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Thanks Mike. I do hear you in regard to your first post. It would be valuable to know if Barker did any work in the U.S. in 1908 and if so how he came by it. Perhaps, he did some initial work in the NYC area as Travis started to test him out. Hoping Sven might have something and know of other courses where both Barker and Ross worked from 1909 to 1915 when he left the U.S. for good. He had health problems and he moved around a lot after he left Garden City. Before coming to the U.S. in late 1907, Barker was a strong, young amateur golfer in the Yorkshire area. There seemed to be surprise in the local professional community when he landed a professional's job in the United States. And, it was Garden City! It would be good to know how Garden City and/or Travis found him.
Brad Becken on Donald Ross mentions Raritan CC and Chevy Chase CC as H. H. Barker/Donald Ross collaborations. At Raritan, Barker preceded Ross by about a year. I have no record of Barker at Chevy Chase. There are articles discussing Ross and Travis working here at the same time. I haven't seen anything to suggest either course was a collaboration. Golf clubs often found architects by relying upon the golfing magazines or catalogs of the day. I'd venture word of mouth was a stronger source.Started in November 1908, Walter Travisí American Golfer was perhaps the most widely read golf magazine in the U.S. at the start of the Golden Age in the years just before WW1.Golf Magazine and Golfers Magazine started a few years prior to AG, with The Golfer and Outing magazine predating both of those. In addition, Bendelow and Spalding were producing an annual Official Golf Guide that was widely distributed. Travis started putting ads for Barkerís routing services in the magazine and then even more opportunities flooded in. Originally, Barker was the only architect whose services were advertised in American Golfer. This is a little confusing, as it makes it sound like Travis was the impetus for the ads being placed. Are we sure Barker didn't do this himself. And would Travis have let other architects advertise if they'd wanted to? About the only person I can think of that advertised design services before this date was Bendelow (as early as 1900). Next, Travis allowed two architects to advertise in American Golfer: H.H. Barker and Donald Ross. In the beginning, Ross was only allowed to advertise as an instructor, but after several months, Ross was allowed to position himself as a course designer. Allowed seems like a strong word unless there is evidence that indeed Travis only allowed these two men to advertise. Is it more a case of these two being the only kids on the block?At the time, Ross seemed to be best known as a great bunker man but he was also building his reputation as a course designer and constructor. Let's be clear that this is your interpretation of Ross at the time. There are plenty of accounts from the years around 1913 that describe Ross as more than just a bunker man, including as the "preeminent golf architect in America."
By March 1909, H.H. Barker was featured throughout American Golfer as an "expert" in laying out courses.
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