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No one would describe me as a bomber and I drove it to the upslope of the green on 8 with a bit of a U-turn!!!!! This could turn this into a major discussion of short par 4s because a well regarded hole on a famous course popped into my head immediately when MWP commented about the lack of difference between long iron and driver, but this is not the place for that. I really liked the pitch and the discrepancy didn't bother me as much as it did with you. I have no problem with the pitch either, it is an exacting one and fun to play but I question a hole where it is almost a foregone conclusion what the second shot will be whether you hit driver, 3 wood, hybrid or even an iron or if you pull it 15 yards or push it 15... ball funnels to a pretty small area and I cannot see a how a tee shot could reach the green and stop on the surface. I suppose one could argue that the better tee shot is played just short of the right bunker flirting with it and the native to the right. Agree with you on #4, it's an excellent hole. I especially liked the look of the green from the fairway. Love it, believe it is in the 425 range??? but plays a bit longerInteresting thought regarding 18 and you're correct that 410 is about the max yardage for a tee close to 17. I think there was also an opportunity to have a wonderful 385-405 yard closer... but 500 was the choice???!!! That would be an interesting tee shot over there, but it would make for a reasonably long trek between holes. Not sure anyone going to be walking the course anyway so the relocated tee is more about expense (walking bridge) than anything. Do believe it would improve the hole.
Bah humbug..number 10 is great There issue closed.With all this positive talk, is Russ ready for you to post some pictures yet?Greg 9 days and counting mate
Does anyone know who the design associate working on this course for Fazio was?
Just had to revive an old thread rather than jump into the "Cabo Golf" threads with other courses...since I only played Chileno Bay...but wow what a place. Aside from being an all-time top overall experience, the course was easily the best and most enjoyable Fazio design I've played. He finally managed to do pretty AND fun. So many cool slopes and features that just work...angles, cool greens, etc. The 12th is unquestionably one of my favorite par 5s anywhere. 3 is an excellent reverse redan (albeit a bit short), and the approach into the 10th is disorientingly cool. I can understand the criticism of the first driveable par 4 (7?), but I think 11 is a good one. And all of this managed with grabby grass around the greens - maybe not quite kikuyu grabby, but not a firm fescue type bounce. Still, the bump and run game was alive and well with the various backboards, sideboards, etc. If you can play it, you should. I had only planned to play once but eagerly signed up for a second go-around. Would love to see more work like this from the Fazio group. (And a friendlier and more attentive staff you will not encounter...)