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Ben Stephens

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Re: HS2 To Sever WHITTINGTON HEATH In 2: A New Routing Needed - Take Part
« Reply #75 on: October 05, 2023, 04:55:58 AM »
With news of the cancellation of the northern leg of HS2, what does this mean for WH? Was all the redesign and expense a waste or will HS2 still cut through WH as was planned?


Cancelling HS2 from Birmingham to Manchester is a poor decision by UK Government IMO from an economic standpoint.


On the other hand I suspect they will be selling off the land they bought by CPO cheaply to the ire of taxpayers.


The costs spiralled by a number of factors and trying to keep many people/groups happy.


So there could be a possibility that WH will buy the land back and a restoration of the original course be on the books and the new holes converted into a sporting 9 holes?

Ben Stephens

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Re: HS2 To Sever WHITTINGTON HEATH In 2: A New Routing Sorted
« Reply #76 on: October 05, 2023, 05:00:02 AM »
Ingestre Park nr Stafford has also just had its course redesigned and rebuilt due to HS2 (Birmingham to Manchester) as well.


https://www.ingestregolf.co.uk/the_new_course

Sean_A

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Re: HS2 To Sever WHITTINGTON HEATH In 2: A New Routing Needed - Take Part
« Reply #77 on: October 05, 2023, 05:04:35 AM »
With news of the cancellation of the northern leg of HS2, what does this mean for WH? Was all the redesign and expense a waste or will HS2 still cut through WH as was planned?


Cancelling HS2 from Birmingham to Manchester is a poor decision by UK Government IMO from an economic standpoint.


On the other hand I suspect they will be selling off the land they bought by CPO cheaply to the ire of taxpayers.


The costs spiralled by a number of factors and trying to keep many people/groups happy.


So there could be a possibility that WH will buy the land back and a restoration of the original course be on the books and the new holes converted into a sporting 9 holes?


It's possible to a large degree. Although it would be a spare 5 holes.


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Robin_Hiseman

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Re: HS2 To Sever WHITTINGTON HEATH In 2: A New Routing Sorted
« Reply #78 on: October 06, 2023, 10:59:41 AM »
Whittington Heath is within the Phase 1 HS2 works which will be completed. Ingestre Park is not.
2023: Aberdovey, Liphook, Mill Ride (x9), Hillside, Lytham, Delamere Forest, Formby, Birkdale, Carya, Maxx Royal, Cleeve Hill, Sunny (Old & New), West Byfleet, Hoylake, East Berks, RSG, West Sussex, Hollinwell (x2), Alwoodley, JCB (x2), Beau Desert, Painswick (x2), Stranahan, Belfry (Brab & PGA)

Sean_A

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Re: HS2 To Sever WHITTINGTON HEATH In 2: A New Routing Sorted
« Reply #79 on: October 06, 2023, 11:58:14 AM »
Whittington Heath is within the Phase 1 HS2 works which will be completed. Ingestre Park is not.

I thought phase 1 will stop in Brum?

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Robin_Hiseman

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Re: HS2 To Sever WHITTINGTON HEATH In 2: A New Routing Sorted
« Reply #80 on: October 06, 2023, 12:08:58 PM »
According to the official route map, Phase 1 rejoins the West Coast mainline just south-east of Rugeley.
2023: Aberdovey, Liphook, Mill Ride (x9), Hillside, Lytham, Delamere Forest, Formby, Birkdale, Carya, Maxx Royal, Cleeve Hill, Sunny (Old & New), West Byfleet, Hoylake, East Berks, RSG, West Sussex, Hollinwell (x2), Alwoodley, JCB (x2), Beau Desert, Painswick (x2), Stranahan, Belfry (Brab & PGA)

Sean_A

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Re: HS2 To Sever WHITTINGTON HEATH In 2: A New Routing Sorted
« Reply #81 on: October 06, 2023, 05:31:13 PM »
According to the official route map, Phase 1 rejoins the West Coast mainline just south-east of Rugeley.

I think it will stop at Curzon St Station then use the old line heading north. Strange station to stop. Not directly in the centre of Brum and not that close to the airport.

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Robin_Hiseman

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Re: HS2 To Sever WHITTINGTON HEATH In 2: A New Routing Sorted
« Reply #82 on: October 07, 2023, 05:50:48 AM »
The line into Birmingham is a spur, but they have committed to completing the section to connect with the WCML near Rugeley. A huge amount of engineering work is already underway and their main depot is on the line here near Lichfield. Please check online for yourself. It is all there.
2023: Aberdovey, Liphook, Mill Ride (x9), Hillside, Lytham, Delamere Forest, Formby, Birkdale, Carya, Maxx Royal, Cleeve Hill, Sunny (Old & New), West Byfleet, Hoylake, East Berks, RSG, West Sussex, Hollinwell (x2), Alwoodley, JCB (x2), Beau Desert, Painswick (x2), Stranahan, Belfry (Brab & PGA)

Ben Voelker

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Re: HS2 To Sever WHITTINGTON HEATH In 2: A New Routing Sorted
« Reply #83 on: October 09, 2023, 11:00:21 AM »
The line into Birmingham is a spur, but they have committed to completing the section to connect with the WCML near Rugeley. A huge amount of engineering work is already underway and their main depot is on the line here near Lichfield. Please check online for yourself. It is all there.


This is correct.  I worked on HS2 for a year and a half.  Phase 1 goes into Curzon Street, Interchange Station near the airport and Lichfield Trent Valley, which is just north of the bit that cuts through WH.  Which bit is now a spur given the extent of the line is up for debate!


However, Ingestre Park is within the Phase 2 area going to Manchester so presumably will no longer me impacted, unless it's too late.

Robin_Hiseman

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Re: HS2 To Sever WHITTINGTON HEATH In 2: A New Routing Sorted
« Reply #84 on: October 09, 2023, 12:00:37 PM »
Ingestre Park has already been completely rebuilt.


https://www.ingestregolf.co.uk/the_new_course
2023: Aberdovey, Liphook, Mill Ride (x9), Hillside, Lytham, Delamere Forest, Formby, Birkdale, Carya, Maxx Royal, Cleeve Hill, Sunny (Old & New), West Byfleet, Hoylake, East Berks, RSG, West Sussex, Hollinwell (x2), Alwoodley, JCB (x2), Beau Desert, Painswick (x2), Stranahan, Belfry (Brab & PGA)

Ben Stephens

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Re: HS2 To Sever WHITTINGTON HEATH In 2: A New Routing Sorted
« Reply #85 on: October 10, 2023, 02:27:52 AM »
Ingestre Park has already been completely rebuilt.


https://www.ingestregolf.co.uk/the_new_course


Robin,


I already beat you to it - I put the link up in an earlier thread  ;D

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