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Is the issue with the tee shot on 11? Perhaps that would explain the placement of the directional post... I hit a drive right over it, only to find my ball in the tall grass left of the fairway.
So, that field should have very limited development possibilities because it is next to a golf course? Should the club then pay a yearly fee to the owner for devaluing their land?I fail to understand why golfers think it is okay to spray balls into neighbouring properties. No, golf clubs need to learn how to be good neighbours even if it requires altering courses. Ciao
Ed,Who is the architect for the changes?.... Never been to Silloth.Ally
Thy have had problems with 11 for years. I believe the current hole was moved left, making it more of a dogleg, whereas previously you played more over the shoulder on the right. It would be a shame to lose 17 or 18 as they currently are. 12 changing might not be a bad thing, it's a good hole but pretty much the same hole as 16 anyway! I'm surprised to hear that either 17 or 18 is a problem.
I played Silloth yesterday for the first time in 12 years. Weather was great and course was in fantastic condition - fast and firm with reasonable rough and the heather in bloom. A wonderful course.We had to give all our details for insurance purposes as they have real problems with houses close to oob on 17, 18, and particularly 11. The pro said it is so bad that plans are in place for new holes.There will be a new tee behind the 9th green and a new 10 hole doglegging left to a green back from the current 10th green. 11 will become a par 3 with the green site where it currently is but remodelled. 12 would become a par 4 as the club owns a fair amount of land in the gorse behind the current 12th green. Iím not sure how likely these changes are or how soon they may come but the pro was very positive about them.
BenHave you played Silloth ?Re new 17th keep the drive and play to the new green. It's only the approach shot that is an issue.The new 18th could work well however not sure the change in the 1st is worth it to accommodate it. Where you site the new tees sits on top of a ridge and was/is sometimes used for the winter tee. From there you probably could play to the practice ground OK but that practice ground is devoid of character having been largely bulldozed at some point to create a large flat rectangular area. You'd need to do a fair bit of shaping to make it interesting I'd have thought.From there your new second tee sits right behind the existing tee that sits up on ridge, and therefore the new tee would be unsighted unless you built it up greatly. You could move it nearer to the existing first fairway where there is a ridge that runs up the side but that might make it closer to line of play off the new 18th tee. I also tend to think the 2nd doesn't need the extra distance. The hole is all about the approach shot and it has a decent enough carry off the existing tee anyway.All in all I think moving the 17th green as you suggest is the only change I'd vote for but then I'm maybe more conservative in these things than a lot of people. The new tee and reshaping of the start of the fairway on the 18th (the last 5-10 years ?) has largely resolved the issue of balls going OB as far as I'm aware but could be wrong.Niall
BenGood stuff.I think your sketch of the 10th-12th shows the issues with the redesign of the 10th. Your first option shows how easy it would be to slice it OB which would be replacing one danger with another, while the second option takes care of that but perhaps brings the 13th green into play. It also goes over where I think the Roman fort is located. How long are the holes and how far to the dog-leg on the 10th ?The new 11th and 12th could work well although they might need to shift a fair bit of dirt on the 12th.Niall
Yes of course BUDA. It was me you nearly hit on the 3rd ! It was just Mark who had words with you after Re 10th - you may recall on the 13th that the approach sat on top of a dune ridge, and that the ridge extended beyond the 13th green towards the existing 10th green, meaning that the drives for the new 10th would land in the face of that ridge leaving a (totally ?) blind approach. Not ideal, as Silloth already has 3 totally blind approaches.Niall