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Matt, I have posted my thoughts about Chambers and Wine Valley (and Rustic Canyon) on this thread...http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,40356.0/
Michael:Sometimes the issue boils down to the decision to have five par-5 and five par-3 holes. Sometimes in reducing the amount of par-4 holes in total -- you lose that opportunity to insert a quality short par-4 into the mix.
The 10th at WV is a 600+ yard par-5 that plays back into the prevailing wind -- a decent hole but lacking in any comparable strategic elements you get from the other holes there. There are no bunkers in the drive and 2nd shot areas and I believe if a center-placed bunker(s) were added it would add a bit more thinking when you step on the tee. Those who opt for the green in two blows -- will need to avoid pulling their 2nd shots to the left -- the approach fromt he left side is quite demanding given the drop-off from that side of the putting surface.
This brings to mind the placement of the bathtub size bunker on the 13th at Rustic Canyon. Not a big gathering bunker, but with enough influence to get one's attention. But, at what distance to place such on such a long hole; maybe at the 240 forward tees, 280 back tees?
Michael,Kye wrote the back tee was to be at 330. Apparently, the next back tees would have been in your wheel house at around 300. I believe that's what the white's are today.Tee it up there. No one is stopping you. That's what Dan intended for you to do.