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Iíve gotta say that listening to three golf course architects lament than no one is trying anything different is weird. Why donít you each go and do something different???Perhaps the answer is that you know itís harder to actually BE original than just to demand it? I feel lucky when we get to that level on even a couple of holes on a new project.There have certainly been a bunch of attempts at ďmaximalismĒ in recent years but it doesnít seem that anyone has quite gotten it down yet - it may be big and complicated and wow, but theyíre still playing safe by mimicking the aesthetic of whatís currently in vogue. Harbour Town would not be what it was if Mr Dye had made it 7200 yards.Iím actually trying to do different things on many of my new projects, but my style is familiar enough that most of it is inevitably lumped together on the basis of ďthe lookĒ. Jack Nicklaus really thought that was the main difference between his work and ours! The level of worthwhile critique of new golf courses is possibly even lower than the level of original design.
You could make a pretty good argument that the handful of Uber successful architects are the ones who taught the writers about golf architecture, over the course of decades of interviews. And itís certainly going to take any of these younger architects a lot of years to build up a broad network like that.
And if weíre just talking about the last top 100 list, or the next one, thatís kind of a high bar youíre setting; you shouldnít be too surprised if there arenít many designers who can clear it.
- Seaton Carew. Maybe it's because I hadn't done much research on the course ahead of time, but it felt so fresh and untouched. I absolutely adored some of the holes that were benched into the ridge that separated much of the front from the back.- Mulranny. It was quite spiritual walking that course at 6.30am with the Head Greenskeeper/Captain. What a privilege to see that course. What I loved is that the greens seemed to be original takes on old ideas. Ie - the first has a massive two tier green, but not in the traditional way you always see - ie, one flat portion, and another, similar flat portion with a drop between them. Have a look at the photos below and you'll see how wonderfully wacky the course is.- Cabot Highlands (The new course!) - Since TD has chimed in here, and won't take credit, I'll say that I think some of the ideas they have up there are very fresh for a new course. I won't give away the secrets, but the criss-crossing start, and the greensite at the 5th were just a few of the holes that had me saying 'I've never seen that before!'.
Quote from: John Blain on October 29, 2023, 01:01:47 PMIan-What RTJ, Sr. courses did you recently check out?ThanksMidvale Country ClubGreen LakesDurrand Eastman
Quote from: Tom_Doak on October 29, 2023, 02:27:00 PMAnd if weíre just talking about the last top 100 list, or the next one, thatís kind of a high bar youíre setting; you shouldnít be too surprised if there arenít many designers who can clear it.We're not.Tom,I feel like you took this personally as some sort of a knock on you. Not the intention.It's not about any of the great designers from this movement.I'm not sure why I'm not allowed to want something else from golf architecture.I like to explore different philosophies and approaches.I'm back to exploring. It's what that blog from a long time ago was all about.