Pat,
You may have played this one--the 14th at Hominy Hill in Colts Neck is a downhill par five, lake fronting the green. Scorecard yardage is 535/Blue Tees (rear) and 504/White Tees (middle). Slight cut tee shot, and then relatively straight fairway down to the water, and the green beyond.
Very similar in terms of strategy and appearance, I am not certain about the slope of the fairway at HH vs. ANGC. The slope from the green down to the lake is obviously not cut as close as at ANGC.
I am not sure if there is any intentional coincidence--although RTJ was the architect of HH in the late 50s or early 60s (I may be mistaken as to the date), but there are some parallels. It was a private club at one time, I understand.
I've played there several times and for whatever reason, I always think of the 15th at Augusta.
The 13th at Architects I shouldn't even mention...(the Mackenzie hole)
Also, Pat, when you say duplicate holes, I think you have said before, Augusta National for membership play plays a lot different than it does for the Masters field. Are you making allowances for this in your question?
Pat, these two are a reverse of your question, but:
There is a relatively well known statement floating around that #16 at Columbia was/is the inspiration for the 12th at Augusta, but, on the Columbia course, it is very much out of place with the appearance of the rest of the course. I am not going to divert this thread with a discussion on what came first, but it would be interesting to find out. Maybe if Craig Disher is reading this, he can weigh in, he lives close by.
I believe the same is said about one of the holes on the inward nine at Baltusrol Lower-(maybe the 13th--I haven't played the Lower course)-it was the inspiration for the 13th at Augusta. I don't recall where I read this.
Tom Doak,
I believe about a week ago, you had brought up the statement concerning the sequencing of holes at Augusta, groups of "hard" holes and "birdie" holes and your thoughts as to why they work so well for the tournament, such as proximity of players in contention.
As an architect, assuming it fit on the land, would you want to lift the hole verbatim, or more imply the strategy of playing the hole, maybe simulate the design of the green, or design with similar shot requirements in mind?
Or, would you be interested in, depending on your client's requirements, the grouping of holes, routing the course, into stretches similar to Augusta National-the "difficult" stretches and "birdie" stretches.