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Sorry, forgive my geographic ignorance, its "up there" somewhere isn't it?
Quote from: Josh Stevens on March 02, 2015, 06:07:49 PMSorry, forgive my geographic ignorance, its "up there" somewhere isn't it?Josh:You'd be better off quitting while you're only slightly behind. Or you could take another approach, perhaps seeking out why what you see in the photos as unnatural or unbefitting a golf course works so well. And I'd leave out the parts concerning access and the state of private golf in the United States, it just makes you look like you have a chip on your shoulder. No one wants to get into a conversation with someone who has an agenda.Sven
Getting back to the original post, thanks Jon for a great photo tour. Probably one of the best on this site.
Quote from: Scott W on March 02, 2015, 07:00:00 PMGetting back to the original post, thanks Jon for a great photo tour. Probably one of the best on this site.For what? Do you now want to join Fishers Island more than before? Who has he done a service?
These photos remind me of Gib's writing. Words, words, words, words, my God, so many words.
Feathers are there to be ruffled are they not? Surely having to explain this place to someone who has never seen it is rather fun. I confess the lack of access to many of Americas top courses does tend to make me mark them down. Josh,Please inform Ran and the magazines that provide the ratings that there's a new category for determining a golf course's architectural merits, namely, whether you can gain access to it.I know that is just envy and so a bit intellectually feeble on my part, but on the other hand in an attempt to defend the indefensible, is the ranking of say TOC more valid after millions of rounds of golf by possibly a million different golfers, than that of FI where maybe only a few thousand different individuals have been around it in recent times. PerhapsWouldn't that depend upon the average architectural IQ of those who have played TOC and FI ?I think the regular posters here have outgrown the natural tendency to be gushing in praise of some place that is all but impossible to get on so I wont try that one, but I am not about to apologise for not blindly accepting other people's opinion.Let me see if I can rephrase the above statement.You'd rather remain in the dark than accept the opinions of those who have played the golf course.You'd rather wallow in ignorance than accept the opinions of knowledgeable golfers with personal first hand experience.Any fool can learn from his own experience, but it takes a wise man to learn from the experiences of others.Let me ask you (again this is from genuine ignorance, not fishing for a response here) - could those of you old enough, think back 30 years to the 80's, in the dark days before internet or GCA. Had you ever heard of FI, and if so, what was your view? Did you think it great, or just some strange WASP bolthole upstate that never saw the light of day, and not a patch on the great championship venues like Congressional and all the great cutting edge stuff being built in Florida? OK, I get it, this thread is meant to be a joke, as no one would be so uninformed, so ignorant or so moronic as to make the above statement, absent jest.But, to answer your question, the Internet and GCA didn't create intelligent thought.Informed, intelligent thought existed prior to the introduction of the Internet and GCA.Yes, intelligent, interested, well informed golfers knew about FI, NGLA, BPB, CPC, PV, WFW and many other great golf courses.When was it "rediscovered"That's a question that predisposes an erroneous answer.FI was never lost.It wasn't rediscovered, it was only recently discovered by the uninformed, the uninterested and the ignorant.
Oops, I hope I haven't picked a scab here?