Your Last Ten

[Tim Martin]

Bay Club at Mattapoisett

Tim - what did you think of the Bay Club? Used to play it often w/ an old member . There were some very solid holes out there but some routing challenges.

John-It was a lot of fun to play and in great condition. I agree there are some routing issues with a handful of long green to tee transitions making a cart a must to get the most enjoyment out of the round. There are some very good holes as you mentioned carved out of a densely wooded area which features an out and back design. It’s one I would like to play again for sure.

[Steven Wade]

Last 10:


Phila. Cricket - St. Martins
Phila. Cricket - Wissahickon
Stonewall - North
Stonewall - Old
Phila. Cricket - Militia Hill
Pine Valley
Atlanta Athletic Club - Highlands
Peachtree Golf Club
Gulph Mills
Merion


Obviously pretty Philly heavy, hoping to get away next month. It’s 100° here today, I wish I was getting away today.

[Jared McKiernan]

Old Barnwell
Mimosa Hills
Catawba CC
Gullane #2
Gullane #3
Carnoustie
Panmure
Elie
Old Course
Kingsbarns

[MCirba]

"Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!" 

Jeffersonville - PA
Bellewood - PA
Monroe (9) - NY*
Troy - NY
Mohonk (9) - NY*
Mark Twain - NY
Hidden Creek - NJ
Newark - DE
Berkleigh - PA
Pinecroft (9) - PA*


* - First Time Play

[Tim Martin]

"Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!" 

Jeffersonville - PA
Bellewood - PA
Monroe (9) - NY*
Troy - NY
Mohonk (9) - NY*
Mark Twain - NY
Hidden Creek - NJ
Newark - DE
Berkleigh - PA
Pinecroft (9) - PA*


* - First Time Play

Mike-How was Monroe? Thanks!

[Peter Bowman]

With only a vague understanding of the Doak Score system, here's my inputs

Hooper GC 7
Granliden 5
Northfield 5
Brattleboro 5
Grassmere 3
Lake Powell National 4
Talking Stick O'Odham 6
Troon North 6
Terras da Comporta, Dunas (Portugal) 7 (points lost for not easily walkable)
Troia Golf (Portugal) 5

Upcoming in July:

Cape Arundel 7 (played before)
Utrecht Golf De Pan
Royal Hague
Golf Meggen

Other potential:

Boston GC 7 or 8
Eastward Ho!
Essex CC

[MCirba]

"Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!" 

Jeffersonville - PA
Bellewood - PA
Monroe (9) - NY*
Troy - NY
Mohonk (9) - NY*
Mark Twain - NY
Hidden Creek - NJ
Newark - DE
Berkleigh - PA
Pinecroft (9) - PA*


* - First Time Play

Mike-How was Monroe? Thanks!

Tim,


Hard to fully assess as William Flynn was asked to design nine holes on a rather constricted property.  Today the course is run as a low-budget semi-private and the day I played it was super-saturated from our normal weekly tsunami of storms from the climate change hoax we've been somehow still experiencing.


Some cool holes and greens but probably a Doak Scale 3, at best.

[MCirba]

I've decided to add my Doak Scale score to each of my last ten. 


Your mileage may vary.


Jeffersonville (PA) - 6.5
Bellewood (PA) - 6
Monroe (9) (NY) - 2.5
Troy (NY) - 6.5
Mohonk (9) (NY) - 2.5
Mark Twain (NY) - 5.5
Hidden Creek (NJ) - 7
Newark (DE) - 3.5
Berkleigh (PA) - 5
Pinecroft (9) (PA) - 2

[Sean_A]

Old Barnwell
Mimosa Hills
Catawba CC
Gullane #2
Gullane #3
Carnoustie
Panmure
Elie
Old Course
Kingsbarns

Mimosa Hills…I have a lot of time for that place.


Ciao

[Brian Finn]

Old Barnwell
Mimosa Hills
Catawba CC
Gullane #2
Gullane #3
Carnoustie
Panmure
Elie
Old Course
Kingsbarns

Mimosa Hills…I have a lot of time for that place.

Ciao

Yes, Mimosa Hills is great.  Jared has great taste in golf clubs!

My last 10 includes a pretty wide range of quality, all in the Carolinas:

CC of Salisbury 5.5
Bryan Park Champions 4.5
Old Barnwell 9.0
Kids Course at OB 10,000
Aiken GC 5.0
Ocean Ridge - Panthers Run 2.5
Ocean Ridge - Lions Paw 2.5
Fort Mill GC 4.5
Cabarrus CC 5.0
Mimosa Hills 6.0

[Joe_Tucholski]

Cleeve Hill
Royal St. Davids
County Louth
Callan
Carne - Hackett
Carne - Wild Atlantic
Llanerch
Laurel Hill
Lake Presidential
Columbia CC


My first couple of overseas trips were filled with lots of driving and a new course each day (sometimes 2 or 3).  Now the trips are one course for a week or so with one or two others on arrival/departure.  Looking back on my first overseas trip with 60 rounds in 30 days I'm not sure how I did it (or how my wife tolerated it).

[Chris_Blakely]

Black Creek Ellabell, GA
Sapelo Hammock Townsend, GA
Chautauqua - Hill Chautauqua, NY
Downing Erie, PA
The Park West - Par 3 West Palm Beach, FL
The Park West West Palm Beach, FL
The Florida GC Stuart, FL
Stillmeadow Cincinnati, OH
Aiken Aiken, SC
Fyre Lake Sherrard, IL

Chris - would like to hear your thoughts or opinion of The Florida Club in Stuart. I play it often as I have a house in northern Palm Beach County, and that’s the course the guys in my development like to play the most.  Specifically what do you think of the 18th hole

Mike,

  I enjoyed the 18th hole and the exacting nature of the tee shot.  Which I positioned correctly, but did not on my second!  I can see this hole being very polarizing.


Chris

it is a polarizing hole. What do you view to be a perfect drive - trying to hit the small neck area on the left side of the fairway or pushing the ball out to the right leaving yourself a better angle into the green?


after about playing 20 times I’ve concluded the correct drive is to be on the right side of the fairway which allows you to hit it further but have a good angle into the green. I’ve given up on trying to hit that small area in the neck between the woods and the water

Mike,


After my ONE play, what I believed to be the perfect or ideal drive was to drive the ball as far as possible to the end of the landing zone just to the right of the hazard leaving me the best approach for my typical ball flight / allowing me to fade the ball into the green.  So I guess I amazingly hit that small zone between the woods and the water, but failed on the easier iron shot into the green.  Wouldn't say I loved or hated the hole; however, it was definitely a tester to finish the round!  I think that's a good thing.


Chris

[Chris_Blakely]

"Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!" 

Jeffersonville - PA
Bellewood - PA
Monroe (9) - NY*
Troy - NY
Mohonk (9) - NY*
Mark Twain - NY
Hidden Creek - NJ
Newark - DE
Berkleigh - PA
Pinecroft (9) - PA*


* - First Time Play

Mike,


I have to say I erroneously assumed, I would be the only one on this board to have played Pinecroft PA, well done!!  What did you think of Mohonk Mountain House's Golf Course?  Did you play any of the other older courses in the area (are they still there)??


Chris

[MCirba]

"Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!" 

Jeffersonville - PA
Bellewood - PA
Monroe (9) - NY*
Troy - NY
Mohonk (9) - NY*
Mark Twain - NY
Hidden Creek - NJ
Newark - DE
Berkleigh - PA
Pinecroft (9) - PA*


* - First Time Play

Mike,


I have to say I erroneously assumed, I would be the only one on this board to have played Pinecroft PA, well done!!  What did you think of Mohonk Mountain House's Golf Course?  Did you play any of the other older courses in the area (are they still there)??


Chris

Chris,


And if anyone else on this board had played Pinecroft I'd figure it was you!       I was just there this past Saturday afternoon for nine holes in between family stuff as we bought a house recently about 25 mins away in Horseheads, NY.   Reminded me of the modest, family-oriented courses I grew up playing in NE PA.


Mohonk was a hoot and my quirkmeter was pegging at 11!   Of course, knowing not everyone shares my taste for frankly weird golf holes and historic ramblings I couldn't give it more than a 2.5 on the Doak Scale but it's probably a 5 or 6 on the fun-meter.  No one would ever consider building holes like that today, that's for sure.


I've played a few nine-hole courses in that area and have some others planned.   The best and biggest surprise was Twaalfskill which was built in 1902 yet it's a legit Doak Scale 5, easily.   Rip Van Winkle is a bit flat, but some low-key, Ross-ian fun.   Last year Mike Worth and I played Twaalfskill, Innes, and Sullivan County (now run by Tom Coyne) in one day, and are planning something similar next time he's back up in his hometown.


Courses under consideration include Dutcher, Hotchkiss School, Dinsmore, and Dutchess, and possibly something near Poughkeepsie like College Hill or Vassar.   Oh, and I'm dying to get to Copake, no matter who designed it.  Ditto McGregor Links.

[Mike Worth]

Chris Blakely -  Re: Florida Club 18 - i’m not sure the iron shot from the tiny landing area in between the woods and the lake is an easier shot. The best that could be said is that it’s 10 to 15 yard shorter than the other approach but that doesn’t make it better


The thing that’s weird about putting the ball in the best spot on the right side of the fairway is you have to play a pretty big slice to get it over there. Then even with a well place drive as far up that fairway as you want to risk it, one is still left with 180 yards into the green.

[Mike Worth]

I've decided to add my Doak Scale score to each of my last ten. 

I opted to not add Doak scale scores to my last 10. If I had, Royal Worlington would have been a 6.5 and I’m sure that would’ve triggered a food fight lol.

[Mike Worth]

I've played a few nine-hole courses in that area and have some others planned.   The best and biggest surprise was Twaalfskill which was built in 1902 yet it's a legit Doak Scale 5, easily.   Rip Van Winkle is a bit flat, but some low-key, Ross-ian fun.   Last year Mike Worth and I played Twaalfskill, Inness, and Sullivan County (now run by Tom Coyne) in one day, and are planning something similar next time he's back up in his hometown.


Courses under consideration include Dutcher, Hotchkiss School, Dinsmore, and Dutchess, and possibly something near Poughkeepsie like College Hill or Vassar.   Oh, and I'm dying to get to Copake, no matter who designed it.  Ditto McGregor Links.

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Mike, looking at the list, I would do Hotchkiss and Copake as a 27 hole day with not too much driving in between. 


My dance card is filling up so this may not happen until late September.  All of a sudden, I learned I may be playing Naval Academy, The Creek, Meadow Brook, Atlantic City, and Philly Cricket -- all before summer's end.  From 10-20 Sep I'm playing in Scotland - Boat of Garten, Royal Dornoch (both courses), Tain, Portmahomack, Nairn, Old Petty, Castle Stuart, Moray (perhaps both courses), and Blairgowrie.  With that lineup, Dinsmore, Dutchers, and Dutchess aren't as appealing as Hotchkiss and Copake.  Question -- is Copake an Emmett?


I'm in my hometown in the Catskills by Hunter Mountain this Sunday-Monday and no other trips planned -not that I won't make one but none planned.  If I play golf at all this trip, it will be at Colonial CC - the public course in Tannersville, NY. 


I see from another post you have a home in upstate NY now.

[Mike Hendren]

Mike, your 6.5 rating for CC of Troy is spot on in my book.  The Old Man could flat out build some stellar greens. 

[MCirba]

Mike, your 6.5 rating for CC of Troy is spot on in my book.  The Old Man could flat out build some stellar greens.

Thanks, Mike! 


Almost unique in that respect although Mac at NGLA and some of Perry Maxwell's stuff is in that discussion.

[Ian Galbraith]

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[Chris_Blakely]

"Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!" 

Jeffersonville - PA
Bellewood - PA
Monroe (9) - NY*
Troy - NY
Mohonk (9) - NY*
Mark Twain - NY
Hidden Creek - NJ
Newark - DE
Berkleigh - PA
Pinecroft (9) - PA*


* - First Time Play

Mike,


I have to say I erroneously assumed, I would be the only one on this board to have played Pinecroft PA, well done!!  What did you think of Mohonk Mountain House's Golf Course?  Did you play any of the other older courses in the area (are they still there)??


Chris

Chris,


And if anyone else on this board had played Pinecroft I'd figure it was you!       I was just there this past Saturday afternoon for nine holes in between family stuff as we bought a house recently about 25 mins away in Horseheads, NY.   Reminded me of the modest, family-oriented courses I grew up playing in NE PA.


Mohonk was a hoot and my quirkmeter was pegging at 11!   Of course, knowing not everyone shares my taste for frankly weird golf holes and historic ramblings I couldn't give it more than a 2.5 on the Doak Scale but it's probably a 5 or 6 on the fun-meter.  No one would ever consider building holes like that today, that's for sure.


I've played a few nine-hole courses in that area and have some others planned.   The best and biggest surprise was Twaalfskill which was built in 1902 yet it's a legit Doak Scale 5, easily.   Rip Van Winkle is a bit flat, but some low-key, Ross-ian fun.   Last year Mike Worth and I played Twaalfskill, Innes, and Sullivan County (now run by Tom Coyne) in one day, and are planning something similar next time he's back up in his hometown.


Courses under consideration include Dutcher, Hotchkiss School, Dinsmore, and Dutchess, and possibly something near Poughkeepsie like College Hill or Vassar.   Oh, and I'm dying to get to Copake, no matter who designed it.  Ditto McGregor Links.

If Copake isn't Devereux Emmet then I guess I haven't played all but 5 of his courses!!


Chris

[Tim Martin]

"Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!" 

Jeffersonville - PA
Bellewood - PA
Monroe (9) - NY*
Troy - NY
Mohonk (9) - NY*
Mark Twain - NY
Hidden Creek - NJ
Newark - DE
Berkleigh - PA
Pinecroft (9) - PA*


* - First Time Play

Mike,


I have to say I erroneously assumed, I would be the only one on this board to have played Pinecroft PA, well done!!  What did you think of Mohonk Mountain House's Golf Course?  Did you play any of the other older courses in the area (are they still there)??

Courses under consideration include Dutcher, Hotchkiss School, Dinsmore, and Dutchess, and possibly something near Poughkeepsie like College Hill or Vassar.   Oh, and I'm dying to get to Copake, no matter who designed it.  Ditto McGregor Links.

Mike-I don’t know if you ever made the trip up to play Pehquenaconck and Vails Grove but they are worth a look and you could add Dutcher and easily pick off all three in a day. Quirk on full display across the board.

[MCirba]

"Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!" 

Jeffersonville - PA
Bellewood - PA
Monroe (9) - NY*
Troy - NY
Mohonk (9) - NY*
Mark Twain - NY
Hidden Creek - NJ
Newark - DE
Berkleigh - PA
Pinecroft (9) - PA*


* - First Time Play

Mike,


I have to say I erroneously assumed, I would be the only one on this board to have played Pinecroft PA, well done!!  What did you think of Mohonk Mountain House's Golf Course?  Did you play any of the other older courses in the area (are they still there)??

Courses under consideration include Dutcher, Hotchkiss School, Dinsmore, and Dutchess, and possibly something near Poughkeepsie like College Hill or Vassar.   Oh, and I'm dying to get to Copake, no matter who designed it.  Ditto McGregor Links.

Mike-I don’t know if you ever made the trip up to play Pehquenaconck and Vails Grove but they are worth a look and you could add Dutcher and easily pick off all three in a day. Quirk on full display across the board.

Tim,


I'm all over that, even if I have to fly solo.   Course names with 9 or more consonants are always intriguing.   


Thanks!

[MCirba]

"Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!" 

Jeffersonville - PA
Bellewood - PA
Monroe (9) - NY*
Troy - NY
Mohonk (9) - NY*
Mark Twain - NY
Hidden Creek - NJ
Newark - DE
Berkleigh - PA
Pinecroft (9) - PA*


* - First Time Play

Mike,


I have to say I erroneously assumed, I would be the only one on this board to have played Pinecroft PA, well done!!  What did you think of Mohonk Mountain House's Golf Course?  Did you play any of the other older courses in the area (are they still there)??


Chris

Chris,


And if anyone else on this board had played Pinecroft I'd figure it was you!       I was just there this past Saturday afternoon for nine holes in between family stuff as we bought a house recently about 25 mins away in Horseheads, NY.   Reminded me of the modest, family-oriented courses I grew up playing in NE PA.


Mohonk was a hoot and my quirkmeter was pegging at 11!   Of course, knowing not everyone shares my taste for frankly weird golf holes and historic ramblings I couldn't give it more than a 2.5 on the Doak Scale but it's probably a 5 or 6 on the fun-meter.  No one would ever consider building holes like that today, that's for sure.


I've played a few nine-hole courses in that area and have some others planned.   The best and biggest surprise was Twaalfskill which was built in 1902 yet it's a legit Doak Scale 5, easily.   Rip Van Winkle is a bit flat, but some low-key, Ross-ian fun.   Last year Mike Worth and I played Twaalfskill, Innes, and Sullivan County (now run by Tom Coyne) in one day, and are planning something similar next time he's back up in his hometown.


Courses under consideration include Dutcher, Hotchkiss School, Dinsmore, and Dutchess, and possibly something near Poughkeepsie like College Hill or Vassar.   Oh, and I'm dying to get to Copake, no matter who designed it.  Ditto McGregor Links.

If Copake isn't Devereux Emmet then I guess I haven't played all but 5 of his courses!!


Chris

Chris,


It certainly may be Emmet but I've never seen any physical evidence despite some vigorous searching.   In fact, I can't think of a significant 18 hole course created during the Golden Age near major Metropolitan areas that had less contemporaneous press coverage when it was created in the early-mid 1920s.


With your experience playing many of Emmet's courses, what's your take on Copake? 

[Pete_Pittock]

The ninth through eighteenth at Pacific Dunes about fifteen months ago.  Probably +25 on a nice day. More pick-ups than a streetwalker or a car lot.

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