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Niall C

Re: Old Petty @ Cabot Highlands (aka Castle Stuart)
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2025, 08:05:13 AM »
Marty,This is the only highland coo golf logo, though (isn't it?). So I'm a fan. But I would have used the bothy for logo inspiration.
Terrific looking rendering.


John


Next time I see you, I'll show you my Rowallan Castle headcover, complete with highland coo !


Niall

Tom_Doak

Re: Old Petty @ Cabot Highlands (aka Castle Stuart)
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2025, 09:15:03 AM »
Just fill it with sand and you've a ready made bunker. Easy.



It's more the other way around.  Wherever they find something they want it buried at least a meter deep, even after excavation.


Both Old Petty and Punta Brava have required an unbelievable amount of archaeology work compared to any project I've seen.  At The Renaissance Club it was mostly confined to two holes, but on these projects the work was site-wide, and very costly both in terms of fees and in construction time.


Luckily there was nothing found that we couldn't work around . . . we didn't have to relocate any greens.

Niall C

Re: Old Petty @ Cabot Highlands (aka Castle Stuart)
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2025, 10:31:32 AM »
Tom


Yes, burying archaeology seems to be the preferred way going forward but for me it's a bit like buying a pair of shoes that are too good to wear. What's the point ? That said, a bit surprised that the Castle Stuart site required that much investigation. I wonder if it really was more archaeologically of interest than the Renaissance site or whether the planners have just got more demanding in the quarter century (ouch !!) since you built the Renaissance course ?


Niall

Tom_Doak

Re: Old Petty @ Cabot Highlands (aka Castle Stuart)
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2025, 05:02:33 PM »

Yes, burying archaeology seems to be the preferred way going forward but for me it's a bit like buying a pair of shoes that are too good to wear. What's the point ? That said, a bit surprised that the Castle Stuart site required that much investigation. I wonder if it really was more archaeologically of interest than the Renaissance site or whether the planners have just got more demanding in the quarter century (ouch !!) since you built the Renaissance course ?



Both sites were known for archaeological findings, so they were going to get scrutiny.  And I am sure things were more restrictive 25 years on.


But the main difference was that my plans for Renaissance showed minimal cut and fill, and the government were not sticklers about maybe hitting something while installing irrigation.  So we were only monitored on a few holes.


For Old Petty, they were told we would do extensive excavation to get down to a gravelly or sandy base, so the entire site was under review.  In addition to bubbles around known areas, we had to excavate 1/7 of the site [dig a trench 3 feet wide every 21 feet] to see what was found, and then further investigate anything that was deemed significant.

Niall C

Re: Old Petty @ Cabot Highlands (aka Castle Stuart)
« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2025, 03:33:44 AM »
Thanks Tom, I think if you look on google maps you can still see the trenches.


Niall

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