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Sven Nilsen

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1125 on: January 08, 2018, 11:39:08 AM »
Plymouth 1929 Ross Plan -

"As much as we have learned about the history of golf architecture in the last ten plus years, I'm convinced we have only scratched the surface."  A GCA Poster

"There's the golf hole; play it any way you please." Donald Ross

Sven Nilsen

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1126 on: January 18, 2018, 03:16:23 PM »
Oakland GC - Bayside, NY

Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Jan. 6, 1906 -

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MCirba

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1127 on: January 18, 2018, 06:56:14 PM »
Very cool, Sven.   Tough to imagine Travis wasn't involved in the expansion.
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MCirba

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1128 on: January 18, 2018, 07:48:24 PM »
Sven,


The new nine at Oakland was designed by Walter Travis and Stewart Gardner, pro at GCGC.   Will post article when I get back to a computer.
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MCirba

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1129 on: January 19, 2018, 10:18:06 AM »
Second nine at Oakland by Travis and Gardner.

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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1130 on: January 22, 2018, 03:03:24 PM »

Rochester Democrat and Chronicle - July 3rd 1952 - second 9 - designed by Ross/McGovern, built by William F.Gordon.
The article, which includes a description of the holes, is here:                   
https://tinyurl.com/y82zpbzl

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Sven Nilsen

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1131 on: January 23, 2018, 10:48:37 AM »
Second nine at Oakland by Travis and Gardner.




Mike:


Do you have the full source for that article?


Waiting for Ed Homsey to chime in, but the early date on this makes it a fairly significant discovery. 


Sven



"As much as we have learned about the history of golf architecture in the last ten plus years, I'm convinced we have only scratched the surface."  A GCA Poster

"There's the golf hole; play it any way you please." Donald Ross

Rick Lane

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1132 on: January 23, 2018, 11:44:13 AM »
You guys have amazing skills at digging and finding old articles and maps.    Does anyone know of any article or info about the expansion in 1910/11 of Brooklawn in Connecticut from 9 to 18 holes? 
All we have is that "Cornell Farm" was purchased and an 18 hole course was made from the original (1895) 9 holes.  We do not know who was involved.    I presume George Sparling, who arrived in 1908, but its a guess.   For that matter, we do not know who exactly laid out the original 1895 nine holes......any help is greatly appreciated!   

MCirba

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1133 on: January 23, 2018, 12:47:19 PM »
Second nine at Oakland by Travis and Gardner.


Mike:


Do you have the full source for that article?


Waiting for Ed Homsey to chime in, but the early date on this makes it a fairly significant discovery. 


Sven

Sven,

It's from the September 4th, 1906 issue of the Brooklyn Daily Eagle.   

I passed it onto Ed at his Facebook Walter Travis Society site.   

Thanks!
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1134 on: January 23, 2018, 09:26:36 PM »
Here's the RTJsr remodeling plan for Valley View golf course located in Roscoe Conkling Park, Utica NY.
The course was originally laid out by Walter Travis in 1916 and constructed by the city from those plans.

 This map comes from the 2/10/1938 Utica Daily Press.

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MCirba

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1135 on: January 23, 2018, 09:43:25 PM »
Awesome stuff Jim.
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1136 on: January 24, 2018, 08:22:55 PM »
Thanks Mike.


Might have been a twofer for Ralph Barton as his plan for the Muni was created in the same time frame as his work at the CC of Greenfield, Ma.. The two courses are only about 3 miles apart.

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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1137 on: January 26, 2018, 08:47:56 PM »

Ross' layout of the Asheville Municipal golf course from a 1928 drainage plan.
Use this link to get a better view. Article begins on page 6.

http://archive.lib.msu.edu/tic/golfd/article/1928jan.pdf


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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1138 on: January 27, 2018, 04:40:55 PM »
Stanley Thompson's plan for the Erie Downs G&CC - today it's known as Bridgewater CC.

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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1139 on: January 28, 2018, 10:42:53 PM »

Stanley Thompson's proposal for adding 5 holes to the existing 9 at the Bartlett CC in Olean, NY.  In the late 1950s four more holes were added to bring the number to 18. The article is from the Olean Herald of October 1950. No day was given, but there was a blurb on the page about the naval bombardment of Chongjin N.Korea and that was on the 12 and 13th of October.

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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1140 on: February 01, 2018, 04:03:26 PM »
Eastern Parkway GC. Bklyn NY - for members of the Union League - George Low layout.

I believe you had to register your golf balls at the DMV before playing here - there are 16 road crossings to be navigated on the nine holes.  :o   ;D

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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1141 on: February 05, 2018, 08:17:59 PM »


Built mainly for the managers and employees of the rapidly growing Eastman Kodak Company. H.K. Mac Donald - Architect.
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Sven Nilsen

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1142 on: February 15, 2018, 12:31:20 PM »
Franklin Park - May 24, 1922 Christian Science Monitor

"As much as we have learned about the history of golf architecture in the last ten plus years, I'm convinced we have only scratched the surface."  A GCA Poster

"There's the golf hole; play it any way you please." Donald Ross

Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1143 on: February 26, 2018, 10:01:01 AM »

Corrected a broken link from earlier.

Lakewood CC from 1915 (Joe Bausch):


And after Travis laid hands on it, some 5 years later. No. 14 on the left side of the drawing looks like a bear, and the sharp dogleg right #17 (bottom of drawing) is reminiscent of the soon to be built 3rd hole AWT's Fresh Meadows CC.

Embiggen = 2clicks

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Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1144 on: February 26, 2018, 12:02:41 PM »
My web hosting service has changed again.   So I burned a couple of hours to fix all the broken links in the maps I've posted over the years!
@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:
https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1145 on: February 26, 2018, 01:20:36 PM »
My web hosting service has changed again.   So I burned a couple of hours to fix all the broken links in the maps I've posted over the years!


Fantastic!
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1146 on: February 26, 2018, 02:27:56 PM »
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Nigel Islam

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1147 on: February 26, 2018, 07:48:23 PM »
The last course that Seth Raynor designed was Mid Pacific CC (aka Kailua CC), which he planned during his Dec. 1925 trip to Hawaii.  Although only 9 holes were built, the plan called for 18.  Here's a map of the 18 hole course from the Jan. 23, 1927 edition of the Honolulu Star-Advertiser.




Sorry to dredge this up from the past, but looking at Google maps this appears to be a very similar routing to the current course. I was always under the impression the club did not use Raynorís plan for the additional nine.

Sven Nilsen

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1148 on: April 04, 2018, 02:26:30 PM »
Dayton CC

The course was reworked by Cornish a number of years later, and now looks like a typical tree-lined midwestern course from the aerials.  Seems to be some lost opportunities in the shared fairways included on this plan.

Feb. 23, 1936 Dayton Daily News -

"As much as we have learned about the history of golf architecture in the last ten plus years, I'm convinced we have only scratched the surface."  A GCA Poster

"There's the golf hole; play it any way you please." Donald Ross

Sven Nilsen

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #1149 on: April 16, 2018, 09:37:41 AM »
Kingsport CC (Kingsport, TN) - 1919 Tillinghast/McCarthy course

"As much as we have learned about the history of golf architecture in the last ten plus years, I'm convinced we have only scratched the surface."  A GCA Poster

"There's the golf hole; play it any way you please." Donald Ross

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