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John Blain

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Tom Weiskopf RIP
« on: August 21, 2022, 10:31:31 AM »
Legendary golfer and respected course architect Tom Weiskopf has passed away. TW was 79 and died of pancreatic cancer. Tom Watson posted Weiskopf's passing on Twitter.


cary lichtenstein

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Re: Tom Weiskopf RIP
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2022, 10:34:03 AM »
Very sad, I was a big fan
Live Jupiter, Fl, was  4 handicap, played top 100 US, top 75 World. Great memories, no longer play, 4 back surgeries. I don't miss a lot of things about golf, life is simpler with out it. I miss my 60 degree wedge shots, don't miss nasty weather, icing, back spasms. Last course I played was Augusta

Matthew Rose

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Re: Tom Weiskopf RIP
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2022, 10:46:40 AM »
Would it be fair to say he made driveable par-fours fashionable?

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Ken Moum

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Re: Tom Weiskopf RIP
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2022, 11:00:29 AM »
Would it be fair to say he made driveable par-fours fashionable?


That might very well be. It would be a decent legacy IMHO.


Although, for me at age 74.9, almost every course has at least one or two disguised as par threes.
Over time, the guy in the ideal position derives an advantage, and delivering him further  advantage is not worth making the rest of the players suffer at the expense of fun, variety, and ultimately cost -- Jeff Warne, 12-08-2010

Steve Sayre

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Jeff Schley

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Re: Tom Weiskopf RIP
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2022, 12:17:45 PM »
RIP to TW. He was a gentlemen and respect him for his honesty of himself. Very talented golfer. Also remember him IIRC being the voice on the 86 Masters with Nicklaus winning down the stretch. He is so linked to JN being from OSU and who could ever measure up to the Golden Bear?  Wonderful career that almost all would be happy and proud of.
"To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice your gifts."
- Steve Prefontaine

Jeff Churchill

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Re: Tom Weiskopf RIP
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2022, 02:56:57 PM »
Fell in love with desert golf playing Troon North
RIP Tom

Eric_Terhorst

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Re: Tom Weiskopf RIP
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2022, 04:24:09 PM »
His course at Forest Dunes in Michigan is one of my favorites anywhere.  It has three of his wonderful short par 4s, design elements borrowed from Scotland in several of the greens, and a variety of interesting strategic challenges.  The course has a terrific routing, playing at some time toward all points of the compass, taking full advantage of the natural beauty of the sandy site.  I liked his course at Cabo del Sol too.


Thanks to Tom Weiskopf for his contributions to the game.





Peter Pallotta

Re: Tom Weiskopf RIP
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2022, 04:25:48 PM »
While few of us can excel in even one discipline, he excelled in three: golf, golf broadcasting, and golf architecture -- all while battling privately demons only he knew about and publicly an addiction to alcohol that many could understand. His ball striking was a thing a beauty and grace, and his work during that 86 Masters holds its own against the best examples of extemporaneous commentary in sports broadcasting history.
Rest in Peace, Tom Weiskopf.

« Last Edit: August 22, 2022, 12:12:08 PM by PPallotta »

Dan Boerger

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Re: Tom Weiskopf RIP
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2022, 07:08:51 PM »
My older brother served in Vietnam with TW.


He (TW and my brother) sent me some first flight aluminum clubs when I was 12 years old.


Later, I met with TW at the DT open in Memphis (mid 80s). My brother had just passed away.


He bought me drinks the rest of the night.


RIP TW

« Last Edit: August 22, 2022, 08:47:52 AM by Dan Boerger »
"Man should practice moderation in all things, including moderation."  Mark Twain

Tommy Williamsen

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Re: Tom Weiskopf RIP
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2022, 12:22:00 AM »
TW had one of the most elegant swings in the history of the game. I loved just watching him hit a golf ball. His golf courses are fun and enjoyable. I know he didn't live up to his own high standards, which is a shame because he excelled. May you rest in God's embrace.
Where there is no love, put love; there you will find love.
St. John of the Cross

"Deep within your soul-space is a magnificent cathedral where you are sweet beyond telling." Rumi

David_Tepper

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Re: Tom Weiskopf RIP
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2022, 01:38:12 AM »

Jim Sherma

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Re: Tom Weiskopf RIP
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2022, 08:45:12 AM »
While reading TW's obituary in the NYTimes there is a quick quote about him praising the location of Torrey Pines. I was wondering if he left behind any in depth writings about GCA.


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/21/sports/golf/tom-weiskopf-dead.html?action=click&module=Well&pgtype=Homepage&section=Obituaries




Tom_Doak

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Re: Tom Weiskopf RIP
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2022, 10:11:21 AM »
I posted a photo on Instagram last night with a small tribute to the original "Terrible Tom".


I met Tom Weiskopf when I was 21 through a mutual friend, and though I never spent a lot of time with him, he always made a bit of time for me.  He was very wary of golf writers because he thought many were looking to burn him [which was true of some], but he trusted me not to do that, and was always happy to give me his thoughts on whatever I was writing about.


He was not afraid to be controversial but always with the integrity of the game in mind -- very similar in that way to Pete Dye -- and that made a real impression on me.  As mentioned above, he was also one of the most eloquent proponents of the drivable par-4 [which Mr. Dye was not], and eventually I came around to agreeing with him there, too.


I wrote something here years ago about how TW was not especially fortunate at finding the best clients for his design work -- just as in his playing career, he often played second fiddle to Jack Nicklaus, working in many of the same markets for clients without such deep pockets.  And of course many of his projects were somewhat compromised by real estate, because his name appealed most to developers who wanted to sell house lots.  Along with Ben Crenshaw, he was the only Tour pro-turned-designer who shared credit equally with his design partner, and that was a good indication of how much he valued the work.


My favorite course by Weiskopf and Morrish was Forest Highlands -- the Instagram story explains why I might have some bias there -- but his own favorite was always Loch Lomond.

David Cronan

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Re: Tom Weiskopf RIP
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2022, 11:24:33 AM »
When I was living in Chicago in the 90s, my best friend and I were guests of the sponsor of a Senior Tour event somewhere in the suburbs (Aurora?). I can only recall two things from that day, and not because of an alcohol-induced fog.


1. Late in the afternoon, we were sitting in the stands behind the 18th green and decided that when the group putting on the 18th finished, we'd head on back to the city. Simon Hobday was a member of that particular threesome. When they finished, we thanked our host and told him we were going to head on out. He told us that his company (Ameritech?) was hosting a party at the hotel where most of the players were staying, and that we should stop by as it was on our way home. Our host had been kind enough to give us parking passes that were located in the parking lot of the clubhouse, so within a few minutes, we were in our car and heading the the hotel, which was maybe 10 minutes away. When we walked into the room (hotel bar) where the party was being held, the first thing we noticed was a ruddy looking guy sitting at the bar, with a full schooner of beer resting on his head, all while he was drinking a beer, without spilling a drop from either glass.


It was Simon Hobday. I'm still amazed that in the time it took us to thank our host, walk to our car and drive to the hotel, he finished up his round, signed his scorecard, switched shoes and beat us to the party. Stunning.


2. Earlier in the day, when we first arrived at the course, I dragged my buddy to the range to watch some of the players warm up. As we were walking down the range, it sounded like one of the players either shanked or thinned a shot. It was Tom Weiskopf. Curiosity got the best of me as I wanted to see how pros recover from a case of the shanks. After maybe a minute, he hit the most beautiful, towering 3 iron I'd ever seen. And it sounded identical to the shot he'd just hit. It sounded like "click". Long story a bit longer, I ended up watching him hit balls for about a 30 minutes and every, I mean EVERY shot looked perfect to my eye and the irons all had that "click" sound.


Both of these were truly impressive feats.

David_Tepper

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Re: Tom Weiskopf RIP
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2022, 03:22:10 PM »
The official film of TW winning the 1973 Open at Troon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCB5NjjrptQ
 

Jason Topp

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Re: Tom Weiskopf RIP
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2022, 10:13:31 AM »
The first time I played Troon North in the 80ís I loved it.  It was the first turf limited desert course I had played that felt like a golf course rather than an experience of bumping the ball from island to island to keep the ball in play.  Most desert courses built thereafter followed suit to the point that when I returned a few years ago Troon North seemed tight.  It seemed to me that Troon North was a game changer but do not recall reading anything confirming that impression.   

Jason Hines

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Re: Tom Weiskopf RIP
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2022, 01:55:27 PM »
#14 at my home club - Shadow Glen in Olathe, KS. and forgive me this is not the best photo of the hole.  Par 4 that plays 285 yards from the tips.  It's real name is "Wild Turkey", we have always called it "College Girlfriend" - so sweet, so vicious, all in the same day.  RIP - TW.


« Last Edit: August 23, 2022, 03:05:07 PM by Jason Hines »

Wayne_Kozun

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Re: Tom Weiskopf RIP
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2022, 09:49:46 PM »
The official film of TW winning the 1973 Open at Troon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCB5NjjrptQ
Interesting hat that Johnny Miller was wearing!

Greg Clark

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Re: Tom Weiskopf RIP
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2022, 01:35:55 PM »
Sarazen acing the Postage Stamp at age 71 early in the video is worth the watch alone.  Thanks for posting David.

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