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Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #200 on: April 15, 2010, 08:17:16 AM »
Country Club of Detroit, August 29, 1915 (NY Sun).

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Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #201 on: April 16, 2010, 04:45:26 PM »
Shinnecock, 1895, New York Daily Eagle":




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Ed Oden

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #202 on: April 16, 2010, 07:50:31 PM »
Thanks as always Joe!  The diagram in your last post makes for an interesting comparison against the Shinnecock drawing from the same year in reply #78.

Ed

Ed Oden

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #203 on: April 16, 2010, 08:10:42 PM »
This beautiful drawing of Rokuro Akaboshi's original routing for Kawana's Fuji Course (which I understand was passed over for the Alison routing that was eventually constructed) comes from Rob Miller's current thread here... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,43954.0/


GBoring

Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #204 on: April 18, 2010, 09:34:57 PM »
CC of Scranton Walter Travis's Original Routing

Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #205 on: April 20, 2010, 05:52:52 AM »
Inverness, 1920:

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Cristian

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #206 on: April 20, 2010, 06:26:33 AM »
Not as ancient as some of the others on here, but I like them as they are hand drawn and they are of my home course GC de Haar (9 holes) in Holland, designed in 1974 by Frank Pennink. (Most of the greens were considerably changed in the early '90's).


































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Mike Cirba

Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #207 on: April 20, 2010, 06:40:51 AM »
Does anyone know where the original Ridgewood CC was located in comparison to today's course or who designed it?

Ed Oden

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #208 on: April 20, 2010, 06:53:12 PM »
Thanks Greg, Joe and Cristian for your latest contributions!  I have updated the index.  Let me know if I've made any errors.

Ed

Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #209 on: April 22, 2010, 01:40:10 PM »
Oakmont, 1953 Binghamton Press:

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Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #210 on: April 23, 2010, 09:57:45 AM »
St. Louis CC, 1921.

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TEPaul

Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #211 on: April 23, 2010, 12:14:49 PM »
By the way, I should mention regarding the original Travis diagram of Scranton GC (Post #204) that from the high clubhouse that is not shown but sits in the open space at the bottom of that diagram and looks straight west (over the course to the top of the diagram) offers some of the broadest and most magnificent sunsets I have ever seen on an inland site. And now that a number of trees have been removed it is even better!

Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #212 on: April 24, 2010, 07:54:14 AM »
St. Albans (NY), 1915 Brooklyn Daily Eagle:

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TEPaul

Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #213 on: April 24, 2010, 08:11:54 AM »
By the way, I was speaking with Phil Young and Joe Bausch about this the other day but can you imagine how some of those diagrams and drawings particularly the very old ones got into the newspapers if they were from the clubs etc? If they weren't it would seem someone from the newspaper must have drawn them.

Is there anyone on here who knows much about the history of newspaper and magazine printing processes about a century ago and back?

Niall C

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #214 on: April 24, 2010, 08:25:17 AM »
Tom

I'm no expert but I have now seen enough old newspaper copy to last a life time. Round about the turn of the century most of the regional papers at least didn't have the technology to include photos, so they would include a sketch of the photo if that makes sense. The reason I know this is that they would often state that the sketch was from a photo. In this regard I have also seen course layouts, which are clearly a skecth of a plan like the ones Joe posts and the ones Ed kindly posted for me. Again on occasion I have seen newspaper crediting the person who prepared the plan from which the sketch was taken from.

So I'm guessing that the newspaper had inhouse sketch artists who would quickly knock up a representation of a plan or photo or whatever was required.

The question is how did the plans come about in the first place, were they plans prepared pre-construction or done after the event ? I've no doubt that there would be a bit of both but strongly suspect that in most cases it would be the latter, the plans were made after the course was built which is why you have to be very careful crediting some unknown on the basis of his name being on the bottom of a plan, particularly if that person happened to be a surveyor or engineer, the type of person who would be commisioned to prepare a plan. Again, I say that because I have seen reference to plans being prepared after the event.

The next question is why were the plans prepared in the first place and the answer to that I think is to satisfy peoples interest and as a crude form of advertising.

Niall

Ed Oden

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #215 on: April 24, 2010, 09:52:53 AM »
Here is a routing for Dalat Palace Golf Club in Vietnam from the 1931 "Guide de Golfs du Continents" publ. by. Editions Plumon in Paris, France, courtesy of Christoph Meister in this thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,43730.msg957688/


TEPaul

Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #216 on: April 24, 2010, 09:56:23 AM »
Niall:

I think all you said in Post #214 is both very logical and historically accurate. Thanks.

We do need to consider those kinds of things these days when we tend to forget they did not have anything like our current technologies back then.

BCrosby

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #217 on: April 24, 2010, 10:17:28 AM »
Niall -

Most of the early stick drawings I've seen were prepared after the fact, usually by the club for its own, internal club bulletins or annual reports. Those schematic drawings were then copied for use in newspaper articles. (I can't imagine a newspaperman spending the time to do his own drawings from scratch.) There are no doubt exceptions, but I'd guess that was the usual procedure. In many cases they were, literally, the only drawings done of the course over those early years.  

I'd also guess that many of the early stick drawings were not very accurate. Bunkers aren't shown, hole lengths are out of wack, etc. But that wasn't the point. They were done simply to give an overall sense of the routing of the course. They were not intended as construction drawings or as drawings submitted as part of a bid for a commission.

They are fascinating nonetheless.

Bob    

Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #218 on: April 25, 2010, 07:48:16 AM »
Fresh Meadow, 1930 Brooklyn Daily Eagle:

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Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #219 on: April 26, 2010, 02:34:43 PM »
Hackensack, 1915.

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Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #220 on: April 26, 2010, 02:39:00 PM »
Haworth, 1915.

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Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #221 on: April 26, 2010, 02:47:51 PM »
Van Cortlandt, 1915.

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Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #222 on: April 26, 2010, 02:52:39 PM »
Lakewood, 1915.


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Brian Freeman

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #223 on: April 26, 2010, 02:56:30 PM »
Love 10 & 11 - back to back par 3s under 150 yds on the other side of the road from the rest of the course.  Now that's quirk!

Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #224 on: April 26, 2010, 03:00:33 PM »
North Jersey CC, 1915.

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