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With respect to Garland and others, I think there is a tendency for visitors (both UK and foreign) to forget that in the UK they are generally playing at a members club and not just some pay and play facility. Folk just seem to take access for granted over here when in fact they are privileged to be able to play the course and and enjoy the clubhouse as visitors. If you look at it in that way then I think some would be a bit more respectful of the club rules, which in effect are the rules of the members.
The hose I bought to comply with their rules only cost $6, and I had no objection to wearing them.
Garland,I was so sorry to hear from others of this thread and your unsatisfactory experience. As a proud member of the Golf House Club it is, of course, extremely disappointing to hear that an unaccompanied American visitor has had such an unsatisfying experience. I will take this matter up with the committee.What I propose to suggest is that the club conducts an urgent and complete review of the way it deals with unaccompanied visitor play. In doing that, I will ask them to pay particular attention to how US private clubs treat unaccompanied visitor play. Given Elie's prestige and history and(as has been pointed to already in this thread, it's strong connections with the R&A), we will, I am sure, take soundings from clubs such as Seminole, San Francisco Golf Club and Pine Valley and learn from the way those clubs would have handled an unaccompanied visitor in stretch denim. I have little doubt that the club will learn from this episode. It seems to me that the only way forward for the club will be to adopt the stance of those US private clubs and ban unaccompanied visitor play completely. I'm sure you'll agree that is the only way forward for private UK clubs to avoid inconveniencing people like you and your son in future.As to your concern that Elie and its traditions are killing junior golf in Scotland. We struggle along with just 160 junior members and the waiting list for membership is just a couple of years, so I will bring this to the urgent attention of the committee.Finally, I’m delighted to see that you have been able to see the bigger picture. Rather than take your anger and frustration on the airline, who, after all, did nothing wrong other than lose your baggage, you have seen the important issue and focussed in on it. A lesser man might even have thought of asking the airline to pay for the cost of those trousers.Yours Respectfully,Mark
Mike,I don't think anyone took one. I was in a blue short, lighter blue shorts, red hose, and white golf shoes. Pearce is always fond of the red, white & blue ensamble.
Mike,I don't think anyone took one. I was in a blue short, lighter blue shorts, red hose, and white golf shoes. Pearce is always fond of the red, white & blue combo.
Mike,On the upside, your socks appear to have scared away the UFO hovering above the trees there.Once again, the world owes you a debt of gratitude for averting the threat of an impending alien invasion.Many thanks,With love,Marty.
Quote from: Marty Bonnar on May 25, 2019, 05:40:43 PMMike,On the upside, your socks appear to have scared away the UFO hovering above the trees there.Once again, the world owes you a debt of gratitude for averting the threat of an impending alien invasion.Many thanks,With love,Marty. Just for that I am going with the socks every day of your participation in this year's Buda! Get ready... the power of the HOSE is on its way!
But, this is my favorite combo... the famous Royal Cinque Ports stripes!
Son #1 has been lobbying me to be open to white shoes for some time now. Whit in white shoes and RCP Stripes pretty much kills any objections!!
Elie is hell bent on enforcing their arcane rules. As far as I am concerned, they may be part of the reason there is a thread about Scottish golf being in trouble.Our luggage did not make it with us to Scotland, and my son wore fashionable stretch denim Jean's on the plane for comfort so he did not have his golfing pants to wear. No matter that half the eight or so lads and gents gathered by the first tee were more shoddy in appearance with their old corduroy pants and such. No excuses accepted, and a shallow lecture on tradition was what we got. So their shop made a sale of one pair of pants, which resulted in them no having a chance to sell four meals, and no prospect of at least two of us returning. If they had some brains they would know their stupid rule was made for the Levi's of old, and enforce it appropriately. Too bad I'm not a Twitter user so I can excoriate them there too.
Why should the club take the financial hit?
A new rule of thumb for me: if the tallest structure in town is still the church steeple, the adjacent golf course is sure to be a top flight charmer.
Ryan,Why should the club take the financial hit? It's allowing unaccompanied visitors to play and it has a set of rules. They should abide by them. There is a party here that is responsible for the position Garland and his son found themselves in and which has an obligation to sort this and that's the airline. Private members clubs are not charities. You appear to be allowing your dislike of the traditional private members clubs to cloud your judgment on this.
... The sad part of this saga is the course wasn't enjoyed. Ya can't please all the folks all the time. Ciao
Scott, I don't think you got the gist of Ryan's post.
Scott, I don't think you got the gist of Ryan's post.I happened to find the membership fees for Elie online. To be a "member" there costs less than a yearly pass for the public course nearest me here. Clearly the "members" there are capitalists engaged in supply and demand economics. It seems to me that is what Ryan was getting at.