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Ronald Montesano

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Without any commentary from the photographer, I'm going to let each hole simmer...

Hole # 1: Par Five...585/550/470
From The Tee:


Rumpled Fairway


Looking Back from Left Side of Green


From Above the Green



Hole # 2: Par 4...475/425/310
From The Tee


From The Right Rough



Hole # 3: Par 3...180/160/90
From the Rear of Tee


From the Front of Tee
« Last Edit: June 12, 2011, 06:56:58 PM by Ronald Montesano »
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Brock Peyer

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Re: Zero My Hero...Photo Tour of Renaissance Park in Charlotte, N.C.
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2011, 09:13:15 PM »
I think that I have played there?  Was it built on a land fill?

Ronald Montesano

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Re: Zero My Hero...Photo Tour of Renaissance Park in Charlotte, N.C.
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2011, 09:26:46 PM »
It was built on a land fill. They warn you in the clubhouse to not leave anything of value exposed in your car. Interesting section of town, as with Carolina G&CC, a private track on the other side of town.
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Zero My Hero...Photo Tour of Renaissance Park in Charlotte, N.C.
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2011, 07:11:42 PM »
Hole # 4: Par 5...525/500/450
From Tee Deck


From Fairway


From 150-Yard Pole


From Behind Green


Hole # 5: Par 3...195/180/110

Hole # 6: Par 4...455/415/355
From Fairway


Hole # 7: Par 4...560/430/380
From Tee Deck


From Fairway


Hole # 8: Par 4...345/335/250
From Tee


From Fairway
« Last Edit: June 10, 2011, 07:27:15 PM by Ronald Montesano »
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Adam Clayman

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Re: Zero My Hero...Photo Tour of Renaissance Park in Charlotte, N.C.
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2011, 12:28:30 PM »
Doesn't look like a zero.
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Kalen Braley

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Re: Zero My Hero...Photo Tour of Renaissance Park in Charlotte, N.C.
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2011, 12:30:02 PM »
Looks pretty good so far....

Adrian_Stiff

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Re: Zero My Hero...Photo Tour of Renaissance Park in Charlotte, N.C.
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2011, 01:40:42 PM »
Looks pretty good so far....
Yes, I agree.
A combination of whats good for golf and good for turf.
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Zero My Hero...Photo Tour of Renaissance Park in Charlotte, N.C.
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2011, 01:46:42 PM »
"Built on top of a reclaimed landfill and bisected by high voltage power lines, this municipal course is one of the most unappealing sites for golf this side of Seaton, Carew, England. Nevertheless, they're lining up to play it."

more to come...
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Zero My Hero...Photo Tour of Renaissance Park in Charlotte, N.C.
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2011, 06:12:41 PM »
It got a little rainy this day...I was driving the course, not even playing it, so shots are sparse.

Hole # 9: Par 4...445/380/255

From the Tee Deck-Green In Distance Upper Left


Hole # 10: Par 4...435/400/310

From The Fairway


Hole # 11: Par 3...200/150/110

Hole # 12: Par 4...420/390/280

From The Tee


From The Fairway


Hole # 13: Par 3...220/200/120

From Upper Right Back Tee


Hole # 14: Par 5...530/500/460

From The Tee


From Fairway


From Fairway Left Side Near Green


From Behind Green Across Water


Hole # 15: Par 4...445/405/325

From Behind Green
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Ed Oden

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Renaissance Park probably isn't a zero.  But it's not for lack of effort.

Chris Flamion

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I'm not seeing one thing that makes me not want to play it, including the power lines.

Ed Oden

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I'm not seeing one thing that makes me not want to play it, including the power lines.

If you play it, I'm pretty sure that will change.

Sean_A

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The course looks an alright cheap and cheerful solution for those not wanting to spend a lot of dosh for golf.  Is there a lot of hiking up to tees?

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Ronald Montesano

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Hole # 16: Par 5...575/495/405
From The Upper Tee Deck


From Left Edge Of Fairway


From Rough Short Of Hazard, Left Of Fairway


Hole # 17: Par 4...430/395/285
From The Upper Tee Deck


Weird Rocks Right Of Fairway Near Green



Hole # 18: Par 4...440/420/350
From Fairway Crest


From Closer To Green


From Behind Green
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Kalen Braley

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Call me crazy, but this course seems to look pretty fun by my eye...as it appears to have a lot of quirk.

While there appears to be a few clunker holes out there, all and all, i'd say it looks a helluva lot more interesting than the local joe blow muni.  
« Last Edit: June 13, 2011, 12:47:52 PM by Kalen Braley »

Adrian_Stiff

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Kalen I tend to agree. Think a lot of my friends would call this a good course rather a bad one. I would like to know if Tom Doak still thinks this is a zero or if he thinks he may of made a mistake, he must have visted say twenty years ago, perhaps it is better now....it got me thinking that if I was the owner of this course and someone made the sort of remarks publically that a Doak zero means, I would want that persons balls on a hot tray and roasted.
A combination of whats good for golf and good for turf.
The Players Club, Cumberwell Park, The Kendleshire, Oake Manor, Dainton Park, Forest Hills, Erlestoke, St Cleres.
www.theplayersgolfclub.com

Carl Nichols

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I'm not seeing one thing that makes me not want to play it, including the power lines.

I am.  The 18th hole looks really lame.

Greg Tallman

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Was this course formerly known as Highland Hills or Hyland Hills or Hyland Park?

Chris Flamion

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18 looks like a junker, but most of the rest looks playable?

George Freeman

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Up until hole #12, things were looking really good!  I like the openness of holes #1-11 and the movement in the land.  There are some pretty interesting green complexes in those first 11.  #1, #4, #6, #7, and #10 all look pretty interesting!

From 12 onward, it looks like they did a complete 180 in design philosophy (or didn't have tree clearing in the budget).  Too bad...
« Last Edit: June 14, 2011, 03:36:07 PM by George Freeman »
Mayhugh is my hero!!

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Greg Ross

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One of the cool things about Renaissance is when you get back to the 14th hole or so, the property bumps up against the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police training facility. Just as you're ready to hit your second shot, a helicopter will fly by with an officer hanging from a rope. Not sure who is having more fun at that point.
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Carl Johnson

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I've played Renaissance (the name from day one) any number of times over the years, although probably not in the past three.  I would not call it a zero, but then who am I to judge?  It is a low-budget, relatively low cost muni.  It has always suffered from maintenance and conditioning problems.  The front nine was built over a landfill (the contents of which pop up from time to time), and the back nine on an adjacent wooded tract.  There are spots where "tree work" has always been needed, expecially off the tee on number 17.  By the way, the "weird rocks" to the right of the no. 17 fairway were originally scattered throughout the tee ball landing area in the middle of the fairway.  Go figure.  A redo 10 years ago or so (please don't hold me to this date) resulted in their relocation off to the right, and made a number of other badly needed "correctiions" to the original design.  My guess is that the "zero" rating was assigned to the course before the redo.  Still, before the redo I am not sure I'd put it as low as a zero, but it could have been a 0.8, or maybe a 1.8!  Numbers one, eight, 16 and 17 were complete disasters.  Fifteen was close to a disaster.  Others, too, were close.  Eight was a 90 degree dogleg left that required a driver over a ravine that the average player could not carry.  Now the tee has been moved across the ravine, making the hole a very short par four.  In my opinion the tee should have been moved up further and the hole played as a longish par three.  What else?  Eighteen is probably not a very good finishing hole.  Note that the green is in an amphitheater setting, with a hill around the back.  The original idea was that this would be a grassy hillside on which thousands of spectators could watch the finish of a major tournament(s) of some sort.  That never happened.  About ten or so years ago, maybe providing the opportunity for the course redo as well, the course had to be closed for a year or so because methane was seeping from the landfill into the clubhouse.  I don't think the trecks to the back tees would be a problem, though I've never played them.  Ron's photos are great, but of course there is no substitute for playing the course itself.  I think I'll try it again this summer.

Another muni I definitely want to try is the nine hole Charles Sifford Course near downtown Charlotte.  Years ago it was Bonnie Brae (18 holes), and then became nine.  Somewhere in there the name changed to Revolution.  The Sifford name is about a month old.  Sifford was born and raished in Charlotte, learning his golf as caddie at Carolina Golf Club.  I understand he has now moved back to Charlotte from the midwest.  Very recently the Revolution course and practice areas were redone in connection with changing it to the home of a First Tee program, and it was officially renamed the "Dr Charles L. Sifford Golf Course at Revolution Park."  Recently I took them a load of golf balls and had a quick look at holes 1 and 9.  I was told the course still had serious maintenance issues.  However, as a low cost, "starter course" in a lower income, mostly "minority" neighborhood, it's a golf asset to Charlotte.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2011, 08:59:55 AM by Carl Johnson »

Bruce Wellmon

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Carl,
      When I played junior high and high school golf in Charlotte, class of '76, West Meck, this course did not exist. Revolution did, right off 77, if I recall. The true zero's were Gaston Municipal and Sunset Hills, home of my junior high school team. Those were the days.
Cedarwood, Pawtucket, River Hills, Pine Island. And then the sectionals at Gaston Municipal. 

Carl Johnson

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Carl,
      When I played junior high and high school golf in Charlotte, class of '76, West Meck, this course did not exist. Revolution did, right off 77, if I recall. The true zero's were Gaston Municipal and Sunset Hills, home of my junior high school team. Those were the days.
Cedarwood, Pawtucket, River Hills, Pine Island. And then the sectionals at Gaston Municipal. 


Bruce, you're right about the location of "Revolution."  I just added something about it above.

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