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Bob:The revelation that Crump and his Pine Valley buddies were so high on Fowler and his architecture was total news to me and is a whole lot of the value of these articles and info Joe Bausch is coming up with via The Inquirer.This stuff was clearly not being made up by some newspaper reporter. Obviously Verdant Green (whoever that really was) had been there at Pine Valley to talk with these guys and to see Fowler's plans under glass and all that.I sure don't want to get into some big dispute again about Colt's role in all this but it sure isn't lost on me that one of these Verdant Green Inquirer articles in Jan 1914 also mentioned that Colt's major contribution to PV was the unraveling of the 5th hole and making it the great hole it is. On the other hand, I think few appreciate how much something like that essentially made the "jigsaw" puzzle effect of much of the rest of the course just fall into place because of that 5th hole alteration of Colt's. For that reason even if one hole it's more significant than it might at first seem and it appears Crump and his buddies felt that way too from what they apparently said to Verdant Green about Colt and the 5th hole.Again, Verdant Green was clearly speaking directly to Crump and his buddies and it appears they're the ones who said that too!I don't think this is any dissing or short-changing the contribution of Harry Colt to PV's design as Paul and Tom MacWood seemed to think a few years ago. I think this is the real deal from both close and contemporaneous reporting from someone who was right there to see it and hear it from the horse's mouth.One would have been led to believe by Paul or Tom MacWood that just mentioning that Colt's primary contribution to PV was the 5th hole was something some at PV came up with years later to glorify Crump at Colt's expense but that description was offered in Jan 1914 when Crump was very much there and alive and with four more years to go before he died suddenly.But again, this new news about Crump and his buddies feelings about Fowler and his architecture does not surprise me at all because for years I've suspected it was healthland architecture that Crump was really interested in and Fowler was certainly considered to be the best or one of the best of them at that point in 1914.