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Hollywood Country Club - Hollywood, CA 1919, 18 holes and added 9 holes in 1921Watson definitely added 9 holes to the project in 1921, and reworked the existing 9 holes at that time. I have not seen anything linking Watson to the initial work in 1919, although reports indicated the involvement of a number of professionals and architects.
William Watson•Hollywood Country Club (Now houses and Harvard-Westlake Private School)
Hollywood CC Oct. 3, 1919 Los Angeles Evening Citizen News -
Max Behr•Westwood Hills Pay As You Play Golf Course (18 holes of Max Behr that is now the Nakatomi Bank Building, (from the movie Die Hard) Beverly Hills High School, Creative Artists Agency's "Death Star" (name for the building) etc. in Century City.)
North of Rancho was Westwood Pay-As-You-Play Golf Course which then became Westwood Hills. (Max Behr)
William Watson•Clover Field Golf Course (18 holes located on what is now houses and Santa Monica Airport)
Clover Field Golf Course - Santa Monica, CA 1923 (First laid out by Watson, fully opened in 1928 and George Merritt then was credited). Name changed to Santa Monica GC.I have not seen anything that links Watson to the project.Here are the two articles discussing Merritt's involvement.April 9, 1927 Los Angeles Times -July 24, 1927 Los Angeles Times -
East Bay CC - Oakland, CA 1923April 9, 1926 Berkeley Daily Gazette -
I help out The Alister Mackenzie Society with research and the whole Redlands involvement by Mackenzie has some question marks against it in our eyes. Here is what we have (which isn't much). Sean Tully of our little research group may care to pipe in. DSH is Doak Scott Haddock "The Life and Work of Dr Alister Mackenzie" while C&W is Cornish and Whitten "The Architects of Golf". Anyone who might have some actual documentary evidence one way or another would be welcome to post it.Listed in DSH as a 1930 revision with Robert Hunter. Hawtree and C&W list as a revision with no date. Club website: "On February 24, 1926, an additional 55 acres of land was purchased from H.H. Ford and Isaac Ford. The project of preparing the new greens, fairways and bunkers was completed under the prime direction of Club member Raymond Hornby with the counsel of Alister Mackenzie of Leeds, England. Mr. Mackenzie had previously aided in the design for such famous courses as Cypress Point, Pasatiempo in Santa Cruz and the Valley Club in Santa Barbara. There were 32 sand traps on the first 9 holes and 42 on the back 9. The full 18-hole course was opened for play on November 26, 1927; 6130 yards in length, par 70." Opening date inconsistent with date in DSH. Question marks on this.
I have consulted with Redlands for the past 7 years or so. I did a Long Range Plan for the club and they had a water issue, due to receiving potable water at pressure from the city for many years but is now on a non-potable supply that is not at pressure, so we had to develop a pond to hold the water and pump from that. The result of that was an impact to holes 14-16 (old routing) and we altered the routing numbering when building the pond to the current sequence.As to the design credit, there was a 9-hole course going back prior to 1900 -- not sure of the designer. Norman MacBeth was hired for the redesign in the mid-20's. As far as I can tell, MacKenzie and MacBeth knew each other from England and MacKenzie was going through LA on his way to Australia, wrote his friend about his travel plans (I have no evidence of this, but speculating as to the relationship and friendliness those days), and Norman told him about his project in Redlands. I believe Alister was on the site for a couple days and critiqued Norman's plans. The course reflects some of Alister's ideas, but they are not executed very well (for instance, the boomerang green on #17 doesn't allow you to putt around the corner) so I think Alister gave some advice to Norman but it is really MacBeth's design.
P-Thanks for posting your photos of Redlands I have not been there yet and did not expect all of that movement, so I got a kick out of looking at the pics. I have done some limited research on the course trying to see where the credit for the course lies and if MacKenzie was involved in any way. Through mostly internet research, I have not come across any mention of AM's involvement. When we first started looking a little deeper into AM body of work we started with "The Life and Work of Alister MacKenzie" and worked from there. As Mike D. mentioned there is a connection with Macbeth, but there is also another player in the story of the club. In an article from November 6, 1927 the club gives a lot of praise to the work of Raymond Hornby who also happens to be a member. They give him credit for laying out the additional nine holes and also superintending the construction.Would love to see what the course looked like from the late 20's to get a better idea for who had their hands in the remodeling of the course.Tully
1900 Harpers -
At Redlands in Los Angeles MacKenzie and Hunter added 10 new holes and remodelled 8 holes in 1926-27.
At Redlands CC in S. Cal., Norman Macbeth has a marginal one on the 17th (it doesn't shoot balls around as well as it should) -- MacK advised him there to some extent prior to CD.
March 1926 - to southern Cal consulted on Redlands CC (from AM's Cypress Point Club book)
Bill, I think they were two different clubs. California CC in Cheviot Hills changed hands (and names) at least three times, before closing for good in 1951. California CC in Whittier opened in 1956. Shared are name and architect's surname. Hollywood CC / Watson - 1921 NLEI've come across conflicting accounts of Hollywood, although past posts by Tommy N. and Sven are in alignment with the aerials below. But there is a Dean Knuth essay that claims Hollywood was built in 1898, and that Watson "designed the Hollywood Country Club near Studio City, California, shortly after his arrival in Los Angeles, but it was quickly built over by developers." Page 8, essay: https://www.sandiegocountryclub.org/Files/Library/WILLIAMWATSONBIOOCT142020.PDF Quote from: Sven Nilsen on February 18, 2021, 11:40:30 AMHollywood Country Club - Hollywood, CA 1919, 18 holes and added 9 holes in 1921Watson definitely added 9 holes to the project in 1921, and reworked the existing 9 holes at that time. I have not seen anything linking Watson to the initial work in 1919, although reports indicated the involvement of a number of professionals and architects.Quote from: Tommy Naccarato on February 16, 2013, 06:16:39 AMWilliam Watson•Hollywood Country Club (Now houses and Harvard-Westlake Private School)Quote from: Sven Nilsen on November 25, 2020, 03:31:03 PMHollywood CC Oct. 3, 1919 Los Angeles Evening Citizen News - 1927. Orientation is rotated to match with routing. Running N/S is Ventura Blvd. Situated south (east in photo) of Ventura Blvd. on both sides of what is now Coldwater Canyon.
Thanks for posting the aerial of Hollywood CC. I was going to do that later tonight as I’m interested to hear more about the club. The holes in the tight canyon at the top of your picture (east side of course) look very interesting as they almost look crossover like. That’s where I have always heard about the club being, but I’m no expert. I was also interested in the old Encino CC. I’ve found a picture of the clubhouse, but none of the course. I’ll try to post something, but it looks like the course was only 9 holes. Founded in 1924 and bankrupt by 1929, I think.
QuoteSan Gabriel...claims to be the oldest club in Southern California occupying the same land...., but I'm pretty sure that Victoria Club in Riverside makes the same claim. I seem to recall Redlands may be older, but moved at some point. Back when I was in school and Vic was our home course, "1903" was all over a lot of the merchandise.
San Gabriel...claims to be the oldest club in Southern California occupying the same land.