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Pete_Pittock

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Re: The HESKETH Five And Hitler Trophy
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2013, 10:52:45 PM »
Never played Wallasley or Formby. IMO behind Hillside, even with S&A. I did catch Hesketh on a calm day, so the middle of the course was minus it's main defense of the wind. Sean has it about right, and not suprisingly, the best holes are on the oldest (and best terrained) part of the course

Adam Lawrence

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Re: The HESKETH Five And Hitler Trophy
« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2013, 02:37:21 AM »
This Tom Simpson is not the one that designed Morfontaine, NZ, etc. remember _that_ Simpson was a gentleman amateur and in the habit of turning up to site visits in a chauffeur driven Rolls-Royce!
Adam Lawrence

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Rich Goodale

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Re: The HESKETH Five And Hitler Trophy
« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2013, 03:51:23 AM »
Pete, Bill and Adam

I think that the pro at Hesketh 1920-1930 was a Tim Simpson, not The Tom.
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Pete_Pittock

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Re: The HESKETH Five And Hitler Trophy
« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2013, 12:04:07 PM »
Pete, Bill and Adam

I think that the pro at Hesketh 1920-1930 was a Tim Simpson, not The Tom.

Rich,
I skimmed through my club history of Hesketh and all references to the Professional from 1920-1930 was Tom Simpson. Never as Tim.
This is not to say that it was a different Tom Simpson.

Adam Lawrence

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Re: The HESKETH Five And Hitler Trophy
« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2013, 12:14:54 PM »
Pete, Bill and Adam

I think that the pro at Hesketh 1920-1930 was a Tim Simpson, not The Tom.

Rich,
I skimmed through my club history of Hesketh and all references to the Professional from 1920-1930 was Tom Simpson. Never as Tim.
This is not to say that it was a different Tom Simpson.

Peter - it definitely is not Tom Simpson the golf architect - as discussed earlier, that Simpson was _very definitely_ not a professional golfer :)

Adam
Adam Lawrence

Editor, Golf Course Architecture
www.golfcoursearchitecture.net

Principal, Oxford Golf Consulting
www.oxfordgolfconsulting.com

Author, 'More Enduring Than Brass: a biography of Harry Colt' (forthcoming).

Short words are best, and the old words, when short, are the best of all.

Rich Goodale

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Re: The HESKETH Five And Hitler Trophy
« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2013, 12:23:50 PM »
http://www.clubsofdistinction.com/hitcup/hitessay.htm

This is my only piece of evidence, Peter.  It, like Pat Mucci, could be wrong.....
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Pete_Pittock

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Re: The HESKETH Five And Hitler Trophy
« Reply #31 on: August 21, 2013, 02:50:41 PM »
http://www.clubsofdistinction.com/hitcup/hitessay.htm

This is my only piece of evidence, Peter.  It, like Pat Mucci, could be wrong.....

So we have two sources from Hesketh who disgaree. In either case it is not the famous golf architect.

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