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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #877 on: November 08, 2015, 02:16:53 PM »

A couple of views of Gearhart:




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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #878 on: November 09, 2015, 11:55:28 AM »










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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #879 on: November 09, 2015, 12:55:08 PM »
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MCirba

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #880 on: November 09, 2015, 01:05:01 PM »
Alwoodley in the Good Doctor's own brilliant hand.

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BCrosby

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #881 on: November 09, 2015, 01:41:46 PM »


Jim - The 9 holer is still there, though under threat. Thanks for posting. I had not seen the drawing before.

Bob

Rees Milikin

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #882 on: November 09, 2015, 04:19:42 PM »


Jim - The 9 holer is still there, though under threat. Thanks for posting. I had not seen the drawing before.

Bob

Are there still threats to shut it down?

I wonder if that routing pictured was ever used b/c if so, it would have been a brutal uphill downhill walk.  The current routing is far superior.

Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #883 on: November 09, 2015, 07:18:30 PM »
Bob,
Glad you enjoyed it.


Today's routing is nothing like what was proposed:


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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #884 on: November 09, 2015, 07:19:45 PM »


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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #885 on: November 10, 2015, 11:19:35 AM »


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MCirba

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« Reply #886 on: November 10, 2015, 11:25:50 AM »
Regarding Candler Park, this is from the Georgia Trust regarding the architectural history;

THE STORY
 Coca-Cola founder Asa Candler donated 55 acres of land in northeast Atlanta to be used as a public park by the city in 1922. The land included a nine-hole golf course designed by landscape architect Helen Smith. Smith was hired by Candler to design the course for his daughter because women were prohibited from playing on the Druid Hills course that Candler frequented.
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BCrosby

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« Reply #887 on: November 10, 2015, 12:25:37 PM »
Thanks Mike. I had not seen that either.


I have heard that the little course is not played much. There has been talk (coming mostly from the neighborhood) that the land should be converted to a park. I do not know what stance the City of Atlanta will take on that. The operating agreements for their courses are up for re-negotiation. Stay tuned.


Bob

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« Reply #888 on: November 10, 2015, 01:01:42 PM »

Bob,
Searching the CP Master Plan for the word "golf" gets 16 hits.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46351250/Candler%20Park%20Master%20Plan%20%2811-25-13%29.pdf
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BCrosby

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #889 on: November 10, 2015, 01:38:02 PM »
Thanks Jim. Good news that the MP does not call for the elimination of the course.


Bob

Sven Nilsen

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #890 on: November 12, 2015, 10:19:31 AM »
French Lick - Chicago Tribune March 31, 1918

"As much as we have learned about the history of golf architecture in the last ten plus years, I'm convinced we have only scratched the surface."  A GCA Poster

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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #891 on: November 12, 2015, 07:17:35 PM »

Sven posted this overlay of Multnomah:






I came across another view:





The city offered a prize for the best design and the first layout was by Henry I. Jones and it was said that Vernon Macan might give it a go. The city was looking to have the course designed by a Portland architect, but the final plan was by H.Chandler Egan. The course may have also been known as West Hills. It was built on a county farm that once housed the poor.


The city also had a contest to name the course:






There was a plaster cast made of the property for the contestants to look at. Here's the topo:


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Bret Lawrence

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #892 on: November 13, 2015, 09:51:55 AM »
1922 Plan for Franklin Park-Boston





Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #893 on: November 13, 2015, 03:04:03 PM »


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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #894 on: November 13, 2015, 03:31:35 PM »
Memphis CC -30 years between views.


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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #895 on: November 13, 2015, 04:00:39 PM »
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BCrosby

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #896 on: November 13, 2015, 04:57:57 PM »
Jim -


I would be curious to hear why you think golf journals and newspapers carried so many course routings in the the first decades of the 20th century. They appear rarely today.


I am tempted to say it has to do with the internet, but it can't be that simple.


Bob

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« Reply #897 on: November 13, 2015, 05:26:22 PM »
Bob,

No television so newspapers.had to provide visual stimulation, IMHO.
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #898 on: November 13, 2015, 06:20:41 PM »
Bob,


No TV, as Mike mentioned, but golf was becoming extremely popular and lots of folks were becoming interested. There are pages and pages describing the goings-on at numerous clubs, tons of reporting on the results of matches and tournaments, and new clubs were being introduced to the public through these print sources. What better way to do it than with drawings of holes, routing diagrams, clubhouses, etc..


What's really 'neat' is that many of them had to be drawn by staff artists, not just reproduced from originals.

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BCrosby

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #899 on: November 13, 2015, 07:37:56 PM »
I don't disagree with the above. But Jim hints at something else. The drawings are more than just communicating information about a golf course.


Maybe I'm over-thinking this, but there is a strong whiff of class braggadocio in these drawings. They signal to everyday newspaper readers that some of your friends in the area have invested a lot of money in land and built a golf course. It's a version of a society page that appears in the sports pages. It's a peek into what the local toffs are up to, not unlike a series of pictures of a fancy formal ball.


None of which is to suggest that I don't enjoy this long thread. I do enormously.


My point is only that that the proliferation of published course routings then and their absence now strikes me as as interesting in ways that aren't immediately obvious. These routings weren't published to satisfy a popular interest in golf architecture. They were were published for other reasons.


Bob




         

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