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Mike Hendren

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Please comment on these photographs.
« on: August 17, 2014, 07:05:33 PM »






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Sean_A

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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2014, 07:17:14 PM »
Greens look simple, yet effective.  Odd cut line on the 2nd pic.

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PCCraig

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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2014, 07:21:06 PM »
Chainsaws needed...
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Tommy Williamsen

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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2014, 07:27:28 PM »
Greens are pretty small, round, and quite honestly boring. I can understand the idea behind them and the ground game would work.  But it sure looks dull.
A few more tree would be nice.  
No bunkers or rough?
Love the effect of the first picture.
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Patrick_Mucci

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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2014, 07:44:54 PM »
Mike,

Is that the same green ?

Is it in NC ?

Joe Bausch

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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2014, 08:14:49 PM »
Mike,

Is that the same green ?

Is it in NC ?

Need more data, but I suspect these are three photos from different years of the same green.
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2014, 08:28:53 PM »
It depends how the shots play into the/these greens.  What are the angle-line of play and yardages.  It appears there are a nice series of 'Maxwell rolls' showing in the first.  That always makes for some fun.  I think the first and third photo are same green, but middle photo (if that is the same green) looks like it was reduced in size.  I think the low profile-ground level green when done sparingly can be a fun feature for a hole or two on a course.
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Tim_Weiman

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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2014, 10:00:09 PM »
Looks pretty interesting to me. Hardly dull.
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Sam Morrow

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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2014, 10:25:10 PM »
Simple looking but looks like fun.

Mike Hendren

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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2014, 10:33:23 PM »
3 different greens.   Not in NC.

Anyone willing to guess the decade they were built?

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Rees Milikin

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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2014, 10:58:41 PM »
Back to Front slope, receptive to ground and aerial, lots of pin placements for relatively small greens, might have been built in the early 30's.

Sam Morrow

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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2014, 11:01:02 PM »
The course was built in the 90's.

Dave McCollum

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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2014, 11:18:05 PM »
My guess is the greens were built in the 1950's or early 60's.

Charlie_Bell

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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2014, 11:41:29 PM »
1)  Doesn't look like Ireland.
2)  Easy to maintain.
3)  Better to be short than long.

Mike Sweeney

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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2014, 07:02:29 AM »
My guess is the greens were built in the 1950's or early 60's.

and I am guessing this is the course that Mike grew up on? Interested to hear your reflections if this is accurate.

Michael Moore

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« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2014, 07:22:02 AM »
The first photograph is overexposed and has an inappropriate filter applied to it.

The second photo is poorly composed and is out of focus perhaps due to zooming effects.

The third photo features a compelling mise-en-scene with a fully textured backdrop and a profound contrast between the medieval darkness of the forest and the enduring hope of the flagstick.
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Bill Brightly

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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2014, 07:48:01 AM »
The greens are not defended by bunkers.
They are very small and require great accuracy to approach the hole.
I'd guess these are par 5 greens, or perhaps short par three holes.

Gene Greco

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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2014, 08:17:59 AM »
2nd picture looks like the 8th at Bridgehampton Club built early 1900s
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Jeff Taylor

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« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2014, 09:08:38 AM »
The first photograph is overexposed and has an inappropriate filter applied to it.

The second photo is poorly composed and is out of focus perhaps due to zooming effects.

The third photo features a compelling mise-en-scene with a fully textured backdrop and a profound contrast between the medieval darkness of the forest and the enduring hope of the flagstick.

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Eric Smith

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« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2014, 10:01:57 AM »
This crowd has gone deadly silent, the Cinderella story, outta no where, a former greenskeeper now - about to become the Masters champion. It looks like a mirac - It's in the Hole!

RussBaribault

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« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2014, 10:12:14 AM »
Thee second and third photo looks like cobbs creek.
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« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2014, 11:01:24 AM »
My guess is the greens were built in the 1950's or early 60's.

and I am guessing this is the course that Mike grew up on? Interested to hear your reflections if this is accurate.

Correct.   In order, these are the 8th (440 yards), 5th (502 yards) and 2nd (191 yards) greens at Rolling Hills Country club in rural West Tennessee where I learned the game and won the men's championship twice while in high school.   The 9 hole course opened in 1970.   I remember monthly dues of $15.  I believe they're $85 today.

I returned last weekend for the first time in over 25 years and found the course much as I remembered it, with the exception of unfortunate tree plantings and some grassed over greenside bunkers.  It confirmed my belief that the green pads are exceptional and my theory that there is great architecture to be found in the most unlikely of places, albeit in limited doses.  

I was tempted to forward these photographs to Sean and have him introduce them just for fun.

If okay, I'd like to post a tour of the course.  I cannot begin to describe the emotional connection I have with this place.

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Sven Nilsen

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« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2014, 11:06:19 AM »
Not just okay, a tour is demanded, including comments on how it played back then vs. now.
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Bill_McBride

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« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2014, 04:14:39 PM »
Was there a sprinkler system?  I think I recall from the talk I asked you to give at the Bandon Kings Putter, that the answer is no. It must have been tough to keep approaches on those tiny greens if ultra firm, so I'm guessing you were a great chipper. 

Mike Hendren

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« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2014, 04:34:58 PM »
Bill, still no irrigation.  6 of the 9 holes were approached with wedges back when I had game.  Otherwise the play was often to take one less club and plan on the one-hopper.  Either that or carry the ball barely onto the front edge. In between was the frustrating shot as any ball landing into the slight front banks invariably hopped straight up and rolled back down.  Front pins were brutal and as I'll show soon long was death.

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