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In the spirit of the anti-snobbery thread, this thread gives me heart and hope for this board. Imagine 2000 hits for a muni in Gloucestershire! ThomasAll four courses are a fairly tough walk. I think Kington's is managed the best because the front 9 climbs while the back 9 descends. The other three involve up n' down, up n' down....That said, all are walkable especially with a battery trolley. In fact, they are more walkable (perhaps partly because of the great scenery) than many a modern design.NeilI am glad you liked the Cleeve Cloud. Lets plan to get back soon.Ciao
I am told Doak stopped by this winter...lets hope he chips in.
Quote from: Sean_A on April 26, 2016, 01:24:26 PMI am told Doak stopped by this winter...lets hope he chips in.Sean:Yes, Clyde Johnson and I stopped through Cleeve on our way from Pennard to Woodhall Spa in January, which is not the easiest of drives. The days were so short, and Huw at Pennard went on talking for so long after lunch, that we only had about a half hour of light to go out for a quick walk to the top of the hill and back ... and many of the fairways were a bit frosty as well.So, we only got to see the first few holes and the 17th and 18th. I must say that it's impossible for the photos here to capture the scale of the hills at Cleeve -- they are way bigger than I imagined, to the point that I can't say I have seen another course on similar land. Wish I'd seen it before my book was complete. Can't wait to go back and play it whenever I am next in the vicinity.
AdrianFirst we have the rumour that Old Tom was involved, but later generations can't find any information. Yet itís interesting that this statement was issued in the last few years re OTM and no proof.The Golfers Guide has been rather realisable to date, albeit published 4 years after the event. Yet we have the newspaper article clearly stating his return from Cheltenham in April 1891 the month after the club was formed. Also interesting is the comment about Davie Brown's brother being the Green Keeper. So we have three things putting OTM at Cheltenham, two in writing and one printed a few days after his return. As for any holes left, I just do not know.Had it just been the rumour then there are grounds to dismiss it out of hand but two separate reports one published at the time in a National newspaper, make it more believable. But as I said you can take it or leave it.Melvyn
SeanThat would be a tragedy, so I hope that your information is wrong.