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Richard,Again nice work here. You end with, this is a birdie hole. Do you believe that to be the case for the pros at 200 yds or 246 yds? I can't imagine it being an easy birdie but it might depend on wind and pin placement of course. The green contours are fairly gentle and these guys are pretty decent putters so we shall see.I guess you just mean, it's an easier birdie hole than what follows. I'm thinking they will play it all the way back half the time. Since they like to keep scoring at US Opens as close to par as possible.
"Perhaps it is about time we pass the title of “Marquis de Sod” to Mike Davis. He felt that hitting a downhill 200 yard shot to a tiny, rock hard green was not enough of a challenge for US Open and added a tee 246 yards away from the green (white tee above). The green is not deep enough to hold a shot hit by a long iron from that distance, which means it will only be used if there is a substantive headwind, at which point you will probably need to hit a 3 wood to reach the green. I mean, wow…"Perhaps I've misinterpreted, but as someone who these days regularly has to hit driver or fairway metals or hybrids or the longest long-irons as tee shots on par-3's I find it difficult to concur with the above sentiment. What does the advert say - "These guys are good!". They're playing for an Open, for posterity and for serious cash. Let them play a toughy and find a way to make a decent score. There's always a way. (eg Billy Casper 1959 Winged Foot). By the way, is that a railway track behind the green? If so is it a busy line or just occasional usage and is it disruptive noise or visually when playing the course?Interesting threads Richard so thanks for posting them, especially in such detail. You've put in a lot of work. Well done.atb
I am not expecting USGA to use the 120 yard tee unless the wind is really blowing. I believe the hole will vary from 170 to 250. You can create a ~200 yard tee by using the back tee box of the 4th hole (you can see it on the bottom right corner of the overhead view above).If the green is as firm as I believe it will be, practically any ball that lands on the green will bounce through it from 250 yards. I don't think that is what USGA wants. We may see it one day, but if they do, they should expect players' blowback.