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Ronald Montesano

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Trout National
« on: March 27, 2023, 12:17:18 PM »
Looks like Kilgore Trout is teaming with Tiger Woods to build a New Jersey golf club.

It might also be Mike Trout.

Who is Tiger's lead architect?
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Mike Worth

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Re: Trout National
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2023, 12:22:30 PM »
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: Trout National
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2023, 12:37:16 PM »
According to the press release, the golf course is being built on a sandy site that was once home to a silica sand mine and is surrounded by forest and farmland. It is about 45 minutes south of Philadelphia. In addition to the 18-hole championship course, Trout National will include a practice range, short-game area, clubhouse, restaurant, lodging and a wedding chapel.

https://www.si.com/mlb/2023/03/27/mike-trout-golf-course-tiger-woods-trout-national-the-reserve

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archie_struthers

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Re: Trout National
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2023, 01:37:57 PM »
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My sources say that Mike Trout and a very successful local businessman are partnering in a venture in southeast Vineland NJ called Silica Sands >  construction is well under way and it appears to be geared for a very exclusive national clientele.


You can read about it by searching Silica Sands online.  Pretty sure Jack Nicklaus lV is the architect in charge. Haven't heard Tiger mentioned at all
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Chris Roselle

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Re: Trout National
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2023, 01:40:56 PM »
Here is what it looks like on Google Earth: https://goo.gl/maps/Bg2QJDRJRtZvuAzQ8
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archie_struthers

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Re: Trout National
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2023, 02:15:39 PM »
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LOL,  just got a salvo from some locals who read the SI article and Trout's comments per same.  Sometimes you wonder as the course is well under way so I don't see how Tiger is designing it . I know for a fact that Jackie Nicklaus has been there a bunch of times and thought he had started the project , I know it's well along in the process. Guess only the "Shadow "knows the truth
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Steve Lapper

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Re: Trout National
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2023, 02:42:46 PM »
Quote from: archie_struthers on March 27, 2023, 01:37:57 PM
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My sources say that Mike Trout and a very successful local businessman are partnering in a venture in southeast Vineland NJ called Silica Sands >  construction is well under way and it appears to be geared for a very exclusive national clientele.


You can read about it by searching Silica Sands online.  Pretty sure Jack Nicklaus lV is the architect in charge. Haven't heard Tiger mentioned at all




This club has been in the works for quite a while. Not too much elevation, but great sandy soils...suitable both for concrete and golf courses.


Construction started in late 2021, yet had to stop temporarily as some of the original property was carved out for a parcel later sold for commercial development. Jack's messy business-related legal divorce caused the owner's to swap him out for Beau Welling and TGR Design. The club will be a very high-end private with plenty of family-related non-golf activities. They've picked the best course and clubhouse constructions firms and have fantastic plans. Given its proximity to Philly, and the NY-DC corridor, it should be very popular for those who want a semi-local destination. I look forward to visiting the site later this summer.




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Rick Sides

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Re: Trout National
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2023, 06:13:25 AM »
Looks like a nice site ! A guy a few years back named Crump found an old sand quarry in south Jersey and did alright with that course  ;)  . Also this will be private course . Curious of initiation fees and dues
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Scott Weersing

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Re: Trout National
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2023, 09:31:45 AM »
Quote from: Steve Lapper on March 27, 2023, 02:42:46 PM
Quote from: archie_struthers on March 27, 2023, 01:37:57 PM
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My sources say that Mike Trout and a very successful local businessman are partnering in a venture in southeast Vineland NJ called Silica Sands >  construction is well under way and it appears to be geared for a very exclusive national clientele.


You can read about it by searching Silica Sands online.  Pretty sure Jack Nicklaus lV is the architect in charge. Haven't heard Tiger mentioned at all




This club has been in the works for quite a while. Not too much elevation, but great sandy soils...suitable both for concrete and golf courses.


Construction started in late 2021, yet had to stop temporarily as some of the original property was carved out for a parcel later sold for commercial development. Jack's messy business-related legal divorce caused the owner's to swap him out for Beau Welling and TGR Design. The club will be a very high-end private with plenty of family-related non-golf activities. They've picked the best course and clubhouse constructions firms and have fantastic plans. Given its proximity to Philly, and the NY-DC corridor, it should be very popular for those who want a semi-local destination. I look forward to visiting the site later this summer.


So do you think that they already have the permits and Army Corp of Engineer approval?


And is Mike Trout putting up the money or just lending his name to the course?
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Steve Lapper

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Re: Trout National New
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2023, 11:04:15 AM »
Quote from: Scott Weersing on March 28, 2023, 09:31:45 AM
Quote from: Steve Lapper on March 27, 2023, 02:42:46 PM
Quote from: archie_struthers on March 27, 2023, 01:37:57 PM
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My sources say that Mike Trout and a very successful local businessman are partnering in a venture in southeast Vineland NJ called Silica Sands >  construction is well under way and it appears to be geared for a very exclusive national clientele.


You can read about it by searching Silica Sands online.  Pretty sure Jack Nicklaus lV is the architect in charge. Haven't heard Tiger mentioned at all




This club has been in the works for quite a while. Not too much elevation, but great sandy soils...suitable both for concrete and golf courses.


Construction started in late 2021, yet had to stop temporarily as some of the original property was carved out for a parcel later sold for commercial development. Jack's messy business-related legal divorce caused the owner's to swap him out for Beau Welling and TGR Design. The club will be a very high-end private with plenty of family-related non-golf activities. They've picked the best course and clubhouse constructions firms and have fantastic plans. Given its proximity to Philly, and the NY-DC corridor, it should be very popular for those who want a semi-local destination. I look forward to visiting the site later this summer.


So do you think that they already have the permits and Army Corp of Engineer approval?


And is Mike Trout putting up the money or just lending his name to the course?


Yes, they have most, if not all the needed permits. Course construction has begun.


Yes, I'm told he's putting in $$$, yet his partner, John Ruga (with a very successful concrete business) is also a major funding partner.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2023, 11:20:38 AM by Steve Lapper »
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Bruce Katona

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Re: Trout National
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2023, 01:10:00 PM »
Slapper:

Mrs. K sent me the SI blurb the other day and asked if I knew anything about it or had an opinion.  Didn't really know much and I shared my opinion of the idea with her.


If anyone on here would know, it'd be either Archie or you.


BK
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Kalen Braley

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Re: Trout National
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2023, 03:26:31 PM »
In other Tiger related news, looks like the PGA tour will be playing at his course in Cabo this fall.

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/35981299/pga-tour-fall-event-moves-mayakoba-el-cardonal
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Steve Lapper

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Re: Trout National
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2023, 03:34:47 PM »
Quote from: Kalen Braley on March 28, 2023, 03:26:31 PM
In other Tiger related news, looks like the PGA tour will be playing at his course in Cabo this fall.

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/35981299/pga-tour-fall-event-moves-mayakoba-el-cardonal


That's sad. El Cardonal is just okay, yet Diamante Dunes (next door and part of same property) is a soooo much better course.



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archie_struthers

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Re: Trout National
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2023, 05:40:59 PM »
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This keeps getting better !  Got a call from a shaper friend of mine who is quite good (Casey Fraser).   He was asking if I knew Tiger 🐅 (I don’t )


Then I got a call from a buddy who says they are playing nine holes there tomorrow. Now that’s news to me !  ….going to have to make the 35-40 mi driveto Vineland myself 🤓 and get the real skinny
« Last Edit: March 28, 2023, 05:44:07 PM by archie_struthers »
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Rick Sides

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Re: Trout National
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2023, 05:44:35 PM »
Archie hit me up if you’re going to go for a visit . I’m a south Jersey guy !
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Kalen Braley

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Re: Trout National
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2023, 06:08:35 PM »
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MCirba

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Re: Trout National
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2023, 08:43:20 AM »
Trout National just another reason for Tiger Woods to spend more time in the City of Brotherly Love.


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archie_struthers

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Re: Trout National
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2023, 09:11:34 AM »
 ??? ??? ???




Something a little strange about a place called "Trout National"  ....Silica Sands fit the bill so nicely


Everything I've ever heard about Mike Trout is that he is a regular guy , a good dude. Humble yet incredibly talented athlete from a small town near me , Millville NJ. That the Phillies missed him still sets most of us off. Comes home every year to hang with his longtime friends. Married still to his high school sweetheart. Eats prodigious amounts of food at Jim's Lunch since he was a kid, still does.

Golf bug got him , used to play first off at Running Deer (Ed Carmen) near his hometown in the summer. Hit it prodigious distances (go figure)  ;D    Still see as hunting or fishing more than golfing .


So putting his name on a "national golf course" just seemed weird to me. But again would have to know him to understand why he would do it, certainly doesn't seem driven by money and fame.  Time will tell but wish them all the best and will continue to report back on the course as it proceeds!
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