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Steve_ Shaffer

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Shackamaxon Finally Sold...update
« on: May 01, 2011, 10:19:10 AM »
I can't search for the other thread(I get "database error") so here's an article:

http://scotchplains.patch.com/articles/shackamaxon-selling-to-nj-based-management-firm-2

RDC also owns Forsgate.
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Shackamaxon Sold
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2011, 11:05:23 AM »
Steve:

That's a fascinating article, as it concerns the point of view of the mayor and the Town Council --

1.  they are trying to figure out how to control how the property is redeveloped,

2.  they are frightened by the idea that someone could build 100 single-family homes under current zoning, adding more kids to the school system and causing the town to pay for additional services, and

3.  one suggestion was to build a NEW MUNICIPAL COMPLEX at the school site and sell off the present town buildings downtown to a developer!
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: Shackamaxon Sold
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2011, 11:32:51 AM »
Here is the prior thread:

http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?topic=46830.0

Apparently, the sale is still pending and the club is operating,at least until the end of May, for those members who have paid dues= about 150. There is litigation pending as a result of the township's resolution"

http://scotchplains.patch.com/articles/scotch-plains-planning-board-approves-councils-shack-resolution
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Jaeger Kovich

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Re: Shackamaxon Sold????
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2011, 06:21:38 PM »
Shack members have playing rights at Forsgate... at least at the moment.
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Alex Lagowitz

Re: Shackamaxon Sold????
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2011, 07:07:25 PM »
I believe the deal is already finalized (or very very close).  The new owners have already taken control of the course, and Scott Barnaby, the former pro at Forsgate CC, was permanently moved to Shack as the current head pro.  The new ownership now controls the rights of Forsgate CC, Fiddler's Elbow, and now Shack.
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Patrick_Mucci

Re: Shackamaxon Sold????
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2011, 07:55:27 PM »
Steve,

Shackamaxon is located in the heart of a residential area.

If the town rezones the current R-1 property, I'd like to be the attorney representing the opposition. ;D
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Scott Stearns

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Re: Shackamaxon Sold????
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2011, 10:53:12 PM »
gotta love it--property ALREADY pays residential taxes---but acually putting up residences and asking the town to provide the services those taxes should provide would, er, "overtax" the schools.
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: Shackamaxon Sold????
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2011, 08:24:14 AM »
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Jerry Kluger

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Re: Shackamaxon Sold????
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2011, 08:32:14 AM »
Steve: I think it shows that the public likes having golf courses and the green space within some more densely populated areas.  When my club was doing some renovations and getting a hard time from the local government, the homeowners associations in the area went to bat for us because they didn't want to see the club go away and more houses built.
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: Shackamaxon Sold????
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2011, 09:09:09 AM »
The comments to the article are very interesting.

Will Schiavone back out?
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Patrick_Mucci

Re: Shackamaxon Sold????
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2011, 10:19:12 PM »
Tonight, the town, bank and RDC reached an agreement and Shackamaxon will continue to be a viable golf course/club this season
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: Shackamaxon Finally Sold...update
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2011, 01:14:11 PM »
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Jaeger Kovich

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Re: Shackamaxon Finally Sold...update
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2011, 05:04:29 PM »
And the first order of business is Stephen Kay is coming in for a full and much needed bunker renovation.
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Joe Bausch

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Re: Shackamaxon Finally Sold...update
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2011, 05:07:43 PM »
Quote from: Jaeger Kovich on December 24, 2011, 05:04:29 PM
And the first order of business is Stephen Kay is coming in for a full and much needed bunker renovation.

Maybe Stephen will address the bunker work in his talk at the Jan 21st Philly GCA dinner!
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: Shackamaxon Finally Sold...update
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2012, 10:32:58 AM »
Here's another update with a pic of the island green on #9:

http://www.nj.com/golf/index.ssf/2012/05/nearly_bulldozed_shackamaxon_g.html
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Patrick_Mucci

Re: Shackamaxon Finally Sold...update
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2012, 02:17:11 PM »
Steve,

Thanks for the link.

Shackamaxon is a good golf course, suffering from a difficult location, like many clubs.

I hope Ron is successful in his bid to retain the course as a viable golf club.
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Howard Riefs

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Re: Shackamaxon Finally Sold...update
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2012, 02:19:25 PM »
Quote from: Steve_ Shaffer on May 30, 2012, 10:32:58 AM
Here's another update with a pic of the island green on #9:

http://www.nj.com/golf/index.ssf/2012/05/nearly_bulldozed_shackamaxon_g.html

Great line:

“You have a Monet in golf course architects in Tillinghast and there are only a certain number of those in existence — he ain’t building anymore,” Schiavone said. “Seeing those lost — if a Piscasso was burned or written on, it would be painful. If you’re in the golf business and you love the game and golf course architecture as I do, we feel that saving and preserving and bringing back a gem like this, it’s something we’re proud of.”
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Lou Cutolo

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Re: Shackamaxon Finally Sold...update
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2012, 03:18:38 PM »
The MGA has a play day at shack on June 28th
MGA Play Days offer a fantastic lineup of venues for MGA members. Play Days are one-day tournaments for men and women golfers of all ages and abilities.
Your $75 entry fee will get you and your friends 18 holes of golf, cart, range balls (where available), continental breakfast and lunch.
Prizes are awarded for net and gross finishes. Click here to register.
The 2012 schedule is as follows:
•   Tuesday, June 5 - Centennial Golf Club, Carmel, N.Y., 8 a.m.
•   Thursday, June 28 - Shackamaxon Country Club, Scotch Plains, N.J., 8 a.m.
•   Thursday, July 12 - The Golf Club at Mansion Ridge, Monroe, N.Y., 8:30 a.m.
•   Wednesday, September 5 - Royce Brook Golf Club, Hillsborough, N.J., 8 a.m.
•   Wednesday, September 12 - Spook Rock Golf Course, Suffern, N.Y., 8 a.m.
•   Tuesday, October 16 - Olde Vine Golf Club, Riverhead, N.Y., 9 a.m.
•   Monday, October 22 - Salem Golf Club, Salem, N.Y., 8 a.m.
•   Second LI date to be announced soon.
Thank you for participating and supporting MGA Play Days throughout the 2011 season. We hope to see everyone again in 2012 and look forward to another great year of events.
For more information contact Kevin Kline at kkline@mgagolf.org or 914-347-4653.

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David Cronheim

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Re: Shackamaxon Finally Sold...update
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2012, 09:44:43 AM »
Last I had heard, there was a condemnation proceeding commenced by Scotch Plains...I haven't heard anything since last year though on the status of the lawsuit filed by the club to try and block the town's actions. I believe the town wanted to build a municipal building on the premises. As a NJ lawyer, I can tell you that if the town wants it, the town will get it. It is nearly impossible to block a condemnation if the town has the desire (and money) to follow through.
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: Shackamaxon Finally Sold...update
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2015, 05:46:51 PM »
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Patrick_Mucci

Re: Shackamaxon Finally Sold...update
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2015, 10:16:24 PM »
Steve,
 
I don't believe that Toll Brothers has any ownership of the golf course, they're developing a "donut" hole within the course.
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