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Kyle Harris

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Re: Reunderstanding Ross
« Reply #275 on: December 01, 2021, 05:28:37 AM »
I wish this thread were pinned to the top of the message board. As the dean of "Your golf course is not a Donald Ross course" here in Florida, I reference it a lot.
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Re: Reunderstanding Ross
« Reply #276 on: December 01, 2021, 01:36:05 PM »
I wish this thread were pinned to the top of the message board. As the dean of "Your golf course is not a Donald Ross course" here in Florida, I reference it a lot.
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Re: Reunderstanding Ross
« Reply #277 on: December 02, 2021, 08:25:58 PM »
You can bookmark the thread, and then the overpinning won't be necessary.
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Re: Reunderstanding Ross
« Reply #278 on: April 18, 2022, 09:22:41 AM »
Here is a proposed sketch plan dated 1922 for Petersham Golf Club in Petersham, Massachusetts. This course no longer exists.





Here is a link for those who would like a closer look:


https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:qv33tc04p


Bret Lawrence

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Re: Reunderstanding Ross
« Reply #279 on: April 19, 2022, 10:31:57 AM »
Bretton Woods-Mount Washington Golf Course:


This course is listed as a 1915 design, but the work wasn’t completed until later and the course was opened in 1921.  Here are a few articles detailing some of Ross’ work at Mount Washington and announcing the opening. 


In the Tufts Archives there are drawings for all 18 holes of the “Bretton Woods” course. The drawings match up with what the first article is telling us.  Ross built an entirely new nine (the back nine) and altered many of the original holes on the front, but did retain the first hole and some of the features and routing of Holes 13-16 for his 4th through 7th holes.


The original Mount Pleasant nine was broken off in 1921 and called the Mount Pleasant course again, making 27 holes in total.


The White Mountain Echo., September 04, 1920:









Announcement of the opening match on August 21, 1921:









Bret Lawrence

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Re: Reunderstanding Ross
« Reply #280 on: April 21, 2022, 08:33:24 AM »
Including an 18-hole routing map for Whippoorwill Country Club from 1927.  Also including a letter from Ross dated 1928.  Shortly after this course was completed, Charles Banks redesigned the golf course using additional land not previously available to Ross. The Banks design does incorporate some of the original Ross holes into the design.


Courtesy of the United States Department of Interior, National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted Historic Site:



Link to the map:


https://flic.kr/p/2kNfmKJ


Ross Letter dated March 14, 1928:


 Courtesy of the United States Department of Interior, National Park Service, Frederick Law Olmsted Historic Site
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MCirba

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Re: Reunderstanding Ross New
« Reply #281 on: May 16, 2022, 03:24:39 PM »
This may be a new one.   Two summers ago Tom Dunne and I had played Sugarloaf Resort in Maine and rather than subsequently quit the game ;) , we decided to squeeze in nine holes elsewhere before the dinner event.   We had heard good things from Michael Moore about Mingo Springs Golf Course, about 1/2 hour away which is today made up of (I believe) 2 of the 3 courses listed in this article.   Mr. Moore indicated that both nines were worthy but that the front nine (which I believe is the 3rd nine mentioned in the article) was pretty special.


I had done some preliminary research and the oldest course listed had origins from Arthur Fenn but I'm not 100% it's the 1st course mentioned here.   In any case, this June 6th, 1954 Boston Globe article indicates that at least one of the courses there was designed by Donald Ross and  I would say neither Tom nor I would have much reason for doubt as it was a wild and wooly affair that used the terrain magnificently.


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