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Ira Fishman

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Another Yale Thread
« on: July 22, 2022, 09:14:52 AM »
We played it yesterday. My nostalgic memories from four decades ago were of scale, variety, and challenge. All borne out several times over. We were told that the Hanse restoration mandate is to come as close as possible to the course as when it opened in 1926. In looking at old threads here, the historic photos no longer display. Does someone have a way to post them?


Thanks.


Ira


PS For Sean A, Niall, and Garland, when my wife put in a plug for a forward tee on #9, she was told “no go”.

Tim Martin

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Re: Another Yale Thread
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2022, 09:23:57 AM »
We played it yesterday. My nostalgic memories from four decades ago were of scale, variety, and challenge. All borne out several times over. We were told that the Hanse restoration mandate is to come as close as possible to the course as when it opened in 1926. In looking at old threads here, the historic photos no longer display. Does someone have a way to post them?


Thanks.


Ira


PS For Sean A, Niall, and Garland, when my wife put in a plug for a forward tee on #9, she was told “no go”.


Ira-Anything in front of the current forward tee would be in Greist Pond. :)

Colin Sheehan

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Re: Another Yale Thread
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2022, 09:48:37 AM »
Ira,
You picked a scorcher of a day to play. I'm glad you got back.


Here's a slideshow of the history of the Ray Tompkins Memorial.


https://photos.app.goo.gl/1M8dqQsdxDu1S7JM9


The 100th anniversary of the gift is this coming January.




Ira Fishman

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Re: Another Yale Thread
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2022, 10:09:23 AM »
Tim,


Lol re Greist Pond. I actually hit the green and ran to bottom of swale. Pin was front, and I of course managed to four putt.


Colin,


Huge thanks for the treasure trove of history. It was a scorcher but well worth bearing through it. I only hope I make it back again. As you know, the course is one of a kind. I can only imagine how the restoration will enhance it.


Ira



mike_malone

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Re: Another Yale Thread
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2022, 10:28:11 AM »
I get the same feeling at Yale as I do at my home club. The land is very important. So I hope they create more width by tree removal so the land becomes even more important. Approaching those greens from different angles will raise the fun level to awesome.
AKA Mayday

Tim Martin

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Re: Another Yale Thread
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2022, 10:33:13 AM »
Tim,


Lol re Greist Pond. I actually hit the green and ran to bottom of swale. Pin was front, and I of course managed to four putt.


Colin,


Huge thanks for the treasure trove of history. It was a scorcher but well worth bearing through it. I only hope I make it back again. As you know, the course is one of a kind. I can only imagine how the restoration will enhance it.


Ira


Ira-Props for toughing out the heat. I think you got a pass on the storms as I talked to a friend who played another course in the area and said they got no rain. I hope your wife enjoyed the day!
« Last Edit: July 22, 2022, 08:28:41 PM by Tim Martin »

Ira Fishman

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Re: Another Yale Thread
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2022, 08:15:30 PM »
Tim,


We were on 15 when it looked like it might storm. Sheryl's reaction was that we should play even more quickly because she wanted to see the whole course which we did because the rain never came. Long way of saying that she really appreciated Yale despite a bunch of long carries off the tee.


We were fortunate enough to play Sleepy Hollow the day before which both of us enjoyed immensely despite the heat.


Ironically, one of the only two courses Sheryl has not enjoyed is Old Mac (the greens were too large).


Ira

Richard Hetzel

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Re: Another Yale Thread
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2022, 09:08:20 AM »
I played it in early June and LOVED it. Everything about the place moves me.
Last Ten Played: 
Donald Ross Course French Lick (IN), Covered Bridge (IN), The Trout Club (OH), Elkhorn Ridge (SD), Bully Pulpit (ND), Links of ND, Hawktree (ND), Dakota Winds (ND), Links Lawsonia (WI), Connemara (KY)
Top 5 this year:
Yale
Culver
Hawktree
Charleston Municipal
Streamsong Blue

Mark Fedeli

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Re: Another Yale Thread
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2022, 11:27:48 AM »
I finally got to play Yale a few weeks ago. I've seen the upcoming restoration described as being massive, epic, most-significant ever, etc. But I was very impressed with what was there right now, and I struggled to see where that level of work was necessary. What are the biggest things that will be done during the restoration that warrant the kind of hyperbolic language?
South Jersey to Brooklyn. @marrrkfedeli

John Blain

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Re: Another Yale Thread
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2022, 09:19:56 AM »
I finally got to play Yale a few weeks ago. I've seen the upcoming restoration described as being massive, epic, most-significant ever, etc. But I was very impressed with what was there right now, and I struggled to see where that level of work was necessary. What are the biggest things that will be done during the restoration that warrant the kind of hyperbolic language?
I agree....especially with plans for the course to be closed for 2 years!!??  That to me just seems like an inordinate amount of time.
It does make you wonder.

Mike Sweeney

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Re: Another Yale Thread
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2022, 06:27:09 AM »
I finally got to play Yale a few weeks ago. I've seen the upcoming restoration described as being massive, epic, most-significant ever, etc. But I was very impressed with what was there right now, and I struggled to see where that level of work was necessary. What are the biggest things that will be done during the restoration that warrant the kind of hyperbolic language?
I agree....especially with plans for the course to be closed for 2 years!!??  That to me just seems like an inordinate amount of time.
It does make you wonder.


You don't have to wonder. The way Yale GC treated their long time employees the last two years while using Covid as a cover is pretty much the definition of "everything that's wrong". I wish I knew the person to call out, but I don't. And the Union reps did nothing for their employees. Again, I don't know their names.



"We need to allow people to make decisions for themselves and their local communities and families. Trying to tie everything into one package simply does not work." 5/11/21

John Blain

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Re: Another Yale Thread
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2022, 11:12:55 AM »
I finally got to play Yale a few weeks ago. I've seen the upcoming restoration described as being massive, epic, most-significant ever, etc. But I was very impressed with what was there right now, and I struggled to see where that level of work was necessary. What are the biggest things that will be done during the restoration that warrant the kind of hyperbolic language?
I agree....especially with plans for the course to be closed for 2 years!!??  That to me just seems like an inordinate amount of time.
It does make you wonder.


You don't have to wonder. The way Yale GC treated their long time employees the last two years while using Covid as a cover is pretty much the definition of "everything that's wrong". I wish I knew the person to call out, but I don't. And the Union reps did nothing for their employees. Again, I don't know their names.
Thanks, Mike. I had no idea about any of that but it doesn't surprise me. In many ways Universities are no different than Corporate America; they eat their own.

Niall C

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Re: Another Yale Thread
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2022, 07:30:08 AM »


PS For Sean A, Niall, and Garland, when my wife put in a plug for a forward tee on #9, she was told “no go”.


Sorry Ira, I don't know what you mean by that. I presume it has something to do with the Longleaf thread ?


Niall

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Another Yale Thread
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2022, 08:33:49 AM »

Richard Hetzel

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Re: Another Yale Thread
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2022, 09:06:05 AM »
I finally got to play Yale a few weeks ago. I've seen the upcoming restoration described as being massive, epic, most-significant ever, etc. But I was very impressed with what was there right now, and I struggled to see where that level of work was necessary. What are the biggest things that will be done during the restoration that warrant the kind of hyperbolic language?
I agree....especially with plans for the course to be closed for 2 years!!??  That to me just seems like an inordinate amount of time.
It does make you wonder.


You don't have to wonder. The way Yale GC treated their long time employees the last two years while using Covid as a cover is pretty much the definition of "everything that's wrong". I wish I knew the person to call out, but I don't. And the Union reps did nothing for their employees. Again, I don't know their names.


Mike, ALL of the employees that I encountered at Yale back in June for AWESOME, outgoing and super friendly. They seemed excited that I came all the way from Ohio to play there. They even welcomed me to come back after my round. I played with a member who grew up on the course and he also spoke about how they let the course go during covid and how they treated employees. He knew all about the restoration and spoke about wetlands being changed and how that may be a sticking point with the EPA as to the scope of those restorations. Restored or not, the place is AWESOME.
Last Ten Played: 
Donald Ross Course French Lick (IN), Covered Bridge (IN), The Trout Club (OH), Elkhorn Ridge (SD), Bully Pulpit (ND), Links of ND, Hawktree (ND), Dakota Winds (ND), Links Lawsonia (WI), Connemara (KY)
Top 5 this year:
Yale
Culver
Hawktree
Charleston Municipal
Streamsong Blue

Tim Martin

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Re: Another Yale Thread
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2022, 12:55:41 PM »
I finally got to play Yale a few weeks ago. I've seen the upcoming restoration described as being massive, epic, most-significant ever, etc. But I was very impressed with what was there right now, and I struggled to see where that level of work was necessary. What are the biggest things that will be done during the restoration that warrant the kind of hyperbolic language?
I agree....especially with plans for the course to be closed for 2 years!!??  That to me just seems like an inordinate amount of time.
It does make you wonder.


You don't have to wonder. The way Yale GC treated their long time employees the last two years while using Covid as a cover is pretty much the definition of "everything that's wrong". I wish I knew the person to call out, but I don't. And the Union reps did nothing for their employees. Again, I don't know their names.


Mike, ALL of the employees that I encountered at Yale back in June for AWESOME, outgoing and super friendly. They seemed excited that I came all the way from Ohio to play there. They even welcomed me to come back after my round. I played with a member who grew up on the course and he also spoke about how they let the course go during covid and how they treated employees. He knew all about the restoration and spoke about wetlands being changed and how that may be a sticking point with the EPA as to the scope of those restorations. Restored or not, the place is AWESOME.


Richard-I agree completely with your last line. “Restored or not, the place is AWESOME.” All anyone has to do is put today’s golf course against the 2000 version as the difference is night and day. As far as the situation with prior employees there has been some misplaced resentment against the current GM and superintendent both of who applied for the vacant positions without any prior connection to the golf course or university. They have done a terrific job under some tough circumstances and are thrilled to be part of the Gil Hanse effort going forward. I’ll be interested to see if those that have acted high handed with the university stay away when the Hanse work is completed.
« Last Edit: August 01, 2022, 01:45:11 PM by Tim Martin »

Ira Fishman

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Re: Another Yale Thread
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2022, 03:34:46 PM »
I probably should have read this: https://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,7977.0.html


There was a whole series of threads under that title. The point was to criticize the work that Rulewich did. But more importantly, they contained photos from Yale back in the beginning which apparently is the purpose of the Hanse restoration. Unfortunately, the photos no longer display (go figure). It would be appreciated if someone knows how to repost/revive them. They covered virtually every hole.


Thanks.

Mike Sweeney

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Re: Another Yale Thread
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2022, 08:36:55 PM »
I’ll be interested to see if those that have acted high handed with the university stay away when the Hanse work is completed.


Tim,


Let's make it interesting. If I play Yale before I die, I will donate $100,000 to the Autism charity that best benefits your son.


If I don't, you make a provision in your estate to do the same to www.endeavor21.org, Dustin's community.


Deal?
"We need to allow people to make decisions for themselves and their local communities and families. Trying to tie everything into one package simply does not work." 5/11/21

Tim Martin

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Re: Another Yale Thread
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2022, 09:46:20 PM »
I’ll be interested to see if those that have acted high handed with the university stay away when the Hanse work is completed.


Tim,


Let's make it interesting. If I play Yale before I die, I will donate $100,000 to the Autism charity that best benefits your son.


If I don't, you make a provision in your estate to do the same to www.endeavor21.org, Dustin's community.


Deal?


If you can type out five posts in a row without mentioning autism or the U.S. Navy I’ll send you a fruit basket. Deal?

Jeff Loh

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Re: Another Yale Thread
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2022, 06:20:54 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D
Thanks Tim!

Mike Sweeney

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Re: Another Yale Thread
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2022, 07:29:59 PM »
;D ;D ;D
Thanks Tim!


Jeff,


Someday you will have to explain "what happened". Yes, we were "golf friends", but then it did cross over. I am sorry that I somehow hurt you, and I will take a sabbatical, again, from GCA out of respect for what I may have done to you.


Peace, and I sincerely wish you well.
"We need to allow people to make decisions for themselves and their local communities and families. Trying to tie everything into one package simply does not work." 5/11/21

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