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Brian_Ewen

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Dunhill
« on: October 09, 2023, 03:25:09 AM »
Play goes ahead, across the three courses today, as planned.

In case anyone is like me, and loves Monday golf tournaments.  :)

https://www.europeantour.com/dpworld-tour/alfred-dunhill-links-championship-2023/leaderboard?round=2

Brian_Ewen

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Re: Dunhill
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2023, 04:02:46 AM »
Amazing that Carnoustie is playable.


Kevin Pallier

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Re: Dunhill
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2023, 05:08:53 AM »
Wow - for a links course to be under water like that there must have been some rain

David Kelly

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Re: Dunhill
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2023, 12:11:16 PM »
Wow - for a links course to be under water like that there must have been some rain
I think Carnoustie might have some flooding issues with Barry Burn on occasion.  I was there once and Carnoustie looked exactly like that picture and we had to cancel and play a dry Panmure with every other course in the area open for business as usual.
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David_Tepper

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Re: Dunhill
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2023, 03:08:54 PM »
"I think Carnoustie might have some flooding issues with Barry Burn on occasion."

I have seen the same type of flooding on the holes that cross the burn on the Struie course at Dornoch. Usually it occurs at high tide during or after a heavy rainfall. The water from the burn that would normally drain into the ocean is pushed back up the burn by the incoming high tide.

Kevin Pallier

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Re: Dunhill
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2023, 08:28:42 PM »
Thanks Davidx2


Interested as do any other well renowned links course suffer the same fate? TOC for example with Swilcurn burn?

David_Tepper

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Re: Dunhill
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2023, 08:37:51 PM »
Here is a video of the shocking flood on the Struie course from the burn overflowing in 2006:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uG07LRaX8g


Video of flooding around the Swilcan Bridge at TOC from 2015:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piRSAGb2B-E


The good news is that, once the rain stops and the tide goes out, these courses will drain pretty quickly.
« Last Edit: October 10, 2023, 08:42:13 PM by David_Tepper »

Ken Moum

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Re: Dunhill
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2023, 12:40:11 PM »
"I think Carnoustie might have some flooding issues with Barry Burn on occasion."

I have seen the same type of flooding on the holes that cross the burn on the Struie course at Dornoch. Usually it occurs at high tide during or after a heavy rainfall. The water from the burn that would normally drain into the ocean is pushed back up the burn by the incoming high tide.


Tain has a similar problem on 16 and 17 when the tide is in, and it rains. The last time we played, the water carry on 16 was about 50 yards longer than the second time.  Seventeen wasn't flooded, but the burn was at the top of its bank.
Over time, the guy in the ideal position derives an advantage, and delivering him further  advantage is not worth making the rest of the players suffer at the expense of fun, variety, and ultimately cost -- Jeff Warne, 12-08-2010

Kevin Pallier

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Re: Dunhill
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2023, 12:20:11 AM »
David


Thanks for that here's one I found at North Berwick someone swimming on the 9th!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI7dgDFAg6s




David_Tepper

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Re: Dunhill
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2023, 09:21:20 AM »
St. Andrews under water at the 1960 Open:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TLOqRn_IaE

It is remarkable the course was playable the next day.

Thomas Dai

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Re: Dunhill
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2023, 01:21:49 PM »
Not an entirely unusual problem particularly at equinox time. A higher than normal incoming tide blocking greater than usual rainfall from exiting the land via the stream/burn. Powerful thing nature and if unlucky and/or unprepared sandy features etc wash away quickly.
Atb

Sean_A

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Re: Dunhill
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2023, 03:28:30 AM »
Not an entirely unusual problem particularly at equinox time. A higher than normal incoming tide blocking greater than usual rainfall from exiting the land via the stream/burn. Powerful thing nature and if unlucky and/or unprepared sandy features etc wash away quickly.
Atb

I don't worry much about burn flooding due to tides and unusual rain fall. It's when the sea breaks the natural barrier or eats away at the base of the course that causes me worry.

Ciao
New plays planned for 2024: Ashridge, Kennemer, de Pan, Blackmoor, Eindhoven, Hilversumche, Royal Ostend & Alnmouth

Brian_Ewen

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Re: Dunhill
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2023, 11:05:23 AM »
STILL raining  :(



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