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This is great stuff. Joe's pictures from the site look remarkably like a lot of the land down here in Argentina. (The fact that this course is being built in the U.S., rather than Argentina -- with its abundance of land that would be very similar to the original site -- certainly says something about the respective countries.) Two questions:1. David E: Where exactly in Mar del Plata is the site of the original estate? I get down there once in a while and wouldn't mind checking it out.2. Has anyone played the GC of Uruguay recently? Is it "excellent," as Tom Dunne's article suggests.
Tony, I was hoping you bumped this because there is news about the project getting underway. I hope this is the case!
Quote from: Bill_McBride on December 19, 2009, 01:26:40 PMTony, I was hoping you bumped this because there is news about the project getting underway. I hope this is the case!Nothing going as of now, although I know that David Edel is still living on the site in Texas, working towards the goal of re-igniting the project during this difficult economic time. I hope he'll chime in if anything substantial is moving forward.Joe
Another issue has a lot to do with education. Members of this site are fully aware of the significance of an authentic Mackenzie plan that was never developed, but most people have little knowledge of the Good Doctor, only recognizing the fame of some of his designs. It takes time to get people to understand who Mackenzie was and the potential value of this project.
Right now I have the opportunity to either dilute the partnership or buy them out for the value of the land. So at this point I am working hard to find real solutions to make this happen. The who and the how have yet to be determined, so any advice would be greatly appreciated.
I drove around the outskirts of the site about a month ago (with Tom Dunne guiding me via phone) and it looks like it could be a really neat site.My biggest question is how well the actual routing translates from the orginal site to the new one.Would a newly discovered Frank Lloyd Wright plan that was never built be just as good no matter where it is built? I have no idea??The story sure is cool, but it comes down to what the new routing looks like on the ground in Texas and how that marries back to the orginal course/idea/routing My two cents...
No the golfing public doesn't know what a treasure this is. When I talk to people who've been playing golf for the entire life, I am always surprise that they have no idea who an architect of a particular course is...even if it is their home course. I was playing a course just last month and asked...so who designed this course? Answer...I don't know some old dead guy. No kidding!!Is it as significant as finding a Picasso? I think it is. But that is just me. This may not be the time or place to say this...but I will anyway. I think the tv broadcasts need to do a better job of educating their viewers about golf, its history, and its courses/architects. Today, you get a 5 second overview of the course and its history. But I've been watching the repeats of the Wonderful World of Golf...they do a whole skit on the course, the architect, etc. Cool stuff.Anyway...sorry for the tangent...but I think they tie in nicely.
Chip raised the question / made the comparison about a Frank Lloyd Wright plan being build somewhere other than originally intended. Got me thinking about some FLW projects in Buffalo, NY that I'd read about while doing research in grad school. Two projects have been built there recently from Wright plans and another is supposedly close to fruition. All built decades after their original design and at least one is far from its intended location. Here's a link but unfortunately not all of the source links work. Several were very informative regarding background and issues surrounding the projects. (last 3 projects on the page - mausoleum, boat house and filling station)http://www.wrightnowinbuffalo.com/whattodo/wright_legacy.asp#mausoleum With some similarities to the El Boqueron project, study of these projects may be of value regarding the education, fundraising and marketing efforts that were undertaken to get them up and off the ground. I know that the architecture, historical, and tourism groups in Buffalo have done quite a bit to promote and revive the city's architectural heritage - particularly as it relates to the turn-of-the-century architects who designed buildings there (even managed to get an article in USA Today recently). Maybe there are opportunities to promote this project within the context of the rich history of Texas / Austin golf and the high regard of Mackenzie courses in other parts of the country/world. It could be viewed as a coveted, but currently missing, feather in the state's golfing cap. Granted, probably a lot more difficult to sell Mackenzie than Wright... but have to start somewhere.-Daryn