1953 Binghamton Press:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/June7_1953_BinghamtonPress.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 23, 2010, 09:57:45 AM
St. Louis CC, 1921.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Sept18_1921_PhilaRecord.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: TEPaul on April 23, 2010, 12:14:49 PM
By the way, I should mention regarding the original Travis diagram of Scranton GC (Post #204) that from the high clubhouse that is not shown but sits in the open space at the bottom of that diagram and looks straight west (over the course to the top of the diagram) offers some of the broadest and most magnificent sunsets I have ever seen on an inland site. And now that a number of trees have been removed it is even better!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 24, 2010, 07:54:14 AM
St. Albans (NY), 1915 Brooklyn Daily Eagle:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/StAlbans_1915_DailyEagle.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: TEPaul on April 24, 2010, 08:11:54 AM
By the way, I was speaking with Phil Young and Joe Bausch about this the other day but can you imagine how some of those diagrams and drawings particularly the very old ones got into the newspapers if they were from the clubs etc? If they weren't it would seem someone from the newspaper must have drawn them.

Is there anyone on here who knows much about the history of newspaper and magazine printing processes about a century ago and back?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Niall C on April 24, 2010, 08:25:17 AM
Tom

I'm no expert but I have now seen enough old newspaper copy to last a life time. Round about the turn of the century most of the regional papers at least didn't have the technology to include photos, so they would include a sketch of the photo if that makes sense. The reason I know this is that they would often state that the sketch was from a photo. In this regard I have also seen course layouts, which are clearly a skecth of a plan like the ones Joe posts and the ones Ed kindly posted for me. Again on occasion I have seen newspaper crediting the person who prepared the plan from which the sketch was taken from.

So I'm guessing that the newspaper had inhouse sketch artists who would quickly knock up a representation of a plan or photo or whatever was required.

The question is how did the plans come about in the first place, were they plans prepared pre-construction or done after the event ? I've no doubt that there would be a bit of both but strongly suspect that in most cases it would be the latter, the plans were made after the course was built which is why you have to be very careful crediting some unknown on the basis of his name being on the bottom of a plan, particularly if that person happened to be a surveyor or engineer, the type of person who would be commisioned to prepare a plan. Again, I say that because I have seen reference to plans being prepared after the event.

The next question is why were the plans prepared in the first place and the answer to that I think is to satisfy peoples interest and as a crude form of advertising.

Niall
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on April 24, 2010, 09:52:53 AM
Here is a routing for Dalat Palace Golf Club in Vietnam from the 1931 "Guide de Golfs du Continents" publ. by. Editions Plumon in Paris, France, courtesy of Christoph Meister in this thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,43730.msg957688/

(http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43730.0;attach=5197;image)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: TEPaul on April 24, 2010, 09:56:23 AM
Niall:

I think all you said in Post #214 is both very logical and historically accurate. Thanks.

We do need to consider those kinds of things these days when we tend to forget they did not have anything like our current technologies back then.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on April 24, 2010, 10:17:28 AM
Niall -

Most of the early stick drawings I've seen were prepared after the fact, usually by the club for its own, internal club bulletins or annual reports. Those schematic drawings were then copied for use in newspaper articles. (I can't imagine a newspaperman spending the time to do his own drawings from scratch.) There are no doubt exceptions, but I'd guess that was the usual procedure. In many cases they were, literally, the only drawings done of the course over those early years.  

I'd also guess that many of the early stick drawings were not very accurate. Bunkers aren't shown, hole lengths are out of wack, etc. But that wasn't the point. They were done simply to give an overall sense of the routing of the course. They were not intended as construction drawings or as drawings submitted as part of a bid for a commission.

They are fascinating nonetheless.

Bob    
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 25, 2010, 07:48:16 AM
Fresh Meadow, 1930 Brooklyn Daily Eagle:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/diagram_Aug24_1930_DailyEagle.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 26, 2010, 02:34:43 PM
Hackensack, 1915.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Hackensack_May1_1915_EveningTelegram.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 26, 2010, 02:39:00 PM
Haworth, 1915.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Haworth_May4_1915_EveningTelegram.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 26, 2010, 02:47:51 PM
Van Cortlandt, 1915.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/VanCortlandt_May8_1915_EveningTelegram.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 26, 2010, 02:52:39 PM
Lakewood, 1915.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Lakewood_May11_1915_EveningTelegram.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Brian Freeman on April 26, 2010, 02:56:30 PM
Love 10 & 11 - back to back par 3s under 150 yds on the other side of the road from the rest of the course.  Now that's quirk!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 26, 2010, 03:00:33 PM
North Jersey CC, 1915.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/NorthJerseyCC_May15_1915_EveningTelegram.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 26, 2010, 03:04:54 PM
Inwood, 1915.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Inwood_May18_1915_EveningTelegram.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 26, 2010, 03:09:10 PM
Pelham Bay, 1915.

(http://xchem.villanova.edu/~bausch/images/misc/PelhamBay_1915_EveningTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 26, 2010, 03:12:15 PM
Cranford, 1915 (now Echo Lake, I believe).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Cranford_May29_1915_EveningTelegram.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on April 26, 2010, 08:52:31 PM
Joe, thanks for your continued contributions.  You are on a one man mission to keep this thread alive! 
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 02, 2010, 05:28:31 AM
North Hills (1917) from the Public Ledger.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Aug29_1917_PublicLedger.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Chris Shaida on May 02, 2010, 06:45:38 AM
For the archive, here is the full 18 at Ardsley from 1897.  This adds to posts 126, 142, and 173.  The 9 shown in post 126 are the same holes as 1-7 and then 8=17 and 9=18.

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/r1QvdBJBIrcS2XzeWlBZaG8bkNk7_kfi0vaG2bFUN0q40IZsebfWMmpPZe3n366iR3PJdfPOx8RfeDgeom5oLu8uvg=s512)

and for added measure here is a picture of Willie Dunn laying out the second nine.  We're not certain but think he is standing somewhere along the 16th hole (before the hole was finished of course) in the above layout.

(http://docs.google.com/File?id=dgpv4ss_284gx79v5f5_b)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 06, 2010, 12:28:18 PM
Wheatley Hills (Jan 10, 1932; Daily Eagle).

(http://i47.tinypic.com/9kzabp.jpg)


Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 06, 2010, 12:38:02 PM
Dyker Beach (1931) Brooklyn Daily Eagle:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Apr26_1931_DailyEagle_diagram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 06, 2010, 05:06:41 PM
Split Rock and Pelham Bay (1934) Brooklyn Daily Eagle:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Oct14_1934_DailyEagle_diagram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 06, 2010, 05:20:44 PM
Fresh Meadow (1932) Brooklyn Daily Eagle:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/June19_1932_DailyEagle_diag.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on May 07, 2010, 09:41:13 PM
Thanks as always Joe!

FYI to anyone still following this thread, the Index exceeds the number of characters allowed in a single post.  So I split the Index, with A to L in my initial post and M to Z now moved to Reply #1.

Ed
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 12, 2010, 01:13:32 PM
NGLA, 1907 Daily Eagle:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Aug26_1907_DailyEagle_diagram.jpg)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on May 12, 2010, 08:38:34 PM
Pat Mucci was kind enough to send me Ross' 1929 plan for Mountain Ridge...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/MountainRidge1929DonaldRossSchemati.jpg?t=1273710778)

Thanks Pat!

Ed
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 14, 2010, 09:53:05 AM
Nassau CC (1924, after Strong's work) Brooklyn Daily Eagle:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Apr18_1924_DailyEagle_diagram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 14, 2010, 10:12:57 AM
Roscoe Conkling Park (1916, Utica, New York).  A Walter Travis design.  I'm not sure if or how much of this course got on the ground.  I'm assuming somebody here can expand upon this.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Sept3_1916_UticaSundayTribune_diagram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 14, 2010, 08:27:32 PM
Marine and Field Club (1918) Brooklyn Daily Eagle:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Sept15_1918_DailyEagle_diagram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 14, 2010, 08:46:46 PM
Valley View (New York, 1938, Robert T. Jones) Utica Daily Press:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Feb10_1938_UticaDailyPress_diagram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on May 15, 2010, 12:00:51 AM
Thanks Joe!  Where is the Marine and Field Club?

Ed
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 15, 2010, 02:03:01 AM
Thanks Joe!  Where is the Marine and Field Club?

Ed

I believe it was at Sheepshead Bay, Long Island.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mike Cirba on May 16, 2010, 12:30:50 AM
That particular site of the Marine and Field Club, if memory serves, combined with the Dyker Meadow Club, and parts of both original courses today occupy land used by the Dyker Beach Golf course, a NYC Muni of particular character.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 17, 2010, 04:11:29 AM
Cleveland Country Club, 1935 (site of 1935 National Amateur; Flynn) Brooklyn Daily Eagle:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Sept1_1935_DailyEagle_diagram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 17, 2010, 03:42:53 PM
More changes at the Marine and Field Club (1921) Brooklyn Daily Eagle:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Mar27_1921_DailyEagle_diagram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 17, 2010, 03:55:43 PM
Wannamoisett (1931) Daily Eagle:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Sept13_1931_DailyEagle_diagram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 17, 2010, 09:07:50 PM
Changes at Dyker Beach (1929) Daily Eagle:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Apr1_1929_DailyEagle_diagram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tom MacWood on May 17, 2010, 10:24:17 PM
Inverness 1907
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tom MacWood on May 17, 2010, 10:26:40 PM
Nassau CC (1924, after Strong's work).


Joe
Was there an article that accompanied this map?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: john_stiles on May 18, 2010, 11:53:33 PM
The development plan for Fairyland Golf Club is shown below.    Raynor's plan is shown fairly accurately on this figure.  Clubhouse is shown in a different location than Raynor's plan.  Clubhouse was actually built along planned fairway for 17th hole, a par 5.  This hole became a par 4 and with new clubhouse, the hole planned to be the 17th became the first hole.  

They were to build a lodge for the golf club,  the Crest Lodge.    The Fairyland Inn (now Fairyland Club) had been built by the time of course construction.  The Crest Lodge was never built.   The name is pronounced  'Fair-land' Club despite the many fairy like street names in the neighborhood.   The story is that when Mr. Jack Lupton visited a club up north, he wore a golf shirt with the club name.   Someone remarked about,  oh you have a club by that name or something like that.   Being club president,  the course name was soon changed to Lookout Mountain Golf Club.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/jstiles/Fairyland_Club_LMGC_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 19, 2010, 03:34:52 PM
Placemat used at North Shore:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/NorthShore_Placemat_800.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on May 23, 2010, 12:14:22 PM
Thanks to Sean Tully for allowing me to import the 1929 National Greenkeeper Pebble Beach images from his thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,44346.0/

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/PB1929.jpg)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/PB19291.jpg)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/PB19292.jpg)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/PB19293.jpg)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/PB19294.jpg)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/PB19295.jpg)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/PB19296.jpg)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/PB19297.jpg)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/PB19298.jpg)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/PB19299.jpg)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/PB192910.jpg)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/PB192911.jpg)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/PB192912.jpg)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/PB192913.jpg)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/PB192914.jpg)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/PB192915.jpg)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/PB192916.jpg)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/PB192917.jpg)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/1fescue/PB192918.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 24, 2010, 02:24:10 PM
Engineers (June 1918) Daily Eagle:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/June30_1918_DailyEagle_diagram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on June 02, 2010, 05:18:23 AM
St. Andrews (1934 Walker Cup; May 10, 1934 Brooklyn Daily Eagle).

(http://i47.tinypic.com/uc003.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on June 03, 2010, 09:49:07 PM
Thanks Joe!  I like that the road hole is shown with both 2 shot and 3 shot alternatives.  It continued to play as a par 5 for another 30 years.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: john_stiles on June 06, 2010, 06:24:42 PM
Thanks for the Pebble Beach sketches.

Below is a sketch of  Palmetto Golf Club circa 1931, before the conversion from sand to grass greens.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/jstiles/Palmetto_GC_1931_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on June 07, 2010, 12:06:07 AM
Thanks John!  Its amazing how much unused land appears on that drawing.  I've always thought of Palmetto as a masterpiece in economy of space.  Looks like they actually had more room to maneuver than I would have expected.

Ed
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bill_McBride on June 07, 2010, 04:49:51 PM
Thanks John!  Its amazing how much unused land appears on that drawing.  I've always thought of Palmetto as a masterpiece in economy of space.  Looks like they actually had more room to maneuver than I would have expected.

Ed

It's interesting how #12 looks so straight, I recall a pretty pronounced dogleg.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on June 07, 2010, 10:52:00 PM
Many thanks to Rory Connaughton for sending me Flynn's plan for Lancaster Country Club...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/LancasterRoutingSmall-1.jpg?t=1275965209)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Greg McMullin on June 08, 2010, 04:24:36 PM
Cape Breton Highlands Links. Stanley Thompson plan circa 1936-37. Aerial photo is from 1936.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4033/4683325752_fc04894002_b.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/4683325940_1120f0a6f4_b.jpg)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on July 11, 2010, 09:20:57 AM
Sharp Park, courtesy of Tom MacWood in this friendly chat amongst pals ... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,43689.msg983794/

(http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43689.0;attach=7122;image)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on July 21, 2010, 09:05:20 PM
Circa 1907 plan for Salisbury Links (now known as Cherry Valley Club) in Garden City, NY, courtesy of Tom MacWood in this thread...http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,43689.525/

(http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43689.0;attach=7353;image)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on July 21, 2010, 09:08:57 PM
...and Ridgewood Golf Course in Cleveland, courtesy of Tom MacWood in the same thread.

(http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43689.0;attach=7374;image)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on July 21, 2010, 09:13:41 PM
...and, again from Tom MacWood earlier in that same thread, Flynn's drawing for the 6th hole at Opa-Locka.

(http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43689.0;attach=7328;image)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Brian Freeman on July 23, 2010, 08:17:03 PM
Royal Dornoch, 1906 (Hanging in the upstairs grill).  Prior to the addition of the current #7-11 and the current par 3 13th.  Immediately thought of this thread when I saw it.

(http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad353/bgfreeman/IMG_0533-Copy.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on July 23, 2010, 09:56:04 PM
Thanks Brian.  I have updated the index.

And here is Tillinghast's plan for Ridgewood Country Club ...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/RidgewoodTillinghastPlan.jpg?t=1279936331)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on August 04, 2010, 07:59:07 PM
Fountainbleau, from Bart Bradley's course review... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,45366.0/

(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff197/mbbradley/France210.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on August 23, 2010, 08:17:18 AM
Hoylake (May 22, 1921 Brooklyn Daily Eagle).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/May22_1921_DailyEagle.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on August 23, 2010, 08:18:21 AM
Columbia CC (July 17, 1921 Brooklyn Daily Eagle)

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/July17_1921_DailyEagle.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on August 23, 2010, 08:19:23 AM
Oakmont (August 10, 1919 Brooklyn Daily Eagle)

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Aug10_1919_DailyEagle.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on August 23, 2010, 03:00:50 PM
Thanks Joe! 

Stupid question of the day:  With respect to the Hoylake diagram, what exactly are "rushes"?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on August 23, 2010, 03:53:45 PM
Thanks Joe! 

Stupid question of the day:  With respect to the Hoylake diagram, what exactly are "rushes"?

This could be stupid answer of the day, b/c I'm just taking a guess that they are plants in this family:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juncaceae
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mike Cirba on August 23, 2010, 10:04:39 PM
Does anyone know if the greens at Oakmont were squared-off at that time?

That is too cool of a drawing.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on August 26, 2010, 01:05:16 PM
Still more changes at the Marine and Field Club (1922).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Jun18_1922_DailyEagle.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on August 26, 2010, 01:09:18 PM
Royal St. George's Golf Club (1922).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Jun18_1922_DailyEagle_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on September 06, 2010, 10:12:07 PM
Tillinghast's water color sketch of San Francisco Golf Club, courtesy of Rick Wolffe in this thread...http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,41978.0/

(http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad55/till5farm/SF1.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Melvyn Morrow on September 07, 2010, 10:45:22 AM

Royal St George again from 1922 Re The Open Course noting the location of sea and First Tee, which seems mising from Joe's sketch.

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p421/Melvyn_Hunter/RoyalStGeorgesGC1922.jpg)

Melvyn
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Scott Warren on September 07, 2010, 10:57:16 AM
Brian Freeman,

The Dornoch map is brilliant. Can those in the know confirm/clarify for me what I am seeing?

Then>Now
1-5 > 1-5
6 > 6 tee to 11 green
7 > 12
8-12 > 14-18
13 > Struie 1
14 > gone
15 > Struie 4
16-17 > Struie 17-18
18 > Struie 18 green to the practice green

(http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad353/bgfreeman/IMG_0533-Copy.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Melvyn Morrow on September 07, 2010, 11:49:34 AM

Scott

Something to read re your map of Dornoch circa 1906, Looks like the map may be the extension discussed in the article although they may have stretched it from 5960 to over 6,000yards.

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p421/Melvyn_Hunter/TheScotsmanArchives31051904RoyalDornochGCAlterationstoCourseP1.jpg)

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p421/Melvyn_Hunter/TheScotsmanArchives31051904RoyalDornochGCAlterationstoCourseP2.jpg)


Melvyn

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bill_McBride on September 07, 2010, 01:12:29 PM
So the current 7th and 8th lie along the old railway line up on the high ground, with the 8th green and entire 9th and 10th holes being added in later years?  Interesting.......
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: James Boon on September 07, 2010, 04:57:53 PM
Brian Freeman,

The Dornoch map is brilliant. Can those in the know confirm/clarify for me what I am seeing?

Then>Now
1-5 > 1-5
6 > 6 tee to 11 green
7 > 12
8-12 > 14-18
13 > Struie 1
14 > gone
15 > Struie 4
16-17 > Struie 17-18
18 > Struie 18 green to the practice green

(http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad353/bgfreeman/IMG_0533-Copy.jpg)

Scott,

From my reading of the plan, the clubs history and discussions with Rich Goodale earlier this year while up there, yes I believe you've got that right?

Cheers,

James
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Scott Warren on September 08, 2010, 02:07:28 AM
I'm told I missed the fact that in that pic, 1 and 2 are both 250-yard holes (I couldn't read the yardages when I had a crack at the above). Which reminds me that as we played 1 in May that Rich pointed out the old 2nd tee over by the fence short of the 1st green.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on September 09, 2010, 03:37:17 PM
Sargowana (from the Dec 10, 1916 Brooklyn Daily Eagle).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Dec10_1916_DailyEagle_routing.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on September 12, 2010, 06:21:48 AM
Prestwick (May 24, 1899 New York Sun):

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/May24_1899_NYSun.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on September 22, 2010, 04:26:51 PM
I don't know if this was a joke or not!  This from the August 26, 1916 edition of the Evening Public Ledger.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Aug26_1916_EPL.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on October 18, 2010, 11:12:40 PM
Here is the complete 1926 Cypress Point drawing courtesy of Neil Crafter in this thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,46216.0/

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/CypressPointoverallplan1926.jpg)

Neil had previously posted an excerpt in reply #12.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bill_McBride on October 19, 2010, 10:50:26 AM
Ed, that routing is a lot different than what was actually built and exists today.

Examples:  #6 and #13 both appear to be par 3s.  #8 is almost straight versus the dogleg around/over the dune today.

The 18th tee is in the ocean!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Phil_the_Author on October 19, 2010, 09:40:17 PM
The only known rendering of the Caldeno Golf Club built by CC Worthington. Note that there are only 6 holes shown. No date is given and this is very early on...

http://(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo90/PhiltheAuthor/Caldeno_Map.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Brian Freeman on October 24, 2010, 10:39:27 AM
I'm told I missed the fact that in that pic, 1 and 2 are both 250-yard holes (I couldn't read the yardages when I had a crack at the above). Which reminds me that as we played 1 in May that Rich pointed out the old 2nd tee over by the fence short of the 1st green.

Scott: I believe your assessment is correct - although we never played the Struie so I cannot vouch for those holes.  Maybe next time.  I did not pick up on the fact previously that 6 played to the current #11 green vs. the current green.

The original #2 was indeed 255 yards.  I certainly would not have wanted to be putting on #1 green while someone was driving off #2 with a early 1900's era driver!  Thinking about that hole, with the severity of the green complex, as designed for a risk-reward tee shot or a 200 yard shot and a pitch adds even more to the hole in my mind.  But for practical reasons the conversion to a par 3 was probably the correct move, and still one of my favorite holes in Scotland.

I regret that I did not take the opportunity to walk over to the old tee and hit a shot or two when I was there.

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on October 29, 2010, 09:11:31 PM
Three iterations of Mackenzie's Augusta National plans courtesy of Neil Crafter in this thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,46255.0/

June 1932 - Reproduced in Tom Doak et al's "The Life and Times of Alister Mackenzie":
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/ANGCJune1932planBW.jpg)

July 1931 - From David Owen's "The Making of the Masters":
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/ANGCcolouredplannodate.jpg)

November 1931 - From augusta.com website:
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/ANGC1931plansigned.jpg)

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/ANGC19holeplan.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on October 29, 2010, 11:43:15 PM
Harry Colt's hole notes and sketches of Old Elm, courtesy of Dave Schmidt in this thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,45684.0/

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/HarryColtDesignSketches-OldElmClubApril271913_1.jpg?t=1282825793)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Colt-OldElm1.jpg?t=1282825832)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Colt-OldElm2.jpg?t=1282825866)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Colt-OldElm3.jpg?t=1282825907)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Colt-OldElm4.jpg?t=1282825940)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Colt-OldElm5.jpg?t=1282825969)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Colt-OldElm6.jpg?t=1282826001)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Colt-OldElm7.jpg?t=1282826049)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Colt-OldElm8.jpg?t=1282826083)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Colt-OldElm9.jpg?t=1282826115)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Colt-OldElm10.jpg?t=1282826160)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Colt-OldElm11.jpg?t=1282826203)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Colt-OldElm12.jpg?t=1282826235)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Colt-OldElm13.jpg?t=1282826271)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Colt-OldElm14.jpg?t=1282826309)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Colt-OldElm15.jpg?t=1282826338)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Colt-OldElm16.jpg?t=1282826369)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Colt-OldElm17.jpg?t=1282826399)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Colt-OldElm18.jpg?t=1282826428)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Alfonso Erhardt on October 30, 2010, 04:27:37 PM
Some of Javier Arana's drawings:

Original plan of Neguri

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/alfonsoey/Arana/0001Nu3.jpg)

Par 3 course near Barcelona

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/alfonsoey/Arana/0001yk2.jpg)

Real Club de Golf de la Cerdaña (with Tom Simpson's comments)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/alfonsoey/Arana/0001pt2.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/alfonsoey/Arana/0001gr2.jpg)

Golf de la Molina

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/alfonsoey/Arana/0001wR2.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on October 30, 2010, 08:48:49 PM
Thanks Alfonso, those are fantastic drawings!

Chris Buie has contributed this map from his outstanding Overhills thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,46197.0/

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Overhills.jpg?t=1288483278)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tom MacWood on October 31, 2010, 11:01:16 AM
Here is a link to the USGA architectural archive, 95% of which is made up of Flynn's drawings and plans. They may want to consider renaming the site.

http://architecturearchive.usgamuseum.com/
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on November 25, 2010, 03:57:56 PM
Myopia, 1901 (June 13, 1901 Evening Telegram).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/June13_1901_NYEveningTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: TEPaul on November 25, 2010, 06:17:57 PM
Joe:

This is one helluva thread and has already ended up being a great resource but at this point with your recent inclusion of that Myopia Evening Telegram drawing of Myopia, I think a real distinction needs to be made on this thread that indicates to everyone just how different most all actual architectural drawings done by architects are compared to drawings of a golf course probably done by some employee of a newspaper, as that one of Myopia in 1901 appears to be. It's not much more than a stick routing and it's primary purpose may've been nothing more than to show the spectators what hole they were on if they went to see the 1901 US Open.

But Herbert Leeds put on one helluva show for the spectators and players but unfortunately the guy was such an outright elitist martinet he would not let the pros come near the clubhouse. They had to change in a tent and it was either this Open or the one in 1898 where some of the pros were so mad about the treatment they got at Myopia the next year, I think out in Chicago, some told the USGA if they couldn't do better than that they were not willing to play in their US Open.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on December 01, 2010, 11:23:27 PM
Here is another map of Myopia, courtesy of Tom MacWood c/o Joe Bausch in this thread...http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,46602.70/

(http://i53.tinypic.com/2cichuh.jpg)

[Note:  This may be the same as one of maps in Reply #114.  But those photos are temporarily unviewable, so I can't tell for sure.]

And here is one of Atlantic City from Mike Cirba in that same thread...

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5083/5204261379_826715cb7b_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 10, 2010, 03:22:33 PM
Newport (1895, November, The Golfer)

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Newport_TheGolfer_Nov1895.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 10, 2010, 03:34:06 PM
Knollwood (1896, March, The Golfer)

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Knollwood_TheGolfer_Mar1896.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 10, 2010, 05:42:13 PM
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5287/5249560203_ca6617fc86_b.jpg)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5129/5249560199_8969372fe2_b.jpg)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5166/5249560195_884c5144fa_b.jpg)
Noitce the area marked "Canal".  Richard Hyde's boat got washed inland during a storm so he had some men dig a channel back to the water.

......and I couldn't resist posting this tee box drawing from Bayshore:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5161/5249560197_0312088513_z.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tiger_Bernhardt on December 11, 2010, 11:48:22 PM
Bill, I have often dreamed of what 18 would play like if that tee on 18 had been built. I mentioned it to my host today at Cypress. By the by was 15 feet from the pin on 16 with a driver into a 3 club wind. The clubhouse as well as the holes you mentioned are different. But this is an incredible thread. I am enjoying reading it.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bill_McBride on December 13, 2010, 09:32:58 AM
Bill, I have often dreamed of what 18 would play like if that tee on 18 had been built. I mentioned it to my host today at Cypress. By the by was 15 feet from the pin on 16 with a driver into a 3 club wind. The clubhouse as well as the holes you mentioned are different. But this is an incredible thread. I am enjoying reading it.

Needless to say I am quite jealous, but happy to see you are out on the great courses of Monterey!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: David_Tepper on December 13, 2010, 11:32:49 AM
Just in case anyone missed this thread: http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,46756.0/
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 25, 2010, 05:52:06 PM
Morris County (Sept 7, 1898 edition of the Boston Evening Transcript).

(http://i52.tinypic.com/16878zr.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 27, 2010, 05:52:54 PM
Onwentsia - 1899
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5049/5297710359_33d8fb583b_z.jpg)

1899
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5042/5297710365_fdfa0f5297.jpg)

1898
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5201/5297710343_6bf4fd9cda_z.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on December 27, 2010, 11:08:28 PM
Thanks Joe and Jim for some great additions.  As always, your contributions are appreciated.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 28, 2010, 10:56:07 AM
Ed,
I think in my case that would be 'late' additions.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 28, 2010, 11:39:21 AM
Emmet course called Schalren G&CC -NLE
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4127/5084040874_3c88d2483a_z.jpg)

Travis in Utica, NY- NLE (but RTJsr. used some of the existing routing when he built a course known as Valley View 
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5243/5300002307_98f25485e1_b.jpg)


Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 20, 2011, 02:19:11 PM
Hartford Golf Club (July 6, 1902 NY Tribune).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/July6_1902_NYDailyTribune.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 20, 2011, 04:35:53 PM
Mosholu (July 30, 1916. New York Tribune).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/July30_1916_NYTribune.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mike Cirba on January 20, 2011, 04:45:31 PM
Joe,

Have you come across anything indicating who originally designed Mosholu?   Thanks.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 20, 2011, 05:27:26 PM
Joe,

Have you come across anything indicating who originally designed Mosholu?   Thanks.

No indication in the article this diagram came from.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 26, 2011, 12:06:17 PM
Van Cortlandt (March 27, 1899; NY Sun)

(http://i55.tinypic.com/2nc0x9d.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 26, 2011, 03:58:22 PM
Wee Burn (April 18, 1897; NY Sun; George Strath architect, I think).

(http://i52.tinypic.com/jh3hg8.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 26, 2011, 04:03:05 PM
Roselle Casino (April 18, 1897; NY Sun; Tom Bendelow architect, I think).

(http://i56.tinypic.com/11tlyjn.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 26, 2011, 05:45:50 PM
St. Andrews Golf Club, Hastings on Hudson, NY (May 2, 1897; NY Sun)

(http://i51.tinypic.com/2pqum3m.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 26, 2011, 08:22:37 PM
Nassau Country Club (December 25, 1898; NY Sun).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Dec25_1898_NYSun_diagram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 26, 2011, 08:34:15 PM
Crescent Athletic Club in Brooklyn (Feb 7, 1897; NY Sun).

(http://i51.tinypic.com/sawtvq.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 26, 2011, 08:39:10 PM
Richmond HIll (Feb 7, 1897, NY Sun).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/RichmondHill_The_Brooklyn_Daily_Eagle_Sun__Apr_25__1897_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on January 26, 2011, 09:00:21 PM
Joe, thanks for all the recent additions.  I can hardly keep up! 

FYI - The index was getting very long.  So, for those courses that had multiple listings, I consolidated things into one line item and just referenced all posts relating to that course.  Hopefully that will free up some space an make things a little clearer.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 26, 2011, 09:03:59 PM
Garden City GC (March 5, 1899; NY Sun).

(http://i52.tinypic.com/23lijv7.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 26, 2011, 09:19:08 PM
Marine and Field Club (March 1, 1897; NY Sun).

(http://i51.tinypic.com/33peqky.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on January 26, 2011, 09:37:17 PM
Eric Smith previously posted what looks to me to be the final routing for Chechessee Creek in Reply #87.  Here are a couple of alternative routings that are also hanging in the clubhouse...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/ChechesseeRouting2.jpg?t=1296095247)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/ChechesseeRouting3.jpg?t=1296095247)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 27, 2011, 06:27:38 AM
Ocean County Hunt and Country Club of Lakewood (Dec 13, 1896; NY Sun; Horace Rollins the architect I believe).

(http://i53.tinypic.com/r1zcb5.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tom MacWood on January 27, 2011, 06:34:18 AM
It looks like the 18th at GCGC was in a different location in 1899.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 27, 2011, 06:35:45 AM
Manhattan Beach/Coney Island (May 26, 1899; NY Sun; John D. Dunn the architect I believe).

(http://i54.tinypic.com/1pt7bt.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 27, 2011, 06:55:11 AM
Westwood Golf Club at Islip (Oct 26, 1896; NY Sun; Willie Dunn the architect I think).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Oct26_1896_NYSun_diagram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 27, 2011, 07:24:14 AM
Richmond County CC on Staten Island (June 21, 1897; NY Sun).

(http://i51.tinypic.com/21bn42s.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 27, 2011, 07:38:42 AM
Palmetto Golf Club, Aiken, SC (March 22, 1896; NY Sun; Willie Camp...errrr, H. C. Leeds the architect).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Mar22_1896_NYSun_diagram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on January 27, 2011, 09:45:08 AM
Joe -

Why do some of the pictures show up and others don't on this thread? Is there somethng I should be doiing at my end?

Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 27, 2011, 10:29:14 AM
Joe -

Why do some of the pictures show up and others don't on this thread? Is there somethng I should be doiing at my end?

Bob

All of them on the last page should certainly show.  Some I posted many pages ago using this site's hosting service are no longer displaying.  But I know they have been uploaded, just that in the upload process they get corrupted.  I can download any of those and rehab it thru a rehab program and the jpeg is still there.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 27, 2011, 11:36:35 AM
Chicago Golf Club (Jan 28, 1897; NY Sun).

(http://i54.tinypic.com/zlz1u9.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 27, 2011, 11:43:29 AM
Hoylake (May 20, 1897; NY Sun).

(http://i52.tinypic.com/2mwwe3k.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 27, 2011, 12:36:40 PM
Sandwich (June 8, 1899; NY Sun).

(http://i56.tinypic.com/ojqsnb.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 28, 2011, 11:28:35 AM
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5293/5396009144_df421b4343_b.jpg)

                                                                Wanakah - 1900
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 29, 2011, 06:03:13 AM
Englewood Golf Club (March 14, 1897; NY Sun).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Mar14_1897_NYSun_diagram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 06, 2011, 10:46:01 PM
Campbell's routing for The Country Club in 1894, courtesy of Mike Cirba in this friendly little chat between pals... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,40810.1820.html

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5137/5397931763_f198f3426b_o.jpg)

...and Campbell's routing for Essex Country Club in 1899, also courtesy of Mike Cirba in that same thread...

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5140/5422981914_bdfa880a64_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 06, 2011, 11:02:58 PM
Tarratine Club, courtesy of Mike Cirba in this thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,47291.0.html

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5052/5422375469_25b2c7f5a7_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 09, 2011, 10:52:26 PM
Shawnee, courtesy of Philip Young in this thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,47334.msg1056459.html#new

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo90/PhiltheAuthor/ShawneeTweak.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Phil_the_Author on February 10, 2011, 05:16:19 AM
Ed,

The above drawing of Shawnee was done in 1914-15 and is the first a number of course revisions and lengthenings done over the years. This is the original course routing from the advertising booklet composed and drawn by Tilly in 1911 before the course and Inn opened:

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo90/PhiltheAuthor/ShawneeTweak2.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Eric Morrison on February 10, 2011, 06:12:29 AM
Shennecossett 1919
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x280/esm123/1919courserendering.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Charlie Visconsi on March 15, 2011, 11:26:47 PM
Siwanoy Map on Reply #165.  Can someone re-post it as the picture no longer exists in the link.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 15, 2011, 11:51:18 PM
Charlie, the images which no longer appear were uploaded using the website's attachment feature and stored on gca.com's server.  All photos posted in this manner disappeared about a year ago.  It is not clear whether they will ever be restored.  Hopefully Joe Bausch (who found and posted the Siwanoy map) still has a copy and can either repost it here or send it to you privately.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on March 16, 2011, 11:54:52 AM
Charlie, the images which no longer appear were uploaded using the website's attachment feature and stored on gca.com's server.  All photos posted in this manner disappeared about a year ago.  It is not clear whether they will ever be restored.  Hopefully Joe Bausch (who found and posted the Siwanoy map) still has a copy and can either repost it here or send it to you privately.

Here it is again:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Siwanoy_1915_NYEveningTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Charlie Visconsi on March 16, 2011, 09:50:25 PM
Joe - Thanks for re-posting the map.  Now, if we can only get back to some of the features from 100 years ago.  Routing is exact same but we have covered up the creek on too many holes (1,10, 14).  The most intersting thing is that Hole #2 is actually only 402 yards today.  Ross spoke about #2 as a great golf hole at the time (and still is). 
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Cristian on March 22, 2011, 02:02:44 PM
This a picture of the 1898 routing of RSG (Sandwich), which is visible on the wall of the men's locker room. It is a beautiful copy of a drawing which my photo does not do justice (especially holes 13 and 14).

(please use zoom for closer look)


(http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af316/cristianwillaert/SwinleyRSG/RSGmap1898.jpg)


It is remarkable that there were only 2 par 3's in the routing at the time and none on the back 9:

(http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af316/cristianwillaert/SwinleyRSG/RSGscorecard1898.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Forrest Richardson on March 22, 2011, 11:37:39 PM
A great thread. Some familiar, some not so.

Cypress from www.golframes.com

(http://www.golframes.com/product_images/14.cypressLg.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Forrest Richardson on March 22, 2011, 11:39:38 PM
Oakmont:


(http://www.golframes.com/product_images/23.oakmontLg.jpg)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Forrest Richardson on March 22, 2011, 11:42:06 PM
Pebble:

(http://www.golframes.com/product_images/87.Pebble-Detail-Web.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 23, 2011, 11:36:26 AM
Thanks Cristian and Forrest for your lates additions!  They are all really outstanding.

Forrest, I have taken the liberty of resizing your images here for those who are scrolling aversive:

(http://www.golframes.com/product_images/14.cypressLg.jpg)

(http://www.golframes.com/product_images/23.oakmontLg.jpg)

(http://www.golframes.com/product_images/87.Pebble-Detail-Web.jpg)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 02, 2011, 01:39:41 PM
Town and Country Club, St. Paul, MN (Oct 4, 1896 St. Paul Globe).

(http://i53.tinypic.com/28hj6he.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 02, 2011, 04:08:08 PM
This might have been posted previously by TMac, but it is no longer displaying.

Salisbury (Emmet).  From the Aug 11, 1907 edition of the NY Tribune.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Aug11_1907_NYTribune_diagram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on April 02, 2011, 07:17:38 PM
There are a tremendous number of off-set tees at Emmet's Salisbury. Very cool. 

Looks like a very good course. Does it still exist?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 02, 2011, 08:30:15 PM

Looks like a very good course. Does it still exist?

I believe this is now Cherry Valley, but nothing is left of the original Emmet design.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on April 24, 2011, 04:25:25 PM
1895 routing map for the Bedford Springs Resort, courtesy of George Pazin in this thread... http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=m9sff9g0nevlpc5295hbqvcn37&topic=23433.msg429299#msg429299

(http://www.nauticom.net/users/tshirts/routingreduced.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 05, 2011, 07:39:05 PM
Burnet Park (June 20, 1914; Syracuse Post-Standard).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/BurnetPark_Syracuse%20NY%20Post%20Standard%201914%20-%202687.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 05, 2011, 08:54:27 PM
James River (June 26, 1955; Niagara Falls Gazette).

(http://i56.tinypic.com/1z30407.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: RSLivingston_III on May 05, 2011, 09:19:59 PM
I think I have a good one for you.
Machrihanish
Copy photo of the plans hanging in the clubhouse.
How much fun would this version have been to play, back when the 18th finished at what is now the practice putting green by the start hut.
(http://www.hickorygolf.com/dl/Machrihanish.jpg)

Ed, the full size is 2870 x 3870 pixels
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 08, 2011, 06:12:21 AM
El Paso CC (Sept 9, 1916 El Paso Herald; Bendelow)

(http://i55.tinypic.com/dp9rwg.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 16, 2011, 07:54:38 PM
Swope Park (May 12, 1911 edition of the Kansas City Star).

(http://i55.tinypic.com/np5mp2.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 21, 2011, 10:42:02 AM
Forest Park (May 19, 1914 edition of the Brooklyn Daily Eagle).

(http://i53.tinypic.com/nwzs6h.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on June 12, 2011, 01:15:40 PM
Del Monte (Dec 31, 1911 SF Call).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Dec31_1911_SFCall_routing.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on June 12, 2011, 01:28:47 PM
Mount Franklin (March 18, 1916 edition of the El Paso Herald).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Mar18_1916_ElPasoHerald.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on June 13, 2011, 07:28:24 AM
Tuxedo (June 12, 1898; NY World)

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Jun12_1898_NYWorld.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on July 02, 2011, 07:00:40 PM
Baltusrol (Jan 7, 1900; NY World)

(http://i53.tinypic.com/x6em49.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on July 21, 2011, 08:39:58 PM
Interlachen (July 8, 1930; Chester Times).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/July8_1930_ChesterTimes_map.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on July 30, 2011, 05:20:08 AM
Essex County Club (Manchester); Boston Evening Transcript (September 8, 1900).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Sept8_1900_BostonEveningTranscript.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mike Cirba on July 31, 2011, 03:37:17 PM
For those familiar with Essex County (MA), how much of this old routing, if any, exists on today's course?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Patrick_Mucci on August 01, 2011, 08:54:58 PM
Compliments of Tom MacWood, I believe, here is the Crump/Colt "blue/red" working topo map of Pine Valley.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2731/4404668772_1e782b51ac_o.jpg)



Ran & Ben,

This thread should be archived or put in another section for preservation and referencing.

As to the RED - BLUE topo, here it is.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Patrick_Mucci on August 01, 2011, 09:09:17 PM
Does anyone have the maps, diagrams or early aerials of Westhampton.

Joe Bausch,

Why do certain posted photos expire ?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on August 01, 2011, 11:21:30 PM
Pat, the images which no longer appear are those that were posted using gca.com's server rather than via an external hosting website like photbucket, flickr, etc.  The lost images disappeared about a year ago.  This is an issue not only on this thread, but also on every other thread where photos were posted using the website's server.  As for the Westhampton diagrams, they originally came from Tom MacWood.  I assume he still has them.  Perhaps he can repost them or send to me and I will do so for him.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Patrick_Mucci on August 02, 2011, 12:56:15 PM
Ed Oden,

Tom MacWood was kind enough to supply me with the schematic for Westhampton.

I don't know how to post those things on GCA.com, so perhaps he can post it on this thread.

This thread should be incorporated into one of the other categories such that it can be accessed for the routing maps, plans and drawings.

Thanks for starting a very informative thread.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on August 02, 2011, 01:27:08 PM
Ed Oden,

Tom MacWood was kind enough to supply me with the schematic for Westhampton.

I don't know how to post those things on GCA.com, so perhaps he can post it on this thread.

This thread should be incorporated into one of the other categories such that it can be accessed for the routing maps, plans and drawings.

Thanks for starting a very informative thread.

Pat and Tom and others (including moi for those jgp's in this thread from me no longer displaying!):

Use tinypic.com to host your jpgs.  It is free and I don't think it even requires an account!

Edit:  obviously tinypic stopped working for me!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on August 04, 2011, 11:03:54 PM
Van Cortlandt (May 30, 1916; Evening World)

(http://i54.tinypic.com/2yuwq60.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on August 06, 2011, 03:37:13 AM
(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205880&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205884&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205886&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205888&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205900&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205902&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205904&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205906&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205908&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205910&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205914&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205916&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205918&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205920&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205874&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205878&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205882&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205892&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205894&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205896&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205898&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205912&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205872&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205876&t=w)

(http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id=1205890&t=w)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on August 17, 2011, 04:13:56 PM
Brighton (July 25, 1961 Tonawanda News; New York).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/July25_1961_TonawandaNews.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on October 02, 2011, 04:28:20 PM
Eau Claire Golf & Country Club, courtesy of Phil McDade in this thread... http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=078bd2fc381fa6b5c34cf800a3a2caba&topic=49805.0

(http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr120/philmcdade/eauclaire/eauclaire116.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on October 11, 2011, 09:38:56 PM
Lester George was kind enough to forward a map of The Old White course at the Greenbrier as of July 2010...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Rendering7_2010updated2.jpg?t=1318382912)

Thanks Lester!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on October 29, 2011, 10:53:05 AM
Here is an interesting series of drawings from Turnberry's club history showing the progression of the Ailsa routing originally posted by Mark Bourgeois in this thread... http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,27257.msg516215/topicseen.html#msg516215

The routing for the original Willie Fernie course, 1901
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k204/MSBIII/L1000764.jpg)

The Cecil Hutchinson Ailsa, completed in 1938
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k204/MSBIII/L1000767.jpg)

The Mackenzie Ross Ailsa, 1951
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k204/MSBIII/L1000770.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on October 31, 2011, 08:52:51 PM
Here is another map of The Old White at the Greenbrier courtesy of Lester George.  This one, however, dates all the way back to 1914!

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Greenbrier1914Map.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on November 03, 2011, 02:50:24 PM
Ekwanok before the 1914 US Amateur (Aug 30, 1914 Daily Eagle).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/diagram_Aug30_1914_DailyEagle.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on November 11, 2011, 10:44:19 PM
Muirfield, courtesy of Paul Turner, Sean Arble and Melvyn Morrow in this thread...http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,3543.0.html

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/paulturner/Muirfield_Route2.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/paulturner/muirfield.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/paulturner/muirfieldmerge.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/paulturner/_1100303.jpg)

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff114/seanrobertarble/Muirfield1896.jpg?t=1315230295)

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p421/Melvyn_Hunter/MuirfieldGC12061920Map001.jpg)

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p421/Melvyn_Hunter/MuirfieldGCMap6051929.jpg)

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p421/Melvyn_Hunter/MuirfieldGC70619206051929001.jpg)

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p421/Melvyn_Hunter/MuirfieldGC12061920Map001-1.jpg)

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p421/Melvyn_Hunter/MuirfieldGCNewLandPurchase1922.jpg)

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p421/Melvyn_Hunter/MuirfieldGCScotsmanArt6051929P1001.jpg)

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p421/Melvyn_Hunter/MuirfieldGCCourse22061935.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on November 11, 2011, 10:48:19 PM
Rock Manor, thanks to Lester George...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/RockManorPlan.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on November 11, 2011, 10:59:13 PM
Pine Valley, courtesy of Bryan Izatt in the following thread...

http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,50130.msg1137560.html#msg1137560

(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/350dtm/Colt_PV.jpg)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Patrick_Mucci on November 12, 2011, 12:49:38 AM
Ed,  ;D
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on November 12, 2011, 08:49:08 AM
Sorry Pat.  I have added a footnote.  Hope this helps!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Patrick_Mucci on November 12, 2011, 10:47:19 AM
Sorry Pat.  I have added a footnote.  Hope this helps!
Only if you don't want to play GCGC any time soon  ;D

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on November 12, 2011, 08:31:20 PM
Sorry Pat.  I have added a footnote.  Hope this helps!
Only if you don't want to play GCGC any time soon  ;D


Pat, that is an excellent point.  Dare I say among the most persuasive I have ever seen penned in these pages.  So, upon further reflection, I have once again tweaked credit for the PV map. 
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bart Bradley on November 12, 2011, 09:12:15 PM
Ed:

No fair, some of the best threads on GCA.com AND access hounding promoted by the houndee.  Man, this stinks.   I gotta think of some better threads.   :D.

Bart
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Patrick_Mucci on November 12, 2011, 11:27:55 PM

Pat, that is an excellent point.  Dare I say among the most persuasive I have ever seen penned in these pages.  So, upon further reflection, I have once again tweaked credit for the PV map.

Ed, your chances are improving significantly, keep up the good work. ;D
 
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bryan Izatt on November 13, 2011, 09:43:44 PM
Ed,

Not to interfere with your plans for GCGC, but Pat is delusional that I got the Colt plan from him.   ::)  I got it from someone else, who shall remain nameless.  It was also posted by Mike Cirba in post 1435 on the Pine Valley and Topos thread.  I didn't get it from Mike.  Feel free to take my name off the credit, but putting Pat's there is a joke.  You can, of course, use the thread name.  

I see Pat has amended his complaint post, but before doing so, he originally claimed credit for giving me one version of the "stick routing topo", not the Colt plan.  For the record, he did give me one version of the "stick routing topo".  For the record, he did NOT give me the Colt PV plan.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Doug Stein on November 13, 2011, 10:10:53 PM
Lookout Mountain, the working sketch:
https://picasaweb.google.com/fdstein/LMGCBySethRaynor?authuser=0&feat=directlink

https://picasaweb.google.com/fdstein/LMGCBySethRaynor?authuser=0&feat=directlink (https://picasaweb.google.com/fdstein/LMGCBySethRaynor?authuser=0&feat=directlink)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on November 13, 2011, 11:54:07 PM
Ed,

Not to interfere with your plans for GCGC, but Pat is delusional that I got the Colt plan from him.   ::)  I got it from someone else, who shall remain nameless.  It was also posted by Mike Cirba in post 1435 on the Pine Valley and Topos thread.  I didn't get it from Mike.  Feel free to take my name off the credit, but putting Pat's there is a joke.  You can, of course, use the thread name.  

I see Pat has amended his complaint post, but before doing so, he originally claimed credit for giving me one version of the "stick routing topo", not the Colt plan.  For the record, he did give me one version of the "stick routing topo".  For the record, he did NOT give me the Colt PV plan.

Sadly, it appears that my original NLE response to Pat's post may have been closer to reality than the humor it was intended to provide.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Patrick_Mucci on November 14, 2011, 10:38:05 PM
Ed,

When I viewed the schematic/map on my Iphone, I mixed it up with the stick routing which I supplied to Bryan.

I had also previously posted the Red/Blue Colt/Crump schematic in reply # 370 in August, 2011..
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 20, 2011, 08:41:44 PM
Mohawk GC, Schenectady, NY:
 
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6212/6373367565_52ff0bb250_z.jpg)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on November 20, 2011, 10:55:14 PM
North Berwick, courtesy of Bryan Izatt in this thread...http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=m9sff9g0nevlpc5295hbqvcn37&topic=50245.0

(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/350dtm/NorthBerwickOldLayout.jpg)

And Biarritz Golf Club, courtesy of David Moriarty a little later on in that same thread...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/dmoriarty/Golf%20Courses/BiarritzPlanUndated.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 31, 2011, 12:01:22 PM
Cherry Hills (June 4, 1938 edition of the Chester Times).

(http://i44.tinypic.com/33xvdxu.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 01, 2012, 04:51:59 AM
A real beaut here!  From the April 26, 1902 edition of the Daily Mail (Hagerstown, MD):

(http://i39.tinypic.com/rcvx9v.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 07, 2012, 07:09:28 PM
The club's history, with old photos and more maps of the course.
http://www.moundbuilderscc.com/Files/The%20Golf%20Course.pdf


(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7001/6655935803_a3320bc5c2_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on January 14, 2012, 01:17:25 PM
Waialae, courtesy of George Bhato in this thread... http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,38283.msg794217.html#msg794217
 
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/waialaeplan.jpg)

PS - A special thanks to Joe Bausch for straightening things out.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on January 21, 2012, 02:22:09 PM
Ross' 1923 plan for Rackham Golf Course, courtesy of Bradley Anderson in this thread... http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,50854.msg1159710.html#msg1159710

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16492815/Rackham%20map%20copy.JPG)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: JR Potts on January 21, 2012, 03:02:37 PM
MEDINAH - FULL PROPERTY MAP (Pre Course #3)
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_5986.jpg)

Map Legends
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_5986_2.jpg)
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6022.jpg)

Course #3 Land
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6024.jpg)

Extracurricular Land
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6023.jpg)

COURSE #1
1st Hole (The nines have been flipped from the original)
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_5994.jpg)
2nd Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_5995.jpg)
3rd Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_5996.jpg)
4th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_5997.jpg)
5th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_5998.jpg)
6th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_5999.jpg)
7th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6000.jpg)
8th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6001.jpg)
9th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6002.jpg)
10th and 11th Holes
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_5988.jpg)
12th and 13th Holes
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_5989.jpg)
14th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_5990.jpg)
15th and 16th Holes
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_5991.jpg)
17th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_5992.jpg)
18th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_5993.jpg)

COURSE #2
1st Hole (The nines have been flipped from the original)
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6012.jpg)
2nd Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6013.jpg)
3rd Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6014.jpg)
4th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6015.jpg)
5th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6016.jpg)
6th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6017.jpg)
7th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6018.jpg)
8th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6019.jpg)
9th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6020.jpg)
10th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6003.jpg)
11th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6004.jpg)
12th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6005.jpg)
13th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6006.jpg)
14th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6007.jpg)
15th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6008.jpg)
16th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6009.jpg)
17th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6010.jpg)
18th Hole
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/jryanpotts/IMG_6011.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on January 21, 2012, 03:24:20 PM
Thanks Ryan!  That is a very cool map of Medinah.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on January 21, 2012, 06:09:55 PM
Banyan GC, West Palm Beach, FL - Joe Lee

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/BanyanRouting.jpg)


President CC (Eagle), West Palm Beach, FL - RTJ Jr.

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/PresidentCC-Routing.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 05, 2012, 10:20:09 PM
Lester George's plans for Contentment from this thread... http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,50850.0.html

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7144/6752407501_c6b968ba47_b.jpg)

...and the Dormie practice facility from this thread... http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,50913.0.html

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7003/6756911861_3a37b0872a_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 05, 2012, 10:45:55 PM
From Kevin Mendik's fine IMO "The Challenges of Restoring a Classic American Golf Course"... http://www.golfclubatlas.com/in-my-opinion/kevin-mendik-challenges-of-restoring-a-classic-american-golf-course/

Chicago Golf Club...

(http://www.golfclubatlas.com/images/KMchicago1898.jpg)

...and NGLA (I've cropped and rotated the image from Kevin's piece}...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/NGLA.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 11, 2012, 11:41:40 PM
Mackenzie's proposed changes to Brisbane Golf Club (Yeerongpilly Links), courtesy of Neil Crafter in this thread... http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=m9sff9g0nevlpc5295hbqvcn37&topic=51081.0

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/Saabman2005/Yeerongpillysketch.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 15, 2012, 10:37:21 PM
From Lester George, a rendering of Kinloch prepared for the most recent US Senior Amateur...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/KinlochRenderingSeniorAmateur.jpg)


And the Road Hole at The Old Course, courtesy of Joshua Pettit in this thread... http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,51130.0.html

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/joshpettit/RoadHole.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 04, 2012, 09:41:03 PM
A fantastic drawing by Dr. Mac of Sutton Coldfield, courtesy of Sean Arble in this thread... http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,51321.0.html


(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff114/seanrobertarble/SUTTON%20COLDFIELD%20GC/SuttonColdfieldGCPlan1919.jpg?t=1330736906)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 04, 2012, 11:27:08 PM
Huntercombe, courtesy of Sean Arble in this thread... http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,32228.0.html

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff114/seanrobertarble/HUNTERCOMBE/huntercombe.jpg?t=1267384260)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 07, 2012, 12:07:44 AM
Pine Valley...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/PineValley2.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on April 15, 2012, 12:16:59 AM
I would like to offer a very special thanks to Phil Young for forwarding this early map of Augusta National from a short booklet on the course written by Dr. Mac...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/bobbyjonescoursebymackenzie-012.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on April 15, 2012, 10:32:19 PM
Here are a couple of nice contributions by Greg Hohman via an email to Ran:

Agua Caliente (which I believe later became Tijuana Country Club) from the program for the 1930 Agua Caliente Open...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/AguaCaliente.jpg)

...and Balboa Park...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/BalboaPark.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ben Voelker on April 16, 2012, 10:03:50 PM
A rendering of Wakonda Club drawn by Langford and Moreau.

Note the drawing is of the original 27 hole layout.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7064/6986408443_136c45bcd8_c.jpg)

The original size photo can be downloaded here for those that are interested

http://www.flickr.com/photos/benjaminvoelker/6986408443/sizes/o/in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benjaminvoelker/6986408443/sizes/o/in/photostream/)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on April 16, 2012, 10:50:42 PM
Very nice Ben.  Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tom MacWood on April 17, 2012, 11:02:58 PM
That is an amazing diagram. Even with the unfortunate platform changes, and lost images, this has to be the greatest thread in GCA history.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on April 17, 2012, 11:46:48 PM
Thanks to Sven Nilsen for pointing me to this thread (http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,51383.msg1186211.html#msg1186211) where he posted Olmsted's plan for ANGC.

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Lester/115_09.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 06, 2012, 03:46:04 AM
Springfield CC, Springfield, MA (Apr 29, 1900; Springfield Republican).

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2q9vq5e.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 06, 2012, 04:04:32 AM
Swope Park (Dec 13, 1910; Kansas City Star).

(http://i47.tinypic.com/2zg90rk.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 06, 2012, 04:19:09 AM
Dallas CC (Jan 4, 1912; Dallas Morning News).

(http://i50.tinypic.com/azjs6w.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Neil White on May 06, 2012, 04:44:04 AM
Ed,

As mentioned previously this is a great thread.

Is there any way that the routings can be organised into alphabetical order?

Just wondering.

Cheers,

Neil.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 06, 2012, 04:46:59 AM
Mission Hills CC (May 1, 1921; Kansas City Star).

(http://i47.tinypic.com/14sp9ft.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 06, 2012, 04:47:37 AM
Ed,

As mentioned previously this is a great thread.

Is there any way that the routings can be organised into alphabetical order?

Just wondering.

Cheers,

Neil.

They are Neil.  See the first page of the thread.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 06, 2012, 04:55:58 AM
Anaconda CC (Anaconda Standard, Montana; Aug 21, 1921).

(http://i48.tinypic.com/1zd89c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 06, 2012, 05:24:46 AM
Springfield CC, Springfield, Mass (Dec 21, 1899; Springfield Republican).

(http://i46.tinypic.com/igmazk.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 06, 2012, 03:00:04 PM
Ridgeview Country Club, Duluth, MN (Sept 26, 1920; Duluth News Tribune).

(http://i50.tinypic.com/ouxe2b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 06, 2012, 04:29:04 PM
Hillcrest CC, Kansas City (Nov 15, 1915 KC Star).

(http://i50.tinypic.com/2usd9o9.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Neil White on May 06, 2012, 06:40:15 PM
Joe,

Obliged.

Neil.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on May 14, 2012, 10:24:23 AM
Southern Hills

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/file.jpg)


(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/file-1.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on May 14, 2012, 10:25:01 AM
Jimmie Austin GC (Maxwell, sort of):

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/file-2.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on May 14, 2012, 10:25:30 AM
The Patriot (RTJ Jr.)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/file-3.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on May 14, 2012, 10:26:10 AM
Twin Hills (Maxwell) w/ Heckenkemper Changes

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/file-4.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on May 14, 2012, 10:26:29 AM
Prairie Dunes - Original 9

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/file-5.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on May 14, 2012, 10:26:57 AM
Wichita CC (Diddel)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/file-6.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on May 15, 2012, 09:42:50 PM
Thanks to Chris Buie for this beautiful drawing of Ross' original 9 holes at Thendara Country Club...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Thendara.jpg)

Can anyone figure out what is going on with the 4th green?

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: DMoriarty on May 16, 2012, 12:04:08 AM
Either a swale or a ridge?   
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Lester George on May 16, 2012, 05:22:03 PM
I think it is a hogback.  Seen it depicted that way before.

Lester
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on May 19, 2012, 06:38:32 PM
Bigwin Island Golf Club, Lake of Bays, Canada - Doug Carrick

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/file-8.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 26, 2012, 03:11:45 PM
The first 11 holes of the "Ab Smith Masterpiece" (aka Karakung) from the April 19, 1927 edition of the Evening Bulletin (Phila, PA).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Apr19_1927_EvenBull.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Chris Clouser on May 26, 2012, 11:12:23 PM
Mark,

I have two questions for you.  The Jimmie Austin routing, did you put the original routing overlay on that or is that on display at the course?  I'm curious because I have a photo of the original routing that they had hanging in the proshop when I visited there several years ago. 

Also, on the Southern Hills routings, did you notice how the 7th looked much more like a slight dogleg originally and is now much more straight away?  That green used to be further to the left and had a swale short of it.  I think they moved the green due to drainage issues at some point, but I have not been able to pinpoint when. 

Oh, one more, do you know what changes Heckenkamper made at Twin Hills?  Other than 14 and 15, that course really didn't need much work in my opinion. 
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tom MacWood on May 27, 2012, 11:01:29 AM
Ridgeview Country Club, Duluth, MN (Sept 26, 1920; Duluth News Tribune).

(http://i50.tinypic.com/ouxe2b.jpg)

Joe
Isn't William Watson responsible for this design?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 27, 2012, 11:22:05 AM
Ridgeview Country Club, Duluth, MN (Sept 26, 1920; Duluth News Tribune).

(http://i50.tinypic.com/ouxe2b.jpg)

Joe
Isn't William Watson responsible for this design?

Yes, I believe so.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 31, 2012, 11:18:26 AM
Yardley CC (Alex Findlay; July 19, 1929 Sunday Times Advertiser; Trenton, NJ). [courtesy of Mike Cirba]

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/July19_1929_SundayTimesAdv_diagram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark_Rowlinson on May 31, 2012, 01:29:06 PM
If someone would care to go to: http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,51574.msg1179885.html#msg1179885
they could lift the maps of Wilmslow Golf Club and include them in this thread. They were taken from the club's centenary book.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark_Rowlinson on May 31, 2012, 02:12:24 PM
I have a few routing maps that are bigger than A4 and therefore too big to scan on my very basic system. I would happily post these to someone who has the facility to post them on this thread. These include Hirono (colour and black and white), Frilford Heath, Biella Le Bettule and Bath (Colt). If I look through my files I'm sure I can locate many more. I also have some lovely old black and white pictures of Hirono at about A4 size if someone has the facility to post them on GCA at a decent resolution. E-mail or IM me.   
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on May 31, 2012, 02:23:03 PM
If someone would care to go to: http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,51574.msg1179885.html#msg1179885
they could lift the maps of Wilmslow Golf Club and include them in this thread. They were taken from the club's centenary book.

Thanks Mark!  Here are the Wilmslow maps from the referenced thread:

1903
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/markrowlinson/Odds%20and%20Ends/Odds%20and%20Ends%202/Wilmslow004.jpg)

1910
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/markrowlinson/Odds%20and%20Ends/Odds%20and%20Ends%202/Wilmslow005.jpg)

1920's
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/markrowlinson/Odds%20and%20Ends/Odds%20and%20Ends%202/Wilmslow006.jpg)

1937
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/markrowlinson/Odds%20and%20Ends/Odds%20and%20Ends%202/Wilmslow001.jpg)


If you send me the larger maps mentioned in your last post I'll be happy to figure out a way to get them posted.  I will send you a separate IM.  Thanks!

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on May 31, 2012, 06:19:52 PM
Mark,

I have two questions for you.  The Jimmie Austin routing, did you put the original routing overlay on that or is that on display at the course?  I'm curious because I have a photo of the original routing that they had hanging in the proshop when I visited there several years ago. 

Chris, it is on display at the golf course.

Also, on the Southern Hills routings, did you notice how the 7th looked much more like a slight dogleg originally and is now much more straight away?  That green used to be further to the left and had a swale short of it.  I think they moved the green due to drainage issues at some point, but I have not been able to pinpoint when. 

I thought I recalled reading that the green was once closer to the creek that runs down the right side of the hole.  I didn't know that the green was once left of its current location, though it does look that way based on the two pictures.  So the 7th green has been moved twice?

Oh, one more, do you know what changes Heckenkamper made at Twin Hills?  Other than 14 and 15, that course really didn't need much work in my opinion. 

I don't know specifically, but there were 72 changes listed -- no idea how significant (or not) they are.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on June 07, 2012, 05:15:24 AM
Baltusrol (July 13, 1919, New York Herald).

(http://i49.tinypic.com/2jfkpc.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on June 09, 2012, 06:32:22 PM
Frinton GC

(http://www.frinton.org/history/images/large/old-frinton-golf-course-plan-large.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on June 09, 2012, 08:17:28 PM
Can't remember where I found this one.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7228/7170744741_3c9eec7346_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on June 11, 2012, 09:43:54 PM
Many thanks to Neil Crafter for forwarding this map of Charles River Country Club...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/CharlesRiverMap.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on June 21, 2012, 02:20:15 PM
Sand Ridge GC, Chardon, OH - Tom Fazio

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/file-56.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on June 21, 2012, 02:21:02 PM
St George's G&CC, Etobicoke, Canada - Stanley Thompson

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/file-55.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on June 26, 2012, 12:18:37 PM
Thanks to Carl Johnson for passing along John Van Kleek's drawings for Old Fort Golf Club in Old Fort, NC.  Here is the preliminary plan...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/OldFort_00041.jpg?t=1340726754)

...and then the final as-built plan, which I understand was implemented after some additional land was acquired...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/OldFort_00051.jpg?t=1340726710)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on June 26, 2012, 12:22:51 PM
Also, thanks to Lester George for sending me his plan for Forest Hills Golf and Resort in Hiroshima, Japan...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/JapanRouting.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: TEPaul on June 26, 2012, 12:34:50 PM
This thread is one beautiful and potentially truly useful one into the future. It should just keep on going and going.

However, what I would really like to know is what is the EARLIEST truly PROVABLE topographical (contour lines) survey map that was used PRE-CONTRUCTION to actually design a golf course on?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on June 26, 2012, 12:39:55 PM
Brookside CC (Donald Ross), Canton, Ohio

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/file-63.jpg)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/file-64.jpg)


Silva Master Plan

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/file-62.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on June 26, 2012, 12:58:09 PM
Ed,
Not really a drawing, so I'll delete it if it doesn't 'fit'.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8151/7448817926_5c58fdacfe_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: TEPaul on June 26, 2012, 01:23:41 PM
Jim Kennedy:

That interesting newspaper article and aerial photo really brings back some old memories for me. My father held the course record on that course for years (which he set in the Ormond Beach Championship) and I remember so well JDR's house (which is out of view). It was a very odd, incredibly long and low house that stretched way down the little road that ran south beside the Inland Waterway to Daytona.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on June 26, 2012, 04:22:37 PM
Jim Kennedy:

That interesting newspaper article and aerial photo really brings back some old memories for me. My father held the course record on that course for years (which he set in the Ormond Beach Championship) and I remember so well JDR's house (which is out of view). It was a very odd, incredibly long and low house that stretched way down the little road that ran south beside the Inland Waterway to Daytona.

Definitely odd

(http://fpc.dos.state.fl.us/reference/rc08818.jpg)

(http://www.cardcow.com/images/set309/card00773_fr.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on July 02, 2012, 09:57:18 AM
Oneck - not hard to tell who designed this one.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8156/7486957516_dd693181d7_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tom MacWood on July 02, 2012, 03:44:52 PM
Jim
Was there an article accompanying the Oneck map?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on July 02, 2012, 03:50:40 PM
Sorry Tom, no article. I found the map when cleaning out some old folders.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on July 18, 2012, 09:02:44 AM
Segregansett CC -  Taunton, Ma.- -orig. 9 laid out by A. H. Findlay

(https://segregansett.memberstatements.com/Clubs/Segregansett%20Country%20Club/Uploaded/FacilityPics/History/Orig_nine.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on July 31, 2012, 12:14:32 AM
Thanks to Chris Buie for these images of the earliest known map of The Old Course posted in this thread...http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,52935.msg1216138.html#msg1216138

(http://sandhillsinsider.com/p1.jpg)

(http://sandhillsinsider.com/p2.jpg)

(http://sandhillsinsider.com/p3.jpg)

(http://sandhillsinsider.com/pilmour4.jpg)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on August 09, 2012, 07:42:08 PM
ROCHESTER DEMOCRAT AND CHRONICLE /SUNDAY JULY 14 1918.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8304/7749560434_7a73717bba_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on August 19, 2012, 09:15:27 AM
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8425/7814798396_01342cf162_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on August 24, 2012, 02:05:30 PM
I found Ross' original 1925 plan for Metacomet on their website... http://www.metacometcc.org/club/scripts/library/view_document.asp?GRP=8988&NS=PG&APP=80&DN=ORIGINALDR

Hopefully they won't mind me posting the image here...
(http://www.metacometcc.org/Images/Library/metacomet.jpg)

If so, I will certainly take it down and just leave the link to their website page.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on August 27, 2012, 12:53:43 AM
There is a marvelous drawing of Royal Porthcawl hanging in their men's locker room.  Here is the full plan with some amateurish photoshopping in a futile attempt to remove the glare of bright background lights...
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/RoyalPorthcawlSimpsonMapFixed.jpg)

Here is a closer view of the top half without photoshop...
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/RoyalPorthcawlSimpsonMapCropped.jpg)

...and the bottom half...
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/RoyalPorthcawlSimpsonMap4Cropped.jpg)

...and, finally, Simpson's signature...
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/RoyalPorthcawlSimpsonMap3.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe_Tucholski on August 27, 2012, 02:36:27 AM
Didn't see the following posted so here are some routings from the last pages in an advertising book/pamphlet put out by the Santa Fe Railway.  The pamphlet can be found on the USGA digital library here:
http://photoarchive.usga.org/cgi/mbweb.pl?framedone=1&sid=210&do=fullsearchdownload&filename=Golf in California.pdf&id=19&dbname=SEGL_Books (http://photoarchive.usga.org/cgi/mbweb.pl?framedone=1&sid=210&do=fullsearchdownload&filename=Golf in California.pdf&id=19&dbname=SEGL_Books)

Coronado Golf Club Links:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4_CVJZMow6U/UDsXiELthAI/AAAAAAAABw4/nFGREfLvV9c/s800/golf%2520in%2520california%255B1%255D%25201900%2520coronado_1-001.jpg)


LA CC:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-_Ccq3UBjBX8/UDsXhgqMZ3I/AAAAAAAABxc/kdT7wtGc_FM/s800/golf%2520in%2520california%255B1%255D%25201900%2520la%2520cc_2-001.jpg)


Pasadena CC:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-O7zY1hpe7Yg/UDsXh3a_1JI/AAAAAAAABwQ/8qwnK6158Rc/s800/golf%2520in%2520california%255B1%255D%25201900%2520pasadena_3-001.jpg)


Redlands CC:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Jep6Msiojp8/UDsXirVI44I/AAAAAAAABxI/w1QasLi0Ql4/s800/golf%2520in%2520california%255B1%255D%25201900%2520redlands_4-001.jpg)


Hotel Redondo Links:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-jkxoZy_Ygss/UDsXjI4YLjI/AAAAAAAABwo/jPZGY0lpY-8/s800/golf%2520in%2520california%255B1%255D%25201900%2520redondo_5-001.jpg)


Santa Barbra CC:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WayL7Y43q5c/UDsXjvdrUyI/AAAAAAAABxU/WHjA6n2tbvg/s800/golf%2520in%2520california%255B1%255D%25201900%2520santa%2520barbara_6-001.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on September 25, 2012, 06:06:17 AM
Hoylake (May 24, 1921 Syracuse Herald).

(http://i49.tinypic.com/e8jz3t.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Dónal Ó Ceallaigh on September 25, 2012, 08:40:45 AM
Joe,

I was a bit confused with the Hoylake layout for a while; I thought the newspaper had come up with their own layout. ;) The left half portion of the page should be moved right of the right half. The back nine is closest to the Irish Sea.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on September 25, 2012, 09:02:55 AM
Joe,

I was a bit confused with the Hoylake layout for a while; I thought the newspaper had come up with their own layout. ;) The left half portion of the page should be moved right of the right half. The back nine is closest to the Irish Sea.

The newspaper is from Syracuse.  What would they know about journalism.   ;)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on September 28, 2012, 10:14:02 AM
The Creek Club, courtesy of Bill Brightly in this thread... http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,46306.msg1126602.html#msg1126602

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee169/wcb323/The%20Creek/DSCN0180.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on October 07, 2012, 10:16:41 PM
Sleepy Hollow Country Club

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/file-430.jpg)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/file-1556.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on October 19, 2012, 05:38:37 PM
Country Club of Scranton, courtesy of Joe Bausch in this thread...http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,53736.0.html

(http://xchem.villanova.edu/~bausch/images/scranton/Travis_plans.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on October 19, 2012, 05:42:49 PM
The Olde Farm...

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8332/8101392556_3121d82b9b_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Patrick_Mucci on October 20, 2012, 07:01:40 AM
Ed,

I think this is a wonderfully valuable thread.

Is there any way it can be preserved in one of the other GCA sections, like "Art & Architecture, so that it's easier to access, instead of going back and trying to find it in old discussion group threads ?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on October 21, 2012, 09:15:31 AM
Pat, I suppose that is a question for Ran.  However, you can bookmark this thread on your browser for easy access in the future regardless of whether Ran links it elsewhere on the site.

I haven't had as much time to keep up with the DG as I used to.  I'm sure I miss things that are posted on threads from time to time.  So if anyone spots anything that would be appropriate for this thread, please post it here or send me a message of where I can find it so that I can do so myself.  Thanks in advance!

Ed
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bart Bradley on October 21, 2012, 09:56:27 PM
The Olde Farm...

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8332/8101392556_3121d82b9b_c.jpg)

Ed:

I never noticed before but it appears that this drawing does not accurately depict 18 and 9.  I have always found 18 a bit awkward and I believe that Bobby Weed has submitted some potential changes for 18 to the club.

Very interesting!

Bart
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on October 22, 2012, 09:22:59 PM
Key West Golf Course [NLE], Key West, FL

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/ScreenShot2012-10-22atMondayOctober22201291947PM.png)

Source: http://www.la84foundation.org/SportsLibrary/GolfIllustrated/1925/gi243i.pdf


Now Key West Golf Club (Rees Jones), Key West, FL

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/ScreenShot2012-10-22atMondayOctober22201292004PM.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on October 22, 2012, 09:52:33 PM
I believe this is Queen's Valley Golf Club, Kew Valley, NY [NLE] / Dev Emmett

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/ScreenShot2012-10-22atMondayOctober22201295047PM.png)

Source: http://www.la84foundation.org/SportsLibrary/GolfIllustrated/1923/gi191c.pdf
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on October 23, 2012, 01:25:58 PM
Country Club of Decatur.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/May29_1929_DecaturHerald.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on October 23, 2012, 01:31:18 PM
Help me out Chicago historians! 

This article from the May 22, 1924 edition of the Southtown Economist shows a proposed club on what appears to be where Midway airport resides!  Wikipedia says 1923 for the beginning of Midway but this article is from 1924.  What gives?!

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/May22_1924_SouthtownEconomist.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on October 23, 2012, 01:35:08 PM
Salt Lake CC (September 18, 1921 edition of the Salt Lake Tribune).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Sept18_1921_SaltLakeTribune.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on October 23, 2012, 01:43:27 PM
Spring Valley CC.  I think this is the one still there as an 18 hole course in Elysia, Ohio.

From the November 26, 1927 edition of the Chronicle-Telegram.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Nov26_1927_ChronicleTelegram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on October 23, 2012, 01:46:30 PM
Sunnyside GC (Decatur, Illinois), from the November 13, 1927 edition of the Decatur Review.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Nov13_1927_DecaturReview.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on October 23, 2012, 02:05:08 PM
Joe:

Nice work there.

The Laramie course is noted as a Harry Collis course from 1924.  Mr. Jemsek of Cog Hill fame began his golf career caddying at Laramie.

I'm guessing that the land that the course sat on was (a) either located just south of the current boundary of the airport or (b) consumed by the airport at some point during one of its expansions.

Sven
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on October 24, 2012, 10:10:27 AM
Hamburg CC (from the June 21, 1293 edition of the Hamburg Reporter, Iowa)

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/June21_1923_HamburgReporter.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on October 24, 2012, 10:12:10 AM
Canterbury (from the June 6, 1940 edition of the Evening Huronite).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/June6_1940_EveningHuronite.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on October 24, 2012, 10:15:43 AM
Tuscarora (from the August 9, 1923 edition of the Syracuse Herald).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Aug9_1923_SyracuseHerald.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on October 24, 2012, 10:19:06 AM
Westward Ho! (from the June 1, 1912 edition of the Daily Mail).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/June1_1912_DailyMail.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on October 24, 2012, 11:11:35 AM
Key West Golf Course [NLE], Key West, FL

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/ScreenShot2012-10-22atMondayOctober22201291947PM.png)

Source: http://www.la84foundation.org/SportsLibrary/GolfIllustrated/1925/gi243i.pdf



Is that an island green (10) and tee (11) in the Gulf of Mexico?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on October 24, 2012, 11:37:53 AM
Dev Emmett's designs continue to impress me. I've not played any of his courses, but on paper they look terrific.

In particular see Queen's Valley Golf Club, Kew Valley, NY [NLE] above.

Thanks for this Joe.

Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on October 25, 2012, 08:20:44 AM
Warrior's Park (from the April 2, 1972 edition of the Kingsport Times News):

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Apr2_1972_KingsportTimesNews.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on October 25, 2012, 08:28:54 AM
Woodstock Club (from the May 1, 1916 edition of the Indianapolis Star):

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/May1_1916_IndyStar.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tim_Cronin on October 26, 2012, 12:10:05 AM
Joe:

Nice work there.

The Laramie course is noted as a Harry Collis course from 1924.  Mr. Jemsek of Cog Hill fame began his golf career caddying at Laramie.

I'm guessing that the land that the course sat on was (a) either located just south of the current boundary of the airport or (b) consumed by the airport at some point during one of its expansions.

Sven

Laramie, later called Chicago Meadows, is under the northwest quarter of Midway Airport. It lasted until the railroad line that once bisected the property, and confined the airport to the southeast quarter, was rerouted. Fifteen holes opened 6/14/1924, the other three later in the year; private 1924-26; public beginning 1927; remained Chicago Meadows 1930; closed 1934.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Cameron DeVries on October 26, 2012, 09:41:39 PM
Mark,

   Yeah #10 at Key West was an island green (which also housed 11 tee).  I recall reading Daniel Wexler's Missing Links a few years back where he profiled Key West.  He describes the 10th as a 90 degree dogleg par four to an island green situated about 25 yards out into the Gulf of Mexico.  However, he also writes that the island was really more of a mangrove clump destined to disintegrate over time (I think the 1926 hurricane just destroyed it quicker)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on October 29, 2012, 01:32:58 PM
Paterson GC, Paterson, NJ (Apr 5, 1896 edition of the NYTimes):

(http://i45.tinypic.com/mc7kwk.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on November 06, 2012, 11:26:42 PM
Rosapenna, care of Donal O'Ceallaigh in this thread...

http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,51551.0.html

(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz169/doceallaigh/Coastguard/RosapennaGolfLinks_Vardon_Layout_19.jpg)

I'm guessing this is the same plan that Donal posted in reply #86, but the image there can no longer be seen.

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark_Rowlinson on November 07, 2012, 10:39:26 AM
Ed, Have a look at Golf Agenda Belgium. There's a good course map of every course in Belgium (ca 80)  http://www.belgiangolfagenda.be/
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Dónal Ó Ceallaigh on November 07, 2012, 01:59:12 PM
Ed,

The link in reply #86 has now been fixed.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 16, 2012, 02:24:52 PM
Whitfield Estates CC, ca.  June, 1925, in Sarasota Fl.  A Donald Ross course now known as Sara Bay CC.
I was looking at the modern routing and it seems pretty much the same as the original. 

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8066/8278797796_431b87b1da_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 20, 2012, 06:31:44 PM
Vassar lay out, ca 1929 - course remains the same today:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8082/8291836437_112542aa12_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Chris Buie on January 24, 2013, 01:37:12 PM
Click on the image to see a larger version.

(http://sandhillsinsider.com/gca/PilmourMain.jpg) (http://sandhillsinsider.com/gca/PilmourMain.jpg)
That one's in Scotland, I think.

(http://sandhillsinsider.com/gca/wpccL.jpg) (http://sandhillsinsider.com/gca/wpccL.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on January 24, 2013, 01:38:41 PM
Palma Ceia

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/Palma%20Ceia/file-1.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 18, 2013, 01:37:21 PM
My apologies for falling behind.  I've finally gotten around to updating the index.  And here is Lushan International Golf Club, courtesy of Lester George...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/ChinaRendering1_zps56d42a75.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 18, 2013, 02:33:06 PM
Bala Golf Club, courtesy of Joe Bausch in this thread... http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,54868.0.html

(http://xchem.villanova.edu/~bausch/images/bala/routing_bala.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Patrick_Mucci on February 18, 2013, 03:37:36 PM
Ed,

This stuff is terrific.

You've got to ask Ran how to incorporate this thread under a more permanent heading, either "Art & Architecture", or "In My Opinion"
but it needs to be preserved, and not allowed to drift away to the back pages.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 18, 2013, 03:42:17 PM
Eastward Ho!, courtesy of Noel Freeman and, more importantly, Bill Healy in this thread... http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,54731.0.html

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/EastwardHoRouting_zpsa1a0e0c1.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Patrick_Mucci on February 18, 2013, 03:49:52 PM
Ed,

What a great find.

I know that area of Paterson very well.

I suspect members of the Paterson GC later became members of Preakness Hills, just up the hill from Paterson in Wayne, NJ
A 1927 Tucker.

(http://i45.tinypic.com/mc7kwk.jpg)


This thread should be preserved in either "Arts and Architecture" or "In My Opionion"  it's too valueable to let it slide to the back pages of the "Discussion Group"
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 18, 2013, 04:03:51 PM
Thanks Pat.  I'm not sure whether this thread fits under those other tabs.  But I will try and remember to run it by Ran when I get a chance.  In the meantime, I would like to encourage others to post maps they find or at least shoot me an IM to alert me to things on other threads.   The odds are I will miss them otherwise.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 18, 2013, 04:22:33 PM
Swinkelsche Golf Club, courtesy of Frank Pont in this thread... http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,54736.0.html

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10772736/Max%20Lounge/Swinkelsche/Strokesaver/Swinkelsche%20Total.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 19, 2013, 10:49:27 PM
Newport Country Club, courtesy of Mike Cirba via Joe Bausch...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/NewportMap_zps66f19347.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jeremy Rudock on February 20, 2013, 09:15:20 AM
Newport Country Club, courtesy of Mike Cirba via Joe Bausch...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/NewportMap_zps66f19347.jpg)


My favorite course anywhere.  Love it.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 20, 2013, 11:25:52 PM
Here are two more of Palmetto Golf Club, courtesy of Mike Cirba...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Palmetto_zpsa9e5cbdb.jpg)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Palmett01918_zps04f0d500.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 22, 2013, 11:12:10 PM
Thanks to Melvyn Morrow for sending me these maps:

The Old Course in 1875...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/PlanoftheGolfCourseoverStAndrewsLinks1875byTHodge001_zps3865917f.jpg)

Troon in 1888...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/TroonGCMap1888001_zpsd37517c9.jpg)

And Biggar Golf Course in 1907...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/BiggarGolfClubMapfromCentenaryBook1995001_zpscc952356.jpg)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 26, 2013, 12:56:49 AM
St. Alban's, courtesy of Jim Kennedy in this thread... http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,54960.0.html

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8511/8505192338_b77ab2e43e_b.jpg)

And Fresh Meadow, also courtesy of Jim Kennedy in this thread... http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,54952.0.html

(http://oi46.tinypic.com/e00uap.jpg)

These maps may be the same ones the Joe Bausch previously posted.  But I can't tell for sure since those images are no longer available.

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 27, 2013, 08:59:53 PM
There's a 1915 diagram of this course that was posted earlier, here's one from 1930:

Dunwoodie - The Yonkers Statesman, July 19, 1930


(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8522/8513794127_ca5f2a308b_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 28, 2013, 09:42:00 PM
Brooklyn Daily Eagle March 1, 1908.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8520/8516652073_611d8088bc_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 01, 2013, 11:14:30 AM
Rochester CC - Rochester Democrat and Chronicle, March 15, 1903
 
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8385/8561622461_7a1a6cc2f7_b.jpg) 
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 02, 2013, 07:09:44 PM
The first golf course of Westhampton CC:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8235/8521958533_583c0eae24_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 03, 2013, 03:43:16 PM
Another view of Mosholu, from The New York Press, May 31, 1914
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8529/8536073859_4faf2e19a1_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 03, 2013, 04:30:18 PM
Victoria GC, Riverside, CA (date unknown)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/newVictoriaGolfCourseRiverside_zps180657a2.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 07, 2013, 04:09:02 PM
Brooklyn Daily Eagle April 3rd 1910

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8528/8537983826_15d2c3e556_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Lester George on March 08, 2013, 02:35:48 PM
Swinkelsche Golf Club, courtesy of Frank Pont

Frank,

Your 11th is very similar to the hole Jeff Blume has on his Taxas A&M Course.  Very nice, but be careful, some on here will debate the merits of such options and question the cost of building such.   

Lester
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 15, 2013, 12:13:21 AM
Brooklyn Daily Eagle April 3rd 1910

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8528/8537983826_15d2c3e556_b.jpg)

That 13th hole at south shore looks like a blast.  Straight over the swimming area.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 15, 2013, 05:19:00 PM
Sven,
Yes, it does, but don't forget your ladder.  ;)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8248/8560870844_d58498262d_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on March 17, 2013, 09:11:01 PM
Alwoodley, courtesy of Sean Arble here... http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,48951.0.html

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff114/seanrobertarble/The%20Alwoodley%20Golf%20Club/MacKenzie1909-10-1TAGCPlan.jpg?t=1310974688)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Chris Buie on March 21, 2013, 08:29:22 AM
Pinehurst No. 1 - 1898

(http://sandhillsinsider.com/1essay/images/1898L.jpg) (http://sandhillsinsider.com/1essay/images/1898L.jpg)

Pinehurst No. 1 - 1899
(http://sandhillsinsider.com/1essay/images/1899L.jpg) (http://sandhillsinsider.com/1essay/images/1899L.jpg)

The images enlarge when you click on them.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 28, 2013, 09:06:22 PM
Some early Chicago courses, all from c. 1901-1902:

Newspaper GC aka Tecumseh GC (also known as the Harlem Jockey Club, course by J. Foulis):
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/NewspaperGC_zpsbc3eebb0.png)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/TecumsehGC_zpsad05dbb4.png)

Washington Park Club:

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/WashingtonPark_zps69ff3b33.png)

Wheaton GC:

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Wheaton_zpsb5282c06.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bill_McBride on March 28, 2013, 10:38:02 PM
Alwoodley, courtesy of Sean Arble here... http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,48951.0.html

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff114/seanrobertarble/The%20Alwoodley%20Golf%20Club/MacKenzie1909-10-1TAGCPlan.jpg?t=1310974688)

I played Alwoodley in July 2005 with my wife, en route to St Andrews for the Open.  After a very pleasant match with club historian Nick Leefe and his wife, we had lunch on the terrace.  Nick suddenly jumped up and went out to the car park.  A couple of minutes later he returned with the ORIGINAL of this drawing of Alwoodley by Mackenzie, with his handwritten notes and all.  I remember thinking, wow, I hope he doesn't have an accident and destroy that prize!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on April 02, 2013, 07:01:15 PM
Brighton & Hove Ladies’ Golf Club

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8258/8614074871_927464cfc9_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Patrick_Mucci on April 02, 2013, 09:37:22 PM
Ed Oden,

You've got to get this thread memorialized in one of other categories, such as "In My Opinion", it's too valuable to let slide into obscurity in the "Discussion Group" category.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on April 02, 2013, 09:42:03 PM
Travis' original drawing for Misquamicut Club, courtesy of Misquamicut and Anthony Pioppi in this thread... http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,55320.0.html

(http://sat.gmncdn.com/Blogs/anthonypioppi/files/2013/03/Misquamicut-Travis-198x300.jpg)


Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on April 02, 2013, 10:07:46 PM
Ed Oden,

You've got to get this thread memorialized in one of other categories, such as "In My Opinion", it's too valuable to let slide into obscurity in the "Discussion Group" category.

Thanks Pat.  I passed your request along to Ran.  I'm not sure I can do anything more than that.

Ed
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on April 07, 2013, 12:28:18 AM
Many thanks to Anthony Pioppi for contributing the following:

Farmington Avenue Golf Club, Hartford, CT, 1901...
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/FARMINGTONAVENUELINKS3_1_zps0ad1e59f.jpg?t=1365304109)

Farmington Country Club, Hartford, CT, 1921...
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/FARMINGTONCCPLANS1921_1_zpsb1bd1209.jpg)

Links at Miami...
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/LinksatMiami_zpsa0acd96f.jpg)

Links at Ormond...
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/LinksatOrmond_zps73da8958.jpg)

Links at St. Augustine...
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/LinksatStAugustine_zps583b1aae.jpg)

New Haven Golf Club (NLE)...
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/NewHavenGolfClub1899_1_zpsd89e35f4.jpg)

Norwich Golf Club...
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/NorwichGolfClub1926_zps73c3ad3d.gif)

Tekoa Country Club, Westfield, MA...
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Tekoa_zpsa77b41b9.jpg)

Winnapaug Country Club, Westerly, RI...
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Winnapaug-Courant7_30_1931_zpsf82bdb4a.jpg)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on April 30, 2013, 12:00:26 AM
Many thanks to Melvyn Morrow for his continuing contributions to this thread.  Here are his latest submissions:

New Monifieth Golf Club 23.11.1897 Dundee Courier...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/TheNewMonifiethGC23111897DundeeCourier001_zps564e88c2.jpg)

Harrogate Golf Club 30.04.1898  Yorkshire Evening Post...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/HarrogateGC30041898YorkshireEveningPostP1001_zps4c3f49b0.jpg)

Falkland Golf Course 13.05.1902 Evening Post...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/FalklandGCNewcourse13051902EveningPost001_zpsd3e3aad7.jpg)

Dornock Golf Course (near Crieff) modifications by OTM, now closed...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/DornockGCnrCrieffmodsbyOTMnowclosed001_zps75765430.jpg)

Crieff Golf Club 13.07.1891 Edinburgh Evening News...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/CrieffGC13071891CoursemovedEdinburghEveningNews001_zpsd5c6008f.jpg)

Carnoustie 8.05.1890  Dundee Advertiser...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/CarnoustieGC8051890DundeeAdvertiser001_zps4e2545ad.jpg)

Burntisland Golf Club 16.05.1891 Edinburgh Evening News...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/BurntislandGC16051891EdinburghEveningNews001_zps3012f8f2.jpg)

Bruntsfield Golfing Society's Park design course  25.05.1898...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/BruntsfieldGolfingSocietysParksdesignCourse25051898001_zps3d53b73d.jpg)

Bridge of Allan Golf Club 28.12.1895...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/BridgeofAllanGC28121895P1001_zpse8b7ee07.jpg)

Blair Atholl Golf Club  2.07.1896  Dundee Courier...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/BlairAthollGC2071896DundeeCourierP1001_zps741ae43d.jpg)

Alyth Golf Club 20.09.1894...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/AlythGCOpeningCourse20091894P4001_zpscf538947.jpg)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on July 09, 2013, 04:16:38 PM
Chicago Golf Club (July 1905 issue of Golfers Magazine):

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/July_1905_GolfersMagazine.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on July 10, 2013, 05:19:17 PM
Joe's new post has guilted me into following up on a number of maps that I've had for awhile.  Thanks to Melvyn Morrow again for his these offerings:

Pitlochry GC New Course 20 3 1908 Dundee Courier...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/PitlochryGCNewCourse2031908DundeeCourierP1001_zps17fcce53.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/PitlochryGCNewCourse2031908DundeeCourierP1001_zps17fcce53.jpg.html)

Musselburgh GC Extension 23 03 1895 Edin  Evening News...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/MusselburghGCExtension23031895EdinEveningNewsP1001_zps80dd7da0.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/MusselburghGCExtension23031895EdinEveningNewsP1001_zps80dd7da0.jpg.html)

Aberfeldy GC 20 07 1912 Dundee Courier Course Extension...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/AberfeldyGC20071912DundeeCourierCourseExtensionP1001_zps0971704f.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/AberfeldyGC20071912DundeeCourierCourseExtensionP1001_zps0971704f.jpg.html)

Leslie GC 1 04 1898 New Course  Dundee Courier...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/LeslieGC1041898NewCourseDundeeCourierP1001_zps11c493fb.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/LeslieGC1041898NewCourseDundeeCourierP1001_zps11c493fb.jpg.html)

Kinghorn GC New Course 23 03 1904 Edin Evening News...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/KinghornGCNewCourse23031904EdinEveningNewsP1001_zps9702329c.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/KinghornGCNewCourse23031904EdinEveningNewsP1001_zps9702329c.jpg.html)

Panmure GC Barry Course 29 03 1899 Dundee Courier...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/PanmureGCBarryCourse29031899DundeeCourier001_zpsd2d5c820.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/PanmureGCBarryCourse29031899DundeeCourier001_zpsd2d5c820.jpg.html)

Kirriemuir GC New Course 24 4 1909 Dundee Courier...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/KirriemuirGcNewCourse2441909DundeeCourier001_zpsa51496af.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/KirriemuirGcNewCourse2441909DundeeCourier001_zpsa51496af.jpg.html)

Glencorse GC Was Rosslynlee GC 27 04 1895...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/GlencorseGCWasRosslynleeGC27041895001_zps538c163b.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/GlencorseGCWasRosslynleeGC27041895001_zps538c163b.jpg.html)

Carnoustie GC Two New Courses 24 06 1914 Dundee Courier...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/CarnoustieGCTwoNewCourses24061914DundeeCourierP1001_zpsc226e2f8.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/CarnoustieGCTwoNewCourses24061914DundeeCourierP1001_zpsc226e2f8.jpg.html)

Baberton GC  Extension 15 10 1898  Edinburgh Evening News...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/BabertonGCExtension15101898EdinburghEveningNewsP1001_zps0f1c9b82.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/BabertonGCExtension15101898EdinburghEveningNewsP1001_zps0f1c9b82.jpg.html)

Civil Service GC Rosslynlee Course 4 06 1895...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/CivilServiceGCRosslynleeCourse4061895001_zps588dee3d.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/CivilServiceGCRosslynleeCourse4061895001_zps588dee3d.jpg.html)

Braid Hills GC  New Course 22 09 1893 Edin  Evening News...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/BraidHillsGCNewCourse22091893EdinEveningNews001_zps8a005f07.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/BraidHillsGCNewCourse22091893EdinEveningNews001_zps8a005f07.jpg.html)

Dunfermline GC New Course 5 05 1894...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/DunfermlineGCNewCourse5051894001_zps66501e3f.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/DunfermlineGCNewCourse5051894001_zps66501e3f.jpg.html)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on July 10, 2013, 05:27:28 PM
And this one of Pepper Pike Club, courtesy of Lester George...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/PepperPikeClubAugust261924BWRouting_zps6d8f6ef6.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/PepperPikeClubAugust261924BWRouting_zps6d8f6ef6.jpg.html)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on August 12, 2013, 05:56:57 PM
Niagara on the Lake:

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/file_zps85161bc5.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/SaltyLaw/media/file_zps85161bc5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mac Plumart on September 01, 2013, 09:45:33 AM
Lido

(http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu239/mplumart/Lido_zps55df926e.jpg) (http://s651.photobucket.com/user/mplumart/media/Lido_zps55df926e.jpg.html)


Links Club

(http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu239/mplumart/LinksGolfClub_zpse21c00ea.jpg) (http://s651.photobucket.com/user/mplumart/media/LinksGolfClub_zpse21c00ea.jpg.html)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on September 04, 2013, 02:49:23 PM
Buffalonians were exceptionally proud of their new Meadow Links golf course when it was rebuilt in 1916. The addition of the new 9 holes prompted one reporter to proclaim that it now was "the rival of Baltusrol and Garden City".  

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7346/9675068756_002a1d948a_z.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 01, 2013, 04:42:49 PM
South Shore CC, Hamburg NY  - Wayne Stiles, Arch.
Buffalo Courier - Sunday, March 16, 1924

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3753/10615010385_67916c4abd_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Homsey on November 03, 2013, 12:41:02 PM
(http://travissociety.com/who-was-travis/golf-course-architect/travis-course-drawings/#jp-carousel-518)

Walter J. Travis 1921 layout for Stafford Country Club, Stafford, NY
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on November 03, 2013, 12:49:55 PM
(http://travissociety.com/who-was-travis/golf-course-architect/travis-course-drawings/#jp-carousel-518)

Walter J. Travis 1921 layout for Stafford Country Club, Stafford, NY

I think this is what you want Ed!

(http://walterjtravissociety.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/1921-scc-course-map.jpg?w=700&h=)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 03, 2013, 12:52:58 PM
Ed,
Click on the photo at your site that you want to post and when it comes up in the carousel window just right click on it, copy the URL, paste it in the reply, and bracket it using the img.  
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Homsey on November 03, 2013, 01:19:13 PM
(http://walterjtravissociety.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/1921-scc-course-map.jpg?w=700&h=)

Stafford Country Club, Stafford, NY  1921 Travis layout
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Homsey on November 03, 2013, 01:27:32 PM
(http://walterjtravissociety.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/walter-j-travis-original-layout-for-cc-of-scranton-compressed.jpg?w=370&h=)

Country Club of Scranton 1925 Travis layout
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Homsey on November 03, 2013, 01:29:51 PM
(http://walterjtravissociety.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/walter-j-travis-original-layout-for-cc-of-troy-1926-compressed.jpg?w=700&h=)

Country Club of Troy, 1926 Travis layout

Many thanks to Jim Kennedy for his assistance in posting this, and the previous layouts.  You can teach old dogs new tricks!

Ed
www.travissociety.com
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 03, 2013, 01:45:38 PM
You're on a roll now Ed!!  ;D
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 03, 2013, 02:03:26 PM
Apologize if any of these are duplicates (let me know if they are and I'll delete them).

Nassau Golf Links:
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/NassauGolfLinksFL_zpsb2561486.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/snilsen7/media/NassauGolfLinksFL_zpsb2561486.jpg.html)

Miami Golf Links:
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/95MiamiGolfLinks_zpsd9a672f2.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/snilsen7/media/95MiamiGolfLinks_zpsd9a672f2.jpg.html)

California Golf Club (1923):
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/CalClub-192304_zpsa2a9fcb8.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/snilsen7/media/CalClub-192304_zpsa2a9fcb8.jpg.html)

SFGC (Lock Routing - 1918):
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/SFGCLockRouting1918_zps9534fe96.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/snilsen7/media/SFGCLockRouting1918_zps9534fe96.jpg.html)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 03, 2013, 02:07:19 PM
More.

New Coronado Golf Links:

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Coronado_zpsa45b3e8b.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/snilsen7/media/Coronado_zpsa45b3e8b.jpg.html)

Olympic Club:

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Olympic-192304_zps209b142b.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/snilsen7/media/Olympic-192304_zps209b142b.jpg.html)

Lake Merced:

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Lake-Merced-GCC-192304_zpsbe27a002.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/snilsen7/media/Lake-Merced-GCC-192304_zpsbe27a002.jpg.html)

San Francisco G&CC:

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/SFGC-192304_zps76893351.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/snilsen7/media/SFGC-192304_zps76893351.jpg.html)

Lincoln Park:

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Lake-Merced-Muni-192304_zps0f414d9e.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/snilsen7/media/Lake-Merced-Muni-192304_zps0f414d9e.jpg.html)

Map of Golf Courses in the San Francisco area:

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/SF-Map-192304_zpsd6b75dc8.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/snilsen7/media/SF-Map-192304_zpsd6b75dc8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 03, 2013, 02:10:25 PM
Another look at the New Haven GC:

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/NHGC_zps6f945d91.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/snilsen7/media/NHGC_zps6f945d91.jpg.html)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Homsey on November 03, 2013, 02:44:03 PM
(http://walterjtravissociety.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/original-ygc-travis-layout472.jpg?w=700&h=)

Travis course map for 27 holes at Yahnundasis Golf Club.  There was to be an 18-hole championship course and a 9-hole executive course.  Initially, 11 holes were built from the Travis plan, and combined with holes from a previous course.  In 1931, the Travis layout was completed.  The land intended for the 9-hole course was used for a practice range.


(http://walterjtravissociety.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/1923-travis-layout-of-kirkwood-links701.jpg?w=700&h=)

Travis 1923 course layout for Kirkwood Links (currently known as Camden Country Club)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on November 03, 2013, 02:51:25 PM
(http://walterjtravissociety.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/1921-scc-course-map.jpg?w=700&h=)

Stafford Country Club, Stafford, NY  1921 Travis layout

Ed, looks like routing is intact except for moving the 18th green?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: David_Tepper on November 03, 2013, 03:37:58 PM
Sven -

Thanks for posting the routing maps of all the San Francisco courses. Have you come across one for the Presidio?

DT
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 03, 2013, 03:51:20 PM
David:

No such luck.  These are all taken from the San Francisco Water article that DM posted about (and included all of these routings) in the thread found here:  http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?topic=52007.0

Sven
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on November 03, 2013, 09:33:00 PM
Rackham

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/DSCN2182_zpsb033de20.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/SaltyLaw/media/DSCN2182_zpsb033de20.jpg.html)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 04, 2013, 11:10:30 AM
In response to several of the routing maps I posted yesterday, Phil Young reached out to me with some additional information, more maps and a great deal of clarification.  

The first item he passed along is the original routing map for the Presidio:

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Presidiorouting_zpsd0dec9e1.png) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/snilsen7/media/Presidiorouting_zpsd0dec9e1.png.html)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 04, 2013, 11:16:55 AM
Next, a couple of images of the original SFGC "Old Ingleside" layout:

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/OldIngelsideSFGC_zpsb5e6acf5.png) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/snilsen7/media/OldIngelsideSFGC_zpsb5e6acf5.png.html)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/OldInglesidePrint_zpsd19758eb.png) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/snilsen7/media/OldInglesidePrint_zpsd19758eb.png.html)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 04, 2013, 11:20:47 AM
Another of Old Ingleside:

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/OldInglesideSurvey_zpsa7b00537.png) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/snilsen7/media/OldInglesideSurvey_zpsa7b00537.png.html)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 04, 2013, 11:25:40 AM
Here is the Locke routing posted above as contained in the January 1918 SF Examiner.  Per Phil Young: "Although Locke drew that for the newspaper, the routing of the course, was done by a committee of three SFGC members. It was laid out by them and constructed under their control. Locke was hired as the Club's professional in August 1917 and was given the responsibility of bunkering the back nine. That is all he did."

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/SFGCLockeArticle_zps1067db07.png) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/snilsen7/media/SFGCLockeArticle_zps1067db07.png.html)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 04, 2013, 11:32:31 AM
Further, from Phil:

"In your post #555, you show the drawing that for redesigning the members course. The problem is that this course wasn't built and, in fact, isn't the actual plan that was drawn and designed by Tillinghast and that the club's members approved the last week of 1920. The difference between tis drawing and the original Tillinghast drawing is that this one, found in the April 1923 brochure put out by the Spring Valley Water Co. has the nines numbered backward. The original Tillinghast plan called for these nines to be reversed. The reason why this drawing has that mistake is because the Water Co. only had the drawing of the course that hadn't been built. They received a full set of original construction drawings when Punnet & Parez, the engineers who drew the plans, gave them to them. They did this because, at that time, it was still their property and they arranged for P&P to do the surveying of the property creating elevation drawings upon which Tillinghast could use to design the course. When they did the 1923 booklet, they changed the hole numbers on both nines as that reflected how the existing new members-redesigned course was being played."
 

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/SFGCOrigTillie_zpsfa74d7e6.png) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/snilsen7/media/SFGCOrigTillie_zpsfa74d7e6.png.html)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/SFGCOrigTillie2_zpsf00fa73a.png) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/snilsen7/media/SFGCOrigTillie2_zpsf00fa73a.png.html)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 04, 2013, 11:36:39 AM
And with respect to the design of the current course:

"After the plan was approved, construction began in earnest in mid-February 1920. In March it was halted because the Water Co. now insisted that SFGC, which to this point was leasing the land, buy it. It would take until the beginning of 1922 for this to take place. At that time, Roger Lapham, who had brought Tilly out for the original design, was on the East coast overseeing the planning and running of that year's U.S. Open. While he was gone, a group of strong-minded and influential members convinced the Board to let them redesign the course and build it as this would save a great deal of money that they didn't have at the moment. After this redesign failed, Tillinghast was brought back out in March 1924. It was at that time that the current course was designed and built. It opened for play at the beginning of 1925."

The history of evolution of SFGC is covered in a Tillinghast Illustrated piece from the Tillinghast Association that can be found here:  

http://www.tillinghast.net/Tillinghast/Tillinghast_Illustrated_files/TIfor%20web.pdf

As Phil noted, all of this is covered in great detail in the soon to be printed San Francisco Golf Club club history that he has just finished.

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 08, 2013, 12:52:47 PM
This map had been posted earlier on this thread by John Foley. I'm reposting it as a couple of the holes were lost to a reflection on the glass.
This version came from architect Barry Jordan's website, where you can also find a couple of old photos of Teugaga and some photos of their restoration work ( I imagine DR. Klein had a hand in it as he's listed as part of their team, focusing on "historical analysis for existing courses, and creative collaboration and analysis on new designs." )

Mark Chalfant recently toured the course and thought it was fantastic.

http://www.jordangolfdesign.com/historic-restorations.html


(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7309/10745292433_e9330db241_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Homsey on November 09, 2013, 11:27:06 AM
Responding to Mark Saltzman's post on Nov. 4th regarding the Stafford CC routing:  The nines are reversed from Travis's original drawing (which is true of several of his courses); as you point out, the current 18th green was moved in the late '50s or early 60s (much to the consternation of many current members); the current par-3 8th hole was a 278 yard par 4 originally; and, the original map shows the current par-3 4th hole tee box behind the 14th green rather than to the left of the 14th green as it currently exists (I suspect they discovered that there was not sufficient room to put the tee behind the 14th green).
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on December 15, 2013, 01:33:03 AM
Sorry for letting things slip on this thread.  I've updated the index for postings over the last few months.

Here is a 1913 map of The Country Club in Brookline, courtesy of Melvin Morrow...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/CountryClubCourseBrooklineAberdeenJourn19091913001_zps196c7fb8.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/CountryClubCourseBrooklineAberdeenJourn19091913001_zps196c7fb8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on December 15, 2013, 01:42:09 AM
The next few posts are all things I've stumbled across on eBay over the last few months.

First up is a fantastic 1936 map of Toluca Lake that included Lakeside Golf Club...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/LakesideMap_zpsd43b652d.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/LakesideMap_zpsd43b652d.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/LakesideMap11_zpseebdbe7e.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/LakesideMap11_zpseebdbe7e.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/LakesideMap9_zpscd96c4f4.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/LakesideMap9_zpscd96c4f4.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/LakesideMap10_zps89956679.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/LakesideMap10_zps89956679.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/LakesideMap8_zpsd31ec198.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/LakesideMap8_zpsd31ec198.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/LakesideMap7_zps90a0d356.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/LakesideMap7_zps90a0d356.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/LakesideMap6_zps90a1e01d.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/LakesideMap6_zps90a1e01d.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/LakesideMap2_zps419b5034.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/LakesideMap2_zps419b5034.jpg.html)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on December 15, 2013, 01:45:05 AM
Tam O'Shanter Country Club from the club's 1941 history book...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/TamOShanter1941_zpscba8e0e4.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/TamOShanter1941_zpscba8e0e4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on December 15, 2013, 01:48:15 AM
A truly stunning plan of Gleneagles...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Gleneagles22_zps8b969e77.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/Gleneagles22_zps8b969e77.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/Gleneagles2_zpsfc92a512.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/Gleneagles2_zpsfc92a512.jpg.html)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on December 15, 2013, 01:53:46 AM
Next up are a couple of drawings of Augusta National in the 1932 Annual Golf Review Illustrated.

The 5th hole (originally the 14th hole)...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/ANGC1932_zps31f4285b.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/ANGC1932_zps31f4285b.jpg.html)


...and the 12th and 13th holes (originally the 3rd and 4th holes)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/ANGC19322_zps815bbd50.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/ANGC19322_zps815bbd50.jpg.html)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on December 15, 2013, 02:06:18 AM
Finally, 1969 plans for an 18-hole par 3 course in West Richfield, Ohio which, if I'm not mistaken, is the Old Pine Golf Course that has since been converted to a longer 9-holes course...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/WestRichfieldOhio_zpsf7b8638b.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/WestRichfieldOhio_zpsf7b8638b.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/WestRichfieldOhio3_zps9415b899.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/WestRichfieldOhio3_zps9415b899.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/WestRichfieldOhio11_zpse381c5b4.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/WestRichfieldOhio11_zpse381c5b4.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/WestRichfieldOhio2_zpsea85fe0a.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/WestRichfieldOhio2_zpsea85fe0a.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/WestRichfieldOhio5_zps30b5f60f.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/WestRichfieldOhio5_zps30b5f60f.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/WestRichfieldOhio9_zps34ee2898.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/WestRichfieldOhio9_zps34ee2898.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/WestRichfieldOhio4_zps24a77797.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/WestRichfieldOhio4_zps24a77797.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/WestRichfieldOhio8_zpsa6ff43ef.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/WestRichfieldOhio8_zpsa6ff43ef.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/WestRichfieldOhio6_zps0b5c6a37.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/WestRichfieldOhio6_zps0b5c6a37.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/WestRichfieldOhio10_zpsdfd75f0c.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/WestRichfieldOhio10_zpsdfd75f0c.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/WestRichfieldOhio7_zps52792a4a.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/WestRichfieldOhio7_zps52792a4a.jpg.html)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 17, 2013, 12:14:29 PM
Adding in the Colt plans for Bloomfield Hills provided by Phil Young.

"I've attached a photo of the 1924 plan hanging in the 2nd floor hallway of the clubhouse. It was used by a sprinkler company to verlay a design for an automatic sprinkler system. What no one realized is that it was actually a copy of the Colt design drawing."

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/bhcc_zps90b539f4.jpg) (http://s1211.photobucket.com/user/snilsen7/media/bhcc_zps90b539f4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 10, 2014, 05:23:26 PM
Use the link if you'd like to enlarge this map.
 
http://tinyurl.com/kts3qv3

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 12, 2014, 05:14:17 PM
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3728/12487508695_576ea6936b_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 12, 2014, 05:34:43 PM
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3716/12488246814_4de572dc81_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 12, 2014, 05:47:51 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 12, 2014, 08:51:36 PM
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2855/12490458683_01f1d4b5ff_b.jpg)


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 12, 2014, 08:58:20 PM
Didn't know whether to post his here or on the recent thread about courses impacted by road crossings.  :)

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 14, 2014, 03:15:29 PM
Highland was in CT.
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5505/12526433303_3e478c155e_b.jpg)

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 14, 2014, 03:44:27 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Patrick_Mucci on February 15, 2014, 11:38:12 AM
RAN

This is an invaluable thread.

Please figure a way to make it one of your categories, like "in my opinion" and "courses by country"

THANKS
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 15, 2014, 12:08:10 PM
RAN

This is an invaluable thread.

Please figure a way to make it one of your categories, like "in my opinion" and "courses by country"

THANKS

[/quote

That's a good idea Pat.

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 15, 2014, 12:23:48 PM
I wonder why there were so many road crossings on some of these early 20th century courses? - there was more raw land available 110 years ago.
 
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Patrick_Mucci on February 15, 2014, 06:19:19 PM
Jim,

That's an interesting question.

I think the answer may lie in golf's earlier life in the U.K.

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 15, 2014, 06:40:57 PM
This course up in Norman Rockwell land remains on the same piece of property although the routing has changed. For instance, #11 on the map is today's #1, now a dogleg left. The 18th green is in a similar location, but the tee is next to the old #1 green. That site is now the 17th green. There are some others as well.
 
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 15, 2014, 06:50:17 PM
Jim,

That's an interesting question.

I think the answer may lie in golf's earlier life in the U.K.



That, and I'd guess lots of the roads were dirt with a low car count. 
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Patrick_Mucci on February 15, 2014, 09:25:59 PM
Jim,

Because golf was in it's infancy, I don't think that roads were viewed as an impediment or negative.
I think that they were just accepted.

Look at some of the early courses like NLGA, Shinnecock, Westhampton, Southampton and GCGC, they all had roads going through them.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 17, 2014, 02:50:15 PM
As Mike Cirba reminded me in an email:

"During the earliest years of golf in the US, roadways were treated as hazards under the rules of golf.
When Richard Francis wrote in 1950 that they thought the road (Ardmore Avenue) would make a good hazard, he was being quite literal."


Seems like a good point to add.

A couple more, w/roads.  :)
 
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 18, 2014, 07:57:47 AM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 20, 2014, 09:17:37 PM
Mark,
Here's one for you.  ;)

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 25, 2014, 12:32:48 AM
Jim, thanks for all of your contributions!  I have updated the index.  Was the Walnut Cliff course for Columbus CC in Columbus, OH.  Similarly, is Westchester GC in Westchester, MA?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on February 25, 2014, 12:50:07 AM
Royal Wellington Golf Club, Hutt, New Zealand

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on February 25, 2014, 12:50:36 AM
Newcastle Golf Club, Newcastle, Australia

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on February 25, 2014, 12:51:33 AM
Arikikapakapa Golf Course, Rotorua, New Zealand

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Saltzman on February 25, 2014, 12:52:32 AM
Paraparaumu Beach Golf Club, Paraparaumu Beach, New Zealand

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 25, 2014, 12:17:44 PM
Thanks to Melvyn Morrow for the following maps of Muirfield.  Many of these have been posted previously on this thread, but I am doing so again since they are higher quality images...

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 25, 2014, 03:17:41 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 25, 2014, 06:21:54 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 25, 2014, 08:01:02 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 25, 2014, 08:05:34 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 25, 2014, 08:08:59 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 26, 2014, 09:58:17 PM
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And what part of it looked like:

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 26, 2014, 10:20:39 PM
 Castillo De San Marcos - AKA Fort Marion

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Playing at Castillo De San Marcos - ca. 1902

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 26, 2014, 10:48:59 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 26, 2014, 11:39:45 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on February 27, 2014, 08:12:01 AM
Jim -

It's striking how often roads and race tracks were used as cross hazards on courses circa 1900.

Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 27, 2014, 11:36:45 AM
Bob,

It truly is.

We talked about it a bit a couple of pages back and Pat Mucci thought the answer may lie in golf's earlier life in the U.K. and that roads weren't viewed as a negative when golf was in its infancy here. Mike Cirba wrote to say that roads were hazards back then and it was thought by some that they made good ones. I was wondering why, when so much land was available, clubs used parcels that were criss-crossed by roads.

Now I tend to believe that a combination of the above is the reason, and that clubs just used what land was easily and cheaply available to them, with a few dirt road hazards thrown in for free.     
 
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 02, 2014, 04:31:21 PM
Click on the photo twice for big version
 
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 03, 2014, 08:26:57 PM
The photo and complete text can be found here:
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030272/1898-02-20/ed-1/seq-4.pdf

Click twice for big

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 07, 2014, 12:36:52 PM
Click twice for BIG

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 07, 2014, 01:08:44 PM
Click twice for BIG

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 07, 2014, 07:29:58 PM
This lay-out appeared in The San Francisco Call -  Dec. 22 1895. No name was given for the soon-to-be course, but its location, west of the Presidio, would put it in the area of Lincoln Park? Perhaps an early rendering of what was to be SFGC.
 
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 07, 2014, 07:46:34 PM
Jim:

I'm guessing that's the original SFGC, which became Presidio GC.  The name of the artist of the sketch, J. Hardy, is very close to the name of one of the guys who laid out the course, J. Harvey.

The reference to west of the Presidio probably just means that it was west of the location of the barracks and other base buildings, which could mean it was still within the bounds of what we consider the Presidio today.  I don't know enough about San Francisco history to know what that land was used for back then, or if it was considered part of the base or not.

Sven
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 07, 2014, 07:52:39 PM
Jim:

I'm guessing that's the original SFGC, which became Presidio GC.  The name of the artist of the sketch, J. Hardy, is very close to the name of one of the guys who laid out the course, J. Harvey.

The reference to west of the Presidio probably just means that it was west of the location of the barracks and other base buildings, which could mean it was still within the bounds of what we consider the Presidio today.  I don't know enough about San Francisco history to know what that land was used for back then, or if it was considered part of the base or not.

Sven

Thanks Sven
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 08, 2014, 01:33:34 PM
Walla Walla CC:

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 08, 2014, 01:45:39 PM
New Orleans, 1900 - this is the course that became City Park GC o/k/a New Orleans GC.  The 1900 date for the map, if correct, suggests the course predates the 1902 date noted in New Orleans' history of its parks (note the designation of existing and new holes).

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 10, 2014, 12:48:01 PM
Monte Carlo:

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 17, 2014, 10:17:40 AM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 17, 2014, 11:17:26 AM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 17, 2014, 11:29:53 AM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 17, 2014, 12:49:26 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 17, 2014, 07:33:00 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Rick Shefchik on March 23, 2014, 02:18:04 PM
Might as well post Ralph Barton's 9-hole Hanover Country Club plan here, too. It was built in 1932, and was converted to a practice area in 1970:

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: John Foley on April 07, 2014, 10:41:39 AM
In honor of masters week thought I would take a photo of of an Augusta rendering I was given by one of the principals at the old In Celebration of Golf stores in Scottsdale

Not sure who drew it or the date - hope you enjoy

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on June 29, 2014, 05:28:56 AM
Pinehurst #1 + 9 hole course (Nov 15, 1901 Pinehurst Outlook):

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on September 25, 2014, 12:00:20 PM
There are a couple of Dyker plans posted here by Joe Bausch - one from '29 and one from '31. This one's a bit earlier.

Sharing the page w/the Dyker sketch is one of the 13th at Muirfield as it 'looked' when Jess Sweetser won the British amateur in '26.

  http://tinyurl.com/mwxvqrg

 
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on September 25, 2014, 12:08:37 PM
...and even though it's not a map or plan, here's a '29 photo of PB's 1st green.

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: abmack on September 25, 2014, 01:59:05 PM
Here a picture of Dick Wilson's original plan for the new Deepdale GC in Manhassett, NY

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The course has barely changed at all since the 50's when Wilson finished building it.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on September 26, 2014, 12:07:30 PM
Staten Island Cricket and Base Ball Club

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on September 26, 2014, 12:20:01 PM
Colonia CC -Rahway NJ 1899

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Brookyln Daily Eagle   
http://tinyurl.com/mnxoj4u
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on October 06, 2014, 03:45:36 PM
Layout of the Seth Raynor holes - 1922 - courtesy of the Leslie D. Manning Archives of the Taft School.

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Rick Shefchik on October 06, 2014, 06:37:05 PM
I posted this in the thread about St. Paul's Town & Country Club, but I'll post it here, too -- the first known routing map of Minnesota's first golf course, from the St. Paul Globe in 1896:

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on October 10, 2014, 04:43:02 PM
Galveston CC (now NLE, I think; a Donald Ross) from the Nov 9, 1919 edition of the Galveston Daily News:

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: ANTHONYPIOPPI on October 10, 2014, 10:30:48 PM
Joe:

That drawing looks like it was done by an architect or someone in the business. Does it look like the work of Walter Hatch or McGovern or others who worked with Ross?

Anthony

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on October 11, 2014, 03:23:27 AM
Joe:

That drawing looks like it was done by an architect or someone in the business. Does it look like the work of Walter Hatch or McGovern or others who worked with Ross?

Anthony


The person who oversaw the construction was a Ross guy Charles Harris.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: JBovay on October 20, 2014, 11:11:35 PM
The Chevy Chase Club, Chevy Chase, MD. This is from a history of the club through 1957 that I found at a used bookstore. (I did not take it home with me, as there were only about 10 pages on golf and I haven't played the course.)

The course's original 9 holes are diagrammed very faintly with white dotted lines on the east (bottom) half of the property. The original 18 hole course is diagrammed with the darker lines and hole numbers. Finally, the 1922 Colt/Alison course, as it appeared in 1957, is portrayed in the background with green numbers.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-M2kmCSC4wwc/VEXMHecZbZI/AAAAAAAAJOc/917Vi_UJQng/s800/IMG_1911.jpg)

If anyone is interested in clarification on the routing of the original 9, I am happy to provide it.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on October 24, 2014, 04:46:37 PM
Savannah GC at the DeSoto Hotel -ca. 1919

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on October 30, 2014, 02:24:02 PM
A different version of the New Haven (CT.) CC - this time from 1900:

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 08, 2014, 02:48:06 PM
Langford & Moreau

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 17, 2014, 04:57:15 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 28, 2014, 04:44:52 PM
Plan of the Detroit Golf Club taken from the December 1904 edition of Golfers Magazine.

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 28, 2014, 04:48:53 PM
Houston Golf Club (Feb. 1905 Golfers Magazine) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Houston2-GolfersMagazineFeb1905_zps0716c8ef.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 28, 2014, 04:55:07 PM
Beaumont Golf Club (Dec. 1904 Golfers Magazine) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Beaumont-GolfersMagazineDec1904_zps6721411b.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 28, 2014, 04:58:14 PM
Augusta CC (Dec. 1904 Golfers Magazine) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Augusta-GolfersMagazineDec1904_zpsce1b9361.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 28, 2014, 05:02:16 PM
Salt Lake City Country Club (Feb. 1905 Golfers Magazine) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/SaltLake3-GolfersMagazineFeb1905_zpsff957573.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 28, 2014, 05:05:23 PM
Sarasota GC (April 1905 Golfers Magazine) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Sarasota-GolfersMagazineApril1905_zps1496d73c.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 28, 2014, 05:07:31 PM
Town and Country (June 1907 Golfers Magazine) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/TownandCountry-GolfersMagazineJune1907_zpsebc98ced.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 28, 2014, 05:10:58 PM
Swannanoa (aka Asheville CC) (Dec. 1904 Golfers Magazine) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Swannanoa-GolfersMagazineDec1904_zps30ae30f7.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 28, 2014, 05:18:28 PM
Baltusrol (same plan appeared in the May, July and October 1904 editions of Golfers Magazine) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Baltusrol-GolfersMagazineJuly1904_zpse3774076.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 28, 2014, 05:20:41 PM
Beverly (Golfers Magazine 1908) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/BeverlyPlan-GolfersMagazine1908_zpsc983a239.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 02, 2014, 10:42:53 AM
The author pleading for a course on the south end of Walney Island:

http://tinyurl.com/mm4ussx

A report by Harry Vardon on his proposed layout:

http://tinyurl.com/q4xd5h5

A larger map of the course:

http://tinyurl.com/ppxnus3

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7553/15745324307_295e8ba288_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 04, 2014, 04:18:25 PM
Found this in my email today, from Bret Lawrence:

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8680/15947818245_c24829a354_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tim_Cronin on December 05, 2014, 09:30:33 PM
Beverly (Golfers Magazine 1908) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/BeverlyPlan-GolfersMagazine1908_zpsc983a239.png)

This is the original George O'Neil routing, about a decade before Ross came by. You can still see vestiges of the green pad for the original par 3 second behind the current second tee. Some of the land Ross used was unavailable to O'Neil, slated for housing that was never built.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 05, 2014, 11:31:27 PM
Tim:

I'm pretty sure that the map shows a preliminary routing, and with respect to the front nine differs in some ways from what was actually built.  An article that appeared a month later in Golfers Magazine noted such, and another article from October of the same year has a description of the nine holes on the north end of the property that doesn't exactly match up with the map.  That being said, that description does have the 2nd hole as a par 3, which jives with what you said about the old green pad.

Sven
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tim_Cronin on December 06, 2014, 12:10:21 AM
Tim:

I'm pretty sure that the map shows a preliminary routing, and with respect to the front nine differs in some ways from what was actually built.  An article that appeared a month later in Golfers Magazine noted such, and another article from October of the same year has a description of the nine holes on the north end of the property that doesn't exactly match up with the map.  That being said, that description does have the 2nd hole as a par 3, which jives with what you said about the old green pad.

Sven

Based on my research for the Beverly book, including info from club documents, this was what was built. Six and seven are today's seventh hole (albeit now shortened by 87th Street), eight and nine follow the same basic line. But the original 3-4-5-6 were remodeled/replaced by the current 2-3-4-5 under Ross' direction. Likewise the revamping of 11-12 and the last four holes on the back. We have property line maps that show O'Neil, Janes and Middleton (two members) couldn't go anywhere else.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 14, 2014, 08:35:02 PM
1919
(https://books.google.com/books?id=4-sxAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA30&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U3wyRJeLi2rlZaSwTCdyPxysdXLpQ&ci=66%2C544%2C916%2C313&edge=0)
(https://books.google.com/books?id=4-sxAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA30&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U3wyRJeLi2rlZaSwTCdyPxysdXLpQ&ci=129%2C876%2C835%2C461&edge=0)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 14, 2014, 09:09:15 PM
Moved my response to Tim to a new thread to keep this one on track.  In its place, here are a couple of early Glen View Club plans which I do not think have been posted yet.

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/GlenViewClub_zps2b243e88.jpg)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/GlenvViewClubRouting_zps9ef8b23c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Matt Frey, PGA on December 14, 2014, 11:27:47 PM
Malone (New York) Golf Club from "A History of the Malone Golf Club" (1987 / 2003). This is the original 18-hole routing.

Hole Nos. 1-8, 16 and 17 on this routing are still in play on the current East Course and remain virtually untouched, sans significant tree growth and still play as the same hole numbers.

Hole No. 9 now plays as No. 18 on the current West Course; No. 11 as current No. 1; No. 12 as current No. 9 West; No. 13 is currently No. 10 West, No. 14 is now No. 17 West.

Old No. 10 is still pretty much in tact, but is only used as a practice hole. Old No. 18's green is still there and is used as a practice chipping / putting green, but the bunkers have been taken out. Old No. 15 green still exists and sits at the rear of the current golf range and is used for instructional purposes, however, I believe a fair amount of green space has been lost.

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/PGAmagAmbassador/mgcrouting.jpg)

And here's Malone's original routing (nine holes) at it's original location, slightly closer to the village where Franklin Academy now stands.

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/PGAmagAmbassador/mgc-originalrouting.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Matt Frey, PGA on December 15, 2014, 08:34:20 PM
Here are a few routings from J. Peter Martin's "Adirondack Golf Courses...Past and Present." A number of the courses don't have architects listed in the book, so I will be looking into that to see if I can find any more information on them

Eagles Nest Country Club and Golf Course, Blue Mountain Lake, New York; Willie Dunn (1900) - defunct

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/PGAmagAmbassador/eaglesnest-adk-routing.jpg)

Lake Clear (New York) Inn Golf Course (1912) - defunct I'm not sure how accurate it is, but take a look at Nos. 7 and 8...that doesn't look too safe!

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/PGAmagAmbassador/lakeclear-adk-routing.jpg)

Tackawana Golf Course, Willsboro, New York (pre-dates 1927) - defunct

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/PGAmagAmbassador/buenavistapark-adk-routing.jpg)

Clifton Pine Golf Course, Star Lake, New York (1918 / 1954)

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/PGAmagAmbassador/cliftonfine-adk-routing.jpg)

Thendara (New York) Golf Course; Donald Ross (1920)

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/PGAmagAmbassador/thendara-adk-routing.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 15, 2014, 08:43:09 PM
Matt,
If you don't mind can you post, or send me,  the photo of the fairway with the stonehenge-like rocks used as a hazard?
 Can't remember the page.

Thanks
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Matt Frey, PGA on December 15, 2014, 08:49:39 PM
Matt,
If you don't mind can you post, or send me,  the photo of the fairway with the stonehenge-like rocks used as a hazard?
 Can't remember the page.

Thanks

Jim: Here you are! Sorry the quality isn't the best...

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/PGAmagAmbassador/eaglesnest-rockhazard-adk.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 15, 2014, 10:03:50 PM
Thank you Matt!  I love that photo, even though I feel sorry for the damsel getting ready to hit her shot.

A hazard that really fits on an Adirondack golf course.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 18, 2014, 02:11:26 PM
Baltimore CC (Roland Park) from the Sept. 1898 edition of Golf Magazine:

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/BaltimoreCCPlan-GolfMagazineSept1898_zpsbed6f18a.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 18, 2014, 08:51:02 PM
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7522/15433939793_c97f5d884e_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 18, 2014, 10:34:15 PM
Great Falls, Montana. The club is still active at the same location/

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8616/16054032905_86e47f4478_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on December 19, 2014, 12:26:57 AM
Thanks to all those who continue to contribute to this thread.  Jim Kennedy, you Da Man!  My apologies for lagging so far behind, but I've now updated the index.

Here is a very nice image of Robert Bruce Harris's 1955 grassing plan for the Country Club of Florida that Lester George was kind enough to send me...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/CountryClubofFlorida_zpsd10d1f64.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/CountryClubofFlorida_zpsd10d1f64.jpg.html)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on December 19, 2014, 12:33:22 AM
And here are a number of maps that Mark Rowlinson sent me...

Bath

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/BathGC_zps39d471b3.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/BathGC_zps39d471b3.jpg.html)


West Sussex

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/WestSussexGC_zpsb507292b.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/WestSussexGC_zpsb507292b.jpg.html)


Frilford Heath

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/FrilfordHeathGC_zps7e129f9a.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/FrilfordHeathGC_zps7e129f9a.jpg.html)


Golf Club Biella

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/GolfClubBiella_zps8c0c9643.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/GolfClubBiella_zps8c0c9643.jpg.html)


Chateau de la Tournette

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/GolfChateaudelaTournette_zpse15dcf8b.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/GolfChateaudelaTournette_zpse15dcf8b.jpg.html)


Mark also sent me these two maps of an unidentified course which I assume is in Japan...

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/UnknownJapaneseCourse_zps912be8d1.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/UnknownJapaneseCourse_zps912be8d1.jpg.html)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/eko_gfl/UnknownJapaneseCourse2_zpsbd30260c.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/eko_gfl/media/UnknownJapaneseCourse2_zpsbd30260c.jpg.html)


Can anyone help put a name to the course?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Dean DiBerardino on December 19, 2014, 04:38:38 AM
Ed:

I think that is Hirono Golf Club.

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 19, 2014, 10:52:52 AM
Ed:

I think that is Hirono Golf Club.



Without a doubt.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hirono+Golf+Club/@34.7674904,135.0178108,1872m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0xaeaa848391e0349e
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 20, 2014, 03:18:50 PM
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8612/16065664705_ebaba47dc0_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 22, 2014, 06:51:18 PM
One of the first golf and real estate communities in the US.
Click and it will go big:


(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8641/15896058530_e8d2d74a6e_o.jpg) (https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8641/15896058530_e8d2d74a6e_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 22, 2014, 08:42:08 PM
Bendelow plan for Denver - 1917
Click on it - will go big


(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7536/15896631860_fbbb3fe15c_o.jpg) (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7536/15896631860_fbbb3fe15c_o.jpg)

from "The American City" vol. 16
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 24, 2014, 07:15:53 PM
Riviera, from the 1929 US Open Program:

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Riviera-LosAngelesOpenProgram19294_zpsffe9268c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on December 25, 2014, 01:58:56 PM
Sven -

It is striking how many c/l or near c/l bunkers TB built later in his career. A clear shift away from Victorian cross bunkers. Very interesting.

Jim -

I am informed by my kids that the technical term for "click on it - will go big" is now "embiggen". ;)

Merry Christmas to all.

Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Matt Frey, PGA on December 25, 2014, 10:12:19 PM
Here's a routing of Inverness in 1920 from the first issue of PGA Magazine. I know there were two prior routings of Inverness on this thread, but the image sources appear to be broken.

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/PGAmagAmbassador/inverness-1920-pgamag.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 25, 2014, 11:20:28 PM
Matt:

Thought your post was appropriate considering the text at the top left of the routing map you posted.

Here's another Inverness routing, this one from the June 1907 edition of Golfers Magazine.

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Inverness-GolfersMagazineJune1907_zpsdb91e9d8.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCowan on December 25, 2014, 11:27:51 PM
Sven,

   I am curious as I thought Inverness was 9 holes until Ross came around 1919.  Nichols did the original routing, which i thought was 9 holes.  I have the centennial book, not with me.  I'm curious if the above you posted ever got built. 
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 25, 2014, 11:36:47 PM
Sven,

   I am curious as I thought Inverness was 9 holes until Ross came around 1919.  Nichols did the original routing, which i thought was 9 holes.  I have the centennial book, not with me.  I'm curious if the above you posted ever got built. 

Nicholls did the original 9.  The course was extended to 18 holes around 1907 (April 1907 Golfers Magazine notes the work on the new 9).  Not sure by who. 

Sven
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 26, 2014, 07:13:22 PM
Annandale GC - Golfers Magazine Jan. 1907

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/AnnandalePlan-GolfersMagazineJan1907_zps3ee3b4eb.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 26, 2014, 07:15:15 PM
Cal Club - San Francisco Water brochure, 1923

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/CalClub-192304_zps1ae6d6b2.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 26, 2014, 07:16:57 PM
Coronada GC - Golfers Magazine Nov. 1904

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Coronado-GolfersMagazineNov1904_zps58f5cd37.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 26, 2014, 07:19:45 PM
Hotel Green - Nov. 1904 Golfers Magazine

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/HotelGreen-GolfersMagazineNov1904_zps71b94cad.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 26, 2014, 07:22:29 PM
Two early Hotel Redondo plans, side by side (the second is from the Dec. 1904 Golfers Magazine).

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/HotelRedondo_zpsc0d55bd5.jpg)(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/HotelRedondo-GolfersMagazineDec1904_zps27d0a3d9.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 26, 2014, 07:26:06 PM
Pasadena CC - Golfers Magazine Dec. 1904

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Pasadena-GolfersMagazineDec1904_zps2803332b.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 26, 2014, 07:29:03 PM
Colorado Springs CC - Golf Magazine Jan. 1898

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/ColoradoSpringsPlan-GolfMagazineJan1898_zpsd0627ef2.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 26, 2014, 07:35:54 PM
Sarasota GC - Golfers Magazine April 1905

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Sarasota-GolfersMagazineApril1905_zps03b53c30.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Doug Wright on December 26, 2014, 08:26:13 PM
Bendelow plan for Denver - 1917
from "The American City" vol. 16

Jim, Denver City Park GC is virtually unchanged from this routing. I guess not surprising given its street-locked topography but still interesting to see 100 years later.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 28, 2014, 01:23:10 PM
Asheville CC Stick Routing

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/AshevilleCC_zps997734a3.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on December 28, 2014, 01:40:32 PM
It is interesting how often holes cross roads on these older routings.

I had thought, for example, that the holes at Merion originally designed to cross Ardmore Avenue were unusual. But it's likely no one would have thought so at the time.

Bob 
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 28, 2014, 08:04:35 PM
No road crossings, just the railroad tracks.

Double click to embiggen.   ;)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7484/15510876504_61411ac834_o.jpg) (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7484/15510876504_61411ac834_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 28, 2014, 08:18:36 PM
El Caballero (from Golf Architecture In America) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/ElCaballeroPlan-GAIA_zps543c47e3.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 28, 2014, 08:20:43 PM
McGregor Links (from Golf Architecture In America) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/McGregorLinksPlan-GAIA_zps8907e1af.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 29, 2014, 01:15:31 PM
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7468/15517402634_147f3c4817_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 29, 2014, 04:01:07 PM
Click once to embiggen - twice to embiggen bigger.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7542/15953503298_3c1f7da3c1_o.jpg) (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7542/15953503298_3c1f7da3c1_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jeff_Brauer on December 29, 2014, 04:17:59 PM
One of the first golf and real estate communities in the US.
Click and it will go big:


(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8641/15896058530_e8d2d74a6e_o.jpg) (https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8641/15896058530_e8d2d74a6e_o.jpg)


Bendelow did River Crest in Ft Worth earlier than that.  Of interest is the fact that both places, his intent was to put the golf course in the front yard, across the street.  At some point later (and maybe earlier, depending on developer) the trend shifted to putting the golf course behind the houses.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 29, 2014, 04:24:38 PM
One of the first golf and real estate communities in the US.
Click and it will go big:


(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8641/15896058530_e8d2d74a6e_o.jpg) (https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8641/15896058530_e8d2d74a6e_o.jpg)


Bendelow did River Crest in Ft Worth earlier than that.  Of interest is the fact that both places, his intent was to put the golf course in the front yard, across the street.  At some point later (and maybe earlier, depending on developer) the trend shifted to putting the golf course behind the houses.

Jeff,
I'd guess that the popularity and eventual preponderance of the automobile was the main reason for that change.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 30, 2014, 12:03:16 PM
This is mainly Tom Bendelow's layout for RHC. A couple of the holes were lost to a land sale and needed to be changed, so their Pro, George Pierson, made the changes (holes 16 & 17).

Embiggen w/two clicks.
  

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7483/15960882398_3cd562373d_o.jpg) (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7483/15960882398_3cd562373d_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 30, 2014, 12:48:57 PM
Bendelow's layout for Rockaway, pre-changes by Pierson, from the October 5th, 1898, BDE:

Embiggen w/2clicks



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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 30, 2014, 03:36:58 PM
Reply #362 from Joe Bausch has the 'new' 18 hole version of this course, here's the beginnings of it.

Embiggen - 2clicks

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 30, 2014, 09:45:19 PM
Lakewood CC from 1915 (Joe Bausch):
(http://xchem.villanova.edu/~bausch/images/misc/Lakewood_1915_EveningTelegram.jpg)

And after Travis laid hands on it, some 5 years later. No. 14 on the left side of the drawing looks like a bear, and the sharp dogleg right #17 (bottom of drawing) is reminiscent of the soon to be built 3rd hole AWT's Fresh Meadows CC.

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 31, 2014, 01:42:22 PM
Here's the 1897 (top) and 1901 (btm.) drawings of Stockbridge. 

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 31, 2014, 01:52:35 PM
We need more of these time lapse routing comparisons.  Perhaps it should be a separate thread, but the side by sides are fascinating.

Sven
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 31, 2014, 05:52:12 PM
Embiggen =2clicks



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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Anthony Gholz on January 02, 2015, 11:46:33 AM
Crestwood Golf Club back of scorecard from the 1960s. Source "Cleveland Area Golf" by Kenneth Hopkins 2004 notes Harold Paddock Sr. architect

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jeff_Brauer on January 02, 2015, 12:07:57 PM
One of the first golf and real estate communities in the US.
Click and it will go big:


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Bendelow did River Crest in Ft Worth earlier than that.  Of interest is the fact that both places, his intent was to put the golf course in the front yard, across the street.  At some point later (and maybe earlier, depending on developer) the trend shifted to putting the golf course behind the houses.

Jeff,
I'd guess that the popularity and eventual preponderance of the automobile was the main reason for that change.

Jim, it may have deeper sociological roots than that, but certainly a lot of parked cars on the street with broken windows had something to do with it.  Many older houses had carriage houses, or garages at the back (maybe originally meant for horses)  Somewhere along the way, America went from sitting on the front porch and waving at the neighbors to wanting a more private space in the back yard.  Maybe the money savings of putting the garage at the front of the house, to avoid a long driveway and cars not necessitating they "hide" the garage/service area as it were contributed to the change.  Or maybe they wanted to show off their new cars, or wanted more area for the kids to play in safety away from the cars. 

Not sure exactly why, but in landscape architecture school, I recall discussing that big change a few times.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 02, 2015, 12:30:54 PM
Jeff,

Infrastructure - a road course-side only serves one home. Creating golf corridors and backing the homes up to the course is at least a two-for-one proposition in homesites and at least half the cost for roadways/services/maintenance/etc..    
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jeff_Brauer on January 02, 2015, 05:02:24 PM
Yes, also a big factor!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 02, 2015, 05:51:39 PM
...it may have deeper sociological roots than that...Somewhere along the way, America went from sitting on the front porch and waving at the neighbors to wanting a more private space in the back yard. 

Sounds like post WW11 suburbia.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Anthony Gholz on January 02, 2015, 08:14:25 PM
Don't laugh, yes its a place mat from the Grosse Ile CC (Michigan) literally "taken" this year. Donald Ross 1919.  Per "Architects of Golf" originally 27 holes.  Finishes with a very good lengthy par-3.

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 02, 2015, 11:16:59 PM
There are a couple on Nassau CC maps but they no longer appear. This one looks like the "Steeplechase" variety of links, but the  long bunker   that spans six holes and the circus hole are pretty unique.  ;D

2clicks - embiggen
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on January 03, 2015, 07:43:57 PM
Hartford Golf Club 1900
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/FullSizeRender_zps3592165e.jpg)

Reply #310 has the 1902 version with the nines reversed

Hartford Golf Club 1910-Designed by A.H. Findlay and W.C. Gordon
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Hartford Golf Club 1916-Designed by Alfred Williams
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Hartford Golf Club 1922
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 04, 2015, 03:32:51 PM
BDE -August 26, 1928

Embiggen =2 clicks


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Anthony Gholz on January 04, 2015, 04:17:26 PM
River Forest GC "course laid out by Major Webster".  From the Golfers Green Book Chicago 1901.  I chose this of the many layouts in the book because I'm a retired architect and the CH architect was Frank Lloyd Wright.  The membership list not only includes Wright, but reads almost as a list of his Chicago area clients.  I suggest anyone into early (pre 1901) Chicago golf take a look at this book.  It has the early (read first) layouts of many of the Chicago clubs.  The RR map is a short form to check if your club is on the list.  The book is available on line at the LOC.  The RFGC didn't last long, only until 1905 when the property owner, a Wright client, decide  to develop it.  However, the Wright Ch is still there today as the CH of the RF Tennis Club.

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: john_stiles on January 04, 2015, 05:23:58 PM

Photo of the Ross / McGovern plan of Elk Rapids in Michigan. 

Stopped by a very cold rainy day.

Located north east of Traverse City on the a sliver of land between East Traverse Bay  and Elk Lake.



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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 04, 2015, 07:50:13 PM
Embiggen = 1 click

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 04, 2015, 08:03:08 PM
City Park GC - New Orleans = 1937
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 05, 2015, 07:48:46 PM
Embiggen = 2 clicks


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 06, 2015, 01:14:53 AM
I like "The Unknown Sahara".  :)

From "A Sporting Pilgrimage" by Caspar Whitney -1894

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on January 06, 2015, 10:05:14 AM
Jim -

Do we know who designed the 1888 St. Georges course?

Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 06, 2015, 11:01:55 AM
Bob,

Dr. William Laidlaw Purves, with a nod to the club Pro, Ramsey Hunter, who helped w/the layout.

First man on the tee in TMac's essay:

http://golfclubatlas.com/in-my-opinion/in-my-opinion-the-early-architects-beyond-old-tom-by-tom-macwood/

http://www.library.rcsed.ac.uk/docs/GD_55_William_Laidlaw_Purves_LRCSEd.pdf


And if you have any questions about Robinson Crusoe:

http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/001418287
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on January 06, 2015, 11:24:05 AM
Thanks. My bad for not checking Tom MacW's piece. Finding the Royal College of Surgeons site .... awesome.

Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 06, 2015, 02:38:27 PM
This is a diagram of the original 9 holes at North Hills CC in Oreland, PA.  This coming from a program at the club for a 1965 event.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/1912diagram.jpg) (http://xchem.villanova.edu/~bausch/images/NorthHills/1912diagram.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 06, 2015, 03:47:50 PM
Gotta love a course that has shots across the LIRR!  This is Westbrook from the Oct 26, 1896 edition of the NY Sun, laid out by Willie Dunn on the property of W. Bayard Cutting.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Oct26_1896_NYSun.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 06, 2015, 07:02:25 PM
Newburgh on Ythan  - Scotland

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 06, 2015, 07:41:32 PM
From the Jubiliee Book of the Kilmarnock (Barassie) Golf Club  - Troon, Scotland

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The complete booklet:

http://www.theclaymoreproject.com/uploads/golfclub/1/file/Jubilee%20Book2.pdf
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 07, 2015, 02:23:32 PM
This routing map appeared in the Dec. 1903 edition of Golf Magazine.  It is of an actual course that was not identified, with the commentary that the straight lines and right angles were unusual, but probably presented a course worth playing over.

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 07, 2015, 06:00:58 PM
Sven,
Any location given for the "Unique" course?

Was thinking of your Florida threads when I saw this one:

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 07, 2015, 08:28:34 PM


2 clicks = embiggen


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 07, 2015, 08:29:59 PM
Sven,
Any location given for the "Unique" course?


Jim:

No location given.  The square grid suggests it was a city course.

Sven
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 08, 2015, 02:28:49 PM
This link takes you to a plan that Alister MacKenzie drew for the Bristol and Clifton GC in the UK, but they never put it on the ground...
http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,43932.0/
...or you can view the plan at reply #198, this thread.

Here's the layout from 1895, after the club added 9 new holes:

 
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There is some speculation in the thread that 9 of today's holes are routed as Mac laid them out. The club turned to Henry Cotton & Co. in 1949 for their 'new' course - maybe he used some of Alister's plan.

There is also a label w/a 1905 date affixed to the Mac plan, but the style of the drawing led to the belief that it was an error and the plans  came from the '20s.
 

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 08, 2015, 03:20:41 PM
An early map of Stanmore GC in Middlesex, UK.

This is a turn of the century view, but the club says that Alister MacKenzie built them a new one in the early '20s. I did check the MacKenzie Timeline, but there's no mention of a Stanmore GC.

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 08, 2015, 05:39:26 PM
1923 Willie Park Jr. renovation plan  - it was rejected by the club

2 clicks = embiggen

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 08, 2015, 06:08:49 PM
This is a 1934 map of the private course on the 100 acre estate of J.J. Lynn (aka- Rajarsi Janakananda) in Kansas City, Mo. It was located between Sixty-third Street, Meyer Boulevard, Paseo, and Prospect.

One of the more enlightened owners of his own gc. (http://www.annettesacre.com/emoticons/swame.gif)

(http://www.guruji.it/galleria/FotoDiscepoli/Yogananda_and_Rajarsi_Overlooking_Ocean.jpg)

Interesting story - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajarsi_Janakananda  

Also:  http://kcmeditation.com/pdf/RajarsiGuideBook.pdf  

Click to embiggen



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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 09, 2015, 06:42:40 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 09, 2015, 07:06:28 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 09, 2015, 07:53:49 PM
A. Vernon Macan -Langarac GC
 
(http://langaragolfclub.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/image095-1024x409.png)Newspaper Article for 'Daily Province Public Links Golf Championship', 1939

“In the spring of 1924, the Canadian Pacific Railway Company commenced construction of the first eighteen hole public golf course in B.C. It was not until June 26, 1926 however that the official opening was held.” ( from Golf: Its history and Development in British Columbia by Hal Rhodes)

“Newton J. Kerr, town site Agent, Vancouver, advises that the Company’s Land Department is clearing 160 acres of land in South Vancouver lying between 51st and 59th Avenues and Ontario and Bridge Street. As the first step towards constructing a golf course, A. Vernon Macan, Golf Architect, who has laid out many courses on the Pacific coast, has been engaged to give the work general supervision. The ground slopes gently to the southeast, with a fall of 130 feet in the entire distance, is of a rolling character, intersected by two streams, and has a fine outlook over the Fraser River Delta and the Gulf of Georgia. The work will cost approximately $120,000 and it is expected that everything will be ready for use in the spring of 1926. The course will open to the public, with charges of $.50 for 18 holes, or monthly fee of $2.50, annual fee of $20.00.” (from Canadian Pacific Bulletin #192, 1925)”
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 09, 2015, 08:07:24 PM
Another Macan - July 1924 - Tacoma Sunday Ledger, 5-4-24

Gourse measured 6,455 yards with a par of 70.
Click to embiggen

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on January 09, 2015, 09:44:57 PM
Jim -

Can you reduce ("emshrinken") the scale of the "Peachtree" course routing so the street names are legible?

I can't picture where the course was to be located.

Bob   
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 09, 2015, 10:44:11 PM
Bob, It's tough to make out, even enshrunken, but here's the comparison;

Blue lines are Peachtree Creek on both maps
Yellow lines are Northside Drive on NW on Google map and plain old Northside Drive on the 1928 map
Black lines are Woodward Way NW on the Google map and Memorial Drive on the 1928 map

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 09, 2015, 10:49:14 PM
Sven,
A Bendelow?

Embiggen = 2clicks
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 09, 2015, 10:57:06 PM
Jim:

Definitely a Bendelow.  He laid it out in 1907.  The "Spion Kop" is an interesting feature.

Sven
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 09, 2015, 11:35:07 PM
Sven,
I must have missed it on your Bendelow thread. :o

Hardelot - 1908

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 09, 2015, 11:46:22 PM
How cool is that first tee at Hardelot?  Reminiscent of St. Augustine.

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 10, 2015, 12:26:42 AM
Another view of the first tee, along with brother Vardon getting ready to slap a long one on #9, after first taking the boat ride across the moat to tee off, then back across the moat to putt.

Sounds like fun! - and what a blast of a finish in the backyard of the castle.

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on January 10, 2015, 09:15:04 AM
Jim -

Thanks, Jim. I see where the course would have been. It is only a couple of hundred yards from our house in ATL, btw.

I think this is the same project that was re-named the next year as 'Colonial Golf Club'. Phil Young discovered Tilly's plans for a course having that name at the same site. There are articles in the AJC on the project from 1929. The course was never built due to the onset of the Great Depression. Much of the area was used for the Bobby Jones Golf Course, a municipal course built later in the 1930's. Parts of the tract, however, were not used for BJGC. I have been convinced for years that some of those areas, now used mostly for dog frisbie, were originally cut out as hole corridors for the Tilly course that was never built.   

Great find.

Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 10, 2015, 10:23:32 AM
Bob,

Here's a bit more info

http://friendsofbobbyjonesgolfcourse.com/history/
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 10, 2015, 02:35:42 PM
A generation before they were cracking Nazi code in Bletchley they were playing golf - by comparison, "Enigma" was probably a piece of cake.

The map was drawn sometime after 1906, the date given for the course, and 1914, the date that the draftsman, Maj. John Chadwick, lost his life in the "Great War" (there's an oxymoron for you).  ;) 

More about Bletchley:
http://www.mkheritage.co.uk/mkha/mkha/projects/jt/bletchley/docs/heroes.html

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 11, 2015, 11:18:57 AM
Frankford Country Club Golf Links
Upper map is 1903
Lower is from 1910

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 11, 2015, 03:27:07 PM
Walnut Lane GC  - Philadelphia Pa.= ca. 1939
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 12, 2015, 02:40:53 PM
League Island GC - ca. 1930s - Eventually known as FDR Golf Club
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7547/16264967252_b32a87becc_o.jpg)

This 2006 thread offers some info:
 http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,24568.0.html

As does this :
http://tinyurl.com/mdmype5
It's a "cached" page, but it will give you the pdf address if you want to download it.

This link will take you to an aerial view of the course:
http://cdm16038.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p268001uw/id/4860/rec/37

It was said in another thread that the routing pattern has changed from the original layout, but today's course looks amazingly similar to the one shown in the '30s map.  

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on January 12, 2015, 03:19:22 PM
New Britain Golf Club, Newington, CT-1915. 9 holes designed by John Duncan Dunn in 1899.  6 or 7 holes added by Robert D. Pryde in 1912.
Formerly known as Maple Hill Golf Club, later known as Sequin Golf Club.  Today, the course is known as Indian Hill Country Club.  
The current routing at Indian Hill Country Club is a Robert J. Ross design from 1925.
Source: Hartford Courant-July 13, 1915
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 12, 2015, 06:47:47 PM
These come from "The Golf Book Of East Lothian" by John Kerr (1896). Write-ups on them can be found at: 
http://tinyurl.com/lepmkt3

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 13, 2015, 01:47:22 PM
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7524/16085930130_80d98b4045_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 13, 2015, 06:58:54 PM
Tampa Links (Outing Magazine, Feb. 1900) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/TampaPlan-OutingFeb1900_zpsd541283d.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 14, 2015, 07:02:06 PM
Golfer's Guide  = 1894

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 14, 2015, 07:24:33 PM
The Golfer - 1897

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 22, 2015, 11:42:37 AM
Apologize if this is a repeat.

Somerset - Dec. 24, 1898 Brooklyn Daily Eagle -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Somerset%20Plan%20-%20Brooklyn%20Daily%20Eagle%20Dec.%2024%201898_zpsrm1zd18b.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Anthony Gholz on January 25, 2015, 10:28:10 AM
Indianwood CC Lake Orion Michigan 1930 Western Open.  The article from the Port Huron Times Herald shows Wilfrid (spelled wrong as fred) Reid both as contestant and architect.  They even give credit to Bill Connellan, Reid's partner, for building the course.

(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah285/agholz/Indianwood%20PHTH%2082130%20plan_zps408hfhvr-1.jpg) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/agholz/media/Indianwood%20PHTH%2082130%20plan_zps408hfhvr-1.jpg.html)

(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah285/agholz/Indianwood%208130%20scorecard%20amp%20Reid%20_zpsbkq6pcyb-1.jpg) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/agholz/media/Indianwood%208130%20scorecard%20amp%20Reid%20_zpsbkq6pcyb-1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Anthony Gholz on January 25, 2015, 10:30:20 AM
Colonial CC for the 1940 Open.  Before changes along the river due to flooding and the corps of engineers.  From the Port Huron Times Herald June 1, 1940

(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah285/agholz/Colonial%20CC%20US%20OPEN%20PHTH%206141_zpsqpu1pu7u-1.jpg) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/agholz/media/Colonial%20CC%20US%20OPEN%20PHTH%206141_zpsqpu1pu7u-1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Reply 662 A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ian Murray on January 25, 2015, 04:02:41 PM
Thanks Matt for posting the original layout of the Malone golf courses. The attributions of architect(s) for these courses (East and West have driven me nuts. The convoluted attributions on their website are a testament to ‘branding’: mention Donald Ross and Robert Trent Jones Sr. in the same breath with rather vague references to Albert Murray and Willard Wilkinson but then say the 36 hole layout is really RTJ Sr. But wait. Watch the ‘West Course’ video fly over and Albert Murray has 5 of his holes on the West course. Dazed and confused?

1.   Architects of Golf, 1992, attribute the original 9 holes to Wilkinson (I know, they may be wrong).

2.   Donald Ross. Where does he fit in? Nowhere, according the Donald Ross Society and personal communication with Brad Klein who said there is no evidence he is aware of Ross was ever in Malone.

3.   Enter Golf Digest, June 1987, just around the opening of the Malone West course. They say the East Course “is essentially Murray with a couple of Jones holes”. I know rather vague again but wider interest in the study of golf architecture was just gaining interest with a larger audience at the time.

4.   Enter Albert Murray (my grandfather, my bias acknowledged). Albert notes in his diary he renovated the original 9 and laid out 11 holes at Malone (East Course). Tragically, my grandmother threw out his architectural drawings when she moved a few years after he died (counselling for me helpful in this regard) so I have no more specific details but I do have a few construction photos of his time when he expanded the East Course to 18.

Then to top it off James R. Hansen in his, A Difficult Par: Robert Trent Jones Sr. and the Making of Modern Golf said Wilkinson laid out 18 holes in 1939.

Sorry for the incorrect placement of this. I have no idea how to reply to a specific post.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 25, 2015, 06:00:47 PM
This routing map appeared in the Dec. 1903 edition of Golf Magazine.  It is of an actual course that was not identified, with the commentary that the straight lines and right angles were unusual, but probably presented a course worth playing over.

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/MysteryCourse-GolfMagazineDec1903_zps5e96070c.png)

Oconomowoc CC - Oconomowoc, Wisconsin - Layout by William Marshall and Alexander Smith. Pretty old, 1895/96.
Straight lines or not, it was 'worthy' enough for  Laurie Autcherlonie to stop by and grab the professional course record w/a 34.  :)   

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7360/16179821368_b1283a4394_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ian Murray on January 25, 2015, 06:19:58 PM
Malone (New York) Golf Club from "A History of the Malone Golf Club" (1987 / 2003). This is the original 18-hole routing.

Hole Nos. 1-8, 16 and 17 on this routing are still in play on the current East Course and remain virtually untouched, sans significant tree growth and still play as the same hole numbers.

Hole No. 9 now plays as No. 18 on the current West Course; No. 11 as current No. 1; No. 12 as current No. 9 West; No. 13 is currently No. 10 West, No. 14 is now No. 17 West.

Old No. 10 is still pretty much in tact, but is only used as a practice hole. Old No. 18's green is still there and is used as a practice chipping / putting green, but the bunkers have been taken out. Old No. 15 green still exists and sits at the rear of the current golf range and is used for instructional purposes, however, I believe a fair amount of green space has been lost.

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/PGAmagAmbassador/mgcrouting.jpg)

And here's Malone's original routing (nine holes) at it's original location, slightly closer to the village where Franklin Academy now stands.

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/PGAmagAmbassador/mgc-originalrouting.jpg)

Thanks for posting the original layout Matt. The attributions of architect(s) for these courses (East and West have driven me nuts. The convoluted attributions on their website are a testament to ‘branding’: mention Donald Ross and Robert Trent Jones Sr. in the same breath with rather vague references to Albert Murray and Willard Wilkinson but then say the 36 hole layout is really RTJ Sr. But wait. Watch the ‘West Course’ video fly over and Albert Murray has 5 of his holes on the West course. Dazed and confused?

1.   Architects of Golf, 1992, attribute the original 9 holes to Wilkinson (I know, they may be wrong).

2.   Donald Ross. Where does he fit in? Nowhere, according the Donald Ross Society and personal communication with Brad Klein who said there is no evidence he is aware of Ross was ever in Malone.

3.   Enter Golf Digest, June 1987, just around the opening of the Malone West course. They say the East Course “is essentially Murray with a couple of Jones holes”. I know rather vague again but wider interest in the study of golf architecture was just gaining interest with a larger audience at the time.

4.   Enter Albert Murray (my grandfather, my bias acknowledged). Albert notes in his diary he renovated the original 9 and laid out 11 holes at Malone (East Course). Tragically, my grandmother threw out his architectural drawings when she moved a few years after he died (counselling for me helpful in this regard) so I have no more specific details but I do have a few construction photos of his time when he expanded the East Course to 18.

Then to top it off James R. Hansen in his, A Difficult Par: Robert Trent Jones Sr. and the Making of Modern Golf said Wilkinson laid out 18 holes in 1939.




Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 25, 2015, 07:15:17 PM
I'm not the only one who is amazed at all the early golf courses that had road crossings. Eleven of the next fourteen courses have holes that require playing over roads. There are also two that play over racetracks, and one that plays over rail lines. All are from The Golfer's Green Book of 1901, and all drew their members from Chicago.
    
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7308/16367695315_098a9ed4cf_o.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7398/16367695505_9b3388c6e3_o.jpg)

The above club is the leader in the clubhouse with 20 crossings. That's a lot of looking both ways, more like a tennis match that a game of golf.  
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 25, 2015, 07:17:40 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 26, 2015, 03:29:27 PM
Glen Echo CC - St. Louis Missouri - home of the 1904 Olympic golf matches

Drawing blatantly lifted from Jim Healey's "In My Opinon" piece:

 http://golfclubatlas.com/in-my-opinion/glen-echo-country-club/

(http://www.golfclubatlas.com/images/GlenEcho_1904a.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 26, 2015, 07:37:53 PM
Hood River CC - H. Chandler Egan, architect

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7295/15756793803_d8618514fa_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 26, 2015, 08:17:53 PM
Another by Egan...

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7383/15754452704_571f1d214a_o.png)

...and one by George Otten:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7295/16190638879_4291c10fd5_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 29, 2015, 07:58:34 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jeff Doerr on February 01, 2015, 04:40:17 PM
Another Macan - July 1924 - Tacoma Sunday Ledger, 5-4-24

Gourse measured 6,455 yards with a par of 70.
Click to embiggen

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Thanks Jim - love that!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 02, 2015, 12:37:13 PM
Upstate NY.

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8624/15804530153_d92fe39814_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Matt Frey, PGA on February 02, 2015, 09:31:08 PM
As a Cincinnati native, Joe Bausch shared a July 7, 1895 The Cincinnati Enquirer article with me last month that he had stumbled upon during some of his research. The article included the below routing of the "Longworth Golf Links."

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/PGAmagAmbassador/longworth-1895.JPG)

While Longworth is a name synonymous with Cincinnati, I had never heard of a Longworth Golf Links and had to do a little more digging. Although the article didn't mention a specific location of the course, the routing did label an intersection: Cowards, which does not exist anymore, and Grandin, which, while long, is where the current Cincinnati Country Club is located.

Tom Cecil schooled me on some CCC history and mailed me a copy of the CCC history book and mentioned that Cincinnati Country Club merged with Cincinnati Golf Club around the turn of the century and that CGC at one time had only nine holes. By comparing the below 1897 routings and land features, one of which was an update from 1906, and by comparing the original CCC and CGC member rosters to the key stakeholders from the Enquirer article, I am fairly confident that the "Longworth Golf Links" was simply used as a placeholder by the writer (or the eventual club members) until the CGC was formally established.

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/PGAmagAmbassador/cgc-1897.jpg)

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/PGAmagAmbassador/cgc-1906-1897.jpg)

Thanks to Joe for sharing and Tom for helping!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 03, 2015, 12:27:56 AM
Willie Park Jr's proposed (1923) renovation plan that was rejected by the club (earlier post)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7480/16046232220_5dd9f08b94_o.jpg]) (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7480/16046232220_5dd9f08b94_o.jpg)

This was the way the course looked for the 1937 PGA Championship (won by Denny Shute):

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7437/16433043675_c8e19c9fe7_o.jpg) (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7437/16433043675_c8e19c9fe7_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 03, 2015, 01:49:43 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 03, 2015, 05:17:10 PM
The upper sketch of the Hotel Redondo Links was posted (#471) by Joe Tucholski. It shows the course as it existed in 1900.

The lower sketch shows the 'new' course in 1903.

Once again, road crossings were not a roadblock to creating golf courses back then.  

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 03, 2015, 08:36:36 PM
In 1934 Lawson Little won The US Amateur at Brookline and The Amateur at Prestwick. In 1935 he won The US Amateur at Cleveland and
The Amateur at Royal Lytham & St.Annes.

A Golf Journal article labeled it "The Little Slam".
http://www.usgamuseum.com/about_museum/news_events/news_article.aspx?newsid=143

Quite a feat, but I wonder: Did they call it "The Little Slam" because of his name, or in comparison to Bobby Jones' "Grand Slam"? 

Works either way.  ;D

(http://www.usgamuseum.com/about_museum/news_events/images/LawsonLittle.jpg)

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on February 04, 2015, 06:06:41 PM
I have fixed every broken link for my contributions to this thread.  Whew, that's 2 hours of my life I can't have back!

Some of the posts on the first 12 pages or so are quite good, IMHO.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 08, 2015, 07:14:56 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 08, 2015, 08:13:41 PM
The routing of the Governor's Island course (Golf Illustrated Sept. 1925).

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Governors%20Island%20Plan%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20Sept.%201925_zpszybiluct.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on February 09, 2015, 06:22:07 AM
Philadelphia Country Club from the September 17, 1899 edition of The Times:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Sept17_1899_TheTimes.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mike Viscusi on February 09, 2015, 09:50:39 AM
Joe, was this located where the Target currently is?

Philadelphia Country Club from the September 17, 1899 edition of The Times:

(http://xchem.villanova.edu/~bausch/images/PhillyCountryClub/Sept17_1899_TheTimes.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Howard Riefs on February 09, 2015, 12:11:26 PM
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8590/16474989755_7c904a6a24_o.jpg)

Very interesting to see that the course was later re-routed.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on February 09, 2015, 01:00:30 PM
Joe, was this located where the Target currently is?


I believe so.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 11, 2015, 10:35:17 AM

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7429/16500178091_9072e6f4e3_o.jpg)

There's also a 1920 map of Inverness posted by Joe Bausch at post 205.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 11, 2015, 07:59:35 PM
A few days ago I found a map of Merion when I was putting together something about Gene Sarazen. When I saw it I kept thinking why does it look so familiar  ???.
I was getting ready to post it just now and I checked the index of courses that Ed has listed on the first page of this thread. Lo and behold, there was the same basic photo posted by Joe Bausch, only his was from the 1930 Amateur and this is from the 1934 Open.

I think it's a worthwhile addition as the accompanying article describes some of the stiffening up of Merion for the Pros.

Here's Joe's from '30:

(http://xchem.villanova.edu/~bausch/images/maps/course_Sept21_1930_NYDaily%20Eagle.jpg)

and here's the 1934 photo:

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8582/15885607793_fbe1432cfd_o.jpg)

Click on this link if you want to read about some of the changes that the club, either alone or in concert w/the USGA, thought were necessary to corral the Pros:

http://bklyn.newspapers.com/image/59975895/
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 17, 2015, 11:40:46 AM
Aix-Les-Bains (Golf Illustrated May 1926) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Aix-Les-Bains%20Plan%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20May%201926_zpsu9cn3nca.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 17, 2015, 12:04:27 PM
Bad Ems (Golf Illustrated July 1931) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Bad%20Ems%20Germany%20Plan%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20July%201931_zpscieyzwks.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 17, 2015, 12:08:39 PM
Colonial G&CC (Mass.) (Golf Illustrated Sept. 1923) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Colonial%20MA%20Plan%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20Sept.%201923_zpsuidv3liy.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 17, 2015, 12:10:47 PM
Deal (Golf Illustrated July 1923) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Deal%20Plan%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20July%201923_zpsubitjdw5.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 17, 2015, 12:20:08 PM
Lucerne (Switzerland) (Golf Illustrated May 1926) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Lucerne%20Switz.%20Plan%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20May%201926_zpsynvoqyxa.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 17, 2015, 12:22:13 PM
Manor Richelieu (Golf Illustrated July 1926) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Manor%20Richelieu%20Plan%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20July%201926_zpsacl4rkzc.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 17, 2015, 12:25:35 PM
Olympia Fields (North) (Golf Illustrated May 1928) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/OFCC%20Plan%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20May%201928_zpsg1niox4t.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 17, 2015, 12:30:21 PM
Royal St. David's (Golf Illustrated May 1926) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Royal%20St.%20Davids%20Plan%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20May%201926_zpsufnu8xv1.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 17, 2015, 01:40:59 PM
Kenilworth Lodge (Golf Illustrated Dec. 1934) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Kenilworth%20Lodge%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20Dec.%201934_zpsoveb2hb7.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 17, 2015, 01:53:51 PM
Governor's Island GC (Golf Illustrated Sept. 1925) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Governors%20Island%20Plan%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20Sept.%201925_zpsrcvuf2sp.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 18, 2015, 11:36:29 AM
Brae Burn (Golf Illustrated Aug. 1928) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Brae%20Burn%20Plan%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20Aug.%201928_zps2drbqgpa.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 18, 2015, 06:06:18 PM
Don't know if this one ever made it onto the ground in this spot.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7373/16387154708_c80858e10e_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 20, 2015, 09:45:56 PM
Women's National (Golf Illustrated Jan. 1923) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Womens%20National%20Plan%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20Jan.%201923_zpsi4xvkxio.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 20, 2015, 10:06:01 PM
Sospel (Golf Illustrated Dec. 1922) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Sospel%20Plan%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20Dec.%201922_zpsdkwbfhtn.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 21, 2015, 10:49:37 PM
Plans of the first three courses for Apawamis (from a club history entitled Fifty Years of Apawamis) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Apawamis%201st%20Course%20-%20Fifty%20Years%20of%20Apawamis_zpsk7ofvgkk.png)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Apawamis%202nd%20Course%20-%20Fifty%20Years%20of%20Apawamis_zpscq8icugi.png)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Apawamis%20Plan%20-%20Fifty%20Years%20of%20Apawamis_zps41i0rztu.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 23, 2015, 02:01:03 PM
Dunedin Isles GC, FL. - ca.1926

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8596/16004234294_b43b51f958_o.jpg)

El Campeon- Howey-in-the-Hills, FL - ca. 1917

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8629/16004234324_854bfcc80a_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Rees Milikin on February 23, 2015, 02:14:29 PM
Jim,

Where did you come across the Mission Inn routing?  In 1941 aerials there are only 9 holes to be seen, but you can kind of see the corridors of a few of the other holes in the routing you posted.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 24, 2015, 02:26:39 PM
Not sure if this has been posted or not.  

NGLA (Feb. 1930 Golf Illustrated) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/NGLA%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20Feb.%201930%203_zpstwycngne.png)

Double sized so you can see some of the details:

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/NGLA%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20Feb.%201930%203_zpstwycngne.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 26, 2015, 09:01:08 PM
In 1939 the Detroit GC put together a history of the first 40 years of their existence, and in it was this map of the course. The caption says the '39 course was the same as planned in '15, and a look at a modern aerial reveals it hasn't changed in 100 years!

Of course, fitting 36 holes into a 200 acre piece of property (a triangle completely surrounded by homesites) doesn't leave much room for big changes. 

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8584/16657139001_8a955c5f16_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 03, 2015, 01:02:55 PM
Mahoning - Youngstown, OH (1907)

June 1907 Golf Magazine-

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Mahoning%20-%20Golf%20Magazine%20June%201907_zpsbioofxnq.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Drew Groeger on March 03, 2015, 04:39:51 PM
Langford & Moreau

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7469/15739528491_c98b1b83af_o.jpg)

I just ran across this myself and was going to post it until I noticed Mr. Kennedy had already done so. My question is: where is the 2nd hole?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 03, 2015, 07:33:21 PM
Drew,

Tee -blue   green -green.

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8682/16683529226_1f722ef4c6_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Lyne Morrison on March 05, 2015, 02:59:12 AM

Sven,

Very nice contributions. The detail in the NGLA drawing is really special, one of my favourites.

Would you by any chance hold the complete Golf Illustrated/Devereux Emmet article on Women's National?

I would love to read it if this is possible.

Thanks, Lyne
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 06, 2015, 10:26:26 AM
Lyne:

Here you go (Golf Illustrated Jan. 1923):

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Womens%20National%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20Jan.%201923%201_zps02frina2.png)
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Womens%20National%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20Jan.%201923%202_zpsbxkgfbhm.png)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Womens%20National%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20Jan.%201923%203_zpsgy8r8ufi.png)
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Womens%20National%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20Jan.%201923%204_zpsnrwnximg.png)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Womens%20National%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20Jan.%201923%205_zpsv4jqqtnp.png)
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Womens%20National%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20Jan.%201923%206_zpsqizk50nb.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 06, 2015, 10:29:23 AM
A couple more pieces on Women's National -

Feb. 9, 1924 NY News -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Womens%20National%20-%20NY%20News%20Feb.%209%201924_zpspmnz9ths.png)

A link to a March 1924 Golf Illustrated article - http://tinyurl.com/qgrdd2l

Aug. 20, 1928 Golf Illustrated

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Womens%20National%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20Aug.%201928_zpsmesthh73.png)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Womens%20National%2016th%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20Aug.%201928_zps8j8t1d8p.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Lyne Morrison on March 06, 2015, 08:39:43 PM

Sven this is wonderful.
Thanks so much for taking the time to follow up on this - much appreciated.
Regards, Lyne

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 06, 2015, 11:18:37 PM
Devereux Emmet seems to have been the go-to guy when it came to building courses for women. The Westchester Women's G&TC was built in 1928, just a few years after the Glen Head course. By 1934 it became The Middle Patent Golf Club, and in 1947 the Westchester Golf and Tennis Holding Corporation sold the clubhouse (known as the ancient "Widow Brush" house) to Antoine Gilly, who used it for his famous La Cremaillere Restaurant.
(http://www.cremaillere.com/media/LaCremExterior.jpg)
Some of the course land was sold before WW2 and some of it was used to build new homes for returning servicemen after the war. Another part of it eventually became the Banksville GC, a par 3 layout. It closed in the late 1980s and the land was used for a housing development.  
 
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8634/16737616101_4f13394074_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 15, 2015, 08:51:09 AM
Beach Hurst (Pass Christian, MS) - A 1920 plan for a course that never came to be.

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Beach%20Hurst%20Pass%20Christian%20-%201920_zpsga7lkk24.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on March 15, 2015, 08:57:22 AM
A beautiful drawing. Note the 3-D effect given by the shadows under trees.   Bunkers and greens seem to be rendered in the abstract. Wonderful, unusual stuff.

Do we know who did the drawing?

Bob  
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on March 15, 2015, 09:05:42 AM
Sleepy Hollow Country Club-1919:

(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/EBB5B89D-4839-43BF-ACF9-1EF474A7E2FF_zpsuyj22ega.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 15, 2015, 09:27:10 AM
A beautiful drawing. Note the 3-D effect given by the shadows under trees.   Bunkers and greens seem to be rendered in the abstract. Wonderful, unusual stuff.

Do we know who did the drawing?

Bob  

No idea, but the drawing is reminiscent of some other works on this thread.

Sven
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on March 18, 2015, 01:55:55 PM
From the Memphis library website. Two NLE layouts from Memphis, TN:

(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/C23110D3-1765-4931-BDE4-28A17C04E599.png_zpszh8acfdd.jpeg)

(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/F61A8853-3273-4864-8444-0D9788CF8ADB_zpsyeqdyefu.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 22, 2015, 03:23:40 PM
Gleneagles - June 1925 Golf Illustrated

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Gleneagles%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20June%201925_zps10kmv1v3.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 22, 2015, 03:54:18 PM
Merion's 18th - June 1934 Golf Illustrated

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Merion%2018th%20Plan%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20June%201934_zpsy4euy5u9.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 22, 2015, 03:56:56 PM
Mid-Ocean - June 1923 Golf Illustrated

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Mid-Ocean%20Plan%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20June%201923_zpsgxtguzm4.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 24, 2015, 09:48:12 AM
Vichy - Golf Illustrated Oct. 1922

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Vichy%20Plan%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20Oct.%201922_zpsxnsma1rv.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 31, 2015, 06:16:16 PM
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7618/16993164385_f56f3f9416_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on April 01, 2015, 03:07:37 PM
Oakmont 1903

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8719/16804075979_9d28728b09_z.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: PPallotta on April 01, 2015, 03:39:58 PM
Interesting. They weren't very precious back then, were they -- using what they had and letting that necessity shape the result (like finding a place to fit in Fenway Park), routing courses around and in between roads and railways etc, with nary a complaint about not having a "great site" and instead just taking years to make a course better and (if it had a loyal membership) a club that thrived.

Peter

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on April 04, 2015, 07:00:37 PM
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7658/16847209968_dabd065d75_o.jpg)

The course was located in the area below what's now known as Crandall Park.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7692/16847560290_bda586fe75_o.jpg)

Eventually it became YCC and moved up the road a bit to new digs
 
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8739/17035189625_1f49c451e0_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on April 04, 2015, 07:48:32 PM


(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8749/16827947657_a9bdfb1f00_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on April 05, 2015, 12:09:52 AM
The club's history, with old photos and more maps of the course.
http://www.moundbuilderscc.com/Files/The%20Golf%20Course.pdf


(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7001/6655935803_a3320bc5c2_b.jpg)




Moundbuilders 18 hole plan (Golf Illustrated Jan. 1930) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Moundbuilders%20Plan%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20Jan.%201930_zpsiuithbfa.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on April 05, 2015, 08:38:26 AM
Desmond Muirhead before his time?

Fantastic.

Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on April 06, 2015, 02:03:11 PM
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8707/16434891444_30392e25f5_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on April 07, 2015, 01:24:18 PM
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8816/17042146606_e30354a4f7_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on April 07, 2015, 01:56:41 PM
Very cool, Jim.   I wonder if any of that proposed extension was ever built as supposedly at least one of the original holes was "found" and utilized in the 1923 Flynn course.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on April 08, 2015, 08:12:35 PM
Oak Hill (MA) - 1920 Stiles Plan

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Oak%20Hill%20-%20Stiles%201920%20Plan_zpsqvyhgchf.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on April 09, 2015, 08:36:54 PM
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8762/16886213247_256f70b38a_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on April 10, 2015, 09:54:30 PM
Lookout Point - Travis - April 1922 Golf Illustrated

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Lookout%20Point%20Plan%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20April%201922_zpsqpu244ut.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on April 13, 2015, 09:30:35 AM
Mid-Ocean - June 1923 Golf Illustrated

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Mid-Ocean%20Plan%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20June%201923_zpsgxtguzm4.png)

Mid Ocean-1927 (from Scotland's Gift)
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/CA8AD380-97F6-4A03-A6CA-90E5FF21001C_zpsvevqmaqd.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on April 20, 2015, 09:52:34 PM
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7636/17030778318_36f6d3db16_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on May 08, 2015, 07:41:46 PM
Pinehurst Golf Links, 1899.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5326/17249396728_029ee3f310_o.jpg)

The article containing the photo (enlarges well):

http://newspapers.digitalnc.org/lccn/sn91068725/1899-11-03/ed-1/seq-5.pdf
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe_Tucholski on May 12, 2015, 07:05:05 AM
Sung Nam Golf Club, Seongnam Korea (southeast suburb of Seoul)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MspLbHB7mqM/VFYYVSFtIPI/AAAAAAAACe4/1JzqCEDpxIM/w615-h311-no/Sung%2BNam%2Blayout.png)

http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,59836.0.html
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on May 13, 2015, 07:07:23 PM
Kirkwood Links, Camden SC - GI Oct. 1923
http://tinyurl.com/mvdrs3z
The link is to an article about the greens at this course. They were built by Travis and constructed of sand, but with undulations, using a technique that he devised.
Thanks Ed Homsey!
 
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5458/16994005714_ab3b750bd9_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bill_McBride on May 13, 2015, 09:32:05 PM
Oakmont 1903

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8719/16804075979_9d28728b09_z.jpg)

 The coolest thing about this 112 year old routing is that it hasn't changed!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on May 13, 2015, 09:50:05 PM
GI -Sept 1923

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5330/17434432729_9fe7471a84_z.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Stewart Abramson on May 16, 2015, 09:29:45 PM
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7770/17753309845_610232d442_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/t3Nmv4)P1070408 (2) (https://flic.kr/p/t3Nmv4)

William F Mitchell's Routing plan, Otterkill Golf Club, Maybrook, NY 1956
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on May 16, 2015, 09:54:23 PM
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/88A55CBA-C9EF-480E-B4F7-4A8EA74C562C_zpsygmgikrn.jpg)
Wyantenuck Country Club-Robert D. Pryde design-June 20, 1913
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on May 22, 2015, 09:07:37 PM
Glenview, 1902, from an earlier post  
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7303/12780893085_f38c06f729_c.jpg)

Glenview, (dates?) also from an earlier post
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/GlenViewClub_zps2b243e88.jpg)
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/GlenvViewClubRouting_zps9ef8b23c.jpg)

New Glenview, from 1922
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7677/17363350924_418f626f53_z.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on July 13, 2015, 05:11:02 PM

Altadena CC - map is possibly from the Pasadena-Star News

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3737/19047227534_1a0462ff19_z.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on July 14, 2015, 10:31:38 AM
Noticed that there was a practice ground at Altadena in 1911, Maniac Hill was 1913(?) - any earlier than the one at Altadena, at least here in the US?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on July 16, 2015, 03:24:52 PM
A photo of Walter Travis's original plan for Westchester Country Club, with today's West course, (aka the #1 course and at one time the North course), configured to play in a Reversible Design.   Circa 1920.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/532/19723298241_ca5dbef28b_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on July 17, 2015, 11:26:16 PM
The Greenbrier Resort, White Sulphur Springs, West Virginia-1916


(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/764FC96B-B8EF-4622-A9E0-181A1416EE9C.png_zpse8asspkt.jpeg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on July 20, 2015, 08:37:57 AM

H. Chandler Egan's course at Seaside - May 7, 1922 Sunday Oregonian.

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Seaside%20Plan%20-%20Sunday%20Oregonian%20May%207%201922_zpsaxygcgwo.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on July 20, 2015, 09:15:42 AM
Proposed plan by Allan Lee Longstaff for the Rose City Speedway golf course (Sunday Oregonian - Nov. 6, 1921).


(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Rose%20City%20-%20Sunday%20Oregonian%20Nov.%206%201921%201_zpstyelhihy.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on July 20, 2015, 08:14:28 PM
An overlay of a course map for Multnomah GC in Portland (now NLE) over a modern street map.


(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Multnomah%20GC%20Plan_zpsudncfi0z.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on August 28, 2015, 11:07:29 AM
Kittansett pre-construction drawing from April 15, 1922;

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5633/20763316870_5e0b545a4b_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on September 13, 2015, 02:05:07 PM
Yeamans Hall - plan dated May 1, 1929


(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Yeamans%20Hall%20Plan%20-%20May%201%201929_zpsvo63z6b3.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on October 07, 2015, 11:08:18 AM
Watertown Golf Club (1927)-This layout looks very similar to the 1922 plans drawn for the golf course, viewable in Reply 635
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/D5D57A72-54E4-488F-9BC7-B9CF0D834DE7_zpsvkcz1svh.jpg)



Watertown Golf Club (1929)-  The golf course was not built specifically to this layout. 11 & 12 were not built, but 15 and 16 were built to replace the old number 3 hole shown in the 1927 layout above.  Number 6 from 1922-1927 was also eliminated and number 5, which turned into 18 in 1929 was rerouted to a new green.  Holes 1,2,4,7,8 & 9 from 1927 remained  the same into the 1940's. On this layout, the same holes are numbered 13,14,17,8,9 & 10 respectively
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/8E22A583-8B06-471E-ADA7-0D6AB8BD1164_zps1kfj2f4f.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on October 07, 2015, 11:22:25 AM
Brooklawn Country Club (1899)
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/7A9F422F-0336-4327-B9F7-42694FA4B764_zpsoplxbmdn.jpg)


Brooklawn Country Club (1929)-There was a layout of Brooklawn in Reply 72, but the link is now broken
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/6407C31D-02F1-4BED-BC84-51318F0DD5E9_zps78qah2ag.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on October 10, 2015, 06:07:51 PM

Robert L. James/Emil Loeffler/John Mc Glynn
Fownes Jr. loved it - so did James Francis Burke.
Link to full article written by E. Ellsworth Giles
 https://www.newspapers.com/image/?spot=3386397

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5825/22051747116_c6045dc384_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on October 10, 2015, 08:20:25 PM
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/661/21893853249_4a1093525d_b.jpg)


Ed. -  Correct spelling of the architect's name is Dalgleish.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on October 20, 2015, 08:22:15 PM
An early map of Stanmore GC in Middlesex, UK.

This is a turn of the century view, but the club says that Alister MacKenzie built them a new one in the early '20s. I did check the MacKenzie Timeline, but there's no mention of a Stanmore GC.

click =embiggen 
 
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7538/16045267158_62d3f64300_o.jpg) (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7538/16045267158_62d3f64300_o.jpg)




Lee Patterson, Stanmore Golf Club Historian & Reader of London centric golf history at the British Library, wrote to say that Stanmore is on the Mackenzie timeline, and their AMac map of the modern course supersedes this Tom Dunn version. 

Thanks Lee, and I can only say that I saw no mention of Stanmore on the list when I checked it back in January. On the other hand, my wife is always finding things that I've looked for in the same places where I've already looked.  ;D
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on October 21, 2015, 03:27:59 PM
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This is the layout of Stanmore today along with a short letter from AMac about costs, changes, etc..   


Lee said the club knows 2 Mac holes were lost near the southern boundary in the 1930's, and they haven't yet laid their hands on the original plans, but he's been scouring the British Library/other sources for them so they can arrive at a better understanding of what is AMac's work.











Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on October 27, 2015, 02:20:19 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on October 29, 2015, 10:55:10 PM
Good Lord, I let the index on this thread got out of control!  My apologies for taking so long to bring it current and my ever grateful thanks to Jim Kennedy for doing much of the work for me months ago.  Going forward, I will try and do a better job at keeping pace with Jim, Sven and others who have so regularly contributed to this thread.  I'll try and post some maps that I have stumbled across at some point.  In the meantime, here are a bunch of hole drawings from Mark Saltzman's terrific thread on The Country Club Pepper Pike... http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,52748.0.html

1st Hole
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/The%20Country%20Club/file-8.jpg)

2nd Hole
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/The%20Country%20Club/file-20.jpg)

3rd Hole
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/The%20Country%20Club/file-30.jpg)

4th Hole
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/The%20Country%20Club/file-42.jpg)

5th Hole
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/The%20Country%20Club/file-49.jpg)

6th Hole
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/The%20Country%20Club/file-57.jpg)

7th Hole
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/The%20Country%20Club/file-66.jpg)

8th Hole
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/The%20Country%20Club/file-79.jpg)

9th Hole
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/The%20Country%20Club/file-90.jpg)

10th Hole
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/The%20Country%20Club/file-98.jpg)

11th Hole
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/The%20Country%20Club/file-111.jpg)

12th Hole
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/The%20Country%20Club/file-117.jpg)

13th Hole
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/The%20Country%20Club/file-126.jpg)

14th Hole
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/The%20Country%20Club/file-134.jpg)

15th Hole
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/The%20Country%20Club/file-144.jpg)

16th Hole
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/The%20Country%20Club/file-154.jpg)

17th Hole
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/The%20Country%20Club/file-165.jpg)

18th Hole
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/SaltyLaw/The%20Country%20Club/file-182.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 01, 2015, 12:14:37 PM

Eastmoreland - I believe(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5789/22666117462_31366c9aee_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 01, 2015, 12:28:58 PM

Mammoth Cave, Ky(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/624/22679995685_edc5864dba_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ay9Uyn)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 01, 2015, 02:52:41 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 02, 2015, 12:32:26 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 05, 2015, 10:00:46 PM
Mark Twain GC (Emira, NY) - Elmira Star-Gazette Sept. 3, 1937

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Mark%20Twain%20Elmira%20-%20Elmira%20Star-Gazette%20Sept.%203%201937_zpsnzrsi9qy.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on November 06, 2015, 06:10:05 AM
Sven,

Thanks...I just played there a few weeks ago and despite the loss of some bunkers it's quite well preserved.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 06, 2015, 01:18:14 PM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5641/22438360669_d4e9dcc534_o.jpg)


The article accompanying the drawing says this course in Lincoln Nebraska was only going to be temporary, so the greens were sand, but there is still an 18 hole course at the site.


The completed 27 holes at Pioneer:


(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5751/22459925238_babfbe741a_o.jpg)






This history of the park includes a few golf course maps: 
http://www.nebraskahistory.org/histpres/nebraska/lancaster/LC00-045-Pioneers-Park.pdf






Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 06, 2015, 07:03:12 PM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5694/22810305986_63282d2caa_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 06, 2015, 10:35:39 PM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5689/22847918311_0f75c4fe10_o.jpg)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 07, 2015, 12:28:54 PM
Howey GC (FL) - 1917 Routing

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Howey%20-%201917%20Layout_zpss0cntjvm.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 07, 2015, 06:21:50 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 08, 2015, 11:00:27 AM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 08, 2015, 02:16:53 PM

A couple of views of Gearhart:


(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5631/22483231139_4ed341b60f_o.jpg)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/653/22257200243_0c64467fb5_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 09, 2015, 11:55:28 AM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5770/22459138948_c18e79a4d7_o.jpg)




(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5713/22861478672_6757cd68e5_o.jpg)




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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 09, 2015, 12:55:08 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on November 09, 2015, 01:05:01 PM
Alwoodley in the Good Doctor's own brilliant hand.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/618/22483386138_9c2fddc2a8_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on November 09, 2015, 01:41:46 PM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5808/22888088282_c4c495ed0e_o.jpg)

Jim - The 9 holer is still there, though under threat. Thanks for posting. I had not seen the drawing before.

Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Rees Milikin on November 09, 2015, 04:19:42 PM
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Jim - The 9 holer is still there, though under threat. Thanks for posting. I had not seen the drawing before.

Bob

Are there still threats to shut it down?

I wonder if that routing pictured was ever used b/c if so, it would have been a brutal uphill downhill walk.  The current routing is far superior.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 09, 2015, 07:18:30 PM
Bob,
Glad you enjoyed it.


Today's routing is nothing like what was proposed:


(http://www.pasturegolf.com/courses/images/CPmap.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 09, 2015, 07:19:45 PM
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/692/22720245620_12807e3130_o.jpg)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 10, 2015, 11:19:35 AM
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/711/22934277011_d6d2609974_o.jpg)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on November 10, 2015, 11:25:50 AM
Regarding Candler Park, this is from the Georgia Trust regarding the architectural history;

THE STORY
 Coca-Cola founder Asa Candler donated 55 acres of land in northeast Atlanta to be used as a public park by the city in 1922. The land included a nine-hole golf course designed by landscape architect Helen Smith. Smith was hired by Candler to design the course for his daughter because women were prohibited from playing on the Druid Hills course that Candler frequented.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on November 10, 2015, 12:25:37 PM
Thanks Mike. I had not seen that either.


I have heard that the little course is not played much. There has been talk (coming mostly from the neighborhood) that the land should be converted to a park. I do not know what stance the City of Atlanta will take on that. The operating agreements for their courses are up for re-negotiation. Stay tuned.


Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 10, 2015, 01:01:42 PM

Bob,
Searching the CP Master Plan for the word "golf" gets 16 hits.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46351250/Candler%20Park%20Master%20Plan%20%2811-25-13%29.pdf
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on November 10, 2015, 01:38:02 PM
Thanks Jim. Good news that the MP does not call for the elimination of the course.


Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 12, 2015, 10:19:31 AM
French Lick - Chicago Tribune March 31, 1918

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/French%20Lick%20Plan%20-%20Chicago%20Daily%20Tribune%20March%2031%201918_zpsxw5e9ztr.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 12, 2015, 07:17:35 PM

Sven posted this overlay of Multnomah:

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Multnomah%20GC%20Plan_zpsudncfi0z.png)




I came across another view:


(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/578/22785570420_40630cd2d8_o.jpg)


The city offered a prize for the best design and the first layout was by Henry I. Jones and it was said that Vernon Macan might give it a go. The city was looking to have the course designed by a Portland architect, but the final plan was by H.Chandler Egan. The course may have also been known as West Hills. It was built on a county farm that once housed the poor.


The city also had a contest to name the course:


(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5831/22555792788_ecc1dc55cb_o.jpg)



There was a plaster cast made of the property for the contestants to look at. Here's the topo:


(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/769/22960553772_542edaeec0_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on November 13, 2015, 09:51:55 AM
1922 Plan for Franklin Park-Boston


(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/D9F99816-A42E-4E63-B252-E02C99979D33_zps8di9winn.jpg)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 13, 2015, 03:04:03 PM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5641/22991507155_700a5f291b_o.jpg)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 13, 2015, 03:31:35 PM
Memphis CC -30 years between views.


(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5824/23003052491_f0b8025e92_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 13, 2015, 04:00:39 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on November 13, 2015, 04:57:57 PM
Jim -


I would be curious to hear why you think golf journals and newspapers carried so many course routings in the the first decades of the 20th century. They appear rarely today.


I am tempted to say it has to do with the internet, but it can't be that simple.


Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on November 13, 2015, 05:26:22 PM
Bob,

No television so newspapers.had to provide visual stimulation, IMHO.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 13, 2015, 06:20:41 PM
Bob,


No TV, as Mike mentioned, but golf was becoming extremely popular and lots of folks were becoming interested. There are pages and pages describing the goings-on at numerous clubs, tons of reporting on the results of matches and tournaments, and new clubs were being introduced to the public through these print sources. What better way to do it than with drawings of holes, routing diagrams, clubhouses, etc..


What's really 'neat' is that many of them had to be drawn by staff artists, not just reproduced from originals.

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on November 13, 2015, 07:37:56 PM
I don't disagree with the above. But Jim hints at something else. The drawings are more than just communicating information about a golf course.


Maybe I'm over-thinking this, but there is a strong whiff of class braggadocio in these drawings. They signal to everyday newspaper readers that some of your friends in the area have invested a lot of money in land and built a golf course. It's a version of a society page that appears in the sports pages. It's a peek into what the local toffs are up to, not unlike a series of pictures of a fancy formal ball.


None of which is to suggest that I don't enjoy this long thread. I do enormously.


My point is only that that the proliferation of published course routings then and their absence now strikes me as as interesting in ways that aren't immediately obvious. These routings weren't published to satisfy a popular interest in golf architecture. They were were published for other reasons.


Bob




         
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 13, 2015, 07:48:06 PM

Nice layout - Bill wasn't diddel-ing around, the course was 6,563 yards.
 (https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5793/22576877607_53d0376f70_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 14, 2015, 04:28:43 PM
North Shore CC  - Glenview, Illinois


(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5814/22600142677_46c6be80ce_b.jpg)




ACC - Portland, Oregon

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5722/23004754162_62013000cf_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Matthew Rose on November 15, 2015, 12:51:33 AM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5641/22438360669_d4e9dcc534_o.jpg)


The article accompanying the drawing says this course in Lincoln Nebraska was only going to be temporary, so the greens were sand, but there is still an 18 hole course at the site.


The completed 27 holes at Pioneer:


(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5751/22459925238_babfbe741a_o.jpg)




Wow, thanks for this. I used to go to the park when I was little, and I worked and played here in college. I always knew that there had been a third nine at one time, but I have never actually seen the plans for it. The practice range now sits where the first and second holes on the auxiliary nine were.


Otherwise the 18 hole course more or less exists just as drawn here, although there are no bunkers on the course anywhere, and I don't believe there has ever been a pond near the 14th green as long as I've known.


I also thought that the nines were originally reversed.... but they've flipped the nines at least twice in the last 30 years. I seem to recall when I worked there that they switched them every 10 years or so to even out play.







Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 15, 2015, 10:41:04 AM
Western Hills GC (Cincinnati, OH) - Cincinnati Enquirer March 16, 1913

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Western%20HIlls%20-%20Cincinnati%20Enquirer%20March%2016%201913_zpssv5c7k9f.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Dan Moore on November 15, 2015, 10:48:46 AM
Do we know what the oldest routing map in the United States?  The oldest I have seen for Chicago is the 1897 map for the 18 hole course of the Chicago Golf Club in Wheaton. Are there any others in the United States which predate that one?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 15, 2015, 12:18:18 PM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5748/22554036588_82e4224b75_o.jpg)


(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5787/23003685855_8698133f9f_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 15, 2015, 01:18:41 PM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5818/22418954094_8239994389_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on November 15, 2015, 02:07:24 PM
Jim,

Thanks...it was always a mystery as to the designer of Hagerstown
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 15, 2015, 02:22:50 PM
Do we know what the oldest routing map in the United States?  The oldest I have seen for Chicago is the 1897 map for the 18 hole course of the Chicago Golf Club in Wheaton. Are there any others in the United States which predate that one?


There was an 1896 map of Shinnecock that was printed in a number of papers.  I've seen an 1895 map of Belmont Springs floating around.  The earliest might be from a June 18, 1895 The Sun article which has maps of Morris County, St. Andrew's, Baltusrol, Tuxedo and Lakewood (see post #78 in this thread, courtesy of Joe Bausch).


Sven
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: DMoriarty on November 15, 2015, 04:23:26 PM
Sven and Dan,  Not sure whether it is the oldest routing map, but here is a routing map of the William Davis routing of Shinnecock Hills from around August of 1891:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/dmoriarty/Golf%20Courses/Shinnecock18910815Map.png?t=1292726802)

Here is a routing map of Willie Dunn's 12 hole version (and adjacent 9 hole Women's Course) from 1893.  Note the contour lines:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/dmoriarty/Golf%20Courses/1893Shinnecockwcontours.jpg?t=1292726880)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Niall C on November 16, 2015, 08:41:42 AM
Out of interest what is the oldest plan with fairways edges shown by a line ?


Niall
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on November 16, 2015, 09:36:50 AM
Niall,


I am not sure what the oldest map with fairway lines is and I haven't gone through every map on this thread.  However, I do recall being amazed by the detail on the 1898 version of Royal St. George's Golf Club.  You can view this map in Reply #347.  Are there any layouts older than this one, showing the lines of the fairways? 


Bret
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on November 16, 2015, 10:01:51 AM
Benjamin Hall-Blyth's map of the New Course dates to 1894. I understand that there are drawings of Westward Ho! and perhaps Hoylake that date to the mid 1880's.


It is hard to know whether these older maps are pre- or post-construction. We know that Hall-Blyth's is pre-construction because it is the map submitted to parliament for the approval of the R&A's purchase of the golfing grounds of TOC and surrounding property.


Whether other early maps were meant to guide the construction of the course or reflected the course as-built is hard to sort.


Bob




Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Niall C on November 16, 2015, 10:40:28 AM
Brett


It was actually that plan that I was thinking of when I posed the question. During the Scott Taylor saga I had suggested that the Road Hole sketch was outwith the time it purported to be from because it showed the fairway line which wasn't the done thing back then (IMO) and Mike C had posted the plan as a reposte of sorts. However if you look at the plan closely it differentiates between rough and fairway by using a symbol to represent long grass with the absence of any symbol for the short grass/fairway areas, and there is no actual line to represent the fairway boundary. I suspect that the plan also had a coloured wash to represent the different areas.


Bob


If I recall the BHB plan rightly it shows the course as one continuous stretch, hole after hole, rather than individual hole fairways. As you suggest the purpose likely was to show the extent of the playing area relative to the ownership boundaries. Not sure I've seen the Westward Ho and Hoylake plans but if they were in the Golfing Annuals/Handbooks of the time then I think they were just routing drawings but could be wrong.


Niall 
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on November 16, 2015, 11:35:36 AM
Niall -


Do you know where one might find a good digital copy of BHB's map of the New? The reproductions I've seen in books are not very good. The original is huge and I assume requires a special scanning machine.


Given the absence of clearly defined fairways on TOC at the time, I'm not sure why drawings of the New would show them.


Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 16, 2015, 06:44:36 PM

From the Balsam's site:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/767/23073404375_2ab26587bb_o.jpg)




Elk's course by Donald Ross  -  Wyandot GC - Ohio
http://billlisassportinglife.blogspot.com/
(Story is in the 2014 archive)


(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5694/22453634053_c941de4f11_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 16, 2015, 07:24:00 PM
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/639/23075650725_2da5fc460e_c.jpg)]
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Niall C on November 17, 2015, 08:59:50 AM
Niall -


Do you know where one might find a good digital copy of BHB's map of the New? The reproductions I've seen in books are not very good. The original is huge and I assume requires a special scanning machine.


Given the absence of clearly defined fairways on TOC at the time, I'm not sure why drawings of the New would show them.


Bob


Bob


I had a look in Scott MacPhersons book last night but the BHB plan he has is of all the courses. The plan you refer to (I think) hangs in the new Links clubhouse for the New/Jubilee courses, or at least it used to. Or perhaps its a copy of what's in the R&A clubhouse. If I ever get in there I'll let you know !


It might be worth getting in touch with Scott as he might be able to send what he's got.


Niall
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on November 17, 2015, 09:35:35 AM
Niall,

I don't recall the source of this 1888 drawing but came across it this morning looking up something else in my files.   

If nothing else I think it at least suggests that there were areas through the green that were specially prepared in contrast to the surrounding rough areas.   Crude Mowers?  Sheep?   Got me.

But it does differ from the common stick drawings in that regard, much like the later ones you mentioned from Royal St. George's.


(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5662/22698730629_c40fbcb1d1_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on November 17, 2015, 10:12:55 AM
Thanks Mike. Good find.


My guess is that the Troon drawing is of the course as-built.


What are the earliest pre-construction drawings? I have always assumed that BHB's of the New was not the earliest. But maybe it is?


Bob     
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Niall C on November 17, 2015, 10:45:41 AM
Mie


Many thanks for that. I think I have seen that before but not sure where, in the club history book perhaps ? As Bob says it looks like an as built drawing. While the plan says 1888 (the year the course became 18 holes), I'm not entirely convinced that it was produced then but was maybe a later plan showing how the course was back then. What is interesting is that it shows a continuous course rather than individual hole fairways which is similar to how I remember the BHB plan of the New course. As you say, I don't think they would be relying entirely on sheep for cutting the grass and I suspect that they were using horse drawn gang mowers about then.


Bob


I recall Tom Paul asked that very question on here but I'm not sure he got a satisfactory answer. Certainly there were routing plans produced, either side of the Atlantic, before BHB did his plan for the New course but the question is whether they were produced after or before the courses were built/laid out. Given how elementary a lot of construction was back then compared to now, how much use would a plan have been for building purposes ? What I mean by that is when were plans produced for construction purposes ? I know (or at least I think I do) that Old Tom and Archie Simpson did separate plans for Cruden Bay in the mid 1890's prior to construction but I think that was more for consideration by the railway company to decide which plan to go with.


Niall
 
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Rees Milikin on November 17, 2015, 06:14:25 PM
Howey GC (FL) - 1917 Routing

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Howey%20-%201917%20Layout_zpss0cntjvm.png)


Sven,


Do you have an idea who drew this routing and where it is from?



Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 17, 2015, 07:36:49 PM
Rees-

No idea.

Sven
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 17, 2015, 08:41:25 PM
Rees,
One place you can find it is here:


http://floridahistoricgolftrail.com/courses/mission-inn-resort/?alttemplate=FeaturedCoursePage
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on November 18, 2015, 08:50:21 AM
Niall,

Thanks for your thoughts on the Troon map.   I wish I could recall where I came across it!   :-\

I found a few things of interest in trying to "date" it.   First, the key gives yardage from each green to the next by their hole names, not their numbers.   The course total is listed as "Total Lin Yds. 5856 or 3 miles 1 furlong 156 yards".   The map is also to a very precise scale.

The map also seems to have been functionally utilized as it indicates the "High Water Mark of Ordinary Spring Tides".   

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Niall C on November 18, 2015, 11:15:27 AM
Mike


I strongly suspect it is based on an Ordnance Survey map hence the reference to the high water mark, and the shoreline and railway detail. The total linear yardage is interesting in that it refers to the distance in miles which was the custom back then. Not sure I can recall a contemporary reference to the distance of the course given in yards (speaking from memory, could easily be wrong) which does suggest to me that it was made sometime after 1888.


Without knowing where the plan came from its hard to say for definite.


Niall
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on November 18, 2015, 01:03:35 PM
Niall,

I'll do some digging to see if I can't source it...thanks
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on November 18, 2015, 05:20:27 PM
It appears possible from what I've been able to learn that the Troon map in question appeared in "The Golfing Annual 1888-89 which on page 62 carries a 'Plan of Troon Links'.

This Annual was evidently published in the spring of 1889.   Does anyone have a copy of the Annual who can verify that the map is one and the same one as what I produced here earlier?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 18, 2015, 10:30:12 PM
Mike,
It's online - contents say there's an illustration of the course & clubhouse, but only the clubhouse appears.


https://archive.org/stream/golfingannual18802baucuoft#page/n81/mode/2up
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on November 19, 2015, 09:21:26 AM
Jim,

Thanks for that link.   It's interesting that the drawing of Troon isn't the only one missing in the electronic copy of the book, but the drawings of Carnoustie, Littlestone, et.al. are missing as well.

My understanding is that this was produced through 1910.   I wonder if any of the others including the drawing(s)?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 19, 2015, 09:53:58 AM
Mike,


The map is a fold out - probably not opened when creating the ebook.


 
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on November 19, 2015, 11:02:26 AM
Jim,

That's my thought as well.   Looking at the Troon Map dated 1888 it clearly has a fold in the middle. 

While not dis-positive, it certainly seems highly possible that the map in question does go back to that time period.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on November 19, 2015, 11:44:41 AM
Jim and Mike,


The article does not show the detailed plan for Troon, however the writing does mention the plan on page 62:


"The links, as will be seen from the plan are 3 miles, 1 furlong, and 156 yards in length, the longest hole being 450 yards, and the shortest 197 yards."


Niall,


I think the biggest difference between the stick routings and detailed maps were the artists' drawing them.  There are stick routings for Royal St. George's from the 1920's that look like they were done by an 8th grader.  Then, there is the 1898 plan of Royal St. George's which looks like it was surveyed professionally.  I don't think it has as much to do with the time frame as it does with the person who was illustrating these plans.  If the clubs had the means to hire a professional surveyor, they were getting far more detail in their routing plans.


Bret



Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on November 19, 2015, 11:57:14 AM
Bret,

Thanks for your feedback and observations.  I've only had a moment to scan the link to the Annual that Jim provided.

From a private email shared with me recently I learned that;

Minute of Troon Golf Club 7th January 1888 states that, in reply to a request from a person at Kintyre Golf Club for a copy of a course plan, "no such plan existed".

Minute of Troon Golf Club 16th March 1889 mentions that "an offer from the editor of The Golfing Annual be accepted, to inset in the forthcoming annual a full sized plan of the links".

Given the dimensions in the written portion of the Annual match those on the map, I believe it is highly likely that the map in question was indeed produced in 1889, or even 1888.

To my knowledge, this would therefore be the first map I've seen where something akin to "fairways", or "prepared areas through the green" are specifically indicated.   

Have you seen anything earlier in this regard?

Thanks again!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 19, 2015, 01:28:30 PM
The club chose well - the lithographers:   Maclure, Macdonald & Co.[/size] were, in Victorian times, "Ornamental Printers to the Queen". [/color]
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Niall C on November 19, 2015, 01:55:28 PM
Bret

It wasn't the stick routing plans I was referring to but plans showing fairways represented by a line round the borders.

Mike

I think you are right. If you look the plan is actually folder into sections which was how it was folded in the yearbook, or at least it is in the one I've seen. Clearly it didn't register with me before about the difference between fairways and rough, or indeed the course length in yards.

Niall
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on November 19, 2015, 02:49:58 PM
Mike, 


That map is a great find!  I have never seen a detailed map as early as that Troon Map, but I am curious what the Carnoustie, Littlestone and other maps missing from the Annual looked like?


Niall,


My bad!  I was slightly confused by your question of fairway lines. 


Bret



Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 19, 2015, 02:59:23 PM
Palos Park (Bendelow) - Chicago Tribune April 27, 1919

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Palos%20Park%20Plan%20-%20Chicago%20Daily%20Tribune%20April%2027%201919_zpsxtdrioit.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on November 19, 2015, 03:11:56 PM
This American course is from a June 23, 1894 article.  Anyone know which course this is?
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/27E55467-BC8E-4A66-8947-1A4C8677AE4B.png_zps0xzptuhe.jpeg)


The article mentions several courses, but never refers to the map.  Here is the article,  in case I missed something.


http://news.hrvh.org/veridian/cgi-bin/senylrc?a=d&d=rocklandctytimes18940623.2.104&srpos=5&e=-------en-20--1--txt-txIN-Shinny------


Bret
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 19, 2015, 03:32:47 PM
Bret,
That article appeared in at least one other newspaper at the same time. Just a guess - it seems like it's just an information piece.
 
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 19, 2015, 03:54:56 PM

Rather elaborate woodcutting went into creating this drawing.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/649/22528791284_c59db8b5d6_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 19, 2015, 08:52:31 PM
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/697/22832385070_417f4d7c6e_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 20, 2015, 01:05:44 PM
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/582/23163662951_1da93c687e_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 24, 2015, 11:06:16 AM
Des Moines G&CC - Des Moines Register Aug. 7, 1921


Plans by Warren Dickinson.

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Des%20Moines%20Plan%20-%20Des%20Moines%20Register%20Aug.%207%201921_zpssfg7qrzu.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on November 24, 2015, 11:10:47 AM
Jim,

Interesting how the original Jackson Park course played right through the "Tennis Lawn" and across the "Ball Field".   Do you think the other park visitors understood the cry of "Fore!"?  ;)

For years Philadelphia struggled in providing an area within Fairmount Park for a public golf course for much the same reason(s).   There was the fear that regular park visitors would be harmed by flying golf balls, or that golf would interrupt other more formalized games like baseball.

Then, a committee from the Golf Association of Philadelphia happened to note that the land around the relatively newly created park at Cobb's Creek might be ideal for the purpose, and since it was out at the edge of town and hardly used, voila!   

Next year will be 100 years of golf played at Cobb's Creek.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 24, 2015, 11:56:05 AM
Mike,


The article mentions a "disagreeable interruption" to the tennis players who may have to listen to the word "Fore", but it doesn't think the ball players will experience any problems.


So does anyone know whose routing is shown in the first set of plans for CC? - Vardon's?


The map is interesting, can you post it here?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on November 24, 2015, 02:05:04 PM
Jim,

There was a rumor that Vardon was going to design a public course for Philadelphia in Fairmount Park during his visit here in the spring of 1900.   

At around the same time a committee of amateurs of the Golf Association of Philadelphia selected a site in Fairmount Park near Belmont Mansion and laid out a 2,850 yard nine hole course and presented the map of same to Jesse T. Vogdes who was the Chief Engineer of the park.   While the matter was being determined within the city, this committee suggested that perhaps a professional could do a better job and suggested perhaps Tom Dunn, Willie's brother.

The men on the committee included, George Fowle, who did much design of the early Philly Country Club, Samuel Heebner, who did likewise for Philly Cricket, Rodman Griscom and C.S Farnum of Merion, and William P. Smith of Huntingdon Valley.   The Philadelphia Inquirer article from 1900 mentioning the men of this committee noted, "It was recognized that men experienced with the laying out and maintenance of club courses would be in an excellent position to have valuable ideas in regard to laying out a public course."  

We have their Committee report but don't have their map, unfortunately.   Their report notes; "We do not say that this is the best possible course that could be laid out upon the ground mentioned, but it would be a very good one.   Many changes that would improve the course might be made by a professional golfer devoting more study to this question on the ground."

This was all for naught as the course was never built due to some of the reasons I previously mentioned.

Cobb's Creek was not identified as a potential site for a public course until the early spring of 1913.   During that season, GAP appointed a Committee of Hugh Wilson, George Crump, Ab Smith, and William Slattery to locate a site for a public course within the parks system.   At first they again recommended a site near Belmont Mansion and the familiar objections were again raised.

At a meeting of the Fairmount Park Commission in June, 1913, the Committee had an alternative.   It was reported;

"The proposed golf course in Cobb's Creek Park is a tract of land in the northern end and is described by the Committee as an ideal site..."

It took another year or so for monies to be appropriated but while that was happening, GAP again named a committee to help the city design and build the golf course, with much of the design work happening in 1914, although the project wasn't officially announced as a "go" until the January 1915 GAP Annual Meeting, at which time the plans were made public, including the final approved routing.

The Committee named to design and build the course, again based on their individual prior experience in such matters at their own respective clubs included;

Hugh Wilson - Merion
George Crump and Dr. Simon Carr - Pine Valley
Ab Smith - Huntingdon Valley
Franklin Meehan - North Hills
George Klauder - Aronimink

The plan we located recently in city archives was identified as Plan #6 although it wasn't dated.   So far, we have only located this earlier one and the one that was approved that includes Jesse T. Vogdes signature citing approval dated in early 1915.

Here's Plan 6;

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/770/22913591759_a9516c5103_b.jpg[/img)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Phil Young on November 24, 2015, 04:06:51 PM
"Proposed Golf Course Old Elm Club" (Also see the thread "An Old Elm Conundrum..." for more info on this)
(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo90/PhiltheAuthor/image5_zpsqstdu6xs.jpg) (http://s364.photobucket.com/user/PhiltheAuthor/media/image5_zpsqstdu6xs.jpg.html)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 27, 2015, 01:39:01 PM
Grand Hotel Course on Mackinac Island (Chicago Daily Tribune June 30, 1918) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Grand%20Hotel%20Mackinac%20-%20Chicago%20Daily%20Tribune%20June%2030%201918%201_zpsrik081op.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 27, 2015, 03:09:05 PM
Bendelow's plan for the Hamilton County GC (lka Maketewah CC).

Cincinnati Enquirer Dec. 25, 1910 -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Hamilton%20County%20-%20Cinncinati%20Enquirer%20Dec.%2025%201910%201_zps0ubywjoy.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 27, 2015, 04:15:01 PM
Hickory Hills GC (Springfield, MO) - April 25, 1926 Springfield Missouri Republican

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Hickory%20Hills%20Plan%20-%20Springfield%20Missouri%20Republican%20April%2025%201926_zpspy7cvvnj.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 27, 2015, 09:03:51 PM
Sven,
The index is lagging a bit. Hickory Hills can be found at #868.




(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/585/23251064512_d8ae87a567_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 27, 2015, 09:51:58 PM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5640/23277622201_db49cb9ecb_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 27, 2015, 11:05:29 PM
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/690/22734229843_b79ef5da41_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 28, 2015, 06:12:39 PM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5810/22752629014_ebedb51c39_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 28, 2015, 06:44:56 PM
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/764/23299000291_3eab362c8d_c.jpg)
 
Found the 18 hole layout for Portland. Can't remember reading where a group of members
canned the plans an architect provided them and went about laying out a new course by themselves.


(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5768/23089331870_4fb80f8220_c.jpg)[size=78%]                                         [/size]
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 28, 2015, 07:39:56 PM

Had these kicking around - don't think I posted them before.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/726/23086460270_3e6dddf89f_c.jpg)


(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/573/23086460300_9428af3988_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Anthony Gholz on November 28, 2015, 09:21:26 PM

Jim:


Love your posts, but noted especially your Diddel drawings up today (Gladstone is wonderful).  He was the architect for the changes to Black River CC, the course I grew up on in Port Huron, Michigan.  He added six and revised 2 others in 1955 (constructed 1956).  My favorite complete Diddel course is also in Michigan: Forest Lake in Bloomfield that I have had many opportunities to play.  Designed in 1926 and revised by him later, it's a first class golden age course with three (of 4) great par-3s.  I could not find any of his drawings either of BR for my book and only recently saw my first actual blueprint of a green construction drawing of his, Kenwood CC.  I understand from Bill A and others that most of his production ended in a dumpster.  Unfortunately the dead for several of my searches.


Your posts typically show the source (thank you for that!), but not for all.  Specifically Pleasant Run says built by AW, but do you know if he designed it as well? or maybe Bill D, as Indianapolis and date might work. Are you a Diddel fan or only come at him from the drawing side?


Thanks. Tony

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 28, 2015, 09:58:23 PM
Anthony,
Never played a Diddel course, but you gotta love a guy who was able to spend his entire life creating solid golf courses, could shoot lower than his age when in his '80s, and was Pete Dye's mentor.  ;D [size=78%]   [/size]
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on November 28, 2015, 10:40:07 PM

Perseverance best describes Galveston Golf Club. They built a clubhouse that was washed away in a storm which also deposited 1 to 4 feet of sand (probably not too bad) over their grounds.
They built a 'hut'  to use as a temporary clubhouse and then proceeded to scratch out 5 holes for golf. A few years later they had a very nice clubhouse and a 9 hole course, all done with labor from within the club.
They didn't stop there. They relocated around 1918/19 and hired Donald Ross to build them an 18 hole course (NLE). The plan of that one was posted by Joe Bausch and can be found at reply #637. In 1946 another storm convinced them to relocate once again, no more Ross, but still going strong. 

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5718/22756103844_0028c80ae7_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 03, 2015, 06:21:04 PM

Juniata Valley Colony Club - from a '20s brochure.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5818/23135403859_d4539fa352_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 03, 2015, 06:28:31 PM

Fairly extensive irrigation from the '20s
  (https://farm1.staticflickr.com/593/23394970372_4ba70147cf_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 04, 2015, 06:30:25 PM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5790/22898437453_62197f4e21_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 10, 2015, 03:34:24 PM
Schifferdecker GC (Joplin, MO) aka Joplin Municipal GC - original 9 holes by Dewey Longworth

June 25, 1922 Joplin Globe

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Schifferdecker%20Plan%20-%20Joplin%20Globe%20June%2025%201922_zpskq7piee5.png)




Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Anthony Gholz on December 10, 2015, 04:12:47 PM
Jim:


Awesome find regarding The CCD.  This is the earliest drawing I've seen of Alison's 1926 new course for the CCD.  I will try to overlay the 1948 aerial I have of the course and compare.


I also have a couple Wendell Miller promo letter's from the 20s.  I'll try to find and send to you separately. 


BTW, My screen doesn't get the entire drawing.  Is that just me or can someone tell me how to get it.


Thanks.
Tony
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 11, 2015, 06:08:01 PM

Ross design - never built

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5835/23388844880_29693abac4_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on December 12, 2015, 01:25:53 PM
Jim -


What is the city, state that appears just below the course name? I can't read it.


Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 12, 2015, 01:35:30 PM

Bob,

That would be Gainesville Ga.


There's a "Desota St'" and a bit north of Gainesville there is Desoto Falls. Could not find anything else.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on December 12, 2015, 01:58:36 PM
That's what I thought it said. Interesting. First I have heard of the project. I will do some digging. It's possible the site is now under Lake Lanier.


Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 12, 2015, 02:12:20 PM
The date is 1932, could be another casualty of the GD.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Rees Milikin on December 12, 2015, 04:39:08 PM
That's what I thought it said. Interesting. First I have heard of the project. I will do some digging. It's possible the site is now under Lake Lanier.


Bob

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 12, 2015, 07:27:43 PM
There's a 9 hole map of Hinsdale back at #825. Here's the 18 holes:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/709/23681980486_140cfb988f_o.jpg)

and a few photos:

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5738/23340312239_e9bdb01755_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 12, 2015, 07:42:04 PM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5623/23626274101_030a598b1b_o.jpg[/img)
                                                  Looking out over the Wollaston Links - Summer 1919


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 13, 2015, 02:20:51 PM
Wilmington Golf Club (NLE), built by Ralph Barton in 1928.  The photo is from a copy of the original plan, and both are in the collection at the Wilmington Historical Society, Wilmington Vermont.

Barton used David R. Bates to do the survey and draw this map: 

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5795/23075531983_edcd861015_o.jpg)

Julie Moore heads up the WHS and she also produced an article about the course that included descriptions of the holes:


(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5736/23713336891_d69aa9cc2b_o.jpg)


The article mentions Barton at Greenfield CC, and who knew that he also designed Yale!  :o ::)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/630/23769677566_9e751b35ee_o.jpg)


(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5665/23687340202_4ac10ea5d8_o.jpg)


(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/741/23713352081_5e935fb2c8_o.jpg)



Sven Nilsen had a thread on Barton a while back that asked a question in the last reply. 
Here are a few enlargements of the greens at WGC, a solo effort by Barton. These, and the hole descriptions, probably answer it. 
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,58054.msg1359136.html#msg1359136 (http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,58054.msg1359136.html#msg1359136)

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WGC  was a community effort, a company was formed and shares were issued. It was laid out on property owned  by Mr. M. A. Brown . The club bought an old house that belonged to a Mr. Barnard to use as a temporary clubhouse. Their long range plans for a new building, along with the addition of tennis courts and other amenities, never came to be. The club went out of business shortly after it was built due to the depression.
   
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After we left the WHS we headed over to the site, but it was pretty soft and muddy so we couldn't go trudging around the property. We got a few snapshots while standing on what we later (halfway home  ::) ) realized was the green for the 9th hole, the reversed Redan. The first photo is looking to the southeast, approximately at the point where the 1st & 8th greens were located, along with the tee box for the Redan. The second photo is looking at the Redan from its low side.

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The property today:
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All in all, it was a fun day in Wilmington. Thanks go to my friend Peter Barrett for his company and his camera work, and a special thanks to Julie Moore who could not have been more patient with us.

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: DMoriarty on December 14, 2015, 12:40:56 PM
Fascinating stuff, Jim.  Thanks for putting forth the effort.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on December 14, 2015, 12:52:58 PM
Awesome report, Jim...thanks!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Rick Shefchik on December 14, 2015, 01:00:22 PM
Jim, Ralph Barton insisted to his dying day that he did the lion's share of the design work at Yale. I didn't think he was able to persuade many people of his authorship, but maybe that wasn't the case back in 1928, as the story says he's "known throughout New England for his work in designing the Yale Golf Course." Too bad we'll never know where the reporter got that knowledge -- from others in the golf community, or from Barton himself.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 14, 2015, 06:10:02 PM
Thanks guys, we had a good time up there.


Rick,
Hard to nail down his reasoning for the Yale claim. Was he telling the truth?, inflating his contributions?, padding his resume?, or figuring that no one would correct him as that could get pretty messy.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 14, 2015, 06:12:14 PM

Lake Shore - Glencoe, Il. - 1911    the date in the caption is incorrect)

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 14, 2015, 06:15:37 PM
Hard to read, but I think the date was 1929 for this Olmsted/Ross plan.


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 14, 2015, 06:37:13 PM

      More Lake Shore - The golf course plan, topo of the property, and the irrigation plan.

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 15, 2015, 04:59:41 PM
Sorry, no date for this. The nine holes are at the top of the photo. It's now 18, and called Beverly Golf and Tennis Club.
Looks like many of the hole corridors were retained for the 18 hole course, when comparing it to a modern map.

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 15, 2015, 05:10:03 PM
Jim:


The course dates from around 1914 and was laid out by "J. Ellis."  Looks like 9 more holes were added around 1926.


One of a number of "factory courses," where a golf course was built for the enjoyment of the workers.  McGregor GC in Dayton, OH was another.


Sven
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 15, 2015, 07:06:12 PM
Sven,
In a reply on the "George Wright" thread Brad Tufts said that the 18 hole version was a Stiles course.
That would be the 1926 course?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Anthony Gholz on December 16, 2015, 03:44:17 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 16, 2015, 07:55:46 PM

Said to be the first muni west of Chicago.

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 19, 2015, 03:41:11 PM

Course layout & irrigation plan for Park Hill GC in Denver. The course is still there but it's been rearranged. 

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/622/23520729320_8e69904011_o.jpg)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 19, 2015, 06:50:24 PM

The Kahkwa Club, Erie Pa.    Donald Ross' map of the first nine holes he built in 1917 which is now the back nine. Ross later built the present day front nine.  From the club's site.


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 21, 2015, 02:56:08 PM

Cleveland Heights - Wm. Flynn

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5807/23265026184_a15b6ec89f_o.jpg)


...and
http://floridahistoricgolftrail.com/courses/
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 23, 2015, 06:23:06 PM
More of a mystery post.  The following photo of the unveiling of the plans for a course in Massachusetts was taken from the digitalcommonwealth.com archives.


Any guesses as to the course?



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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 24, 2015, 02:35:43 PM
Not sure if this has been posted or not.

French Lick Springs - Chicago Daily Tribune March 31, 1918

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 24, 2015, 07:39:25 PM
Sven,
In a reply on the "George Wright" thread Brad Tufts said that the 18 hole version was a Stiles course.
That would be the 1926 course?


Jim:


I haven't seen anything that links Stiles and/or Van Kleek to this course.  Its not listed on the Stiles Society page and I'm pretty sure its not in the book either.


Would be interested in seeing whatever information Brad has on this.


Sven
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 29, 2015, 05:44:37 PM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5821/24026998026_bd5efe38d1_o.jpg)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on January 03, 2016, 09:58:06 AM
From the Buffalo Evening News-May 3, 1924:
Stanley Thompson's layout for Erie Downs Golf and Country Club.
Today, the course is known as Bridgewater Country Club in Fort Erie, Ontario.


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on January 03, 2016, 12:50:02 PM
I don't think I've ever seen a routing with so many features jammed together in such a small area.


I assume that spot is at the crest of a hill. Would love to see a topo.


Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Anthony Gholz on January 06, 2016, 12:14:43 PM
(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah285/agholz/DGC%20course%20DFP%20Sun%201221911_zpsgpybzfkn.jpg)


From the Detroit Free Press January 22, 1911


This is Detroit Golf Club's second course on land north of Six Mile Road and west of Woodward.  Their original course was just south of this course and south of Six Mile at the corner of Woodward Avenue.  That course was 9-holes and most likely the 1900 work of Tom Bendelow for Spalding.  DGC's two Donald Ross courses encompass the land shown west of hamilton with the addition of several acres to the north of this course to Seven Mile.  For those familiar with Detroit's relatively flat topography and mile road system, there is one mile between Six and Seven Mile Roads.  An observation that this is a very long course at 6212 for 1911.


Tony
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 06, 2016, 07:15:00 PM
Anthony:


Bendelow didn't make the move and start with Spalding until Dec. of 1900, and anything prior to that date in the midwest is suspect.  Most of his work up until then was in the Northeast, and I don't have any verifiable sources that put him further west than Pennsylvania prior to his move to Chicago.


I don't think the original 9 hole course was his work.  I'm also curious as to when the course was extended to 18 holes, as the 1901 Harper's Guide notes an 18 hole 5,992 yard course.


In 1911 Barker added a new bunker scheme prior to the Western Amateur.  I'm not sure if this map is pre- or post- the Barker work.


Sven
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on January 06, 2016, 09:26:19 PM
I don't mean to be dense, but is the map shown above a Ross routing?

Sven -

Interesting about Barker in the Chicago area in 1911. He got around. I think he was the pro at the time at the Roebuck GC in Birmingham, AL. He was doing a lot of design work with George Adair in the southeast from and after 1910. They rerouted East Lake to its current lay-out in 1912.e in 1912.

Bob 
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Anthony Gholz on January 06, 2016, 09:43:32 PM
Sven: [size=78%]I'll find John King's (DGC Historian) drawing for the first course and let that stand on its own.  I agree with your TB and Spalding comments, however, an early club history makes the reference and claim to Bendelow with another person whose name I can't recall right now.  The King drawing has both names on it. Bendelow was in Saginaw, Michigan in 1898 or '99 so he knew how to get that far.  DGC was founded in December of 1899, but the first course was not in construction until late 1900.[/size]


Bob:  No, this not the one of the Ross courses although the area of the course west of Hamilton is part of today's Ross layouts.  This course was designed and supervised by Bert Way.  Whitten says 1905 and I'm working to confirm that date. No part of the Ross layout follows this course.


Please keep the comments and questions coming.  There is still a lot to learn about TB in Michigan.
[/size][size=78%]Tony[/size]
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 06, 2016, 09:53:01 PM
Anthony:


The certainly non-contemporaneous 1939 club history notes Bendelow being assisted by Frank Thompson on the first course.  It is possible, but doesn't jive with what we know about TB.


As for Saginaw, what's your source for 1898?  He was definitely there in 1902, but I have not seen anything that confirms anything earlier than that.


For the 1905 work, the club had leased 155 acres adjoining Palmer Park in late 1904 with plans for a new 18 hole course.


Sven
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 06, 2016, 09:56:35 PM
Bertie Way's brother Ernest was the Pro at DGC in 1906 and it was he who did the construction work for Ross. He became the superintendent after the work was done


Alex Ross became the Pro when Ernest retired.


Detroit - the City of Brotherly Love.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Anthony Gholz on January 06, 2016, 09:58:03 PM
(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah285/agholz/DGC%201899-1907%20TB%20of%20Spalding%20c_zpst9xzgizk.jpg)


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Sven:


I just read your post but think I should put these items up for all to review.  The top drawing is by John King.  The information is taken from the 1940 History of Detroit Golf Club in the club's files which is shown next.  John's drawing says 1899, but that is the year the club was founded NOT when they had a golf course.  I'm still looking at period newspaper articles and trying to confirm this information from another source.  The Saginaw date is from Stuart's book, which I believe he got from the Michigan Golfer.  It's not a date confirmed by The Golf Guide.  I'll keep looking.


Tony
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 06, 2016, 10:41:41 PM
Anthony:


As well intentioned as Stuart's book is, many of the dates are wrong.  Some of the courses noted on the American Park Builders list were subscribed the date of organization of the club, when in fact Bendelow came through much later. 


I've also found Michigan Golfer to be a less than definitive source.


The map is clearly a later day interpretation of the early course.


It is my understanding that Bendelow did have an arrangement with Spalding prior to 1900, but it wasn't until 1901 that he became their in-house architect.  I'm still skeptical that he was doing work in Detroit in 1900, as his day job was in New York at Van Cortlandt (at least up until around April) and for most of that year he was accompanying Vardon on his tour of the US and Canada.


The same 1911 map you posted is included in the Dec. 1904 edition of Golf Magazine, and thus does not represent any work done by Barker.


Sven
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Anthony Gholz on January 07, 2016, 11:07:39 AM
Sven: 


Once again agree with many of your comments regarding Stuart's dates and Michigan Golfer.  Stuart is continuing to revise his its and I'm working on the Michigan side. 


I did come across an undocumented transcript regarding Reid & Connellan at the USGA last year and it covers a lot of the Detroit area scene.  I'm still trying to document half of what it said including several Bendelow overlaps. The number of designers who have worked on Birmingham CC since TB's first 9 is mind boggling.  I understand a certain gentleman well-known on these pages is reviewing the history of B'ham.  I'll be interested in seeing if he comes up with some more names for the list.  [size=78%]I'll continue to pursue info re TB in Michigan and dates, especially the Detroit area clubs where Bendelow and/or C&A are concerned (my main interest).  [/size]
[/size]
[/size][size=78%]Separately: I don't understand your Barker comment related to the DGC routing I posted.  I didn't make any comment re: Barker and DGC.  I have an interest in Barker in relation to Chicago, as he weaves in and out of the C&A connections there.[/size]


Tony
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on January 07, 2016, 11:31:54 AM
Omaha Field Club-Omaha Daily Bee-April 30, 1911:
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 07, 2016, 11:32:24 AM
Anthony:


The Barker comment was a followup to my earlier question as to whether the 1911 map showed any of his work.  As the map dates back to 1904, I was just clarifying that it predated his involvement.


I found confirmation that the first course (which started as 6 holes with 3 more being added in short order) was quickly extended to 18 holes in 1901.


It is highly possible that this is when Bendelow became involved (the timing makes sense), and the club history just lumped the 1900 and 1901 activities into one story line.


Probably makes sense for us to move these types of conversations out of this thread and into separate discussions (I'm probably the biggest culprit on this front).  As much as I enjoy the tangents these maps take us on, we're kind of taking away from Ed's focus.


Sven


Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 07, 2016, 05:10:45 PM
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Ed: Sounds like PD suffered from drainage issues from roughly 1940 until 1953.  Is this true?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on January 07, 2016, 05:37:32 PM
Jim -


That is pure gold. Clearest depiction I've seen of how Press' new 9 was integrated into Perry's original 9.


Thanks for digging it out.


Bob


Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 07, 2016, 06:24:57 PM
Glad you like it Bob.


It's only a newspaper map, but the signature is by Maxwell. The two differences in the routing between the drawing and a modern aerial seem to be the location of the 4th green, and the modern aerial #5 shows a straight away hole while the drawing shows a dogleg.   
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Rick Shefchik on January 08, 2016, 10:26:04 AM
Omaha Field Club-Omaha Daily Bee-April 30, 1911:
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An additional point of interest: those new bunkers, hazards and tees were added by William D. Clark, the head pro at Omaha Field Club, who would move to Minnesota in 1917 to become the first head pro at the Minneapolis Golf Club, where he finished Willie Park Jr.'s design. Clark would become a prolific GCA in Minnesota, designing Oak Ridge, Gross, Brookview, Columbia, Wirth and Meadowbrook before moving to Florida.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on January 12, 2016, 11:04:34 AM

Rick,
 
Thank you for the information on Omaha Field Club. 


To all:
June 3, 1894 routing of Morris County Golf Club, Morristown, NJ:
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"The links for the ladies crosses and recrosses the grounds in a confusing manner, making a distance of 1 1/4 miles.  The men's links is longer, crossing the tracks of the D. L. and W. Railroad, and covering 2 1/4 miles of country"
Link to the article:http://tinyurl.com/js2xgem (http://tinyurl.com/js2xgem)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tom Bagley on January 15, 2016, 12:16:08 PM
More of a mystery post.  The following photo of the unveiling of the plans for a course in Massachusetts was taken from the digitalcommonwealth.com archives.


Any guesses as to the course?



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My guess is Newton Commonwealth f/k/a Chestnut Hill Country Club.  The photo is from the Leslie Jones collection at the Boston Public Library.  Jones was a long-time photographer for the old Boston Herald and produced many sports-related photos of Boston area landmarks.  In comparing the map to the current Google Maps aerial image there are a lot of similarities - although I believe the golf course has been modified over the years.  Plus, it is the only Massachusetts golf course I could find that was adjacent to an "Algonquin Road" as shown on the map!   :)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 18, 2016, 09:22:18 AM
Battle Creek CC.

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on January 18, 2016, 11:10:56 AM
Unless I misread the Battle Creek map, it looks like virtually every green has a back bunker.


In light of the recent thread on the topic, interesting.


Bob




Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 19, 2016, 10:49:51 AM

Site of the first International Championship between Canada & the USA

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Anthony Gholz on January 31, 2016, 08:18:36 PM



Champlain CC Golf July 1912
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Bluff Point, VT (on Lake Champlain) Golf Illustrated July 1928
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 03, 2016, 09:32:48 AM
East Liverpool CC (OH) - June 1920

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 08, 2016, 05:18:11 AM

Donald Ross' plans #2 & 3 for the possible expansion of Pennrose Park CC.


Click to embiggen

(http://www.pennrosepark.com/pennrosepark.com/Proposed_expansion_1945_files/Pennrose%20Park%202%20ROS%20374.00.jpg)



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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Kyle Harris on February 08, 2016, 05:55:34 AM
Unless I misread the Battle Creek map, it looks like virtually every green has a back bunker.


In light of the recent thread on the topic, interesting.


Bob

Those aren't back bunkers, but the backs of the fill pads for the putting greens. There's a similar drawing method on the Penn State Golf Course routing and both are/were done by Willie Park, Jr.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Anthony Gholz on February 11, 2016, 04:08:31 PM
Belle Isle Detroit, Michigan  Most likely an Ernie Way design although not built until 1922.  A comparison with today's GE shows the entire site is still there and you can almost "see" the course routing.  This course has nothing to do with the current First Tee practice layout and course further toward the tip of the island.


(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah285/agholz/Belle%20Isle%20gc%20DFP%20Fri%201311913%20c_zpswxuqrhjz.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 12, 2016, 10:01:30 AM

Princess Anne CC - Va. - 1916


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 17, 2016, 03:51:44 PM

Click twice

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 20, 2016, 01:07:42 PM
From Bret Lawrence  Anthony Pioppi
2 clicks/big


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on February 20, 2016, 06:32:55 PM
Jim:


Anthony Pioppi sent the above map to you.  Wethersfield Country Club is celebrating their 100 year anniversary this year.  Robert D. Pryde laid out the first nine holes in 1916.  The second nine was laid out by Jack Stait (pro from Hartford Golf Club) and Syd Covington (pro at Wethersfield) in 1924. 


Stait and Covington presented the club with plans for the outside nine, according to a meeting in the Club minutes from August 8, 1924.  The board approved the plan and financing for the project.


In a July 31, 1925 meeting, a motion was made and carried to present Mr. Stait with a purse of $100 in gold and a suitable letter be written thanking him for services rendered.  The 18 hole course opened for play on Labor Day of 1925.


It's been previously noted that Robert J. Ross laid out the outside nine, but there doesn't seem to be any evidence to support this. 


Bret
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 21, 2016, 05:13:17 PM

Alameda Ca. Muni - Willie Locke - 1927.     


2 clicks/big


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(http://www.alamedainfo.com/Oakland_Berkeley_Alameda_Map_California_Automobile_Association_Close_Up_2.jpg)




Aerial view - 1939


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 22, 2016, 06:46:26 PM

Inglewood GC - 1920 - Johnstone/Macan


2 clicks/big

 

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1547/24906941450_b86063d9c4_o.jpg) (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1547/24906941450_b86063d9c4_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 24, 2016, 01:37:17 AM
Morristown, NJ
Click/big

 
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on February 24, 2016, 11:19:34 AM
Jim -


The Morristown plan is very cool. Remarkably detailed and well-drawn for plans of the period.


Again, thanks.


Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 26, 2016, 02:06:34 PM
Bob,

I was thinking the same thing when I saw that plan. I double-checked to make sure I was looking at a 1903 issue and not one from 1933.

Jim
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 29, 2016, 05:17:19 PM
Linville Park / Linville GC - the Donald Ross course from a 1926 brochure created by the Linville Improvement Company. The link will take you to a map of the rest of the site, which includes about a dozen holes of the original course that was on the property. I counted a dozen or so shots that either crossed another hole or roadway on the old course.  :)   

http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/ncmaps/id/9545/rec/25

2 clicks for big

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 05, 2016, 06:12:19 PM

2 clicks = big


(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1577/25446012971_7c30cebdb2_o.jpg) (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1577/25446012971_7c30cebdb2_o.jpg)
                                                                                should read - 1899                       
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 05, 2016, 06:39:21 PM



Near Lakewood New Jersey
2 clicks = big


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                                                                                should read - 1899
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 05, 2016, 07:11:45 PM

A little oasis near Albany, NY


2 clicks = big

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                                                                                                           should read  -1899
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 06, 2016, 11:28:49 PM
2 clicks = big


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 06, 2016, 11:36:28 PM

Had to look up "Kite Track". 
  http://xwebapp.ustrotting.com/absolutenm/templates/hoofbeats_blog.aspx?articleid=37906&zoneid=75 (http://xwebapp.ustrotting.com/absolutenm/templates/hoofbeats_blog.aspx?articleid=37906&zoneid=75)


2 clicks = big
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                                                                                     Should read - 1899
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on March 06, 2016, 11:39:15 PM

They never ran out of ammo when playing here:


2clicks = big


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on March 07, 2016, 12:02:02 PM
Great stuff, Jim!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on April 04, 2016, 05:24:57 PM
Richmond Hill GC
2clicks=big


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The article which accompanied the plan. One click makes it readable.

http://tinyurl.com/jrrlyr3 (http://tinyurl.com/jrrlyr3)




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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on April 04, 2016, 08:18:55 PM
Topeka Country Club-1921 Langford & Moreau layout from the Daily State Journal: May 7, 1921:
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Anthony Gholz on April 05, 2016, 10:41:43 AM
This is definitely not the quality of a L&M, however it is a routing map.  From the Detroit Free Press January 15, 1928.


(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah285/agholz/Golf%20crs%20puzzle%20Sun%201151928%20c_zpsda4m0usy.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on April 06, 2016, 04:40:01 PM

From the Boston Sunday Post, Oct 6th, 1901 - a hypothetical plan by A. G. Lockwood for a golf course on farmland in New England. 
He details his thinking in the article found here:
http://tinyurl.com/jxwxvpz (http://tinyurl.com/jxwxvpz)


2 clicks = big


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on April 06, 2016, 08:37:53 PM
Jim -


A remarkable late Victorian drawing. The newspaper article is illegible on my computer. Any way to sharpen the focus on it?


Thanks for this.


Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on April 06, 2016, 09:54:55 PM

Bob,
Try this. Click on the article and it should go directly to the page where you can enlarge it, if all goes well.
http://tinyurl.com/z85tlyb
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on April 07, 2016, 09:38:20 AM
Much better.  Thanks.


Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on April 07, 2016, 10:25:19 AM
Arthur G. Lockwood designed the first nine holes for Brookside CC in Pottstown, PA.   Today's 18 hole course incorporates some of his original holes but is largely a William/David Gordon production.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on June 02, 2016, 10:31:14 AM
Yellowstone GC (Livingston, MT)

Anaconda Standard Sept. 2, 1900

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Yellowstone%20GC%20Plan%20-%20Anaconda%20Standard%20Sept.%202%201900_zpsjvzwybtb.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MClutterbuck on June 02, 2016, 11:11:56 AM
San Andrés Golf Club, Buenos Aires, Argentina - Mungo Park - 1907


(http://i.imgur.com/H0BLUjM.jpg)


Substantially different course as seen today. The last big transformation was 1960 when the lake was covered.


(http://i.imgur.com/TTpjlEl.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on June 02, 2016, 12:35:40 PM
Timpanogos GC, Provo, UT (Salt Lake Tribune - June 1, 1950)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Timpanogos%20-%20Salt%20Lake%20Tribune%20June%201%201950_zpshach9dgl.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on June 02, 2016, 02:32:58 PM
Sim Park GC - Wichita, KS (Wichita Daily Eagle Jan. 8, 1922)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Sim%20Park%20Plan%20-%20Wichita%20Daily%20Eagle%20Jan.%208%201922_zpsir2dw3ew.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Pat Burke on June 02, 2016, 04:57:40 PM


This site is now a county park.  Used to be Ocean County County Park, I believe it was part of an estate...Rockefeller maybe?
Brick High School was right down the street, I graduated in 1980, and that geometric corridor was still there.  I always wanted to hit drives down that row of trees!  It always looked like a course to me, I was excited when I found an old aerial that showed a couple greens.  Thanks for posting this Jim!



Near Lakewood New Jersey
2 clicks = big


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                                                                                should read - 1899
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on June 10, 2016, 09:25:07 AM
Gearhart Golf Links - 1914 George Turnbull 18 hole layout

Oregon Daily Journal March 15, 1914 -

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on June 13, 2016, 12:29:40 AM
CC of Lincoln

Lincoln Star - Dec. 30, 1917

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on October 01, 2016, 03:44:55 PM

From Chris Clouser 2006 interview at GCA

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on October 06, 2016, 07:48:47 PM

A drawing of Hoylake during the Sphere and Tatler Foursomes Tournament of 1912, with the play described by A. C.M. Croome and drawn by G. T. Stephenson.   S&TFT was a professional event played annually from 1911 to 1914, and most likely ceased to exist due to the war. Total prize money - £350, plus each winner received a silver trophy which was provided by the owners of the two magazines.


(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8127/30157304295_232b168ce6_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MWU4Uk)


An article about the match:
https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=uA8-AAAAIBAJ&sjid=20kMAAAAIBAJ&pg=5148%2C2240187 (https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=uA8-AAAAIBAJ&sjid=20kMAAAAIBAJ&pg=5148%2C2240187)


The winners:
James Sherlock
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George Duncan
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on October 06, 2016, 09:10:33 PM
Jim -


Interesting to see Hoylake at the time. There are still lots of cross bunkers. But also what appear to be earhworks or ramparts straddling a couple of fw's. Is that what they look like to you? All that had disappeared by the 1920's, I think.


Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on October 07, 2016, 06:17:21 AM
Bob,
That seems to be what they are, earthworks, but it sounds like many of them are still in play:

A landscape feature unique to Hoylake is the presence of a number of ‘cops’ within the site around which the golf course has (throughout its evolution) played over, around or alongside. The ‘cops’ marked and delineated the old field boundary lines and can be best described as raised, turf-covered dykes (walls) forming low, linear ridges. Over time such has been their significance to the site that they have been incorporated into many of the holes, informing both hole design and strategy.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Adam Lawrence on October 07, 2016, 06:31:16 AM
That is absolutely fabulous Jim. Gives a wonderful indication of the course before Mr Colt got to work. Plus it is the best image I have ever seen of how the old Dowie (seventh hole) played. You can really see how close the out of bounds cop was to the green. Easy to understand Darwin's line about how everyone slices at the Dowie out of pure fear.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Matt Dawson on October 07, 2016, 07:01:10 AM
Adam - I recall the difficulty of that 7th hole tee shot vividly. Every time I played it the wind was seemingly off the right and slightly helping. For the right-hander hitting a long iron it was just deathly. I remember seeing the plans to change it in the clubhouse, and sort of wondering why.

For sheer difficulty it was matched only by the second shot to the old 17th green, long and skinny pushed tight up against the OOB fence on the right. And I mean so tight you could have putted off the green onto the road...
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Adam Lawrence on October 07, 2016, 07:13:56 AM
Matt -- yeah, the old Royal green was built by Colt in the 20s. But the history of the Dowie is something that really interests me, because back in the day it was regarded as one of the greatest one shot holes -- but out of bounds as a hazard became unfashionable, so it was changed.


I remember talking to Peter Thomson about the hole. Here's my piece on the Dowie from GCA:


http://www.golfcoursearchitecture.net/content/the-dumbing-down-of-dowie (http://www.golfcoursearchitecture.net/content/the-dumbing-down-of-dowie)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on October 07, 2016, 08:55:44 AM
Adam -


Great article. Thanks for linking. My hosts at Hoylake have invariably pointed out the changes to The Dowie and all seem to regret them.


Jim -


What is the 'Sphere' magazine? I've never heard of it.


Bob


 
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Adam Lawrence on October 07, 2016, 09:10:07 AM
Bob - The Sphere was connected to the Illustrated London News. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sphere_(newspaper) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sphere_(newspaper))
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on October 07, 2016, 09:24:46 AM
One other note: I don't believe Roberts was very happy w/Braid's tee shot at Dowie.  ;) 
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on October 07, 2016, 02:03:33 PM

Des Moines Golf and Country Club. I think the 2nd drawing is from ca.1923. The first is of the Bendelow layout.


The drawings and a few aerials are available at their website:
http://dmgcc.blogspot.com/2009_11_01_archive.html


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_eHkCpjAnrZQ/Sw_fwvgePyI/AAAAAAAAAEg/4KZ--pTHoiU/s1600/DMGCC+Bendelow+Golf+Course+Layout.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_eHkCpjAnrZQ/Sw_hlKGWCRI/AAAAAAAAAEw/YSTAPhaq5tA/s1600/DMGCC+Ashworth+Road.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on October 17, 2016, 10:50:27 AM
A map of South Park Golf Course ( Aug. 29, 1929 Pittsburgh Post Gazette).

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on October 18, 2016, 02:59:33 PM
Sarasota Municipal GC (aka Bobby Jones GC) - Ross 1925

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/snilsen7026/Sarasota%20Municipal%20Ross%20Plan%201925_zpsq3gc5dif.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on October 31, 2016, 10:28:08 PM
Wanakah CC - From a 1925 Buffalo Express article.


(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/snilsen7043/Wanakah%20-%20Buffalo%20Express%201925%201_zpsvaxz62nr.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Anthony Gholz on November 01, 2016, 10:33:19 AM
"Willian" on a preprinted or lettered background?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 01, 2016, 10:52:27 AM
Anthony:


At least they spelled it right in the attached article.


Sven


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on November 01, 2016, 11:55:22 AM
Unless I am misreading the map, there are a striking number of c/l bunkers. Cool.


Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 02, 2016, 02:29:18 PM
El Caballero (from Golf Architecture In America) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/ElCaballeroPlan-GAIA_zps543c47e3.png)


Another version of the El Caballero Plan:



(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/snilsen7054/El%20Caballero%20Plan_zpsklf8ogcc.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 15, 2016, 12:39:51 PM
Brookside G&CC (Pasadena, CA) fka Pasadena Municipal GC

Nov. 4, 1928 Los Angeles Times -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Pasadena%20Municipal%20Plan%20-%20Los%20Angeles%20Times%20Nov.%204%201928_zpsvthde5ms.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 04, 2016, 12:13:01 AM
Fairmede GC - Oakland Tribune, Dec. 17, 1924

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Fairmede%20-%20Oakland%20Tribune%20Dec.%2017%201924_zpsu0a0mhsc.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 04, 2016, 12:27:56 PM
Hillcrest CC  - Los Angeles Times, Jan. 28, 1924

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 11, 2016, 10:08:26 PM
Wilshire CC - Nov. 4, 1919 Los Angeles Times

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Wilshire%20Plan%20-%20Los%20Angeles%20Times%20Nov.%204%201919_zps67m5yzwk.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on April 17, 2017, 02:05:25 PM
Anaconda CC (Anaconda Standard, Montana; Aug 21, 1921).

(http://i48.tinypic.com/1zd89c.jpg)

A later version of the course - Golfdom, Nov. 1927.

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Anaconda%20Plan%20-%20Golfdom%20Nov.%201927_zpslaaj3bc9.png)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on April 26, 2017, 12:28:29 PM
Asheville Municipal - Golfdom Jan. 1928

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Asheville%20Municipal%20Plan%20-%20Golfdom%20Jan.%201928%201_zps8os4xmb4.png)(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Asheville%20Municipal%20Plan%20-%20Golfdom%20Jan.%201928%202_zps5fuhrhn6.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on April 26, 2017, 03:31:45 PM
Thanks Sven.


I wonder if similar drainage plans are of public record in county courthouses? I've never looked into it, but "waters of the state" laws might require it in some cases, for the same reasons that drawings of easements are often recorded.


Any of you real estate lawyers have any thoughts on that? If such drainage plans are recorded, county level real estate records are an overlooked source of information on old golf courses.


Bob   
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on June 09, 2017, 03:54:22 PM
Bendelow's original 9 at Minnehaha  (Argus-Leader June 21, 1912) -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Minnehaha%20-%20Argus-Leader%20June%2021%201913%201_zpsvswhhnob.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on June 10, 2017, 12:23:55 PM
The last course that Seth Raynor designed was Mid Pacific CC (aka Kailua CC), which he planned during his Dec. 1925 trip to Hawaii.  Although only 9 holes were built, the plan called for 18.  Here's a map of the 18 hole course from the Jan. 23, 1927 edition of the Honolulu Star-Advertiser.

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Mid%20Pacific%20Plan%20-%20Honolulu%20Star-Advertiser%20Jan.%2023%201927_zpsaahvgvhz.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on June 11, 2017, 08:31:22 PM


Municipal Golf Course - Donald Ross nine - plan says 1920 - club website says  inc'ed in 1935, opened in '39, and that Russell Breeden added 9.  Did the club take over the 'muni' (Depression?) in '35, add the nine, and then open as Lancaster Golf Club in '39?


(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4254/35248204305_fafdb0b54e_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on June 11, 2017, 08:49:17 PM
Sven -


I wish there was more detail in the drawing. A shame.


Jim -


Doing some research on Ross recently, I was struck with how many visits he made to cities in connection with site inspections for municipal courses. Along the way there were newspaper articles about his visit and the city officials he met with (press coverage he was less likely to get with private clubs).Ross really got around.

Bob


Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on June 13, 2017, 05:42:02 PM

Clearcrest Golf Club -1940 iteration replacing 1922 course-Evansville, IN.-
  http://www.vchshistory.org/2016/01/18/mailbag-clearcrest-golf-club/

(http://www.vchshistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/clearcrest-1940-4-14.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on June 16, 2017, 09:38:10 AM

Topeka Golf Club-October 9, 1899-Topeka state journal(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/05A22D87-7894-4FF7-9458-54988A078D8A_zpsltjhlgod.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on June 16, 2017, 09:49:00 AM

Hotchkiss School Golf Course: Layout as found on the scorecard. I'm surprised Jim never posted this one. It's been sitting right under his nose for all these years! :D


(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/C1CE423E-38B5-40FB-AF86-117C7C6B1977_zpsgdx5y69h.png)
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Post by: Jim_Kennedy on June 16, 2017, 06:17:08 PM
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Post by: MCirba on June 17, 2017, 02:20:16 PM
Sweet.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on June 25, 2017, 09:16:59 AM
Original layout of Brae Burn CC in Newton Ma, ca.1897 - from "Fifty Years Of Brae Burn" published in 1947 (hence, the title  ;D  ) 
 
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4230/34682456284_f739c72698_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on June 25, 2017, 10:59:54 AM

Forgot to post a link to the Brae Burn book, oops. There are four more maps of their layout beginning here:
  https://archive.org/stream/fiftyyearsofbrae00brae#page/72/mode/2up
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on June 25, 2017, 11:48:00 AM
Jim -

Thanks for the link. Not many histories focus as much on the golf course, so, naturally, I think it is very good. I wish more club histories had the same focus.

Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on June 29, 2017, 06:26:03 PM
Bob,


That would have been nice, and saved some folks a whole lot of angst.




Golf club of Avon, Avon CT. (formerly Avon CC)


(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4067/34777039524_93df1ea855_k.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on July 09, 2017, 04:35:56 PM
Lawrence Van Etten's plan for Wykagyl CC from 1905.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4288/35690655181_f6ce7ea38d_c.jpg)


Joe Bausch's post #168 from 1915.
(http://xchem.villanova.edu/~bausch/images/maps/Wykagyl_1915_NYEveningTelegram.jpg)


Same corridors / a few holes are at different lengths / LVE must have worked hard to get a 3150 front9 and 3150 back9 for the 1905 yardage.  :)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on August 14, 2017, 02:17:56 PM

Built in 1926, Larry Packard was the architect. The first muni in Joliet, Ill.

(http://jolietlibrary.org/sites/default/files/Woodruff%20Layout%201-2.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on September 23, 2017, 10:48:35 PM
Mayflower CC, Staten Island NY - Devereux Emmet - BDE, June 15, 1930.


(https://img.newspapers.com/img/img?id=59857717&width=557&height=305&crop=1762_383_2185_1219&rotation=0&brightness=0&contrast=0&invert=0&ts=1506220861&h=769f740e4508584f0654a0db9c7dbc20)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 02, 2017, 08:45:02 AM
Not sure if this has been posted yet.

Davis Islands GC (Tillinghast)

Tampa Tribune Feb. 11, 1927

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Davis%20Islands%20Plan%20-%20Tampa%20Tribune%20Feb.%2011%201927_zpsqd3ytcrs.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Rick Lane on November 02, 2017, 11:12:48 AM
There was an earlier picture of the Brooklawn original 9 from 1895, but here is the direct image:

(https://i.imgur.com/PzSaLwU.png?2)

And here is those nine holes laid over a google earth image of the course now.  One of the tee boxes and one of the convex greens are still "findable" from 1895
(https://i.imgur.com/tJkonDi.jpg?2)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Rick Lane on November 02, 2017, 11:38:58 AM
Here's a 1912 routing map of the 18 holes at Brooklawn from 1912.  This is essentially the routing that Tillinghast walked into in 1929, except the hole labeled 16 here was moved to the pond sometime between 1912 and 1919. 

(https://i.imgur.com/jRIVLK7.png?3)

And here is that 1912 routing laid over the 1934 aerial.  Sorry for the eye test. But you can see how Tillinghast moved things around.

(https://i.imgur.com/DMrGNUO.jpg?4)


 
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 07, 2017, 11:39:36 PM
Alderwood CC (Portland, OR) - A. Vernon Macan

The Times Herald, Aug. 15, 1937 -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Alderwood%20Plan%20-%20The%20Times%20Herald%20Aug.%2015%201937_zpsyykmhfuq.png)
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Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 10, 2017, 09:23:42 AM
Layout of the first 9 new Ross holes at Mark Twain in Elmira.

Star-Gazette, May 25, 1939

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Mark%20Twain%20Plan%20-%20Star-Gazette%20May%2025%201939_zpsxem07utv.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on November 11, 2017, 10:17:48 AM
Rick,


Thanks for posting the 1912 layout of Brooklawn.  I have never seen that before.  It appears that holes 3-10 are very similar to today's routing.  I remember several years ago Jim Kennedy posted a picture of what is today's ninth green (prior to Tillinghasts work) and it looked much like the same setting as today.  I like to see how the old courses have evolved over time.  It's very helpful when the old layout is superimposed on the old.  Thanks for sharing these.


Bret
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on November 11, 2017, 12:59:05 PM
A few Orrin Smith layouts:


From the Hartford Courant-December 1, 1929. The first nine holes of East Hartford Country Club.  The course was known as Long Hill on at least two separate occasions. Today the course is 18 holes and known as East Hartford Golf Course, East Hartford, CT:
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/22DB4099-BC54-431B-8356-D782293E9FDA_zpshgwl3iqp.jpg)


From Torrington Country Club: 1929 original accepted routing map for TCC, the nines are played in reverse today:
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/0E84F0A1-6891-4668-A4C2-EFF276440266_zpshwiwzgyf.jpg)
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/68B6D24C-6D44-4E7D-8E23-A4E8FBA26648_zpsr7wbpat1.jpg)
Here is a current view from the left side of 8 at the Torrington Country Club, looking at the eight green.
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/C299C682-96B2-4506-8D64-75289C2A8665_zpsybf7lueu.jpg)


From the Hartford Courant-1930.  Wethersfield CC layout after Orrin Smith rearranges Robert Pryde's original front nine:
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/2F86B236-CB02-4D8B-B1F6-584325281E43_zpsryrxrpdi.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Rick Lane on November 13, 2017, 05:55:10 PM
Rick,


Thanks for posting the 1912 layout of Brooklawn.  I have never seen that before.  It appears that holes 3-10 are very similar to today's routing.  I remember several years ago Jim Kennedy posted a picture of what is today's ninth green (prior to Tillinghasts work) and it looked much like the same setting as today.  I like to see how the old courses have evolved over time.  It's very helpful when the old layout is superimposed on the old.  Thanks for sharing these.


Bret


Yes, routing is nearly identical 3-10  Tilly  built the new greens generally in front of or behind the greens that were there.  We have some aerials that show this.  3 was shortened by appx 40 yards, as was 4. 5 was lengthened as was 6.  7, it appears he built the new green over the old one. 8 he moved the tee forward of the river and moved the green back about 40 yards.  9 and ten, it seems he laid on top of the old greens.  I used that 1912 map, and a 1934 aerial and paced a lot of it off.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 18, 2017, 05:59:26 PM
Shaker Heights CC - 1932

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Shaker%20Heights%20CC%20Map%20-%201932_zpsot5aqvpl.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 18, 2017, 06:00:08 PM
Canterbury GC - 1932

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Canterbury%20GC%20Map%20-%201932_zpstxx73tcf.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 18, 2017, 06:22:00 PM
Greenfield Park, Milwaukee, WI - 1931

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Greenfield%20Park%20Plan%20-%201931_zpsuzj1kxto.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on November 19, 2017, 08:32:22 AM
I love this thread.
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Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 29, 2017, 09:32:55 AM
Acacia CC

Chicago Tribune - Feb. 3, 1924

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Acacia%20Plan%20-%20Chicago%20Tribune%20Feb.%203%201924_zpsdaloyp7k.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: PPallotta on November 29, 2017, 09:46:17 AM
Thanks, Sven.
That's cool to look at.
I don't know anything about the course, but the first thing that came to mind was Fenway Park (the baseball stadium).
That is: a design that is made to fit the (small) site.
Holes like 3, 4, 5, 9, 10, 14 - you don't see those so much except when architects have to use every inch of space.
Who designed it?
Was it thought of highly in its day?
Peter

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 29, 2017, 11:08:45 AM
Langford & Moreau (says it on the image).


The search function will give you a bit of info on Acacia.


That 13th hole looks alot like the layout of the great 4th at Barbougle.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Chris_Blakely on November 29, 2017, 11:55:46 AM
Langford & Moreau (says it on the image).


The search function will give you a bit of info on Acacia.


That 13th hole looks alot like the layout of the great 4th at Barbougle.


Acacia is one of the courses featured in Dan Wexler's Lost Links or Missing Links books.  I'm at work, so can't look up at home.


Chris

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 08, 2017, 06:50:45 PM
Milwaukee CC - Original Jim Foulis Course

The Inter Ocean - Feb. 26, 1899

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Milwaukee%20CC%20Plan%20-%20Inter%20Ocean%20Feb.%2026%201899_zpsiyypljsx.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 13, 2017, 10:08:04 AM
Cragin Park, Palm Beach, FL


Credited as a Banks design.  Was this course ever built?  The Blue Heron Hotel project that the course was associated with stalled shortly after construction began.


Palm Beach Post, Dec. 20, 1925



(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Cragin%20Park%20-%20Palm%20Beach%20Post%20Dec.%2020%201925_zpshgcsyqpr.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on December 13, 2017, 09:34:22 PM
Sven,


Nice find!  Looking at the date of the article, wouldn't this course be a Seth Raynor design?


It's also interesting that the course included nineteen holes.  The nineteenth hole is to the east of Dixie Highway between holes 1 & 9 and 10 & 18.




Bret
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 13, 2017, 10:01:46 PM
Brett:


That was my thought as well.  A March 12, 1926 Evening Post article mentions that Banks was to lay out the course, but it also notes that Banks was to lay out a number of other courses that we know Raynor designed.  Here's one instance where lay out may have meant implementing preconceived plans.


Sven


(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Charles%20Banks%20-%20Evening%20Post%20March%2012%201926_zpse0ouudxl.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 14, 2017, 12:17:29 AM
The Architect's (George O'Neill / Jack Croake)  "Bird's-Eye" perspective drawing of the new Pasadena CC to be laid out over the old Altadena CC Pasadena Evening Post - 4/3/1920.


Click to embiggen.(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4683/38331932654_390f540953_o.png)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tim_Cronin on December 14, 2017, 06:02:22 AM
Jim, the paper misspelled the name of Jack Croke.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 14, 2017, 09:15:50 AM
Jim, the paper misspelled the name of Jack Croke.
OOPS!  :-[  He must have enjoyed Pasadena, he was playing out of PCC in this photo from 1922. Read that he succeeded James Foulis as the Pro at Calumet CC in 1912.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4581/39051588741_abfca0d2d4_o.png)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 14, 2017, 10:38:37 AM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4554/39053216681_c7e4390191_o.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on December 18, 2017, 02:47:12 PM

A 1914 map of Royal St George's which also illustrates all the shots played in the 36 hole final
of that year's Amateur Golf Championship (Spoiler Alert: J.L.C. Jenkins won ;)  ).

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4732/38258192575_d3e3c17cf4_o.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tim_Cronin on December 18, 2017, 11:20:31 PM
Jim, the paper misspelled the name of Jack Croke.
OOPS!  :-[  He must have enjoyed Pasadena, he was playing out of PCC in this photo from 1922. Read that he succeeded James Foulis as the Pro at Calumet CC in 1912.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4581/39051588741_abfca0d2d4_o.png)


Nice find. He later had a good run at Olympia Fields as well.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on December 19, 2017, 07:49:28 AM
Sven -


The Foulis drawing for Milwaukee CC (1899) posted above might be the most thoroughly Victorian design I've ever seen. Relentless cross hazards. Wow.


Have I mentioned that I love this thread?


Bob 
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Greg Hohman on January 06, 2018, 02:45:54 PM
I want to share two routings but have hard copies which I can’t post in a presentable way. (Not tech savvy.) One is too small, the other is too large. I would be happy to snail mail them to somebody.

1) Land- und Golf-Club Düsseldorf (Bernhard v. Limburger, 1962)

2) Mission Valley Country Club (Lawrence Hughes, 1947) 
 
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 08, 2018, 11:32:51 AM
I apologize if these have been posted before.

Whitinsville 1923 Ross Plan -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Whitinsville%20Plan_zpsavcgevwk.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 08, 2018, 11:35:15 AM
Forsyth No. 2 1929 Ross Plan -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Forsyth%20No.%202%20Plan_zpshkj51jkv.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 08, 2018, 11:36:35 AM
Northland 1923 Ross Plan -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Northland%20Plan_zps50cnsc2k.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 08, 2018, 11:37:56 AM
Barton Hills 1922 Ross Plan -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Barton%20Hills%20Plan_zpsezxvbply.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 08, 2018, 11:39:08 AM
Plymouth 1929 Ross Plan -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Plymouth%20Plan_zpsedoi1axm.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 18, 2018, 03:16:23 PM
Oakland GC - Bayside, NY

Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Jan. 6, 1906 -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Oakland%20-%20Brooklyn%20Daily%20Eagle%20Jan.%206%201906_zps1xighi34.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on January 18, 2018, 06:56:14 PM
Very cool, Sven.   Tough to imagine Travis wasn't involved in the expansion.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on January 18, 2018, 07:48:24 PM
Sven,


The new nine at Oakland was designed by Walter Travis and Stewart Gardner, pro at GCGC.   Will post article when I get back to a computer.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on January 19, 2018, 10:18:06 AM
Second nine at Oakland by Travis and Gardner.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4627/25907703448_81fd0d030a_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 22, 2018, 03:03:24 PM

Rochester Democrat and Chronicle - July 3rd 1952 - second 9 - designed by Ross/McGovern, built by William F.Gordon.
The article, which includes a description of the holes, is here:                   
https://tinyurl.com/y82zpbzl (https://tinyurl.com/y82zpbzl)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4745/28063307119_ca54a7070f_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 23, 2018, 10:48:37 AM
Second nine at Oakland by Travis and Gardner.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4627/25907703448_81fd0d030a_b.jpg)


Mike:


Do you have the full source for that article?


Waiting for Ed Homsey to chime in, but the early date on this makes it a fairly significant discovery. 


Sven



Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Rick Lane on January 23, 2018, 11:44:13 AM
You guys have amazing skills at digging and finding old articles and maps.    Does anyone know of any article or info about the expansion in 1910/11 of Brooklawn in Connecticut from 9 to 18 holes? 
All we have is that "Cornell Farm" was purchased and an 18 hole course was made from the original (1895) 9 holes.  We do not know who was involved.    I presume George Sparling, who arrived in 1908, but its a guess.   For that matter, we do not know who exactly laid out the original 1895 nine holes......any help is greatly appreciated!   
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on January 23, 2018, 12:47:19 PM
Second nine at Oakland by Travis and Gardner.


Mike:


Do you have the full source for that article?


Waiting for Ed Homsey to chime in, but the early date on this makes it a fairly significant discovery. 


Sven

Sven,

It's from the September 4th, 1906 issue of the Brooklyn Daily Eagle.   

I passed it onto Ed at his Facebook Walter Travis Society site.   

Thanks!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 23, 2018, 09:26:36 PM
Here's the RTJsr remodeling plan for Valley View golf course located in Roscoe Conkling Park, Utica NY.
The course was originally laid out by Walter Travis in 1916 and constructed by the city from those plans.

 This map comes from the 2/10/1938 Utica Daily Press.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4662/39833598642_ce601d2f31_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on January 23, 2018, 09:43:25 PM
Awesome stuff Jim.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 24, 2018, 08:22:55 PM
Thanks Mike.


Might have been a twofer for Ralph Barton as his plan for the Muni was created in the same time frame as his work at the CC of Greenfield, Ma.. The two courses are only about 3 miles apart.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4747/26002433218_df315bdbbc_o.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 26, 2018, 08:47:56 PM

Ross' layout of the Asheville Municipal golf course from a 1928 drainage plan.
Use this link to get a better view. Article begins on page 6.

http://archive.lib.msu.edu/tic/golfd/article/1928jan.pdf (http://archive.lib.msu.edu/tic/golfd/article/1928jan.pdf)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4703/39918261621_c27ee4dc80_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 27, 2018, 04:40:55 PM
Stanley Thompson's plan for the Erie Downs G&CC - today it's known as Bridgewater CC.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4654/39032706605_fcc83c1075_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 28, 2018, 10:42:53 PM

Stanley Thompson's proposal for adding 5 holes to the existing 9 at the Bartlett CC in Olean, NY.  In the late 1950s four more holes were added to bring the number to 18. The article is from the Olean Herald of October 1950. No day was given, but there was a blurb on the page about the naval bombardment of Chongjin N.Korea and that was on the 12 and 13th of October.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4702/39060419255_081a8451d2_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 01, 2018, 04:03:26 PM
Eastern Parkway GC. Bklyn NY - for members of the Union League - George Low layout.

I believe you had to register your golf balls at the DMV before playing here - there are 16 road crossings to be navigated on the nine holes.  :o   ;D

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4743/39317746454_9e48e4f1c9_k.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 05, 2018, 08:17:59 PM


Built mainly for the managers and employees of the rapidly growing Eastman Kodak Company. H.K. Mac Donald - Architect.(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4627/28151284519_bc97a86be6_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 15, 2018, 12:31:20 PM
Franklin Park - May 24, 1922 Christian Science Monitor

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Franklin%20Park%20Plan%20-%20Christian%20Science%20Monitor%20May%2024%201922_zpsvgnnnbgg.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on February 26, 2018, 10:01:01 AM

Corrected a broken link from earlier.

Lakewood CC from 1915 (Joe Bausch):
(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Lakewood_1915_EveningTelegram.jpg)

And after Travis laid hands on it, some 5 years later. No. 14 on the left side of the drawing looks like a bear, and the sharp dogleg right #17 (bottom of drawing) is reminiscent of the soon to be built 3rd hole AWT's Fresh Meadows CC.

Embiggen = 2clicks
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7499/16152297825_8ec7f2e895_o.jpg) (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7499/16152297825_8ec7f2e895_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on February 26, 2018, 12:02:41 PM
My web hosting service has changed again.   So I burned a couple of hours to fix all the broken links in the maps I've posted over the years!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 26, 2018, 01:20:36 PM
My web hosting service has changed again.   So I burned a couple of hours to fix all the broken links in the maps I've posted over the years!


Fantastic!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 26, 2018, 02:27:56 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Nigel Islam on February 26, 2018, 07:48:23 PM
The last course that Seth Raynor designed was Mid Pacific CC (aka Kailua CC), which he planned during his Dec. 1925 trip to Hawaii.  Although only 9 holes were built, the plan called for 18.  Here's a map of the 18 hole course from the Jan. 23, 1927 edition of the Honolulu Star-Advertiser.

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Mid%20Pacific%20Plan%20-%20Honolulu%20Star-Advertiser%20Jan.%2023%201927_zpsaahvgvhz.png)


Sorry to dredge this up from the past, but looking at Google maps this appears to be a very similar routing to the current course. I was always under the impression the club did not use Raynor’s plan for the additional nine.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on April 04, 2018, 02:26:30 PM
Dayton CC

The course was reworked by Cornish a number of years later, and now looks like a typical tree-lined midwestern course from the aerials.  Seems to be some lost opportunities in the shared fairways included on this plan.

Feb. 23, 1936 Dayton Daily News -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Ross/Dayton%20-%20Dayton%20Daily%20News%20Feb.%2023%201936_zpsftlu1pnj.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on April 16, 2018, 09:37:41 AM
Kingsport CC (Kingsport, TN) - 1919 Tillinghast/McCarthy course

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Ross/Ridgefields%20Plan%20-%201919_zpsutyhrfpq.jpeg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on April 25, 2018, 09:41:07 AM
Haines City - July 4, 1925 Tampa Times -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Bendelow/Haines%20City%20-%20Tampa%20Times%20July%204%201925_zpsbm231pvl.jpeg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on May 10, 2018, 10:32:56 AM
John White Course - Atlanta Constitution May 6, 1928

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Bendelow/John%20White%20Course%20-%20Atlanta%20Constitution%20May%206%201928_zpsvpshqz9l.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on May 10, 2018, 10:33:52 AM
Bobby Jones Course - May 20, 1928 Atlanta Constitution

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Bendelow/Bobby%20Jones%20Course%20Plan%20-%20Atlanta%20Constitution%20May%2020%201928_zps1pcg3ayv.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on May 25, 2018, 11:26:15 AM
Sparrow Point - The Evening Sun Nov. 21, 1923

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Sparrows%20Point%20Plan%20-%20The%20Evening%20Sun%20Nov.%2021%201923_zpsqkdhoxy7.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 26, 2018, 01:38:43 PM
Sparrow Point - The Evening Sun Nov. 21, 1923

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Sparrows%20Point%20Plan%20-%20The%20Evening%20Sun%20Nov.%2021%201923_zpsqkdhoxy7.png)


Sven, any idea who designed this nine-hole layout for Sparrows Point?  Later they moved to another location and this current 27-hole course was designed by David Gordon, I think.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on May 27, 2018, 08:54:32 AM
Joe -


F. G. Wrightson (a Bethlehem Steel plant superintendent) and Jimmy Roche (pro at Elkiridge Hunt Club).


Sven
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on June 12, 2018, 04:08:11 PM
For U.S. Open week, here is the Congressional course where Ken Venturi won in 1964.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1742/28887087598_66e87006b3_z.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on September 22, 2018, 04:29:14 PM

Gotta' love his idea for the tee areas.



(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1842/43938591085_706c61dc15_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on October 17, 2018, 12:09:56 PM

Harding Park Initial Plan


Dec. 16, 1921 San Francisco Examiner -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Harding%20Park%20-%20San%20Francisco%20Examiner%20Dec.%2016%201921%203_zpsy6lkjter.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on October 17, 2018, 12:49:43 PM
Following are two drawings of White Beeches Golf & Country Club (Haworth, NJ) which is mostly a Walter Travis revised course (1918-1920) to this day.

The first from 1910 shows the original Val Flood designed nine holes course on the top right, but also includes the Mayor Grant Estate private course in the lower left which were merged about two years later to create 18 holes for the club.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1906/45388753771_82734303fe_b.jpg)


The next drawing is from the club's 75 year anniversary book.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1962/45337981742_d3dab2ba6a_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on October 21, 2018, 09:11:47 PM
Swope Park (Dec 13, 1910; Kansas City Star).

(http://i47.tinypic.com/2zg90rk.jpg)


The plan prior to being revised as above.

Nov. 23, 1910 St. Louis Post-Dispatch -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Swope%20Park%20-%20St.%20Louis%20Post-Dispatch%20Nov.%2023%201910_zpsvu1lympl.jpeg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on October 25, 2018, 10:23:41 AM
Harry Collis' La Palma GC

Dec. 4, 1927 Arizona Republic -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/La%20Palma%20Plan%20-%20Arizona%20Republic%20Dec.%204%201927_zpsoho99pqd.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on October 25, 2018, 11:12:24 AM
Camargo

Nov. 16, 1924 Cincinnati Enquirer -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Camargo%20Plan%20-%20Cincinnati%20Enquirer%20Nov.%2016%201924_zpsbvwjivmw.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on October 26, 2018, 11:39:31 AM
Alderwood

Aug. 17, 1937 Washington C. H. Record - Herald -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Alderwood%20-%20Washington%20C.%20H.%20Record-Herald%20Aug.%2017%201937%201_zpsxg92rcli.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on October 27, 2018, 09:28:51 PM
Bill Diddel's California Waterworks GC

May 19, 1935 Cincinnati Enquirer -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/California%20Waterworks%20-%20Cincinnati%20Enquirer%20May%2019%201935%201_zpsvm9uyak7.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on October 29, 2018, 03:04:34 PM
Hercules CC (Wilmington, DE)

Nov. 18, 1936 News Journal -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Hercules%20Plan%20-%20New%20Journal%20Nov.%2018%201936_zpskobz2vtm.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on October 29, 2018, 03:07:47 PM
DuPont CC Nemours Course (Wilmington, DE)

May 14, 1937 Morning News -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/DuPont%20CC%20Nemours%20Plan%20-%20Morning%20News%20May%2014%201937_zpstbsckl9n.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on October 30, 2018, 10:55:55 AM
Palma Ceia - Tampa Tribune Dec. 12, 1915

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Palma%20Ceia%20Map%20-%20Tampa%20Tribune%20Dec.%2012%201915_zpsikezvair.png)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Palma%20Ceia%20Plan%20-%20Tampa%20Tribune%20Dec.%2012%201915_zpszxhizo90.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 01, 2018, 09:48:55 AM
Lakewood GC - Herbert Strong

Sept. 9, 1923 Tampa Bay Times -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Lakewood%20-%20Tampa%20Bay%20Times%20Sept.%209%201923_zpsi8t0kzid.jpg)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Lakewood%20Plan%20-%20Tampa%20Bay%20Times%20Sept.%209%201923_zpsjimz7tmy.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 06, 2018, 09:21:23 AM
Davis Islands CC

Jan. 29, 1927 Tampa Times -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Davis%20Islands%20Plan%20-%20Tampa%20Times%20Jan.%2029%201927_zpsivj7ldkk.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 07, 2018, 09:10:26 AM
Laurel CC

June 11, 1939 Clarion-Ledger -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Laurel%20Plan%20-%20Clarion-Ledger%20June%2011%201939_zps3p6kz9gu.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 07, 2018, 10:01:47 AM
Davenport CC

May 19, 1924 The Daily Times -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Davenport%20Plan%20-%20The%20Daily%20Times%20May%2019%201924_zpskjvktkv4.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 08, 2018, 08:53:18 AM
Woodside - March 27, 1939 Des Moines Register -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Woodside%20Plan%20-%20Des%20Moines%20Register%20March%2027%201939%201_zpssrcvcqh6.jpeg)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Woodside%20Plan%20-%20Des%20Moines%20Register%20March%2027%201939%202_zpsdwi86fgh.jpeg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on November 08, 2018, 08:54:51 AM
Go, Sven, go.


Go, Sven, go!


 ;D
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 08, 2018, 09:16:16 AM
Perry Maxwell's Iowa State College course, aka Veenker Memorial GC

April 29, 1938 Ames Daily Tribune -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Iowa%20State%20College%20Plan%20-%20Ames%20Daily%20Tribune%20April%2029%201938_zpsdoycsnet.jpeg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 08, 2018, 09:40:14 AM
Des Moines G&CC original course as remembered by Warren Dickinson

Dec. 2, 1927 Des Moines Tribune -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Des%20Moines%20GCC%20Plan%20-%20Des%20Moines%20Tribune%20Dec.%202%201927_zps7chqyfr5.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 14, 2018, 11:14:30 AM
Antelope Park Municipal GC (Lincoln, NE)

March 9, 1941 Nebraska State Journal -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Antelope%20Plan%20-%20Nebraska%20State%20Journal%20March%209%201941_zpszwsbj9xa.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 16, 2018, 09:07:40 AM
James River CC - Newport News, VA

Sept. 20, 1931 Daily Press

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/James%20River%20Plan%20-%20Daily%20Press%20Sept.%2020%201931_zps6ilkcf03.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Matthew Rose on November 16, 2018, 04:41:26 PM
"Par is just 71 on this course".

As if there's something wrong with that!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 17, 2018, 10:16:12 AM
Topeka Country Club-1921 Langford & Moreau layout from the Daily State Journal: May 7, 1921:
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/BE8CF3AE-2B59-47AC-AFA1-937AF7EF2235.png_zps4jnkzs1k.jpeg)

The 9 hole course prior to Langford's involvement.

Aug. 21, 1920 Topeka State Journal -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Topeka%20CC%20Plan%20-%20Topeka%20State%20Journal%20Aug.%2021%201920_zpsaiclhoap.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on November 18, 2018, 12:54:53 PM




The Topeka newspapers kept very good tabs on the progress at Topeka County Club.  Here are two more layouts to add.  The first is from shortly after the Langford & Moreau design was published.


Topeka State Journal-May 28th, 1921:
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/A295A722-6564-4D3A-A88A-0BA3E63DC849_zpsp9gjf8qf.jpg)


The second shows the progress of the Langford & Moreau design.


Topeka State Journal-June 3, 1922:
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/551D4E13-AF6A-4C80-BFFC-CD9AB0823101_zpsseahbxcf.jpg)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 18, 2018, 04:53:13 PM
Eugene CC - May 3, 1924 Eugene Guard

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Eugene%20Plan%20-%20Eugene%20Guard%20May%203%201924_zpsghzec4iw.jpeg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 18, 2018, 04:58:10 PM
Mauna Kea - April 19, 1964 Honolulu Star-Bulletin

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Mauna%20Key%20Plan%20-%20Honolulu%20Star-Bulletin%20April%2019%201964_zps23kgq0oa.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 20, 2018, 11:32:00 PM
Nichols Hill CC (lka Oklahoma City G&CC) - Maxwell and Mackenzie

The May 4, 1929 edition of The Daily Oklahoman contained an initial layout for the 27 holes.

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Nichols%20Hills%20-%20Daily%20Oklahoman%20May%204%201929_zpsq449rqbb.jpg)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Nichols%20Hills%2018%20Hole%20Plan%20-%20Daily%20Oklahoman%20May%204%201929_zpsgftx52h2.png)

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Nichols%20Hills%209%20Hole%20Plan%20-%20Daily%20Oklahoman%20May%204%201929_zpsta5sghpi.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 21, 2018, 12:10:42 AM
Golden Valley CC - Bendelow's original routing

Oct. 21, 1917 Star Tribune -

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Golden%20Valley%20-%20Star%20Tribune%20Oct.%2021%201917_zpsrhl6iwaz.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 25, 2018, 12:14:40 PM
9 and 18 hole plans for Mount Pleasant GC in Baltimore.

June 29, 1931 Evening Sun -

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Mount%20Pleasant%20Plan%20-%20Evening%20Sun%20June%2029%201931_zpsmds8qff2.png)

July 23, 1939 Baltimore Sun -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Mount%20Pleasant%20Plan%20-%20Baltimore%20Sun%20July%2023%201939_zpspkrzmnkm.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 26, 2018, 09:25:49 PM
Two different depictions of Willie Bell's plans for the changes to Oahu CC.

Sept. 16, 1927 Honolulu Star-Bulletin

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Oahu%20Plan%20-%20Honolulu%20Star-Bulletin%20Sept.%2016%201927_zpsvc6fdzfm.png)

Sept. 21, 1927 Honolulu Advertiser -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Oahu%20Plan%20-%20Honolulu%20Advertiser%20Sept.%2021%201927_zpsmemzfnvp.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 02, 2018, 03:39:52 PM
Madison CC, Madison, NJ

July 11, 1930 Madison Eagle -

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Madison%20-%20Madison%20Eagle%20July%2011%201930_zps616jvhbr.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Matthew Rose on December 03, 2018, 04:37:54 AM
Antelope Park Municipal GC (Lincoln, NE)

March 9, 1931 Nebraska State Journal -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Antelope%20Plan%20-%20Nebraska%20State%20Journal%20March%209%201941_zpszwsbj9xa.png)
I never knew this even existed. Was it actually built?

This looks very much like the location of the Jim Ager Junior Course which was a staple of childhood in my family. I had no idea a full-size course was ever planned for the area, and the Junior has been there as long as any of us can remember.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 03, 2018, 01:30:04 PM
Matt:


The course was built around 1920 and was around at least until the 1940's.  I had the wrong date for the article (1941 is correct), and just updated it in the post above.


It was reduced from 18 to 9 holes some time in the mid-1930's.


Sven
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on December 04, 2018, 12:19:00 PM
Sven,

I don't believe Madison Country Club ever got off the ground.   Likely a victim of the Depression.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 04, 2018, 02:59:28 PM
Country Club of Decatur

May 1, 1929 Decatur Evening Herald -

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Decatur%20Plan%20-%20Decatur%20Evening%20Herald%20May%201%201929_zps96efbwah.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Matthew Rose on December 04, 2018, 06:07:13 PM
Matt:


The course was built around 1920 and was around at least until the 1940's.  I had the wrong date for the article (1941 is correct), and just updated it in the post above.


It was reduced from 18 to 9 holes some time in the mid-1930's.


Sven

Thanks Sven.

After some research I've discovered this is indeed where the Jim Ager Jr. course is now which was built in the early 60s; I've been trying to figure out if any of the original greens might be in use, but it doesn't appear that they are.

I have a personal connection to the Ager course so it is fascinating to learn more about its history, which is scarce.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 06, 2018, 10:30:43 AM
Brendonwood GC, Indianapolis, IN

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Brendenwood%20Plan_zpsdgo1foe4.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jason Topp on December 06, 2018, 12:04:05 PM
Golden Valley CC - Bendelow's original routing

Oct. 21, 1917 Star Tribune -

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Golden%20Valley%20-%20Star%20Tribune%20Oct.%2021%201917_zpsrhl6iwaz.png)


Thanks Sven.  I would have liked to play that 8th hole.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 15, 2018, 10:14:50 AM
A restored and colorized version of Flynn's plan for Lehigh CC.


(http://1pj7wg.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pyXUhFbGYyvPvrKoRn1EpAbRXJNb5KFUTVl4fYGoFJPE9fduiiLOso7JwHd4eqqRmsWrLX6iNT-nLPoqcmh-McOH_c3IK0ZK5/Color%202%20reduced.jpg)


Here's the April 11, 1926 The Morning Call article that included the original version of the map above:

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Lehigh%20-%20The%20Morning%20Call%20April%2011%201926_zpszmn53msm.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 18, 2018, 04:44:13 PM
Philadelphia CC (Spring Mill)


June 4, 1939 Philadelphia Inquirer -



(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Philadelphia%20Spring%20Mill%20Plan%20-%20Philadelphia%20Inquirer%20June%204%201939_zpsnbwwzm7n.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Peter Flory on December 18, 2018, 05:00:33 PM
Par 69 for that US Open and almost 6,800 yards!  That is a brute. 
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 27, 2018, 04:37:20 PM
There's been a bit of talk lately about Capt. Alison's course at St. Andrews Bay which is now known as Panama CC.

The other course built near Panama City around the same time was the Bunker Cove GC, a 9 holer built as part of a massive housing development.

Nov. 8, 1925 Tampa Tribune -

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Bunkers%20Cove%20Plan%20-%20Tampa%20Tribune%20Nov.%208%201925%201_zpsslm7z8al.jpg)

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Bunkers%20Cove%20Plan%20-%20Tampa%20Tribune%20Nov.%208%201925%202_zpsbmsoziqh.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 01, 2019, 02:19:30 PM
Flossmoor from the Sept 12, 1923 edition of the Christian Science Monitor:


(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Flossmoor_Sept12_1923_CSN.jpg) (http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Flossmoor_Sept12_1923_CSN.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on January 06, 2019, 03:58:07 PM
South Park (June 20, 1919 edition of the Buffalo Evening News).

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/SouthPark_June20_1919_BuffaloEveningNews.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 12, 2019, 08:00:40 PM
Rancho Santa Fe


Jan. 13, 1928 Los Angeles Times -


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Rancho%20Santa%20Fe%20-%20Los%20Angeles%20Times%20Jan.%2013%201928_zpspzzfkgho.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 19, 2019, 10:13:57 AM
Durand-Eastman

Aug. 13, 1933 Democrat and Chronicle -

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Durand-Eastman%20-%20Democrat%20and%20Chronicle%20Aug.%2013%201933_zpsibiz2pae.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 19, 2019, 10:19:49 AM
Pioneer Park GC (Lincoln, NE)

Jan. 18, 1931 Lincoln Star -

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Pioneer%20Park%20Plan%20-%20Lincoln%20Star%20Jan.%2018%201931_zpshlod5e6v.png)

April 3, 1932 Lincoln Star -

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Pioneer%20Park%20Plan%20-%20Lincoln%20Star%20April%203%201932_zps15d2h6e8.jpg)

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Pioneer%20Park%20Green%20Plan%20-%20Lincoln%20Star%20April%203%201932_zps6clqdcny.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 19, 2019, 10:30:25 AM
Assiniboine GC

Aug. 16, 1930 Winnipeg Tribune -

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Assiniboine%20-%20Winnipeg%20Tribune%20Aug.%2016%201930%202_zpshnjcxdqg.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 19, 2019, 10:33:25 AM
Palolo Valley Municipal Course

June 22, 1929 Honolulu Star-Bulletin -

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Palolo%20Valley%20Plan%20-%20Honolulu%20Star-Bulletin%20June%2022%201929_zpsj9fwyiqs.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 19, 2019, 10:36:15 AM
Prescott Hill G&CC

Oct. 19, 1929 Courier-News

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Prescott%20Hill%20Plan%20-%20Courier-News%20Oct.%2019%201929_zpslqk9fpxf.png)


Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on January 19, 2019, 12:21:18 PM
Sven -


It is interesting how much more detailed the course routings become as you move through the 1920's. No doubt there are exceptions, but the old stick routings become rare. Or are you not posting them?


The attention given to the details of greens shapes, bunkering, rough lines and vegetation by the 1920's is perhaps a telltale of thinking/assumptions about the work of the architect that differed from earlier eras.


In any event, great stuff. Please keep posting.


Bob 


   
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 19, 2019, 12:41:28 PM
Bob:


There was a lot more money spent on golf in the 1920's than years prior.


The routing maps are merely evidence of that fact.


Sven
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 21, 2019, 08:49:17 PM
Gladstone Municipal GC - Gladstone, MI

Dec. 7, 1938 Escanaba Daily Press -

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Gladstone%20Plan%20-%20Escanaba%20Daily%20Press%20Dec.%207%201938_zpskc7absoe.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 02, 2019, 10:07:37 PM
Glen Echo CC - St. Louis Missouri - home of the 1904 Olympic golf matches

Drawing blatantly lifted from Jim Healey's "In My Opinon" piece:

 http://golfclubatlas.com/in-my-opinion/glen-echo-country-club/ (http://golfclubatlas.com/in-my-opinion/glen-echo-country-club/)

(http://www.golfclubatlas.com/images/GlenEcho_1904a.jpg)


Another version of the course.


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Glen%20Echo%20Plan_zps2lixq9qp.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 02, 2019, 10:10:11 PM
Sharp Park, courtesy of Tom MacWood in this friendly chat amongst pals ... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,43689.msg983794/ (http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,43689.msg983794/)

(http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43689.0;attach=7122;image)


The image for the post above isn't available any more.


Not sure if this was the same map, but here's the 1932 routing of Sharp Park.


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Sharp%20Park%20Plan%20-%201932_zpsqkumsc6d.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 02, 2019, 10:15:23 PM
Here's a map of the Monterey Peninsula that was given a date of 1921 (the contents indicate it was from a bit later).  I've also included closeups of the routings of the courses noted thereon.


(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Monterey%20Area%20Map_zpszurfkkvf.png)



Del Monte -


(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Del%20Monte%20Map_zps7r1gbx9v.png)


Pebble Beach -


(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Pebble%20Beach%20Map_zpsfdttyetl.png)


Monterey Peninsula CC -


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Monterey%20Peninsula%20CC%20Map_zpsej4avfya.png)


Cypress Point -


(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Cypress%20Point%20Map_zpsurzxodim.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Nigel Islam on February 07, 2019, 10:56:59 AM
That Cypress routing is interesting no?


Also looks like Baldock and Neville used the Raynor/MacKenzie/Hunter routing for the Shore course. Of course 7 holes had already been started and they were hemmed in by sold lots, so likely had no choice.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on February 09, 2019, 11:56:55 AM
I think this was posted in an old thread, but I didn't see it in this thread.  This is a 1964 routing for Monterey Peninsula Country Club Shore course. The corresponding article (not included) was written by Bob Baldock.


From Golfdom., February 1964:


(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/1CCE0BFE-9F5A-4A2D-97AA-53439449039A_zpsmo3rjt8m.jpg)



Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on February 09, 2019, 12:06:48 PM
Is that Cypress Point routing consistent with what got built?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on February 09, 2019, 12:13:13 PM
Layout of St. Cloud Country Club, France with a short article by O.B. Keeler published in 1929. 


From Evening Star., July 12, 1929:


(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/94D2C97B-BC50-40C7-8364-36761DC978CC_zpsddynybvm.jpg)
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/D787C8E9-4285-421C-8342-478729A362CD_zpsug7qjmwg.jpg)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 09, 2019, 03:55:06 PM
Is that Cypress Point routing consistent with what got built?


No.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Nigel Islam on February 09, 2019, 09:44:47 PM
Is that Cypress Point routing consistent with what got built?


Mike,
 
Most of the pictures we see about Cypress is the same, but the holes between 5-13 are just a little different. I think 16 is a par 3, and MacKenzie initially had it as a par 4, so it would not surprise me if this is based on a Raynor routing. Of course as I told Bret, it could be Morse or anyone just trying to figure out where the lots were going to be.


I’m not all that proficient at topographic maps, but it almost looks to me as if the eighteenth green at Pebble might be in the pre 1923 position further east from its iconic site. I would love if someone else could look at that. The site of that green would help narrow down the date of the map. It is certainly no later than 1926 in my opinion.


Nigel
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 17, 2019, 01:52:09 PM
Broadmoor GC (Seattle, WA) - sourced from Paradise Planned by Robert Stern.



(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Broadmoor%20Plan%20-%201924_zps6cbi9nnh.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 17, 2019, 02:10:06 PM
Pine Orchard CC - 1931 Olmsted Plan


Note the plans for an additional 18 hole course.  The holes south of the railroad tracks (on the left of the plan) are laid out differently than they appear today.


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/39601461711_e54a20d486_k_zpszqzp5qdn.jpg)


-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 17, 2019, 07:43:14 PM
Acacia CC, South Euclid, OH


     (https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Acacia%20OH%20Ross%20Plan%20-%201921_zpsnhoxmo2o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 17, 2019, 07:47:03 PM

Alamance CC

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Alamance%20Plan%20-%20Burlington%20Daily%20Times%20June%2014%201946_zpsmcov8grk.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 17, 2019, 09:16:18 PM
Here are a few routings from J. Peter Martin's "Adirondack Golf Courses...Past and Present." A number of the courses don't have architects listed in the book, so I will be looking into that to see if I can find any more information on them

Eagles Nest Country Club and Golf Course, Blue Mountain Lake, New York; Willie Dunn (1900) - defunct

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/PGAmagAmbassador/eaglesnest-adk-routing.jpg)


An updated map of Eagle Nest Park course, this one dated Dec. 1930 with a notation that it was updated to Dec. 1937.

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Eagle%20Nest%20Park%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%20Dec.%201930_zps6fajvhfl.jpg)

-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 17, 2019, 09:21:24 PM
Flynn's plan for the Homestead Course at Virginia Hot Springs, dated Dec. 1925.


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Virginia%20Hot%20Springs%20Homestead%20Flynn%20Plan_zpsm0vjxhwz.jpg)


-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 17, 2019, 09:23:46 PM
Charles Banks' Caracas CC, July 1928


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Caracas%20CC%20Olmsted%20Plan_zpss1nhf3oa.jpg)

-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 17, 2019, 09:32:54 PM
Cohasse CC (Southbridge, MA) - Plan dated 1927-28


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Cohasse%20CC%20Plan%20-%201927-28_zpso2ao4qgi.jpg)


-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 17, 2019, 09:41:08 PM
CC of Charleston aka Wappoo CC - Plan dated Oct. 18, 1923


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Charleston%20CC%20of%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%201923_zps7zmhajcw.jpg)


-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 18, 2019, 08:28:09 AM
Linville Park / Linville GC - the Donald Ross course from a 1926 brochure created by the Linville Improvement Company. The link will take you to a map of the rest of the site, which includes about a dozen holes of the original course that was on the property. I counted a dozen or so shots that either crossed another hole or roadway on the old course.  :)   

http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/ncmaps/id/9545/rec/25 (http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/ncmaps/id/9545/rec/25)

2 clicks for big

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1475/25359987436_88abbdb300_o.jpg) (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1475/25359987436_88abbdb300_o.jpg)


Another version of the Linville Plan.


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Linville%20Ross%20Plan%201924_zpsymupa5dx.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on February 22, 2019, 08:15:05 AM
From the May 20, 1937 edition of the Daily Record (Long Branch, NJ), this map of the upcoming PGA Championship at the Pittsburgh Field Club:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/The_Daily_Record_Thu__May_20__1937_1000.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 22, 2019, 04:17:58 PM
I have finally updated the index at the beginning of this thread.  My apologies for not doing so for so long, but this thread can very quickly get away from you!  Thanks to Sven for doing most of the heavy lifting on the update.  BTW, it was a painful struggle to get the website to accept the changes since the index is constantly running up against the maximum number of allowed characters.  At some point (likely soon) I may need to create a separate thread just for the index and link it to the opening posts.  Let me know what you think about that.  Carry on!


Ed

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 22, 2019, 04:31:45 PM
Madison CC, Madison, NJ

July 11, 1930 Madison Eagle -

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Madison%20-%20Madison%20Eagle%20July%2011%201930_zps616jvhbr.png)


Sven, I noticed a reference to Madison CC while updating the index and assumed it related to Madison GC, where I grew up playing.  However, it looks to be located on essentially the same property currently occupied by Fairmount CC down the road from Madison in Chatham Township ...  https://www.google.com/maps/place/Fairmount+Country+Club/@40.7378214,-74.4259401,1693m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c3a59e62375169:0x836255100d53a00c!8m2!3d40.7377134!4d-74.4236421 (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Fairmount+Country+Club/@40.7378214,-74.4259401,1693m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c3a59e62375169:0x836255100d53a00c!8m2!3d40.7377134!4d-74.4236421)


I thought Fairmount only dated to the early 1960s.  Does anyone know if there was another course/club at that site that predated Fairmount??
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on February 22, 2019, 07:12:37 PM
I have finally updated the index at the beginning of this thread.  My apologies for not doing so for so long, but this thread can very quickly get away from you!  Thanks to Sven for doing most of the heavy lifting on the update.  BTW, it was a painful struggle to get the website to accept the changes since the index is constantly running up against the maximum number of allowed characters.  At some point (likely soon) I may need to create a separate thread just for the index and link it to the opening posts.  Let me know what you think about that.  Carry on!


Ed


Ed,


I appreciate you indexing all of these maps. I find the index very useful and would love to see it remain on the first page of this thread.  Have you thought about relocating your first few layouts to a new reply and continuing the index on the first page of this thread?  You have the first 10 replies or so. If you empty out reply 3, 4 and 5 and replace it with index and future index then we may be able to keep this index on the first page?  Just an alternative to consider.


Bret
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ed Oden on February 23, 2019, 07:28:48 AM
Bret, that’s what I have been doing. It is actually a bigger pain than you might expect. The advantage to a separate thread for the index is that you can click on the link on the first page of this thread and it will open up a new window for the index thread. Personally, I think it’s easier to navigate between windows rather than having to move back and forth from the first page of this thread to the page with the post you are looking for. Since this thread shows no signs of slowing down, I’m just looking for the best long range plan to make it as functional as possible and increase the likelihood that I can keep up with the index.


All the best,



Ed
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on February 23, 2019, 10:05:55 AM
Ed,


I understand, you make some valid points. If creating a link to a seperate thread is easier than I am all for it.  Thanks again for putting this together.


Bret


Here is a map of the Country Club of Harrisburg from 1917, early Flynn design:
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/971A947B-04E8-4B62-8946-7832F801E6B6_zps3efluft6.jpg)



Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on February 23, 2019, 10:26:05 AM
Bret,

That's fabulous, thanks.   I've not seen the original Flynn design prior and really need to get out there this year to see what's left.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on February 23, 2019, 11:09:09 AM
Sven, I noticed a reference to Madison CC while updating the index and assumed it related to Madison GC, where I grew up playing.  However, it looks to be located on essentially the same property currently occupied by Fairmount CC down the road from Madison in Chatham Township ...  https://www.google.com/maps/place/Fairmount+Country+Club/@40.7378214,-74.4259401,1693m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c3a59e62375169:0x836255100d53a00c!8m2!3d40.7377134!4d-74.4236421 (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Fairmount+Country+Club/@40.7378214,-74.4259401,1693m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c3a59e62375169:0x836255100d53a00c!8m2!3d40.7377134!4d-74.4236421)


I thought Fairmount only dated to the early 1960s.  Does anyone know if there was another course/club at that site that predated Fairmount??

Ed,

From old aerials in 1931 and 1957 it doesn't appear that the proposed Madison course on the site of today's Fairmount CC ever was built.   Perhaps another casualty of the Great Depression.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on February 23, 2019, 03:37:49 PM
Thanks for including the picture of the CC of Harrisburg routing, Bret.  I've had it as part of my photo tour of the course (see link below) but was negligent to have it part of this cool thread.

http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/albums/CCofHarrisburg/index.html
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 26, 2019, 12:18:04 AM
Engineers (June 1918) Daily Eagle:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/June30_1918_DailyEagle_diagram.jpg)


A 1920 Olmsted Plan of Engineers.  Note the unbuilt 9 hole course is marked on this map.


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Engineers%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%201920_zpsjivexhot.jpg)


-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 26, 2019, 12:27:34 AM
Galloping Hills GC (Union, NJ) - W. Wilkinson Plan


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Kenilworth%20GC%20Olmsted%20Plan_zpsruxikf42.jpg)


-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 26, 2019, 12:50:00 AM
Midwick CC Water Distributing Plan


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Midwick%20Olmsted%20Water%20Distributing%20System_zpsukjtwcqw.jpg)


-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 26, 2019, 01:11:44 AM
Preakness Valley Municipal GC - 1931 Plan


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Preakness%20Valley%20Municipal%20GC%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%201931_zps9tukfqqd.jpg)


-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 06, 2019, 09:52:35 AM

Greenbrier Resort Olmsted Plan (pretty sure the date is 1923) -

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Greenbrier%20Olmsted%20Plan_zps4iyte0lq.jpg)


-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on March 06, 2019, 02:12:07 PM
The Midwick Water Distribution (?) drawing holds its own as abstract art, without regard to any other function it serves.


Great stuff.


Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 06, 2019, 08:56:45 PM
Nile Temple CC (Seattle, WA) - 1926 Plan


The Nile Shrine course exists on this site currently, but has a very different routing.  Anyone know the story on this one?


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Nile%20Temple%20CC%20Olmsted%20Plan_zpsgau9qiw9.jpg)


-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site




Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 06, 2019, 09:10:15 PM
A series of plans for the expansion of Seapuit to 18 holes.  Note the Stiles and Van Kleek firm name on the last plan.

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Seapuit%20Club%20Olmsted%20Plan%201_zpskkngykjl.jpg)

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Seapuit%20Club%20Olmsted%20Plan%202_zpsgltbcyaz.jpg)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Seapuit%20Club%20Olmsted%20Plan%203_zpst6pjqmb0.jpg)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Seapuit%20Club%20Olmsted%20Plan%204_zpsv8zwvtkr.jpg)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Seapuit%20Club%20Olmsted%20Plan%205_zpsag5govsc.jpg)

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Seapuit%20Club%20Olmsted%20Plan%206_zpstywlafre.jpg)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Seapuit%20Club%20Olmsted%20Plan%207_zpset4bmaez.jpg)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Seapuit%20Club%20Olmsted%20Plan%208_zpsnwxmjd9j.jpg)

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Seapuit%20Club%20Olmsted%20Plan%209_zpsyaxuh6tl.jpg)

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Seapuit%20Club%20Olmsted%20Plan%201927_zpscypuhasq.jpg)


-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 08, 2019, 12:51:39 PM
Travis' original drawing for Misquamicut Club, courtesy of Misquamicut and Anthony Pioppi in this thread... http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,55320.0.html (http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,55320.0.html)

(http://sat.gmncdn.com/Blogs/anthonypioppi/files/2013/03/Misquamicut-Travis-198x300.jpg)


Another Misquamicut plan. 


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Misquamicut%20Olmsted%20Plan_zpsenhhf7no.jpg)


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 09, 2019, 11:19:19 AM

Stadium Hills subdivision in Ann Arbor.  I am not sure if this map displays an existing course, which may have been the Ann Arbor CC, or if this was a course that was to be built.  The University of Michigan course project would start just southeast of this location within a couple of years.  Pioneer HS was built in the upper right portion of this plat in the 1950's.

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Stadium%20Hills%20Olmsted%20Plan_zpsaebfvgly.jpg)


-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 09, 2019, 11:22:55 AM

Meadow Club of Tamalpais, Olmsted planting guide, in three parts.

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Meadow%20Club%20Olmsted%20Plan%203_zpsvlyrxdqo.jpg)
(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Meadow%20Club%20Olmsted%20Plan%202_zpsy3gdqqma.jpg)
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Meadow%20Club%20Olmsted%20Plan%201_zpspm2nwsm8.jpg)


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 09, 2019, 11:29:29 AM
Dayton CC - 1917 Olmsted Plan


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Dayton%20CC%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%201917_zpsimwhrlhd.jpg)


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 09, 2019, 11:33:04 AM
Mid-Ocean - June 1923 Golf Illustrated

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Mid-Ocean%20Plan%20-%20Golf%20Illustrated%20June%201923_zpsgxtguzm4.png)

Mid Ocean-1927 (from Scotland's Gift)
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag323/bretjlawrence/CA8AD380-97F6-4A03-A6CA-90E5FF21001C_zpsvevqmaqd.jpg)


Yet another Mid Ocean plan, Olmsted 1923


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Mid%20Ocean%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%201923_zpsdi2x7od2.jpg)


-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 09, 2019, 11:36:52 AM
New Bedford CC, 1908 Olmsted Plan, the original 9 hole course prior to Ross expanding it to 18 in 1920.


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/New%20Bedford%20CC%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%201908_zpsekucqo3g.jpg)



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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 09, 2019, 11:55:46 AM
Rhode Island CC - Olmsted Plan 1912

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Rhode%20Island%20CC%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%201912_zpsnsdeznmy.jpg)

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 09, 2019, 11:58:26 AM
Louisville CC - Langford & Moreau Plan (1921)

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Louisville%20CC%20Plan%20-%201921_zpso8obfxxy.jpg)

-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 09, 2019, 12:04:49 PM
Two Miami Valley CC plans -

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Miami%20Valley%20CC%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%201915%201_zpsqrjezzlp.jpg)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Miami%20Valley%20CC%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%201915%202_zpstdlb3mwi.jpg)

-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 09, 2019, 12:10:10 PM
CC of Charleston aka Wappoo CC - Plan dated Oct. 18, 1923


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Charleston%20CC%20of%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%201923_zps7zmhajcw.jpg)


-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site


A second version dated Jan. 21, 1924


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Charleston%20CC%20of%20Olmsted%20Plan_zpswhag4str.jpg)





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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 09, 2019, 12:48:46 PM
Two versions of the plan for Palm Springs GC.

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Palm%20Spring%20GC%20Olmsted%20Plan_zps0qf8dtsj.jpg)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Palm%20Springs%20GC%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%201927_zpsmhq0wjbz.jpg)

-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 09, 2019, 12:56:27 PM
Armco Association Club - Olmsted Plan (1956)

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Armco%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%201956_zpswj5mtljr.jpg)

-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 09, 2019, 12:59:59 PM
An early layout of Capilano.

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Capilano%20British%20Pacific%20Olmsted%20Plan_zpsi69vmen6.jpg)

-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 09, 2019, 01:04:33 PM
Two versions of the Olmsted Pasatiempo plan.

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Pasatiempo%20Olmsted%20Plan%201_zpspbiwapha.jpg)

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Pasatiempo%20Olmsted%20Plan%202_zps4cvruyze.jpg)


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 09, 2019, 01:11:43 PM
The Country Club, Olmsted Plan (1934)

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/The%20Country%20Club%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%201934_zpsz910xtob.jpg)

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 09, 2019, 06:12:02 PM
Myopia Hunt Club - 1914

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Myopia%20Hunt%20Plan%20-%201914_zpszvkpyp2w.jpg)

-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on March 09, 2019, 08:05:45 PM
New Bedford CC, 1908 Olmsted Plan, the original 9 hole course prior to Ross expanding it to 18 in 1920.


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/New%20Bedford%20CC%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%201908_zpsekucqo3g.jpg)



-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site


Wasn’t this course expanded to 18 by WPJr?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 09, 2019, 08:24:26 PM
My bad.  New Bedford was WPJ, as noted in the recent thread.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 09, 2019, 08:25:25 PM
Broadmoor, Colorado Springs

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Broadmoor%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%201926_zps7oozkofg.jpg)

-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 09, 2019, 08:31:02 PM
Part of the property of the Lake Placid Club.  The 1926 Annual Guide noted there were two 18 hole courses, two 9 hole courses, a 9 hole practice course, a 9 hole obstacle course and 4 9 hole putting courses.

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Lake%20Placid%20Club%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%201930_zps4vit790y.jpg)

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Kyle Harris on March 10, 2019, 05:37:40 AM
Sven,


What is the history on the first version of Miami Valley? The second map you posted is today's golf course, which was the last to hold the PGA Championship at Match Play.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 10, 2019, 11:15:48 AM
Sven,


What is the history on the first version of Miami Valley? The second map you posted is today's golf course, which was the last to hold the PGA Championship at Match Play.


Kyle:


The details on the first map note "Revised Lines of Golf Course" and a date of Sept. 20, 1915.  The second one is dated Sept. 1915.


Best guess is that they were contemplating a different layout.


Sven
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 10, 2019, 12:36:54 PM
Vestavia CC plans for the back nine.

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Vestavia%20Hills%20Olmsted%20Plan%201_zpsrzmbkduq.jpg)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Vestavia%20Hills%20Olmsted%20Plan%202_zpsht82no5i.jpg)

-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on March 10, 2019, 01:07:21 PM
The following three Maps show 1) A section of the original 1915 design of Cobb's Creek Golf Course, 2) The same section used in 1953 to plan the re-routing of the course (see Pencil Markings) when a sizable chunk of the property was leased to the Army for a Air Defense Base, and 3) the Re-Routed course as played in the 1955 & 1956 PGA Tour Daily News Opens indicating the Military Installation in the lower left.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7906/33435759938_4d04168d7c_b.jpg)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7926/33427256538_3e68ed45cd_b.jpg)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7823/46396439775_008553778f_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 10, 2019, 01:40:18 PM
Preakness Valley Municipal GC - 1931 Plan


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Preakness%20Valley%20Municipal%20GC%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%201931_zps9tukfqqd.jpg)


-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site

A 1946 plan for Preakness Valley.

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Preakness%20Valley%20Park%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%201946_zpsza40zwjz.jpg)

-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 10, 2019, 02:00:02 PM
Skytop Lodge plans

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Skytop%20Lodge%20Olmsted%20Plan%201_zpsyzijd094.jpg)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Skytop%20Lodge%20Olmsted%20Plan%202_zps9fvlnuwz.jpg)

-Courtesy of the National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 10, 2019, 02:02:51 PM
Plans of the first 9 holes built at Mountain Lake (the first plan is dated 1917).

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Mountain%20Lake%209%20Hole%20Plan%20-%201917_zpstnssyjx3.jpg)

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Mountain%20Lake%209%20Hole%20Plan%201_zpswlwtmgqg.jpg)

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on March 14, 2019, 09:31:35 AM
Tredyffrin CC (an Alex Findlay design) in the March 21, 1920 edition of the Philadelphia Inquirer:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Tredyffrin_Inquirer_Sun__Mar_21__1920_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 20, 2019, 01:34:48 PM
Haverhill CC - Wayne Stiles

Aug. 20, 1923 Boston Globe -

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Haverhill%20Plan%20-%20Boston%20Globe%20Aug.%2020%201923_zpstq8nho67.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on April 21, 2019, 07:32:18 PM
Oops, already posted.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 26, 2019, 03:11:02 PM
Fairview Golf and Country Club:  this from the April 16, 1960 edition of The Daily News (Lebanon):

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Fairview_The_Daily_News_Sat__Apr_16__1960_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on April 28, 2019, 10:38:22 AM
The architectural evolution of East Lake #1 is a puzzle. George Adair re-routed the old Bendelow course (see Am. Golfer Nov. and Dec., 1912). The Adair routing is, essentially, the current routing. The only evidence of specific work by Ross was his addition of some bunkers in 1914 or so. Yet Ross claims East Lake #1 as a remodel.

My guess is that East Lake was happy to have Ross claim the course. But based on what we can confirm about what he did there, the claim is a bit thin. (BTW, there is nothing in the Tufts Archive connecting Ross and EL #1.)

Adding to the puzzle is that Ross did the same work at the same time a few miles away at Druid Hills, but did not list Druid Hills as one of his remodels.

Bob
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on May 07, 2019, 09:00:01 AM
Rich Maiden (Fleetwood, PA), this from the Sept 11, 1947 edition of the Allentown Morning Call:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/RichMaidenMorningCall19470911.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on May 16, 2019, 09:27:05 PM
Courtesy of Charlie Goerges.  DJR's Delray Municipal GC.
 
Courtesy of Charlie Goerges
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47076539314_b05b492196_h.jpg)r
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on May 16, 2019, 09:54:37 PM
Stanley Thompson's Capilano - July 15, 1935 / courtesy of Charlie Goerges


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40899520393_672e2058a9_k.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on May 16, 2019, 10:05:02 PM
Stiles and Van Kleek's  'Wando Plantation' golf course in Charleston SC for Mrs. E. V. Hartford. Courtesy of Charlie Goerges


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46949927585_752faea010_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on May 16, 2019, 10:32:25 PM
Artist's rendering of Sharp Park that complements an earlier map posted by Sven / courtesy of Charlie Goerges
Quite the trio - Mac, Egan, and Hunter.



(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33988990828_b8676fbbc0_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on May 16, 2019, 11:28:44 PM
Preakness Hills GC, Paterson, NJ - William H. Tucker - December 1926


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47866561611_c1877511e9_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on May 16, 2019, 11:55:18 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47814424622_dccdda6daf_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on May 28, 2019, 11:31:58 PM
Bethpage Blue


July 19, 1936 Brooklyn Daily Eagle -



(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Bethpage%20Black%20-%20Brooklyn%20Daily%20Eagle%20July%2019%201936_zps7tuytiws.jpg)


A larger plan of the entire Bethpage complex


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Bethpage%20Plan_zpsxwupewyc.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: BCrosby on May 29, 2019, 07:01:43 AM
Everyone I have talked to who was around to play the (NLE, 1976) No. 2 course at East Lake thought it was the better of the two EL courses. Remnants of a couple if its holes are still evident in the Charlie Yates short course. There was talk after it was built of creating a composite course with No. 1 for tournaments. I don't know if that ever happened. Logistics usually dictated use of the No. 1 course alone.


EL has one of the original drawings of Ross's No. 2 course. It is magnificent. Unlike the No. 1 course, there is lots of material on it in the Tufts Archive.


I had once assumed that Bob Jones had been involved in picking Ross and in the planning and construction of No. 2. He was by '27/'28 a very prominent figure in the game. But I have found nothing to indicate that Jones was involved. If anyone has other information, I would love to see it.     


Bob


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on May 29, 2019, 10:28:25 AM
The Hills Course and the Dales Course of the Community Country Club in Dayton Ohio, circa 1922.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47958845333_beed912da3.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on June 06, 2019, 02:25:03 PM
From the June 28, 1964 edition of the Sunday News (Lancaster, PA) is this for the now named Lancaster Host golf course (designed by the Gordons):

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/LancasterHost_Sunday_News_Sun__Jun_28__1964_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on June 06, 2019, 02:33:18 PM
This is the North Park golf course from the June 10, 1928 edition of the Pittsburgh Sun Telegraph (figure is clickable):


(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/NorthPark_Pittsburgh_Sun_Telegraph_Sun__Jun_10__1928_.jpg) (http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/NorthPark_Pittsburgh_Sun_Telegraph_Sun__Jun_10__1928_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on June 06, 2019, 02:37:26 PM

This is the South Park golf course from the June 10, 1928 edition of the Pittsburgh Sun Telegraph (figure is clickable):


(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/SouthPark_Pittsburgh_Sun_Telegraph_Sun__Jun_10__1928.jpg) (http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/SouthPark_Pittsburgh_Sun_Telegraph_Sun__Jun_10__1928.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on June 27, 2019, 05:04:03 PM
Macan's Manito


Dec. 11, 1921 Semi-Weekly Spokesman Review -



(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Manito%20-%20Semi-Weekly%20Spokesman%20Review%20Dec.%2011%201921%201_zpsy0bsregv.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on July 05, 2019, 08:04:39 PM

Sven posted this overlay of Multnomah:

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Multnomah%20GC%20Plan_zpsudncfi0z.png)




I came across another view:


(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/578/22785570420_40630cd2d8_o.jpg)


The city offered a prize for the best design and the first layout was by Henry I. Jones and it was said that Vernon Macan might give it a go. The city was looking to have the course designed by a Portland architect, but the final plan was by H.Chandler Egan. The course may have also been known as West Hills. It was built on a county farm that once housed the poor.


The city also had a contest to name the course:


(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5831/22555792788_ecc1dc55cb_o.jpg)



There was a plaster cast made of the property for the contestants to look at. Here's the topo:


(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/769/22960553772_542edaeec0_o.jpg)


Pretty sure the course that Jim is discussing in this old post was the West Hills Municipal GC designed by H. Chandler Egan which was built on the Multnomah farm, hence the confusion with Multnomah GC that was built by William Lock.  Here's a plan of the Lock course:


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Multonomah%20Plan_zpsq8vy87so.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Pete_Pittock on July 05, 2019, 11:35:59 PM
in the previous reply Sven is correct. The 9 course was known as West Hills when I played it in the early 1950s. It was put out of commission in the mid 50s to build the original site of OMSI (about the 7th green) and relocation of the local zoo, which took the place of 2-4. The rest became Hoyt Park Pitch and Putt, which was butchered by the Forestry Center and laid to rest by a Vietnam Memorial. The exit from Canyon Road is still intact and gives reference. A family tree member was killed in a newspaper helicopter crash on the course before I was born,
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on July 10, 2019, 10:31:16 AM
H. Chandler Egan's Indian Canyon GC in Spokane.


Aug. 31, 1930 Semi-Weekly Spokesman-Review -



(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Indian%20Canyon%20-%20Semi-Weekly%20Spokesman-Review%20Aug.%2031%201930_zpspcw7krfm.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on July 11, 2019, 10:17:06 AM
From the April 9, 1989 edition of the Lancaster Sunday News:


(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Crossgates_Sunday_News_Sun__Apr_9__1989_.jpg)


Note, this Crossgates course was built but I don't think to the plans as shown in this diagram!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on July 17, 2019, 10:22:40 AM
Point O'Woods


Aug. 7, 1963 News Palladium -



(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Point%20OWoods%20-%20News%20Palladium%20Aug.%207%201963_zpsdfltbj2i.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on July 17, 2019, 10:24:50 AM
New Paw Paw Lake GC


April 3, 1980 Herald-Palladium -



(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Paw%20Lake%20-%20Herald-Palladium%20April%203%201980_zpsh11ltpib.jpeg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on July 17, 2019, 10:27:15 AM
Bel-Mar CC


April 27, 1966 Belvidere Daily Republican -



(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Bel-Mar%20-%20Belvidere%20Daily%20Republican%20April%2027%201966_zpscbdillbs.jpeg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on July 17, 2019, 10:43:17 AM
Billings Par 3 Course (I like the drawing for this one)


April 24, 1979 Billings Gazette -



(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Billings%20Par%203%20-%20Billings%20Gazette%20April%2024%201979_zpssshv51e7.jpeg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on July 17, 2019, 10:45:35 AM

Harvest Hills GC


Nov. 28, 1970 Bennington Banner -

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Harvest%20Hills%20-%20Bennington%20Banner%20Nov.%2028%201970_zps6h29kxga.jpeg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on July 17, 2019, 10:47:08 AM

Garden City CC (KS)


July 8, 1978 Garden City Telegram -

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Garden%20City%20CC%20KS%20-%20Garden%20City%20Telegram%20July%208%201978_zpsamg3dg3p.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on July 17, 2019, 11:43:09 AM
Keney Park GC


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Keney%20Park%20Plan_zpsbvrz70lo.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on July 17, 2019, 11:47:57 AM

Watershed Park Golf Course


July 6, 1962 Daily Press -

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Watershed%20Park%20-%20Daily%20Press%20July%206%201962_zpsc4entpc1.jpeg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on July 17, 2019, 11:49:55 AM
Pierre CC


Aug. 28, 1963 Manitowoc Herald-Times -



(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Pierre%20-%20Manitowoc%20Herald-Times%20Aug.%2028%201963_zps1gtutgnh.jpeg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on July 22, 2019, 11:35:32 AM
Blue Lakes CC (Twin Falls, ID)


Oct. 19, 1947 The Times-News -



(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Blue%20Lakes%20-%20The%20Times-News%20Oct.%2019%201947_zpsdqtpihry.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on July 22, 2019, 01:39:56 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on July 23, 2019, 05:41:42 PM
Olmsted Brothers plan of Hendrick's Field GC in NJ, 1928 - Charles Banks, Arch.
Courtesy of Charlie Goerges


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48359942402_0814d5231c_o.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on July 23, 2019, 07:25:25 PM
Hendricks Field is still there, albeit a shell of its former self.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on July 23, 2019, 07:48:46 PM
Mike,


I've heard that the routing is supposedly intact. I'm still trying to figure out the 15th green, looks like a draftsman's tyop,  :)  and #4 looks like it's missing a bunker or two.

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tim Martin on July 23, 2019, 08:11:47 PM
Mike,


I've heard that the routing is supposedly intact. I'm still trying to figure out the 15th green, looks like a draftsman's tyop,  :)  and #4 looks like it's missing a bunker or two.


Jim-I know Weequahic Park in Newark was also an Olmsted project and currently has some holes I can’t believe were included in the original design.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on July 25, 2019, 07:52:54 PM

Tim,

I think there was a dozen years between the time OB designed Weequahic Park and George Low designed the golf course.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on July 25, 2019, 08:28:39 PM
Philadelphia CC, 1899

There is a 1922 map of PCC from 1922 posted by Joe Bausch that can be found at reply #509, along with this description from the club itself...
 
Founded in 1897, Bala Golf Club has a long and storied history.The roots of the Bala Golf Club reach back to the spring of 1893 when two men - George Reach and Charles Hickman - watched a well-dressed foursome play the links along a City Avenue golf course. Getting the idea to start their own club, the two men joined with a group of prominent Philadelphians and purchased a plot of farmland just inside the city limits on Belmont Avenue - a location that was easily accessible by trolley or train and built a course on the site, roughly half way between the original homes of Philadelphia Country Club and Overbrook Country Club. That site, laid out by Willie Tyler, provided the club members with a 9 hole, 2,747 yard layout with a par of 35 1/2. Although the original course was higly regarded, the pressure to go to an 18 hole course convinced the membership to act, and, in 1923, William S. Flynn, a noted designer (among them, Rolling Green, Huntington Valley, Cherry Hills in Denver, The Country Club in Brookline, Seaview, Shinnecock Hills, and Lancaster CC), was brought in to renovate the course. Flynn's challenge was to build nine additional holes, fold them into the Tyler design, and fit it all into the existing acreage. He succeeded admirably.

...but it appears that there were already 18 holes two dozen years earlier, so have I mixed this up with another PCC??   

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48376441276_1a74359deb_o.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on July 27, 2019, 12:10:50 PM
From the April 11, 1967 edition of the Public Opinion, this is the Penn National Founders course:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Public_Opinion_Tue__Apr_11__1967_.jpeg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Dave McCollum on July 27, 2019, 02:07:38 PM
Sven--


Thanks for posting reply #1305.  Very interesting to me because that raw land on the other side of the Snake River shown in the photo is the pioneer fruit orchard that became my course, Canyon Springs GC.  We roamed this canyon as kids, not much spoiling our love of this wild landscape by playing golf.  When my father built his own 9-holer in 1972-4 (I helped some), the plan was to add it as the second nine for BLCC, a plan eventually rejected by the membership.  Instead, they used his "first-course" architect, Max Mueller, to build their second nine (Max's office was in our maintenance shed).  Ten years or so later, my father built his second nine. 


I haven't read enough of this thread to know how people use it.  However, perhaps for the first time in the many years I've been on this site, finally there is a post about a topic that I am probably the definitive expert source.  I was born in 1949, the year BLCC opened for play, and have been intimately associated with these properties for 70 years.  If anyone wants to know anything about these courses, I'm your huckleberry.  The routing map posted, for example, is remarkably accurate to what was built.


I showed Tom D. around both these courses a few years ago and his reviews are in his CG, vol 3.   
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on July 28, 2019, 02:07:26 AM
Dave:


I was hoping you would see that routing.


Sven
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Dave McCollum on July 28, 2019, 12:44:35 PM
"...intimately associated with these two courses for 70 years" with a rather major gap of 22 years during which about the only golf I played was when I visited my parents.  I do know the entire history.  These properties were homesteaded and were about the first settlements in an area that is now home to about 100,000 folks.  The homesteader, I.B. Perrine, was the guy responsible for figuring out how to finance the dams and canals to irrigate the sagebrush desert of South Central Idaho, some 1.4 million acres.  His own homestead was a sandy and rocky wasteland not good for much more than fruit trees and grazing animals.  I like to think he wouldn't mind they were eventually converted to golf courses, rather like the original links, and became symbols of the prosperity his vision created.     
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on August 02, 2019, 11:14:16 AM
The Olmsted planting plan for AMac/Hunter Meadow Club of Tamalpais in California, ca. 1928, courtesy of charlie Georges.
It stays pretty clear to about a 150% enlargement of your screen.



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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on August 24, 2019, 09:21:10 AM
Donald Ross - 1915 - OPCC, River Grove Il.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48611596356_6e3f0a3f0d_o.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on August 24, 2019, 10:26:16 AM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on August 24, 2019, 11:30:58 AM
Holes # 4 & 8 must have been beautiful, and fun to play.

Golfer's Magazine - 1905
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on August 24, 2019, 11:48:09 AM
Golfer's Magazine 1904/5




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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on August 24, 2019, 11:56:42 AM
Golfer's Magazine - 1904/05


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on August 24, 2019, 12:10:31 PM
Golfer's Magazine -  1904/5

Quite a history at KCC, Grand Rapids Mi, as revealed by this article from Terry Moore. 

http://theaposition.com/teemoore/golf/personalities/1383/kent-country-club-a-treasure-trove-of-golf-history (http://theaposition.com/teemoore/golf/personalities/1383/kent-country-club-a-treasure-trove-of-golf-history)

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on August 24, 2019, 12:35:33 PM

Minikhada as a 9 hole course - 1904/5 Golfer's Magazine

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on August 25, 2019, 03:25:54 PM
Golfer's Magazine  -1908


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on August 25, 2019, 03:27:15 PM
Golfer's Magazine - 1908


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48619257162_9c4f37def6_o.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on August 25, 2019, 03:29:35 PM
Golfer's Magazine  - 1908

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48618758743_f2be1f2b5e_o.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on August 25, 2019, 03:31:27 PM

Golfer's Magazine  - 1908

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on September 02, 2019, 12:00:02 PM
There's a plan of this course back at reply #1205. Here's another that shows a few different hole configurations and identifies Alex Bell as the designer.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48665529093_e40db09e84_c.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on September 03, 2019, 08:21:54 AM
Cherokee CC (Knoxville, TN) from the July 2, 1915 issue of the Knoxville Sentinel (this image is clickable to a larger size):


(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/Cherokee/Cherokee_map_Knoxville_Sentinel_Fri__Jul_2__1915.jpg) (http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/Cherokee/Cherokee_map_Knoxville_Sentinel_Fri__Jul_2__1915.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on September 03, 2019, 11:30:22 AM
There are a couple Swananoa plans posted here, but here's the one from a newspaper, the  Asheville Daily Gazette, Asheville, North Carolina, Sun Apr 16 1899. 

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48671830436_bcf798ae87_h.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on September 03, 2019, 12:26:02 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48671817833_378140e6e6_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on September 08, 2019, 08:14:17 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on September 09, 2019, 09:38:32 PM

CC of Fairfield, from the back of a 1928 Scorecard -

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Fairfield%20CC%20of%20Scorecard%20-%201928%202_zpsoqo0bkbe.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on September 09, 2019, 09:39:28 PM

Bellport, from the back of an old scorecard.

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Bellport%20Scorecard%201_zpsmlftsjrh.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on October 12, 2019, 09:52:14 AM

Royal Muskoka - July 1915 Canadian Golfer

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Royal%20Muskoka%20-%20Canadian%20Golfer%20July%201915_zpsvarnfbpg.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on October 12, 2019, 09:53:55 AM
St. Andrews-By-The-Sea - July 1915 Canadian Golfer


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/St.%20Andrews-By-The-Sea%20Plan%20-%20Canadian%20Golfer%20July%201915_zpsj9p2fzcs.png)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 02, 2019, 08:57:33 AM

Meadow Lake G&CC (Chattanooga, TN) -


Jan. 27, 1929 Chattanooga Daily Times

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Meadow%20Lake%20Plan%20-%20Chattanooga%20Daily%20Times%20Jan.%2027%201929_zps4mmmqlqr.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 02, 2019, 09:09:36 AM
Signal Mountain Golf Links


March 12, 1916 Chattanooga Daily Times -



(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Signal%20Mountain%20Plan%20-%20Chattanooga%20Daily%20Times%20March%2012%201916_zpse1ky1red.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 02, 2019, 09:14:02 AM
Brainerd G&CC


Feb. 17, 1924 Chattanooga Daily Times -



(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Brainerd%20-%20Chattanooga%20Daily%20Times%20Feb.%2017%201924_zps1knydlcx.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 05, 2019, 11:47:08 AM
Quail Creek CC


March 13, 1960 Daily Oklahoman -



(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Quail%20Creek%20-%20Daily%20Oklahoman%20March%2013%201960_zpsl8c1x4ho.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 08, 2019, 09:55:20 AM
Lakeside Park GC


July 14, 1928 Shreveport Journal -



(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Lakeside%20-%20Shreveport%20Journal%20July%2014%201928_zpsarsdkuss.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 08, 2019, 10:28:10 AM
Ellis Park Municipal Golf Course (Cedar Rapids, IA)


Sept. 14, 1941 The Gazette -



(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Ellis%20Park%20Plan%20-%20The%20Gazette%20Sept.%2014%201941_zpsuiunm9gj.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 11, 2019, 11:47:17 AM

A 1920 Olmsted plan for the NLE Aviation CC (aka Lochhaven CC and Green Lake CC).


Although the map doesn't contain a drawing of the course, it does contain notations for the locations of greens (marked with a circled G), tees (circled T's) and fairways (circled F's).

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Aviation%20CC%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%201920_zpsfxaybxxb.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 11, 2019, 12:22:18 PM
A 1917 Olmsted Plan of Sleepy Hollow.


The map was seemingly prepared in connection with plans for the residential development of the course, with a number of proposed alterations to the routing noted on the map.  One item of note is that in 1917 someone was contemplating the expansion of the course eastward after the Redan, a move that would be carried out a good bit later.



(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Sleepy%20Hollow%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%201917_zps78iq2hxf.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 11, 2019, 12:33:14 PM
A collection of Olmsted plans for Palos Verdes Estates.


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Palos%20Verdes%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%201924_zpsueed3yvt.jpg)



(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Palos%20Verdes%20Estates%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%201927_zpsmu6nl4ou.jpg)


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Palos%20Verdes%20Golf%20Course%20Olmsted%20Plan%20-%20April%201927_zpsz6ruhnni.jpg)


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Palos%20Verdes%20Olmsted%20Golf%20Map%20-%201924_zpsjdtocrra.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 08, 2019, 10:59:52 AM
Stockton Community Golf Course aka San Joaquin GC


April 28, 1923 Stockton Evening Record


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/snilsen7060/Stockton%20Plan%20-%20Stockton%20Evening%20Record%20April%2028%201923_zpsqvs43iv4.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 08, 2019, 11:38:08 AM
Brockway-Tahoe Club


Jan. 5, 1924 Stockton Daily Evening Record -



(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Brockway-Tahoe%20Plan%20-%20Stockton%20Daily%20Evening%20Record%20Jan.%205%201924_zpsylamrhv9.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 08, 2019, 05:13:15 PM

Long Beach CC nka Meadowlark GC


April 13, 1924 Long Beach Telegram -

(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/A1%20Album/Long%20Beach%20CC%20Plan%20-%20Long%20Beach%20Telegram%20April%2013%201924_zpsbcspeceq.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 28, 2019, 10:32:42 AM

Woodbridge G&CC


June 7, 1924 Stockton Daily Evening Record -

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 13, 2020, 09:16:10 AM
Cherry Hills (June 4, 1938 edition of the Chester Times).

(http://i44.tinypic.com/33xvdxu.jpg)


Probably the same set of plans that was included in Joe's post, just from a different paper.



June 8, 1938 Charlotte News -



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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 13, 2020, 11:57:12 PM
Andover CC f/k/a Shawsheen CC


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 15, 2020, 09:57:28 AM
Rangely Lake House - 1922


(https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/snilsen7069/Rangeley%20Lake%20Plan%20-%201922_zpsgzn6buoc.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on January 28, 2020, 11:46:06 AM
Forest Park Municipal Golf Course:  Proposed changes to the golf course in 1920.
St. Louis Post-Dispatch., February 22, 1920 (Sent from Nigel Islam)


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on January 28, 2020, 12:02:02 PM
Rock Island Arsenal Golf Club, 1906.
Rock Island Argus., August 25, 1906


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on January 28, 2020, 12:13:27 PM

Winter Park 9:

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on February 04, 2020, 03:00:07 PM
Found this in my email today, from Bret Lawrence:

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Willie Park's Design for New Haven Country Club - 1921 (Below):


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tim Martin on February 04, 2020, 04:46:07 PM
Bret-Do you know when # 14 at NHCC was changed from a par four to a par five? It was the only weak hole on the golf course before they ultimately changed it back which is only in the last ten years. North of 450 yards in 1921 was a stout par four.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on February 05, 2020, 09:14:13 AM
Tim:


I don't know exactly when New Haven Country Club changed their 14th hole from a Par 4 to a Par 5.


Here is an excerpt from the club's Fifty-Year Anniversary book including a quote from Willie Park .  This was written in 1948, which might give some insight as to how Willie Park would have felt about the change.


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Bret
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tim Martin on February 05, 2020, 11:02:45 AM
Tim:


I don't know exactly when New Haven Country Club changed their 14th hole from a Par 4 to a Par 5.


Here is an excerpt from the club's Fifty-Year Anniversary book including a quote from Willie Park .  This was written in 1948, which might give some insight as to how Willie Park would have felt about the change.


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Bret


Bret-When you look at NHCC’s website their course tour has a written description that makes reference to going for the green in two with a good drive on 14. Considering the only hazards for the length of the hole come in the form of sand I wonder if the description isn’t a holdover from when the hole played as a par 5? As far as I can hit it I can’t reach the green in two but if I have a look there is nothing to keep me from whacking away. It was a crazy hard par 4 in the 1920’s and one hundred years later remains a hard hole.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 09, 2020, 11:39:07 AM

Los Angeles CC - July 4, 1911 Los Angeles Times -

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 11, 2020, 06:22:33 PM

There are a couple of earlier views of this layout on the list. 
This one touts -  "The deft hand of Walter J. Travis, four times champion at Oakland, are seen at frequent points on the links. Travis Is the sponsor for many of the bunkers and traps, and has been a factor In making the course as exacting as it is."
 

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on February 11, 2020, 06:36:58 PM
I love this thread.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Greg Smith on February 11, 2020, 09:14:57 PM
Jim --


This particular map of Oakland (which shows the pre-Raynor version) is confusing me.  It shows several holes that would be very long for that day (510y, 541y, 585y).  But I am looking right at Dan Wexler's map of the Raynor re-work that is featured in Missing Links.  That golf course is squished and crunched in there -- the longest holes SR could contrive were of the 440-yard range.  How is this possible?  I always thought SR was a real master at routing.  Did Oakland lose or sell a chunk of land somewhere that constricted Raynor's design? Or is the map just way off the mark?  Below is my routing comparison -- wish I had the digital skills to do some sort of overlay.




Old 1st (220y) - starting at Raynor's 10th tee, to a green site in the middle of the DZ.
Old 2nd (163y) - tee near site of Raynor's 10th green, playing to a spot in the DZ of Raynor's 11th.  Okay.  Fine so far.
Old 3rd (510y) - corresponding to the corridor of Raynor's 12th, which was 425 yards (and crunched in there pretty tightly on the Wexler map).  That hole just wouldn't fit.
Old 4th (319y) - covering the corridor where Raynor built his Redan 13th, and continuing on to finish at the site of Raynor's 4th green.  Okay then.
Old 5th (311y) - corresponding to Raynor's 5th of 300 yards. 
Old 6th (541y) - this map shows the tee behind and to the left of the old 5th green (i.e. no walkback).  It also shows the old 6th green in proper relationship to the 7th tee.  But the Wexler map shows Raynor's (3-shot) 6th of 445 yards as shoehorned in there, certainly no room to stretch out another 100 yards.
Old 7th (331y) - corresponding roughly to Raynor's 7th (385y), but perhaps with the green site on the opposite side of the ravine from Raynor's hole which dog-legged left over the hazard.  The map of the old version does not show the ravine, so I'm guessing here.
Old 8th (140y) - corresponding to Raynor's 8th of 155 yards.
Old 9th (368y) - corresponding to Raynor's 9th of 408 yards.
Old 10th (344y) - on land mostly unused by Raynor, with a green site out in the field to the right of Raynor's 1st fairway.
Old 11th (385y) - following the second half of Raynor's 1st, but continuing on to finish at the site of Raynor's 2nd green.
Old 12th (464y) - corresponding to Raynor's 3rd of 435 yards.  I can buy that.
Old 13th (263y) - Playing across two Raynor hole corridors to finish near the site of his 14th tee.
Old 14th (585y) - Used the corridor of Raynor's Biarritz 14th, and continued on through the corridor of Raynor's 15th.  Okay, but on the Wexler map that 15th green was much further down, right up next to the 2nd green (old 11th).  This map shows the green site a good distance shy of that point.  The configuration just can't square with a hole of 585 yards.
Old 15th (325y) - Corresponding to Raynor's 16th of 350 yards.
Old 16th (413y) - Corresponding to Raynor's 17th of 415 yards.
Old 17th (316y) and 18th (218y) - both fit in the hole corridor of Raynor's 18th (445y).


***


The perceived weakness of Raynor's (otherwise excellent) Oakland course was lack of length. Yet it seems the old version had a number of stout holes.  Unless there was some loss of land I can't explain what's going on with this map.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 11, 2020, 09:48:35 PM
Here's a '24 aerial, big chunk of land missing, new location for the clubhouse.


 
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 11, 2020, 10:04:59 PM
Greg,


There was a thread on Oakland that had lot of info, from Bendelow and Travis, to Raynor and Gerard, etc., but I can't seem to find it.
 
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on February 12, 2020, 05:48:08 PM
Jim,


Is this the thread you're referring to?


https://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,54950.msg1561431/topicseen.html#msg1561431.


Alic Gerard was the pro at Mountain Lake for many years followed by his son Alic "Buddy" Gerard Jr.  Sometimes spelled Alick Alec, or Aleck.


Bret
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 17, 2020, 07:34:40 PM
Could be Bret, although I'm thinking it was longer than one page. Thanks for posting that one.


This course was the product of  "George Davies, well known links architect and engineer".

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 17, 2020, 08:06:44 PM
Laid out by Ben Knight, the club's professional.

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 18, 2020, 11:20:59 PM
First newspaper version of Raynor's Lookout Mountain course that I've seen.

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 19, 2020, 07:38:18 PM
Anchors Aweigh

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 21, 2020, 03:20:16 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 21, 2020, 03:21:28 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 21, 2020, 03:22:44 PM
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on February 21, 2020, 03:27:01 PM
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Olmsted Associates. Olmsted Associates Records: Job Files, -1971; Files; 7591; Armstrong, Rella A.; Belmont Hotel; Annapolis, Md.; 1926 to 1927. - 1927, 1926. Manuscript/Mixed Material. Retrieved from the Library of Congress, <www.loc.gov/item/mss5257105250/>.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 29, 2020, 12:10:14 PM
A 1925 Olmsted plan for an 18 hole course at Morro Bay.



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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 27, 2020, 09:47:58 PM
Manito GC


April 1, 1917 Spokesman-Review -



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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 27, 2020, 10:00:14 PM
St. Joseph Valley CC


April 1, 1905 South Bend Tribune -



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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 31, 2020, 02:11:33 PM
Lincoln Park GC, San Francisco, CA


Aug. 4, 1918 San Francisco Examiner -



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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on March 31, 2020, 02:39:17 PM
Seminole GC in Dayton Beach, FL (not to be confused with the Ross course in North Palm Beach)


Jan. 6, 1926 Miami Herald -



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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 13, 2020, 10:11:20 AM
Royal Troon (from the June 10, 1923 edition of the Brooklyn Times):

(this image is clickable to a larger size)

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Troon_Brooklyn_Times_Union_Sun__Jun_10__1923.jpg) (http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Troon_Brooklyn_Times_Union_Sun__Jun_10__1923.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 20, 2020, 09:19:08 AM
This map was posted in another paper earlier in the thread, but this image might be clearer. 

From the July 28, 1915 issue of the Paterson Morning Call:

(this map is clickable to a much larger size)

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/NorthJerseyCC_July28_1915_PatersonMorningCall.jpg) (http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/NorthJerseyCC_July28_1915_PatersonMorningCall.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on April 21, 2020, 12:52:37 PM
Joe,

Any idea if that 18 hole course at North Jersey ever opened?

The club's website seems to indicate that they didn't have 18 holes until the Travis design that opened in 1923.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on April 21, 2020, 09:06:50 PM
Joe,

Any idea if that 18 hole course at North Jersey ever opened?

The club's website seems to indicate that they didn't have 18 holes until the Travis design that opened in 1923.


I'm thinking their webpage is incorrect.  The Club goes back to the 1890's, I think.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on May 03, 2020, 04:05:40 PM
Montebello GC - 1927 Plan


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Mammel on May 07, 2020, 11:42:06 AM
Sorry, trying to post a map. I'll figure it out.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on May 28, 2020, 10:30:08 AM
Augusta CC (Dec. 1904 Golfers Magazine) -

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A 1924 Map of Augusta CC (aka Bon Air Vanderbilt):


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on May 28, 2020, 10:35:29 AM
Two Swope Park plans.


Jan. 25, 1934 Kansas City Times -



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Feb. 27, 1935 Kansas City Times -


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Mark Mammel on June 06, 2020, 09:24:57 PM
WBYC 1915 map
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on June 08, 2020, 01:17:32 PM
Mark Mammel,

I've not been to White Bear Yacht Club but I'm curious how close to today's course is that 1915 drawing?   

Did it change significantly after that?   Thanks for any information!
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on July 28, 2020, 01:57:58 PM
Edgewood (Drums, PA) from the May 13, 1981 edition of The Citizens Voice (a David Gordon design):

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/EdgewoodinthePines_Citizens__Voice_Wed__May_13__1981_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on November 17, 2020, 05:15:54 PM
From the Times Journal (Saturday, October 22, 1955), early plans for Buena Vista CC (Buena, NJ):

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/BuenaVista_The_Daily_Journal_Sat__Oct_22__1955_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 19, 2020, 09:49:36 PM

Plans prepared for Coquillard GC (n/k/a Morris Park) in South Bend, IN.


Sept. 7, 1924 South Bend Tribune -

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 19, 2020, 11:46:47 PM
Delaware Park Municipal GC, Buffalo, NY


May 2, 1916 Buffalo Courier -



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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on November 25, 2020, 03:31:03 PM
Hollywood CC


Oct. 3, 1919 Los Angeles Evening Citizen News -



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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on November 26, 2020, 08:13:30 AM
Mount Kisco CC from the November 6, 1929 Daily Press.


(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/MountKisco_Nov6_1929_DailyPress.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on November 26, 2020, 08:34:28 AM
Finger Lakes Golf and CC (March 14, 1973 Courier Journal):


(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/FingerLakes_March14_1973_CourierJournal.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 02, 2020, 09:29:45 AM
Highland Springs GC from the March 25, 1966 edition of the Rock Island Argus.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/HighlandSprings_The_Rock_Island_Argus_Fri__Mar_25__1966_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 02, 2020, 09:42:52 AM
I'm not sure if this 9 holes at Miami Springs ever got built.  This from the Feb 23, 1958 edition of the Miami News:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/MiamiSprings_The_Miami_News_Sun__Feb_23__1958_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 02, 2020, 09:50:45 AM
Randolph Park from the July 31, 1957 edition of the Tucson Daily Citizen.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/RandolphPark_Tucson_Daily_Citizen_Wed__Jul_31__1957_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 02, 2020, 09:54:02 AM
Manchester Country Club from the April 28, 1966 edition of the Bennington Banner.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/ManchesterCC_Bennington_Banner_Thu__Apr_28__1966_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 02, 2020, 09:57:01 AM
Waveland Golf Course from the November 26, 1932 edition of the Des Moines Register.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Waveland_The_Des_Moines_Register_Sat__Nov_26__1932_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 02, 2020, 10:00:05 AM
Shorewood Golf Club from the November 24, 1937 edition of the Green Bay Press Gazette.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Shorewood_Green_Bay_Press_Gazette_Wed__Nov_24__1937_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on December 02, 2020, 10:24:25 AM
Manchester Country Club from the April 28, 1966 edition of the Bennington Banner.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/ManchesterCC_Bennington_Banner_Thu__Apr_28__1966_.png)


Yes, I recall we looked at that one from the parking lot.  ;)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on December 02, 2020, 10:40:43 AM
I'm not sure if this 9 holes at Miami Springs ever got built.  This from the Feb 23, 1958 edition of the Miami News:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/MiamiSprings_The_Miami_News_Sun__Feb_23__1958_.png)
Joe,


Looking at old aerials, I think the answer is that some of it got built.   I think possibly all of it did, but then that was revised in the 1980s.

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 02, 2020, 03:28:00 PM
EDIT:  Oops, Sven posted this one already earlier in the thread.

This Tom Bendelow design started as Coquillard Golf Club, now it is the Morris Park CC; this from the September 7, 1924 edition of the South Bend Tribune.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/MorrisPark_The_South_Bend_Tribune_Sun__Sep_7__1924_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Matthew Petersen on December 02, 2020, 03:31:16 PM
Randolph Park from the July 31, 1957 edition of the Tucson Daily Citizen.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/RandolphPark_Tucson_Daily_Citizen_Wed__Jul_31__1957_.png)


Thanks for this, Joe. Interesting to me as I got around the Randolph courses a fair amount while in school in Tucson.


The North course ("existing" as labeled on the map) was a 1925 William P Bell design. It exists today with essentially the same layout as is seen here, except at some point they moved the 18th tee closer to the 9th, probably to accommodate a recreation center that was built more or less in the area where the old clubhouse was.


The "proposed" course was laid out by Bell's son, William F Bell. It opened in 1961 and was known as Randolph South. It was very much considered the lesser of the two courses. On my first visit to Tucson in 1993 I recall having a few hours to squeeze in some golf before a spring training game at adjacent Hi Corbett Field. The pro said that the South was empty and we might get 12 or even 18 holes in, while we might only get through 9 on the North, but nonetheless he strongly recommended we play the North.


The South was renovated by Ken Kavanaugh in 1996 and ever since has been known as Dell Urich. The course follows the Bell routing as seen in the image proposed above, but Kavanaugh moved a great deal of earth and turned what had been a flat and pretty boring short course into one with a lot more interest. The LPGA played here for a few years (they've also played at the North).


When I was in school, I was equally happy to play either of the courses at Randolph Park, if I had a free afternoon and the funds (and transportation). For courses on similar land, they offered a good contrast of style--the North a longer, very traditional-style course, Dell Urich a shorter course that asked for precision and offered a lot more chances to make decisions, uneven lies and risk/reward.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 02, 2020, 03:46:55 PM
I'm not sure if this golf course designed by William Mitchell in Rock Tavern, NY ever got built.  I'm confident the GCA crowd can help me out!

This from the February 4, 1954 edition of the Newburgh News:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/RockTavern_NewburghNews_February4_1954.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 02, 2020, 04:02:13 PM
I'm not sure this par 29 course ever was built, although on this property I believe is the current 18-hole Saratoga National Golf Club.

This from the February 26, 1969 edition of the Saratogian:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/SmithFarm_TheSaratogian_February26_1969.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on December 02, 2020, 04:21:41 PM
Endwell Greens in Endwell, NY in 1966 by Geoffrey Cornish/William Robinson.

Still exists much the same to this day, I believe.

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 03, 2020, 02:48:12 PM
This I believe is the current Shark River course, from the July 17, 1920 edition of Asbury Park Evening Press:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/SharkRiver_Asbury_Park_Press_Sat__Jul_17__1920_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 03, 2020, 02:52:35 PM
Oakmont; from the June 13, 1927 edition of The Evening Sun:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Oakmont_The_Evening_Sun_Mon__Jun_13__1927_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 03, 2020, 02:57:08 PM
I don't believe this Palolo course exists anymore; this from the April 19, 1929 edition of the Honolulu Star Bulletin:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Palolo_Honolulu_Star_Bulletin_Fri__Apr_19__1929_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 03, 2020, 03:00:12 PM
I believe this is the current Hunter Golf Club; this from the October 21, 1931 edition of the Meriden Daily Journal.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/HunterGolfClub_The_Meriden_Daily_Journal_Wed__Oct_21__1931_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 03, 2020, 03:03:45 PM
Pontoosuc Lake CC; this from the July 1, 1936 edition of the Berkshire County Eagle.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/PontoosucLake_The_Berkshire_County_Eagle_Wed__Jul_1__1936_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 03, 2020, 03:07:58 PM
I've not been able to figure out yet if this municipal course was ever built, or if it was, if it still exists.  The town is Richmond, IN.

This from the April 12, 1937 edition of The Palladium:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/RichmondMuni_Palladium_Item_Mon__Apr_12__1937_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 03, 2020, 03:31:11 PM
This is the current Lake Michigan Hills GC; this from the September 23, 1965 edition of The News Palladium.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/LakeMichiganHills_The_News_Palladium_Thu__Sep_23__1965_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 03, 2020, 03:44:42 PM
This is the Forest Akers West course; this from the July 15, 1956 edition of the Lansing State Journal.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/ForestAkersWest_Lansing_State_Journal_Sun__Jul_15__1956_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 03, 2020, 03:53:59 PM
This is Lake Venice Golf Club; from the April 13, 1958 edition of the Tampa Bay Times.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/LakeVenice_Tampa_Bay_Times_Sun__Apr_13__1958_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 03, 2020, 04:03:25 PM
This is the Iroquois Golf Course; this from the November 2, 1945 edition of The Courier Journal.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Iroquois_The_Courier_Journal_Fri__Nov_2__1945_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 03, 2020, 04:22:27 PM
I don't think this course is open anymore, once the course for Southern Miss U; this from the January 12, 1959 edition of the Hattiesburg American.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/SouthernMissU_Hattiesburg_American_Mon__Jan_12__1959_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 03, 2020, 04:30:05 PM
This is the Bradshaw Ranch GC; this from the September 7, 1989 edition of The Sacramento Bee.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/BradshawRanch_The_Sacramento_Bee_Thu__Sep_7__1989_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 03, 2020, 04:43:50 PM
I think this course eventually became the site of the current Horton Smith muni in Springfield, MO; this from the March 17, 1929 edition of the Springfield Leader and Press.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/HortonSmith_Springfield_Leader_and_Press_Sun__Mar_17__1929_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 03, 2020, 04:52:32 PM
The Chi Chi Rodriguez GC; this from the September 30, 1985 edition of the Tampa Bay Times.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/ChiChiRodriguezGC_Tampa_Bay_Times_Mon__Sep_30__1985_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 03, 2020, 05:09:39 PM
I can't quite figure out if this course was built/still exists; this from the June 7, 1968 Decatur Herald.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/EffinghamGC_The_Decatur_Herald_Fri__Jun_7__1968_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 03, 2020, 05:23:02 PM
This is early plans for Zanesville CC; this from the May 23, 1931 edition of The Times Recorder.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/ZanesvilleCC_The_Times_Recorder_Sat__May_23__1931_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 03, 2020, 05:37:27 PM
I don't this this Painted Desert CC (Winslow, AZ) exists anymore; this from the March 26, 1959 edition of the Arizona Daily Sun.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/PaintedDesertCC_Arizona_Daily_Sun_Thu__Mar_26__1959_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 03, 2020, 05:45:22 PM
This is Coldstream CC; this from the June 24, 1959 edition of The Cincinnati Enquirer.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/ColdstreamCC_The_Cincinnati_Enquirer_Wed__Jun_24__1959_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 03, 2020, 05:51:06 PM
This is Benton CC; from the July 16, 1964 edition of The Yazoo Herald.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/BentonCC_The_Yazoo_Herald_Thu__Jul_16__1964_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Nigel Islam on December 03, 2020, 08:17:15 PM
I can't quite figure out if this course was built/still exists; this from the June 7, 1968 Decatur Herald.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/EffinghamGC_The_Decatur_Herald_Fri__Jun_7__1968_.png)


Joe, there is a course in the town, but this location seems East of the current course. I think Route 45 is US 45 and there is still a Park Hills drive. If you go to Google maps and search the Dietrich Bank this area seems just to the NE.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tim_Cronin on December 04, 2020, 04:00:49 PM
I can't quite figure out if this course was built/still exists; this from the June 7, 1968 Decatur Herald.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/EffinghamGC_The_Decatur_Herald_Fri__Jun_7__1968_.png)


Joe, there is a course in the town, but this location seems East of the current course. I think Route 45 is US 45 and there is still a Park Hills drive. If you go to Google maps and search the Dietrich Bank this area seems just to the NE.


This course is gone. Most of the course areas have been filled in by housing. It's on Google Maps or Google Earth immediately north of St. Anthony High on the north side of town. There are grain elevators across the street from the double-lane entrance.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Nigel Islam on December 05, 2020, 01:29:52 PM
Thanks Tim, that’s what I was seeing as well. Do you know when the current course built?
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 05, 2020, 03:00:26 PM
Seneca Golf Course; this from the January 28, 1934 edition of the Louisville Courier Journal.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Seneca_The_Courier_Journal_Sun__Jan_28__1934_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 05, 2020, 03:08:59 PM
Soule Park golf course; this from the November 10, 1959 edition of the Ventura County Star Free Press.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/SoulePark_Ventura_County_Star_Free_Press_Tue__Nov_10__1959_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 05, 2020, 03:13:39 PM
This is the Percy Warner golf course (now 9 holes it seems); this from the September 20, 1962 edition of the Nashville Banner.

With an assist from Sven:  This is the Harpeth Hills GC in Percy Warner Park.  Pretty sure the course still has 18 holes.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/PercyWarner_Nashville_Banner_Thu__Sep_20__1962_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 05, 2020, 03:27:15 PM
Need some help, here:  did this course in St. Pete ever get built?  This from the May 2, 1975 edition of the Tampa Bay Times:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/StPetersburgMuni_Tampa_Bay_Times_Fri__May_2__1975_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 05, 2020, 03:34:04 PM
Falcon Ridge in Kansas City; this from the December 9, 1995 edition of The Kansas City Star.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/FalconRidge_The_Kansas_City_Star_Sat__Dec_9__1995_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 05, 2020, 03:37:00 PM
Madisonville CC; this from the July 31, 1987 edition of The Messenger.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/MadisonvilleCC_The_Messenger_Fri__Jul_31__1987_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 05, 2020, 03:41:33 PM
Salina Municipal Golf Course; this from the July 12, 1970 edition of The Salina Journal.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Salina_The_Salina_Journal_Sun__Jul_12__1970_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 05, 2020, 03:45:18 PM
Candler Park Golf Course; this from the May 5, 1983 edition of the Atlanta Constitution.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/CandlerPark_The_Atlanta_Constitution_Thu__May_5__1983_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 05, 2020, 03:54:45 PM
Devou Park; this from the March 29, 1994 edition of The Cincinnati Enquirer.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/DevouPark_The_Cincinnati_Enquirer_Tue__Mar_29__1994_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 05, 2020, 04:02:42 PM
Wilkes Barre Golf Club; this from the February 24, 1967 edition of Wilkes Barre Times Evening Leader.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/WilkesBarreGC_Wilkes_Barre_Times_Leader__The_Evening_News_Fri__Feb_24__1967_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 05, 2020, 04:15:13 PM
This is the Percy Warner golf course (now 9 holes it seems); this from the September 20, 1962 edition of the Nashville Banner.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/PercyWarner_Nashville_Banner_Thu__Sep_20__1962_.jpg)


This is the Harpeth Hills GC in Percy Warner Park.  Pretty sure the course still has 18 holes.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 05, 2020, 04:32:36 PM
This is the Elks Lodge and Country Club in Richmond, IN; this from the April 12, 1964 edition of The Palladium.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/ElksLodge_Palladium_Item_Sun__Apr_12__1964_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 05, 2020, 04:41:46 PM
Lake Tahoe Golf Course; this from the September 30, 2011 edition of The Sacramento Bee.

A quick look at Google Earth suggest these changes have not happened.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/LakeTahoeGC_The_Sacramento_Bee_Fri__Sep_30__2011_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 05, 2020, 05:03:36 PM
I think this is the McDonald Hills Golf Club; from the July 8, 1976 edition of The Kingsport Times.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/McDonaldHills_Kingsport_Times_Thu__Jul_8__1976_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on December 05, 2020, 07:05:01 PM
Wilkes Barre Golf Club; this from the February 24, 1967 edition of Wilkes Barre Times Evening Leader.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/WilkesBarreGC_Wilkes_Barre_Times_Leader__The_Evening_News_Fri__Feb_24__1967_.jpg)


I loved this course as a kid.  It may have been the first "championship" course I ever played with real cloverleaf shaped sand traps.. 72 in all.


The stretch of 11, 12, and 13 was my own Amen Corner.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 05, 2020, 07:20:11 PM
I believe this is the current Hunter Golf Club; this from the October 21, 1931 edition of the Meriden Daily Journal.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/HunterGolfClub_The_Meriden_Daily_Journal_Wed__Oct_21__1931_.jpg)


An updated plan for the same course.


April 7, 1932 Meriden Daily Journal -


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 05, 2020, 07:25:16 PM
Lost Creek CC (Lima, OH)


April 22, 1925 Lima News -



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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on December 06, 2020, 09:42:24 AM
Incidentally, the Geoffrey Cornish routing of Wilkes Barre shown in that photo must have been very preliminary.   It looks nothing like that.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 06, 2020, 11:03:41 AM
Pioneers Golf Course; this from the March 27, 1930 edition of The Lincoln Star.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Pioneers_The_Lincoln_Star_Thu__Mar_27__1930_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 06, 2020, 03:43:05 PM
Pleasant View Golf Course (now NLE, I believe); this from the May 26, 1932 edition of The Meriden Daily Journal.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/PleasantView_The_Meriden_Daily_Journal_Thu__May_26__1932_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 06, 2020, 03:46:20 PM
Canterbury Golf Club; this from the June 9, 1946 edition of The Kansas City Star.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Canterbury_The_Kansas_City_Star_Sun__Jun_9__1946_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 06, 2020, 03:49:18 PM
Indian Hills Country Club; this from the July 22, 1948 edition of the Daily World.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/IndianHills_Daily_World_Thu__Jul_22__1948_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 06, 2020, 03:52:58 PM
Allentown Municipal; this from the May 9, 1951 edition of The Morning Call.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/The_Morning_Call_Wed__May_9__1951_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 06, 2020, 03:56:30 PM
Scovill Golf Club; this from the July 22, 1956 edition of The Decatur Herald.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Scovill_The_Decatur_Herald_Sun__Jul_22__1956_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 06, 2020, 03:59:05 PM
Hidden Valley CC; this from the September 8, 1956 edition of the Reno Gazette Journal.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/HiddenValleyCC_Reno_Gazette_Journal_Sat__Sep_8__1956_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 06, 2020, 04:02:17 PM
Corral de Tierra CC; this from the March 27, 1959 edition of The Californian.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/CorraldeTierra_The_Californian_Fri__Mar_27__1959_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 06, 2020, 04:05:01 PM
Faries Park (this course now NLE); this from the May 24, 1959 edition of The Decatur Herald.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/FariesPark_The_Decatur_Herald_Sun__May_24__1959_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 06, 2020, 04:08:05 PM
Hattiesburg CC; this from the June 15, 1959 of the Hattiesburg American.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/HattiesburgCC_Hattiesburg_American_Mon__Jun_15__1959_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 06, 2020, 04:10:34 PM
Riverside CC; this from the August 23, 1959 edition of The Daily Herald Sun.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/RiversideCC_The_Daily_Herald_Sun__Aug_23__1959_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 06, 2020, 04:13:13 PM
Meadow Lake Acres; this from the March 6, 1960 edition of The Sunday News and Tribune.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/MeadowLakeAcres_The_Sunday_News_and_Tribune_Sun__Mar_6__1960_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 06, 2020, 04:15:39 PM
Fairmount CC; this from the June 2, 1960 edition of The Madison Eagle.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/FairmountCC_The_Madison_Eagle_Thu__Jun_2__1960_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 06, 2020, 04:18:08 PM
This is Green Valley GC; this from the October 8, 1960 edition of Sioux City Journal.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/GreenValleyGC_Sioux_City_Journal_Sat__Oct_8__1960_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 07, 2020, 05:31:51 AM
Shepherd Hills GC; this from the July 18, 1962 edition of The Morning Call.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/ShepherdHills_The_Morning_Call_Wed__Jul_18__1962_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 07, 2020, 05:35:53 AM
This is Westview CC, which it appears is NLE; this from the April 20, 1965 edition of the Marshfield News Herald.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Westview_Marshfield_News_Herald_Tue__Apr_20__1965_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 07, 2020, 05:43:48 AM
Washington Park GC; this from the August 17, 1966 edition of The Journal Times.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/WashingtonPark_The_Journal_Times_Wed__Aug_17__1966_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on December 07, 2020, 09:53:38 AM
Rock Spring 1926 layout.  West Orange, NJ:


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on December 07, 2020, 10:02:14 AM
Mountain Brook Country Club, Birmingham, Alabama 1929:


(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ag323/bretjlawrence/001(1).jpg) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/bretjlawrence/a/a262d2bd-f3be-467b-a9cd-2816e5d7d000/p/7516f974-a895-463f-8612-b306cb3ab9f1) (https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ag323/bretjlawrence/001.jpg) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/bretjlawrence/a/a262d2bd-f3be-467b-a9cd-2816e5d7d000/p/924b855c-5984-4d66-a7b7-a6d06488176c)


I tried to get these two pages together as best I could. The map came from a brochure on the club that can be found here:
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=coo1.ark:/13960/t4pk0xz4m&view=1up&seq=1# (https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=coo1.ark:/13960/t4pk0xz4m&view=1up&seq=1#)

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ben Hollerbach on December 07, 2020, 10:18:32 AM
Candler Park Golf Course; this from the May 5, 1983 edition of the Atlanta Constitution.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/CandlerPark_The_Atlanta_Constitution_Thu__May_5__1983_.jpg)


That is fascinating, Candler Park was build in the late 20's, so this must be a proposed redesign of the original course, and a substantial one at that. Not a single original hole would have been retained. Do you have a link to the corresponding article?


Here is the original routing and topo from 1928:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pX7RNqwRf-8uVwPW-yM0Q-TCTE1cvMubpZ7zul5PwimCqlEs9SZWM-PtwiGA88X0TUBIVau07IxNf_qvgapu8fmyzEiicmo2YCo1FnzzEbuRMuWRJeNd8sFj12BBIcOJcEFx1-g1l0k=w2400)



Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Ben Hollerbach on December 07, 2020, 10:27:29 AM

1923 proposed routing for Candler Park in Atlanta

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/CoG1ZjBj_XoXAhjPoamF-8cnxZGohrOtMVUk85hMd9tw5ZR3qqRd-v42-KJ6xrhzAVMNdNZas-kyX35aPv5NIdnk_q4i2R1yfFrzbp2FCNXyca2AkOkvVeLrYZNUbdSGe5ioNJDUrzo=w2400)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 07, 2020, 10:34:37 AM
Candler Park Golf Course; this from the May 5, 1983 edition of the Atlanta Constitution.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/CandlerPark_The_Atlanta_Constitution_Thu__May_5__1983_.jpg)


That is fascinating, Candler Park was build in the late 20's, so this must be a proposed redesign of the original course, and a substantial one at that. Not a single original hole would have been retained. Do you have a link to the corresponding article?


Here is the original routing and topo from 1928:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pX7RNqwRf-8uVwPW-yM0Q-TCTE1cvMubpZ7zul5PwimCqlEs9SZWM-PtwiGA88X0TUBIVau07IxNf_qvgapu8fmyzEiicmo2YCo1FnzzEbuRMuWRJeNd8sFj12BBIcOJcEFx1-g1l0k=w2400)

Here is the entire article:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/The_Atlanta_Constitution_Thu__May_5__1983_p1.jpg)

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/The_Atlanta_Constitution_Thu__May_5__1983_p2.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on December 07, 2020, 10:36:30 AM
This is an interesting artist’s rendition of what the early St. Andrews (NY) courses and surrounding area looked like.  This map was in a book titled “Back Then” published in 1990.  I’m not sure of the original date or source, but many of the photographs in the book are from the Library of Congress or NY Times.


(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ag323/bretjlawrence/001(3).PNG) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/bretjlawrence/a/a262d2bd-f3be-467b-a9cd-2816e5d7d000/p/642c8b7f-e94f-4aa9-80bc-14fa871f2972)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 07, 2020, 12:58:56 PM
This is Braun's Deer Run GC; this from the July 17, 1964 edition of the Manitowoc Times Herald.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/BraunsDeerRun_Manitowoc_Herald_Times_Fri__Jul_17__1964_.jpg)
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Post by: Joe Bausch on December 07, 2020, 01:17:45 PM
This is the now NLE Lake Shore Municipal GC in Oshkosh; this from the November 17, 1965 edition of The Oshkosh Northwestern.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/LakeShore_The_Oshkosh_Northwestern_Wed__Nov_17__1965_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 07, 2020, 01:36:06 PM
This is Drugan's Castle Mound, I think now having 18 holes; this from the June 10, 1970 edition of The LaCrosse Tribune.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/DrugansCastleMound_The_La_Crosse_Tribune_Wed__Jun_10__1970_.jpg)
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Post by: Joe Bausch on December 07, 2020, 01:48:16 PM
Jacaranda Golf Club; this from the August 28, 1970 edition of The Miami News.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Jacaranda_The_Miami_News_Fri__Aug_28__1970_.jpg)
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Post by: Joe Bausch on December 07, 2020, 02:18:42 PM
Crestwicke CC; this from the August 13, 1967 edition of The Pantagraph.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/CrestwickeCC_The_Pantagraph_Sun__Aug_13__1967_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 07, 2020, 02:35:11 PM
This is McCann Memorial GC; this from the August 24, 2969 edition of the Poughkeepsie Journal.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/McCannMemorial_Poughkeepsie_Journal_Sun__Aug_24__1969_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 07, 2020, 02:59:07 PM
I believe this is Grandview CC; this from the May 17, 1969 edition of The Raleigh Register.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/GrandviewCC_Beckley_Post_Herald_The_Raleigh_Register_Sat__May_17__1969_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 07, 2020, 03:15:05 PM
This is the H. Smith Richardson GC; from the January 14, 1970 edition of The Bridgeport Post.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/HSmithRichardsonGC_The_Bridgeport_Post_Wed__Jan_14__1970_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 07, 2020, 03:37:50 PM
Apple Creek CC; this from the June 28, 1974 edition of The Bismarck Tribune.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/AppleCreek_The_Bismarck_Tribune_Fri__Jun_28__1974_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 07, 2020, 03:46:01 PM
This is Turtle Creek Golf Club; from the August 11, 1974 issue of the Florida Today.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/TurtleCreek_Florida_Today_Sun__Aug_11__1974_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 07, 2020, 04:04:56 PM
This is San Saba River, now an 18-hole course; this from the August 24,1972 edition of The San Saba News and Star.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/SanSabaRiver_The_San_Saba_News_and_Star_Thu__Aug_24__1972_.jpg)
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Post by: Joe Bausch on December 07, 2020, 04:42:55 PM
Hermitage; from the April 28, 1991 edition of The Tennessean.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Hermitage_The_Tennessean_Sun__Apr_28__1991_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 07, 2020, 04:47:05 PM
Miami Shores; from the July 14, 1991 edition of The Miami Herald.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/MIamiShores_The_Miami_Herald_Sun__Jul_14__1991_.jpg)
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Post by: Matthew Petersen on December 07, 2020, 04:50:27 PM
I don't this this Painted Desert CC (Winslow, AZ) exists anymore; this from the March 26, 1959 edition of the Arizona Daily Sun.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/PaintedDesertCC_Arizona_Daily_Sun_Thu__Mar_26__1959_.jpg)


It certainly doesn't, there are no courses in Winslow (but you can stand on the corner).


Based on the map I think I found the area where the course used to be however.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 07, 2020, 04:53:22 PM
Highlands GC; from the August 13, 1991 edition of The Lincoln Star.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Highlands_The_Lincoln_Star_Tue__Aug_13__1991_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on December 07, 2020, 06:19:05 PM
Miami Shores; from the July 14, 1991 edition of The Miami Herald.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/MIamiShores_The_Miami_Herald_Sun__Jul_14__1991_.jpg)

Joe Bausch,

You'll be pleased to know that those revisions at Miami Shores were done by Chuck Hart and Robbie Haas.   Other than those two, I may be the only one to ever know that.   Now, you do, as well.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 07, 2020, 07:05:59 PM
Miami Shores; from the July 14, 1991 edition of The Miami Herald.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/MIamiShores_The_Miami_Herald_Sun__Jul_14__1991_.jpg)

Joe Bausch,

You'll be pleased to know that those revisions at Miami Shores were done by Chuck Hart and Robbie Haas.   Other than those two, I may be the only one to ever know that.   Now, you do, as well.


Hart and Haas?  Really.  I listened to a couple of their top hits on KTEL records.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on December 07, 2020, 07:39:37 PM
Joe,


The "rarities" 45-rpm bonus extras are worth the 32 cents.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on December 08, 2020, 12:10:28 AM
I believe this is the current Hunter Golf Club; this from the October 21, 1931 edition of the Meriden Daily Journal.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/HunterGolfClub_The_Meriden_Daily_Journal_Wed__Oct_21__1931_.jpg)


An updated plan for the same course.


April 7, 1932 Meriden Daily Journal -


(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/cc435/snilsen7/Meriden_Municipal_Meriden_Daily_Journal_April_7_1932.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/snilsen7/a/acf16c8f-790e-4e37-bce1-74b1fd7e6a8b/p/48e1f807-89c5-42fe-a547-099f0625b6ee)


And a plan of the original 9 hole course. 


Aug. 28, 1929 Meriden Daily Record -


(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/cc435/snilsen7/Hunter_Memorial_Plan_Meriden_Daily_Record_Aug._28_1929.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/snilsen7/a/acf16c8f-790e-4e37-bce1-74b1fd7e6a8b/p/2723c6be-17a7-4b5f-be4b-287daf7ab01e)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 08, 2020, 12:02:54 PM
Waveland GC; from the November 26, 1924 edition of the Des Moines Tribune.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Waveland_Des_Moines_Tribune_Wed__Nov_26__1924_.jpg)
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Post by: Joe Bausch on December 08, 2020, 12:06:31 PM
Interlachen CC; this from the July 3, 1930 edition of the Des Moines Tribune.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Interlachen_Des_Moines_Tribune_Thu__Jul_3__1930_.jpg)
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Post by: Joe Bausch on December 08, 2020, 12:09:10 PM
University of Idaho GC; from the October 20, 1935 edition of The Spokesman Review.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/UIdahoGC_The_Spokesman_Review_Sun__Oct_20__1935_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 08, 2020, 02:43:09 PM
Park Hills Golf Course (not sure if this is the East or West course); from the September 2, 1955 edition the Freeport Journal Standard.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/ParkHillsGC_Freeport_Journal_Standard_Fri__Sep_2__1955_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 08, 2020, 02:54:46 PM
Four Seasons CC; this from the May 13, 1962 edition of the St. Louis Post Dispatch.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/FourSeasons_St__Louis_Post_Dispatch_Sun__May_13__1962_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 08, 2020, 03:27:16 PM
Does this golf course near St. Louis still exist?

Instant Golf Course; this from the November 6, 1966 edition of the St. Louis Post Dispatch.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Instant_St__Louis_Post_Dispatch_Sun__Nov_6__1966_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 10, 2020, 04:42:14 PM
Decatur Country Club (in Alabama); this from the March 24, 1958 edition of The Decatur Daily.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/DecaturCC_The_Decatur_Daily_Mon__Mar_24__1958_.jpg)
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Post by: Joe Bausch on December 10, 2020, 04:46:49 PM
Meadowbrook CC; from the July 20, 1958 edition of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/MeadowbrookCC_St__Louis_Post_Dispatch_Sun__Jul_20__1958_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 10, 2020, 04:50:43 PM
Congressional; this from the June 14, 1964 edition of the News Press.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Congressional_News_Press_Sun__Jun_14__1964_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 10, 2020, 05:01:32 PM
The Country Club; this from the June 9, 1963 edition of The Corpus Christi Caller Times.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/TheCountryClub_The_Corpus_Christi_Caller_Times_Sun__Jun_9__1963_.jpg)
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Post by: Joe Bausch on December 10, 2020, 05:08:13 PM
Miami Valley; from the July 19, 1957 edition of The Times Recorder.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/MiamiValley_The_Times_Recorder_Fri__Jul_19__1957_.jpg)
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Post by: Joe Bausch on December 10, 2020, 05:15:58 PM
Baltimore CC - Five Farms East Course; this from the September 23, 1928 edition of The Baltimore Sun.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/BCC_East_The_Baltimore_Sun_Sun__Sep_23__1928_.jpg)
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Post by: Joe Bausch on December 10, 2020, 05:19:52 PM
Etowah Lodge; this from the February 21, 1965 edition of the Asheville Citizens Times.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/EtowahLodge_Asheville_Citizen_Times_Sun__Feb_21__1965_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 10, 2020, 05:23:17 PM
The Encino and Balboa golf courses; this from the October 11, 1954 edition of The Valley Times.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/EncinoBalboa_The_Valley_Times_Mon__Oct_11__1954_.jpg)
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Post by: Joe Bausch on December 10, 2020, 05:25:50 PM
Atlanta Athletic Club; this from the June 17, 1976 edition of the Public Opinion.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/AtlantaAC_Public_Opinion_Thu__Jun_17__1976_.jpg)
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Post by: Joe Bausch on December 10, 2020, 05:28:59 PM
Meadia Heights; this from the April 10, 1960 edition of The Sunday News.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/MeadiaHeights_Sunday_News_Sun__Apr_10__1960_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 10, 2020, 05:31:56 PM
I don't think this course was ever built in Alexandria, LA; this from the June 22, 1983 edition of The Town Talk.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/AlexandriaMuni_The_Town_Talk_Wed__Jun_22__1983_.jpg)
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Post by: Joe Bausch on December 10, 2020, 05:36:50 PM
Winged Foot; this from the August 14, 1997 edition of The Journal News.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/WingedFootWest_The_Journal_News_Thu__Aug_14__1997_.jpg)
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Post by: Joe Bausch on December 10, 2020, 05:39:56 PM
Manito G&CC; this from the April 1, 1917 edition of The Spokesman Review.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Manito_The_Spokesman_Review_Sun__Apr_1__1917_.jpg)
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Post by: Joe Bausch on December 10, 2020, 05:42:32 PM
Baltusrol Lower; this from the June 18, 1954 edition of The Tampa Bay Times.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/BaltusrolLower_Tampa_Bay_Times_Fri__Jun_18__1954_.jpg)
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Post by: Joe Bausch on December 10, 2020, 05:45:52 PM
Winged Foot; from the September 7, 1940 edition of The Piqua Daily Call.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/WFWest_The_Piqua_Daily_Call_Sat__Sep_7__1940_.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tommy Williamsen on December 10, 2020, 09:01:08 PM
Joe I am not seeing anything. I am misunderstanding what you are posting?

Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 11, 2020, 09:16:40 AM
Joe I am not seeing anything. I am misunderstanding what you are posting?

Tommy, I've heard of a couple of others not able to see these recent articles.  Those people have found using a different computer and/or different browser solved this mystery.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Tommy Williamsen on December 11, 2020, 09:33:38 AM
Joe I am not seeing anything. I am misunderstanding what you are posting?

Tommy, I've heard of a couple of others not able to see these recent articles.  Those people have found using a different computer and/or different browser solved this mystery.


Wow, that is fascinating. When I used Firefox instead of Chrome it worked.
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 21, 2020, 11:52:24 AM
Pebble Beach; from the June 18, 1992 edition of the Press Republican.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/PebbleBeach_June18_1992_PressRepublican.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 21, 2020, 12:01:17 PM
Maple Ridge (I'm not sure this course was ever built); from the December 19, 2001 edition of the Granville Sentinel.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/MapleRidge_GranvilleSentinel_December19_2001.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 21, 2020, 12:05:21 PM
Hither Hills State Park (not sure this course was ever built); from the September 26, 1974 edition of the Long Island Traveler.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/HitherHills_LongIslandTraveler_Sept26_1974.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 21, 2020, 12:09:12 PM
Massena CC; this from the February 20, 1958 edition of the Massena Observer.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/MassenaCC_MassenaObserver_Feb20_1958.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 21, 2020, 12:14:15 PM
Sunken Meadow; this from the May 7, 1964 edition of the Islip Bulletin.

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/SunkenMeadow_May7_1964_IslipBulletin.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 28, 2020, 12:39:36 PM
I think this is the current Eagle Vale; from the December 26, 1984 edition of the Herald-Mail:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/EagleVale_December26_1984_HeraldMail.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 28, 2020, 12:45:53 PM
I'm not sure this plan was ever implemented for the St. Lawerence State Park (looking for guidance for GCA'ers!); this from the March 25, 1970 edition of the Ogdensburg Journal:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/StLawrenceStatePark_March25_1970_OgdensburgJournal.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on December 28, 2020, 12:50:27 PM
This was the Skyridge GC, later to become The Ridge Golf Club, which I think no longer is in business; from the May 19, 1966 edition of the DeWitt News Times:

(http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/maps/Skyridge_May19_1966_DeWittNewsTimes.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 10, 2021, 10:12:25 AM
Riverside GC, Fresno, CA


(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/cc435/snilsen7/San_Joaquin_River_-_Fresno_Bee_Sept._18,_1938_(1).jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/snilsen7/a/acf16c8f-790e-4e37-bce1-74b1fd7e6a8b/p/e4683d9d-a9b1-4bdd-ad48-75a4f3ba0073)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: MCirba on February 10, 2021, 10:37:13 AM
From an early 1970s placemat, I believe this is the original Stiles/Van Kleek plan for Brigantine Golf Club in NJ, circa 1925, which opened in 1927.   It was one of the first planned golf course communities integrating golf with housing in the northeast, I'm led to believe.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50929673097_c216cd25df_b.jpg)
Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 21, 2021, 10:01:57 AM
Glenwood Municipal GC n/k/a Theodore Wirth Golf Course, Minneapolis, MN


April 20, 1919 Star Tribune -



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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Sven Nilsen on February 21, 2021, 10:11:41 AM
Golden Valley GC, Minneapolis, MN


Feb. 10, 1918 Star Tribune -



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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on June 01, 2021, 08:20:34 PM

From Harper's Official Golf Guide -1900. Two of the three courses managed by the White Mountain Golf Club.

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Joe Bausch on June 04, 2021, 03:18:18 PM
I'm not sure this plan (by RTJ) ever got on the ground.  This from the May 17, 1962 edition of The News (Franklin Lakes, NJ):

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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on June 14, 2021, 10:11:12 PM
A few Langford & Moreau layouts from The Architectural Forum., March 1925:


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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on June 14, 2021, 10:16:23 PM
Early Misquamicut Golf Club layout:


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Early information on the Misquamicut Club:
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Title: Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
Post by: Bret Lawrence on June 14, 2021, 10:38:08 PM
A few layouts published in The National Greenkeeper:


Brae Burn-
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