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Sean_A

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Re: Nottingham by the Sea: SEACROFT GC (2012/13 Winter Tour)
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2013, 03:15:14 PM »
Yes Boony, thanks for the pix. 

I wish 18 green came earlier in the round.  It seems too late to leave such an excellent green, especially on the end of an average hole. 

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David Davis

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Re: Nottingham by the Sea: SEACROFT GC (2012/13 Winter Tour)
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2013, 07:00:12 PM »
Sean, back to your post, no you are a great partner. I'd take you any day of the week lucky or not. In fact, better lucky.

I think the two of us with our double digit hcps might be tough to beat as a team.

Long as I don't have to play against you.
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John Mayhugh

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Re: Nottingham by the Sea: SEACROFT GC (2012/13 Winter Tour)
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2013, 10:19:47 PM »
I'm even more sorry that I had to miss out on Seacroft.  I'll make up for that one of these days.

Ben Stephens

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Re: Nottingham by the Sea: SEACROFT GC (2012/13 Winter Tour)
« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2020, 02:28:49 AM »

Clyde


you seem to have come under the radar and I picked this up on the club new website that I have not seen before with your masterplan proposals for the club produced in 2018

http://www.seacroft-golfclub.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Seacroft-Masterplan-June-2018.pdf


Looking forward to read this proper when I have time and I know this is a hidden gem which can be a lot better having played there in many winter pro-ams in the past. One year I hit into someones back garden off the 2nd tee and managed to retrieve my ball  ;D


Cheers
Ben

John Mayhugh

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Re: Nottingham by the Sea: SEACROFT GC 2012-13 Winter Tour
« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2020, 12:39:22 PM »
Ben,

It's been a treat reading through this plan. Although I've not managed to visit Seacroft (had to go home early in 2013), the proposed work sure looks thoughtful and uses a "light hand" approach. It's a compelling & educational plan.

The club is ok with it being posted on GCA?

Ben Stephens

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Re: Nottingham by the Sea: SEACROFT GC 2012-13 Winter Tour
« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2020, 03:28:25 AM »
Ben,

It's been a treat reading through this plan. Although I've not managed to visit Seacroft (had to go home early in 2013), the proposed work sure looks thoughtful and uses a "light hand" approach. It's a compelling & educational plan.

The club is ok with it being posted on GCA?


If the club is ok to have this masterplan on their website surely the link I have put on GCA is ok


You must go to Seacroft and I would recommend Sleaford as well as Woodhall Spa if you want to play three courses in this vicinity of the land as flat as a pancake :)

Clyde Johnson

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Re: Nottingham by the Sea: SEACROFT GC 2012-13 Winter Tour
« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2020, 07:25:06 AM »
A few construction/grow-in pictures for anyone interested. We've tackled six holes - 6 thru 11 - over the past couple of winters, moving through things pretty quickly on a very lean budget. There are still some fairway adjustments/expansions to keep pushing for on those holes, and a couple of bunkers I'd like to take another look at. Seacroft is a modest club, but one with a proud history and a very good course featuring three or four exceptional holes. 





No.6: Short-four. The bunkers have been reconfigured and the green mown on more of an angle - inspired by a 1950s plan by Ken Cotton. There's a slight ridge between the two right-fairway bunkers that opens up the majority of hole locations; lost fo room to the left, but a tight approach down the prevailing wind. With the half-way hut behind the green now relocated, there is a fine mid-range backdrop.





There's now a bit more room to feed a drive onto the green for those long enough, though the cross bunkers are relatively punishing.





No.8: Sand climbs up the face for the dune, to restore some visual drama. The right side of the dune shoulder has been manipulated to provide a glimpse of the flag for those that hug the boundary, and to spread foot-traffic.





No.11: Bunkering on this long-five was previously uninspired, running down both flanks of the hole. Two new bunkers peaking into a slight ridge protect the ideal pocket from which to approach a beautiful green that falls away...especially now that the front-right bunker edges a cross its front corner.
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John Mayhugh

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Re: Nottingham by the Sea: SEACROFT GC 2012-13 Winter Tour
« Reply #32 on: June 03, 2020, 07:41:27 AM »
Ben,
Sorry for the dumb question. I completely overlooked the link URL...  I have played Woodhall Spa but am keen to return to see the recent work there.


Clyde,
Thanks for the photos and update. Fun comparing these to the masterplan.

Sean_A

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Re: Nottingham by the Sea: SEACROFT GC 2012-13 Winter Tour
« Reply #33 on: June 03, 2020, 04:01:37 PM »
Clyde

Thanks for the update...and please keep em' coming.

Looking back, even with terrible pix there looks to be quite a bit of character.  I think a place like Seacroft supports my view that nearly any real links is worth at least a 5 on the Doak scale.  Its easy for a Seacroft to get lost in all the flash of the big media darlings.  I was anxiously awaiting a return trip to Seacale over Easter, but alas...Who knows, maybe the trip will be rescheduled for the fall.

Ciao
« Last Edit: June 03, 2020, 04:03:14 PM by Sean_A »
New plays planned for 2024: Ashridge, Kennemer, de Pan, Blackmoor, Eindhoven, Hilversumche, Royal Ostend, Winterfield & Alnmouth

Sean_A

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Re: Nottingham by the Sea: SEACROFT GC 2012-13 Winter Tour
« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2021, 04:09:23 AM »
I just listened to Clyde on the NCG podcast. Very intriguing. Any photos of recent changes?

Ciao
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Nottingham by the Sea: SEACROFT GC 2012-13 Winter Tour
« Reply #35 on: May 28, 2021, 05:08:52 AM »
Thanks for the Podcast tip Sean. A “very fine” listen.
And well done to Clyde too.
Atb

Clyde Johnson

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Re: Nottingham by the Sea: SEACROFT GC 2012-13 Winter Tour
« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2021, 06:10:55 PM »
I just listened to Clyde on the NCG podcast. Very intriguing. Any photos of recent changes?

Ciao


Sean,


I played a few holes at Seacroft tonight, though most of these pics are from April:


Hole 6 - Probably my favourite change, based on a drawing from Ken Cotton in the 1960s. The green angles a little more from front-right to back-left now, with the cross-bunkers a little tighter to the front. The bunker in the knoll on the right has been filled-in, and the slot left of that widened and held-up a bit to give an aggressive drive a chance of getting on. There's now a whole bunch of room on the left, but the best angle in, a ridge to the right, is defended by another bunker (short, out of shot.) I really like how the hole looks now - the shed behind the green has gone, and a bunch of buckthorn cleared down the length of the 15th.







Hole 9 - I've added a few bigger pockets of naturalised sand across the course, but only in larger landforms, where it would make sense. This one is taken from a Harry Rowntree painting in Darwin's book.







Hole 11 - The tedious flanking bunkers have been done away with. A pair of pretty small pots on the angle now defend a ridge/saddle from which you will find the ideal angle to pitch down the rippling, fall-away green...especially now the front-right bunker eats a couple more feet across its front.







Hole 14 - There was some re-contouring/naturalisation of the carry to make the tee-shot a little more dramatic. Pictured, a couple of award little pots have been replaced by something that sits a little tighter to the green, with a run-off behind...there's room to edge out the green in behind this too. You can now see from the 13th green through to the 16th green...it's a compelling look.




Hole 16 - The tees have gone tight to the fence on this one, which now makes for a tricky and tempting drive. As a bonus, with the old tee re-naturalised, a miss-left of the ridge top 3rd will finish much further beneath the green. 

The most controversial of any of the works will be the 16th green!! There used to be a funky hollow in the front of this, which was talked about a fair bit by older members, the committee etc. - I found the old level, and broadened it out to get a narrow line of pins. It will confound the unimaginative golfer when the flag is down there, but I particularly like what it does to the hole locations around it's upper edge. There's sea views from this green now, too.




It's a long term, (very) low budget program, but they're slowly capturing the full potential of what is a really nice set of links greens...and pushing the fairways out too.
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Nottingham by the Sea: SEACROFT GC 2012-13 Winter Tour
« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2021, 03:44:17 AM »
Thanks for the photos and the narrative Clyde.
Not somewhere I know but it looks pretty cool and the 16th green looks decidedly special.
atb

John Mayhugh

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Re: Nottingham by the Sea: SEACROFT GC 2012-13 Winter Tour
« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2021, 07:25:06 AM »
Clyde,
Thanks for these pics and description of the work. Restoring the hollow to the 16th green is the type of thing that can really increase memorability of the course - and add some fun. I really hope to see it in the next couple of years.

Sean_A

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Re: Nottingham by the Sea: SEACROFT GC 2012-13 Winter Tour
« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2021, 04:16:29 AM »
Clyde,
Thanks for these pics and description of the work. Restoring the hollow to the 16th green is the type of thing that can really increase memorability of the course - and add some fun. I really hope to see it in the next couple of years.

Yes, just adding my appreciation for the photos. I need to make a return visit. When do you think the work will be finished?

Ciao
New plays planned for 2024: Ashridge, Kennemer, de Pan, Blackmoor, Eindhoven, Hilversumche, Royal Ostend, Winterfield & Alnmouth

Sean_A

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Re: Nottingham by the Sea: SEACROFT GC
« Reply #40 on: May 04, 2022, 04:58:49 PM »
I had the good fortune to revisit Seacroft for the first time since 2013. I must say the course impresses me and the changes are for the most part very positive. In earnest Seacroft isn't too far from top 100 GB&I in my book. Please see the extensively updated tour, albeit with some dubious light.

Ciao
New plays planned for 2024: Ashridge, Kennemer, de Pan, Blackmoor, Eindhoven, Hilversumche, Royal Ostend, Winterfield & Alnmouth

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