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Ronald Montesano

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Pine Valley Golf Channel Shell's WWOG Thursday 12-22-2022
« on: December 22, 2022, 07:11:14 AM »
Byron Nelson vs. Gene Littler from Pine Valley

8 AM (EST, maybe) on Golf Channel this morning (Thursday the 22nd.)
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Re: Pine Valley Golf Channel Shell's WWOG Thursday 12-22-2022
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2022, 08:41:11 AM »
Will repeat Dec 26 at 8 am.

archie_struthers

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Re: Pine Valley Golf Channel Shell's WWOG Thursday 12-22-2022 New
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2022, 08:55:02 AM »
 8)


Note Gene Littler's caddie  Tommy Elder would become the caddie  master in the upcoming years. He is in his eighties now and probably shot his age at least 1000 times.

Architecturally note how crazy the 10th hole bunkers were, they have become much easier over the years.




p.s.

Legend also has it that they had had Leo Fraser fill in some missing video as one of the players but I have never seen this verified
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Tommy Williamsen

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Re: Pine Valley Golf Channel Shell's WWOG Thursday 12-22-2022
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2022, 12:01:40 PM »
Also, 2:30 AM on Friday. Every time. I hope he plays five better this time. 
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PCCraig

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Re: Pine Valley Golf Channel Shell's WWOG Thursday 12-22-2022
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2022, 12:21:28 PM »
Weren't all of these posted to YouTube at some point?
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Carl Johnson

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Re: Pine Valley Golf Channel Shell's WWOG Thursday 12-22-2022
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2022, 01:38:40 PM »
8)


Note Gene Littler's caddie  would become the caddie  master in the upcoming years. Tommy Elder who had probably shot his age over 1000 times,


Legend also has it that they had had Leo Fraser fill in some missing videos as one of the players but I have never seen this verified


I used to have a tape of this match, but it's probably long gone.  What I recall is that although Littler and Nelson hitting their shots are actual, a lot of the landings had to be recreated by someone else because the camera operator couldn't follow the actual shots.  One youtube version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XdVWUTLhdI

Thomas Dai

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Re: Pine Valley Golf Channel Shell's WWOG Thursday 12-22-2022
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2022, 02:10:38 PM »
Aren’t there supposed to be suspicions as to Littlers playing and scoring of the 5th hole?
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Jeff Schley

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Re: Pine Valley Golf Channel Shell's WWOG Thursday 12-22-2022
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2022, 03:50:31 PM »
Aren’t there supposed to be suspicions as to Littlers playing and scoring of the 5th hole?
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Mike Worth

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Re: Pine Valley Golf Channel Shell's WWOG Thursday 12-22-2022
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2022, 06:35:01 PM »
8)


Note Gene Littler's caddie  would become the caddie  master in the upcoming years. Tommy Elder who had probably shot his age over 1000 times,


Legend also has it that they had had Leo Fraser fill in some missing videos as one of the players but I have never seen this verified


Archie, Jim Fraser confirmed on FB the part about Leo filling in shots not captured in the original video.


I would take Jim’s word at face value as confirmation

Ronald Montesano

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Re: Pine Valley Golf Channel Shell's WWOG Thursday 12-22-2022
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2022, 12:27:15 PM »
Leo was at Atlantic City CC, correct?
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Anthony Gholz

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Re: Pine Valley Golf Channel Shell's WWOG Thursday 12-22-2022
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2022, 02:00:53 PM »
I had forgotten that Gene birdied the last two holes.  Twenty-five years older and retired, Byron shot 74 easily without making much.  And out drove Gene regularly.  I thought the greens looked in good shape, but some of the fairways looked like the poa was dead or dying.  Does NJ have poa?  Shell's original WWofG was must viewing as a kid for me.

David_Tepper

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Re: Pine Valley Golf Channel Shell's WWOG Thursday 12-22-2022
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2022, 02:29:41 PM »
The whole Nelson/Littler episode is on youtube. You can watch it any time you want:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XdVWUTLhdI

Gene Littler vs. George Knudson at Royal Ottawa (1964):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwZxmOQr1M4


Tim_Cronin

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Re: Pine Valley Golf Channel Shell's WWOG Thursday 12-22-2022 New
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2022, 04:18:08 PM »
There's also a bunch more this weekend and week, interspersed with the final rounds from PGA Tour tournaments this year.


Easy to read 7-day schedule: https://www.golfchannel.com/livegolf
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Robert West

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Re: Pine Valley Golf Channel Shell's WWOG Thursday 12-22-2022
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2023, 10:55:41 PM »
I know I'm late to this but I'm just seeing this now for the first time (Catching up on my DVR).

I love how easy it is to see the undulations on the green. The whole broadcast makes terrain seem sweeping and severe. I suppose some of that comes from the lack of crowds, which allows hills and rough areas really stand out.


The illustrations of the holes are beautiful and certainly of a different era.


The announcers whisper and are almost sympathetic to the players, like they are in it with them.


While the course is certainly the star here this is also a great way to watch Nelson (personally my all-time favorite swing in the game).




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