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My thread about longest on-tee-shot forced carries was inspired by his plan for the fifth hole at the far right of the map heís holdingóa 600 yard par five with at least 150 yards of broken ground to be carried on the second shot.
We've known this for awhile. https://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,68395Not sure i'm buying the land and build costs explanation thou. Wages and land cost are both very inexpensive here in Utah, especially in the semi-remote location he was looking at. Guess he couldn't just say, who wants to fund a project like this in F'ing BFE Utah...
Hey Jeff,That is certainly damn cheap, even if Utah is still inexpensive relatively speaking. I'm not sure how much the deal was going to be in Morgan for the existing course, but I looked up some other large parcels in the area and they're 4-5k per acre, so that's understandable. And Aiken makes all the sense in the world with better year round temps and other great offerings close by, but no doubt it would have been nice to see what they would have done in Utah.
I am curious to see how he is able to fund the course. Buying the land is definitely a positive step -- it shows commitment and gives you options if one source isn't working out. But building the course and getting to opening day is another $5 million or more, when you include a maintenance building and equipment.
One of his Utah golf buddies sold his business for $8B in 2018 -- don't know if there's a connection but I saw him congratulate ZB on twitter when he announced the land sale closed. That's F everybody money.
I donít understand this either. Seems like a cop out. Wasnít his original desire for this course was to give back to Utah golf? To give the state a unique course to be proud of and enjoy. Guess he didnít know it cost quite a chunk of change to build a course? So you want to give back, but if it cost money youíre out? Iím very confused here.
Yes...and perhaps the guy with the actual money wanted a small say in how it was spent...perhaps...
Quote from: Kalen Braley on September 02, 2020, 02:14:46 PMHey Jeff,That is certainly damn cheap, even if Utah is still inexpensive relatively speaking. I'm not sure how much the deal was going to be in Morgan for the existing course, but I looked up some other large parcels in the area and they're 4-5k per acre, so that's understandable. And Aiken makes all the sense in the world with better year round temps and other great offerings close by, but no doubt it would have been nice to see what they would have done in Utah.While I think it is super cool that Zac is moving this forward, even in the midst of having their first child (congrats!), I want to make one thing clear. Utah land is nowhere near cheap. Utah has some of the most expensive land prices I've come across anywhere in the country.
I don't know anything about the land or prices in Utah.But I know very well how good this piece of land is in SC, and that it was priced right, with low construction costs due to sand, and excellent natural drainage.I also know the HIGH in Ogden Utah averages 37 degrees in January and Aiken's average is 58.In December, Ogden's average high is 38 degrees and Aiken's is 60 degrees.In November, Ogden's average HIGH is 49 degrees, Aiken's is 69 degrees.Zac plays the PGA Tour Mid January-November.During the closest thing the PGA Tour gets to an off season , it's freezing in Ogden.Aiken SC is a really cool town. that's 20 minutes from the site.Some of you are really over thinking this.Did I mention how good the land he selected in SC?I don't hear comparisons to Swinley, Pine Valley or Pinehurst when I hear discussions of Utah land. (I could be way off base here as I know little of Utah other than its spectacular National Parks and epic Ski mountains)Zac is 29 years old and passionate about golf architecture. There's plenty of time to build his dream course in Utah.Perhaps rather than a cop out,it's just another step along a long journey.