[Jason Topp]

I have experienced most of the gamut in my last 10 away rounds:

Minnesota Valley (5)
U of Minnesota (3)
Texas Star (6)
Santa Teresa (3)
Iberostar Cancun (2)
Glenmoor (I cannot think of a better definition of a 0)
Common Ground (6)
Chileno Bay (7)
Diamante Dunes (8 )
Cabo Del Sol Ocean (8 )

[MCirba]

Tom,

It's fully deserving and I believe I would tell the designer why in person unflinchingly. 

Bogey,

Yes...sadly the greens on the Banks were closed due some winter kill.  I did salivate passing by some of those holes.

Sean,

You may want to work on a cross reference table and yes I've been playing some really poor architecture as of late.  But...it's golf and I'll enjoy the good and great ones all the better.

[Trey Kemp]

My last 10:

The Course at Sewanee - Sewanee, TN
Lookout Mountain - Lookout Mountain, GA
Sweetens Cove - S. Pittsburg, TN
Holston Hills - Knoxville, TN
Quail Crossing - Boonville, IN
Victoria National - Newburgh, IN
Stevens Park  - Dallas, TX
The Tribute - The Colony, TX
Austin Golf Club - Spicewood, TX
Cascata - Boulder City, NV

[Jeff Fortson]

Escena GC
Tahquitz Creek - Legend
Tahquitz Creek - Resort
Indian Ridge - Arroyo
The Plantation
Olympic - Ocean
Olympic - Lake
Santa Ana CC
The Palms
Goose Creek

[JBovay]

Royal Aberdeen (UK) 8
Cruden Bay (UK) 7
East Potomac Park Blue (DC) 2
Ballyhack (VA) 7
Yale (CT, new home course) 8
Royal New Kent (VA) 5
Vista Links (VA, onetime home course) 5
Little Bennett (MD) 4
Lone Palm (FL) 3
Connecticut National 4

[GLawson]

Would Ballyhack be ranked higher if you didn't need a cart?

[Zack Molnar]

My latest 10 with my personal Doak rating:

Camargo (OH) 8
Seminole (FL) 10
Milwaukee CC (WI) 8
Blackwolf Run (WI) 6
Whistling Straits (WI) 8
Pasatiempo (CA) 9
Kapalua (HI) 7
Lawsonia (WI) 9
Forest Dunes (MI) 7
Arcadia Bluffs (MI) 7

[JBovay]

GL -

Good question. I usually take off a point if it's a borderline rating and carts are required. Ballyhack is a special case because the terrain that makes carts a necessity makes the course so uniquely exciting and fun and beautiful, and also because Lester did a great job of minimizing walks between holes. It would be hard to consider the course in the abstract without that extreme terrain and the need to carry chasms like on 1, 11, and 17 and then take carts around them. But the short answer is that I did not deduct a point here because carts are necessary.

JB

[GLawson]

Good stuff, JB.  Thanks for the insight.  I'm originally from Roanoke and playing in September for the first time.  Looking forward to it!

[JBovay]

You're going to love it, GL. I spent about five years in the Valley of Virginia, and greatly anticipated playing Ballyhack for about a year and a half after reading Ran's profile. To see such a bold, strategic golf course on the landscape I love was a dream come true, and it lived up to or exceeded my expectations in every way. The George Cup is a really fun event with a great group of guys, too.

[MCirba]

I hope I started a trend by applying my own Doak Scale ratings and it's good to see others opinions. I particularly enjoyed seeing Jason's 6 for Texas Star which I'm in agreement with.

I hope Tom doesn't mind.

[Mark Saltzman]

CC of Little Rock, AR
Alotian, AR
Spring Creek Ranch, TN
Memphis CC, TN
Bellerive CC, MO
Boone Valley, MO
CC of St Albans (Lewis & Clark), MO
CC of St Albans (Tavern Creek), MO
St Louis CC, MO
Seminole, FL

[JMEvensky]

CC of Little Rock, AR
Alotian, AR
Spring Creek Ranch, TN
Memphis CC, TN
Bellerive CC, MO
Boone Valley, MO
CC of St Albans (Lewis & Clark), MO
CC of St Albans (Tavern Creek), MO
St Louis CC, MO
Seminole, FL

How did you like SCR and Memphis CC?

[David Amarnek]

Mark,
Glad your other St. Louis area rounds didn't get washed out.
What were your impressions of those courses?
David

[Cort Sylvester]

The new guy's last 10: 

Midland Hills, MN
Wild Rock, WI
Lawsonia (Links), WI
Southern Hills, MN
Rio Secco, NV
Royal Links, NV
Coyote Springs, NV
Talking Stick (North), AZ
Streamsong (Red), FL
Streamsong (Blue), FL

And I think the 11th back is Northland. 

[Patrick Glynn]

Been an interesting month - combination of California & Irish links golf.

In reverse chronological order with Wilshire being the surprise package - my interpretation of Doak Scale in parenthesis.

Lahinch (9)
The Island ( 
Portmarnock (
Bel-Air (6)
Wilshire (7)
LACC North (9)
Valley Club (7)
CPC (10)
MPCC Shore (7)
Cal Club (9)

[Dan Moore]

Nice list Patrick. Meet me in Arizona next time.

Mine in order from most recent to oldest.

Glen Club
Harborside Port
Olympia Fields South
Strawberry Creek
Spring Valley
Harrison Hills
Royal St. Georges (36 holes foursomes with lunch)!!
Canterbury
Rye
Royal Liverpool

[Mac Plumart]

Dismal River Red
Dismal River White
Colorado Golf Club
East Lake
Rivermont
The Golf Club
The Presidio
Prairie Dunes
Southern Hills
Peachtree

[Steve Wilson]

Traigh
Golspie
Isle of Harris
Askernish
The Machrie
Dunaverty
Machrihanish
Gigha
Preston Country Club
Clarksburg Country Club

I two days I'll knock Preston and Clarksburg off with Prestwick and Western Gailes, and I'm looking to see if Killin is doable on Friday.

[Shane Wright]

Southview CC - MN
Country Club of Leawood - KS
Shinnecock Hills - NY
Southampton CC - NY
Wolf Point - TX
Woodhill CC - MN
Town and Country - MN
Highland National - MN
Mendakota CC - MN
Midland Hills CC - MN

[JStewart]

First post .. I guess this is a good place to start.

Club at Mediterra (North)
Bonita Bay (Cypress)
Twin Eagles (Talon)
Old Corkscrew GC
Naples Grande GC
Calusa Pines GC
TPC Stonebrae
Half Moon Bay (Ocean)
Oakland Hills CC (South)
Oakland Hills CC (North)

[Mac Plumart]

JStewart...

Any pleasant surprises in that mix?

[Tom_Doak]

I hope I started a trend by applying my own Doak Scale ratings and it's good to see others opinions. I particularly enjoyed seeing Jason's 6 for Texas Star which I'm in agreement with.

I hope Tom doesn't mind.

Mike:

I don't mind a bit.  In fact, I wish more people would do this.  It provides some real information to the thread, instead of just showing off where someone has been; and it also provides some real information about the reporter, and whether I should trust his or her ratings in the future. 

Unfortunately, you seem to have jinxed it, as no one has posted any 0-10 ratings since your post.  So, I will start, with a report from my trip last week [the last one for Volume 2 of The Confidential Guide].  Note that I did not play all of these courses, as there was a LOT of rain in the area last week:

Camargo Club - 7 or 8, I still have a year to decide this one
Diamante, AR - 5
Hot Springs (Arlington) - 6
Hot Springs (Park) - 4
Texarkana - 5
Cedar Ridge, OK - 4
Hillcrest CC, Bartlesville, OK - 5
Karsten Creek - 7
Twin Hills, OKC - 5
Oklahoma City G & CC - 6

[MCirba]

Tom,

Thanks, and you may note that I have since played Willie Park's Berkshire in Reading, PA for a second time this past weekend and have revised my score upwards to a 6.

Joe Bausch started a photo thread on our visit yesterday.   It's arguably the biggest surprise in the Philadelphia area where I've lived for the past 30 years.   Until this year I never played there and we were blown away.   The scary part is that with some additional tree removal and a return to some of the wild original bunkering schemes it could get even better.   

[JStewart]

I don't mind a bit.  In fact, I wish more people would do this.  It provides some real information to the thread, instead of just showing off where someone has been; and it also provides some real information about the reporter, and whether I should trust his or her ratings in the future. 

Unfortunately, you seem to have jinxed it, as no one has posted any 0-10 ratings since your post.  So, I will start, with a report from my trip last week [the last one for Volume 2 of The Confidential Guide].  Note that I did not play all of these courses, as there was a LOT of rain in the area last week:

Tom (or anyone else), care to explain the "Doak Scale" to a newbie?

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