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Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #275 on: August 26, 2010, 01:05:16 PM »
Still more changes at the Marine and Field Club (1922).

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Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #276 on: August 26, 2010, 01:09:18 PM »
Royal St. George's Golf Club (1922).


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Ed Oden

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #277 on: September 06, 2010, 10:12:07 PM »
Tillinghast's water color sketch of San Francisco Golf Club, courtesy of Rick Wolffe in this thread...http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,41978.0/


Melvyn Morrow

Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #278 on: September 07, 2010, 10:45:22 AM »

Royal St George again from 1922 Re The Open Course noting the location of sea and First Tee, which seems mising from Joe's sketch.



Melvyn

Scott Warren

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #279 on: September 07, 2010, 10:57:16 AM »
Brian Freeman,

The Dornoch map is brilliant. Can those in the know confirm/clarify for me what I am seeing?

Then>Now
1-5 > 1-5
6 > 6 tee to 11 green
7 > 12
8-12 > 14-18
13 > Struie 1
14 > gone
15 > Struie 4
16-17 > Struie 17-18
18 > Struie 18 green to the practice green


Melvyn Morrow

Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #280 on: September 07, 2010, 11:49:34 AM »

Scott

Something to read re your map of Dornoch circa 1906, Looks like the map may be the extension discussed in the article although they may have stretched it from 5960 to over 6,000yards.






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Bill_McBride

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #281 on: September 07, 2010, 01:12:29 PM »
So the current 7th and 8th lie along the old railway line up on the high ground, with the 8th green and entire 9th and 10th holes being added in later years?  Interesting.......

James Boon

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #282 on: September 07, 2010, 04:57:53 PM »
Brian Freeman,

The Dornoch map is brilliant. Can those in the know confirm/clarify for me what I am seeing?

Then>Now
1-5 > 1-5
6 > 6 tee to 11 green
7 > 12
8-12 > 14-18
13 > Struie 1
14 > gone
15 > Struie 4
16-17 > Struie 17-18
18 > Struie 18 green to the practice green



Scott,

From my reading of the plan, the clubs history and discussions with Rich Goodale earlier this year while up there, yes I believe you've got that right?

Cheers,

James
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Scott Warren

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #283 on: September 08, 2010, 02:07:28 AM »
I'm told I missed the fact that in that pic, 1 and 2 are both 250-yard holes (I couldn't read the yardages when I had a crack at the above). Which reminds me that as we played 1 in May that Rich pointed out the old 2nd tee over by the fence short of the 1st green.

Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #284 on: September 09, 2010, 03:37:17 PM »
Sargowana (from the Dec 10, 1916 Brooklyn Daily Eagle).

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Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #285 on: September 12, 2010, 06:21:48 AM »
Prestwick (May 24, 1899 New York Sun):

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Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #286 on: September 22, 2010, 04:26:51 PM »
I don't know if this was a joke or not!  This from the August 26, 1916 edition of the Evening Public Ledger.

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Ed Oden

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #287 on: October 18, 2010, 11:12:40 PM »
Here is the complete 1926 Cypress Point drawing courtesy of Neil Crafter in this thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,46216.0/



Neil had previously posted an excerpt in reply #12.

Bill_McBride

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #288 on: October 19, 2010, 10:50:26 AM »
Ed, that routing is a lot different than what was actually built and exists today.

Examples:  #6 and #13 both appear to be par 3s.  #8 is almost straight versus the dogleg around/over the dune today.

The 18th tee is in the ocean!

Phil_the_Author

Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #289 on: October 19, 2010, 09:40:17 PM »
The only known rendering of the Caldeno Golf Club built by CC Worthington. Note that there are only 6 holes shown. No date is given and this is very early on...

http://
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Brian Freeman

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #290 on: October 24, 2010, 10:39:27 AM »
I'm told I missed the fact that in that pic, 1 and 2 are both 250-yard holes (I couldn't read the yardages when I had a crack at the above). Which reminds me that as we played 1 in May that Rich pointed out the old 2nd tee over by the fence short of the 1st green.

Scott: I believe your assessment is correct - although we never played the Struie so I cannot vouch for those holes.  Maybe next time.  I did not pick up on the fact previously that 6 played to the current #11 green vs. the current green.

The original #2 was indeed 255 yards.  I certainly would not have wanted to be putting on #1 green while someone was driving off #2 with a early 1900's era driver!  Thinking about that hole, with the severity of the green complex, as designed for a risk-reward tee shot or a 200 yard shot and a pitch adds even more to the hole in my mind.  But for practical reasons the conversion to a par 3 was probably the correct move, and still one of my favorite holes in Scotland.

I regret that I did not take the opportunity to walk over to the old tee and hit a shot or two when I was there.


Ed Oden

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #291 on: October 29, 2010, 09:11:31 PM »
Three iterations of Mackenzie's Augusta National plans courtesy of Neil Crafter in this thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,46255.0/

June 1932 - Reproduced in Tom Doak et al's "The Life and Times of Alister Mackenzie":


July 1931 - From David Owen's "The Making of the Masters":


November 1931 - From augusta.com website:



Ed Oden

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #292 on: October 29, 2010, 11:43:15 PM »
Harry Colt's hole notes and sketches of Old Elm, courtesy of Dave Schmidt in this thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,45684.0/




















Alfonso Erhardt

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #293 on: October 30, 2010, 04:27:37 PM »
Some of Javier Arana's drawings:

Original plan of Neguri



Par 3 course near Barcelona



Real Club de Golf de la Cerdaņa (with Tom Simpson's comments)




Golf de la Molina

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Ed Oden

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #294 on: October 30, 2010, 08:48:49 PM »
Thanks Alfonso, those are fantastic drawings!

Chris Buie has contributed this map from his outstanding Overhills thread... http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,46197.0/


Tom MacWood

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #295 on: October 31, 2010, 11:01:16 AM »
Here is a link to the USGA architectural archive, 95% of which is made up of Flynn's drawings and plans. They may want to consider renaming the site.

http://architecturearchive.usgamuseum.com/

Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #296 on: November 25, 2010, 03:57:56 PM »
Myopia, 1901 (June 13, 1901 Evening Telegram).

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TEPaul

Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #297 on: November 25, 2010, 06:17:57 PM »
Joe:

This is one helluva thread and has already ended up being a great resource but at this point with your recent inclusion of that Myopia Evening Telegram drawing of Myopia, I think a real distinction needs to be made on this thread that indicates to everyone just how different most all actual architectural drawings done by architects are compared to drawings of a golf course probably done by some employee of a newspaper, as that one of Myopia in 1901 appears to be. It's not much more than a stick routing and it's primary purpose may've been nothing more than to show the spectators what hole they were on if they went to see the 1901 US Open.

But Herbert Leeds put on one helluva show for the spectators and players but unfortunately the guy was such an outright elitist martinet he would not let the pros come near the clubhouse. They had to change in a tent and it was either this Open or the one in 1898 where some of the pros were so mad about the treatment they got at Myopia the next year, I think out in Chicago, some told the USGA if they couldn't do better than that they were not willing to play in their US Open.

Ed Oden

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #298 on: December 01, 2010, 11:23:27 PM »
Here is another map of Myopia, courtesy of Tom MacWood c/o Joe Bausch in this thread...http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,46602.70/



[Note:  This may be the same as one of maps in Reply #114.  But those photos are temporarily unviewable, so I can't tell for sure.]

And here is one of Atlantic City from Mike Cirba in that same thread...


Joe Bausch

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Re: A Compilation of Routing Maps, Plans and Architectural Drawings
« Reply #299 on: December 10, 2010, 03:22:33 PM »
Newport (1895, November, The Golfer)

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