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I thought Misquamicut in RI was a Donald Ross but could be mistaken
Sven, I thought Grove Park Inn was Barker?
Can anyone comment on the Peterhead Courses. These are near enough Cruden Bay and I winder should I take a look when I am there?I have sung the praises of BurntIsland many times on this site
Sven,I think there have been a number of threads where Grove Park has been discussed. Here is a link to a Tom MacWood thread wherein he straightens out some of the history. (Ironically, by the time Tom straightened it out, the course had already done extensive Ross restoration work, even though Ross's work there was minimal at most.)http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,18432.0.htmlThe gist is that the course couldn't have been Willie Park in 1909 because Park wasn't in the country. Tom MacWood was able to put Park there in 1916-1917, but changes were not made to the course at this point, and Tom suggested that either Park had suggested changes which were not carried out, or that Park had offered plans for a second course that was not built. Either way, while Park did list it in his advertising, it doesn't sound like it is a Park course. Or at least there is no evidence confirming that it is a Park course.
Quote from: James Boon on September 01, 2014, 12:24:04 PMBC,Its a pedantic point I'm afraid, but the entry for Notts should really read "Notts Golf Club (Hollinwell)" as that is the full title. Notts being the club, which was previously at a couple of other courses in the later part of the 19th Century (one now known as Bulwell Forest was also laid out by Park Jnr I think?) before moving to its current course known as Hollinwell in 1901 the original layout for which was done by Park Jnr.Cheers,JamesI didn't realise Bulwell was a Park Jnr too, though to be honest I'd never bothered to even think about who designed it. I've always quite liked it, far more interesting than the other muni's in Nottingham and you always see some interesting sights from the local estate too.....It's pretty tight on space now but the routing covers the hillier parts of the course well which does seem quite Park like so you could well be right. If you want fast & firm it's always a good bet during the summer!
BC,Its a pedantic point I'm afraid, but the entry for Notts should really read "Notts Golf Club (Hollinwell)" as that is the full title. Notts being the club, which was previously at a couple of other courses in the later part of the 19th Century (one now known as Bulwell Forest was also laid out by Park Jnr I think?) before moving to its current course known as Hollinwell in 1901 the original layout for which was done by Park Jnr.Cheers,James
Sven,Likewise, the listing in Park's promotional material doesn't prove he designed it, especially given that there is no indication elsewhere that Park did anything on the ground in 1916-17 or at any other time. I don't think it makes sense to list Park as the designer (or even one of the designers) without some proof.The best evidence I recall that strongly suggested it couldn't have been Park was the stick routing from circa 1913. As I recall, stick routing showed the same basic course as existed long after Park supposedly (re)designed it, with the only changes relating to the area around the new clubhouse (the minor Ross changes.)
Ben, I have gone through the book on Willie Park Jr by Walter Stephen and cross checked the courses they list with the courses you list, and here are the courses that you might consider adding to your list; I might make the note that some of the courses may have altered, some may no longer exist, some may have changed name. I am not sure of the extent of Park's work on these courses and have not crossed checked the list against other sources for accuracy, but I am sure someone will do that in due course. Either way, it is an impressive list of work, and one that should be documented properly.ScotlandBo'nessBridge of WeirCarnoustieCrieffDalkeith and NewbattleForresGailesGlencorseGlasgowGranton-on-SpeyInnellanJedburghKilspindieMelroseMonifiethMurrayfieldNew LuftnessSelkirkShiskine St BoswellsTorwoodleeTurnhouseEnglandActonAldeburghAlnworthBarryBerkhamsteadBerwick-upon-TweedBexhillBlundell SandsBrighton & HoveBroadstoneCambridge UniversityCannon's ParkChiselhurstCoombe HillCuckfieldEdgewareFormbyGravesendFrinton-on-SeaGoswickHartlepoolHeadingleyHendonKnebworthLombardzideMuswell HillNeasdon Newbigging-by-SeaNorthhamptonNottinghamRichmondSeafordSheernessShooters HillSunbridge ParkTooting BecTotteridgeTranmereTynemouthWembleyWest MiddlesexIrelandKillarneyLarneLondonderryEuropeAntwerpLa BoulieDieppeCostbelle, HyeresDinardEvian-les0BainsMonte CarloRouenViennaCanadaAbitibi Power and Paper Co, Iroquois Falls, ONBowness GC, Calgary, ABCalgary St Andrews GC, Calcary, ABIslesmere GC, Islesmere, QCKentville GC, Kentville, NSSenneville Country Club, Senneville, QCSummerlea GC, Montreal, QCUSAAlton Beach Country Club, Miami, FLAsheville Country Club, Asheville, NCAutomobile CC, Detroit, MIBaltimore Country Club, Baltimore, MDCountry Club of Atlantic City, Northfield, NJDefiance Country Club, Defiance, OHGlen Ridge Country Club, Glen Ridge, NJGrand Rapids Country Club, Grand Rapids, MIGreen Valley Country Club, Roxborough, PAHoosie-Whisick Club, Canton, MAMetacomet Golf Club, East Providence, RINew Bedford Country Club, New Bedford, MANew Canaan Country Club, New Canaan, CIOcean City Country Club, Ocean City, NJPittsburgh Field Club, Pittsburgh, PASt Albans Golf Club, St Albans, NYState College, State College, PAJust have a question about Rolland Road GC in MD. You say 'Rolling Road'. Is this correct, or is it 'Rolland'?