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1) Saint Andrew's old Course2) Trump International Canouan Island3) St. Georges G&CC4) Jasper Park Lodge5) Victoria Golf G&CC5) Tobiano6) Banff Springs7) Caledonia Devils Paintbrush9) Bear Mountain Golf Resort10) Mississauga G&CCMostly all Canadian Golf courses...couldnt think of 25....
MY TOP 25 USA ...In 5 sections of fives ...I jotted these down very quickly -- may have one or two others to insert and then drop off a few others ...a work in progress ...First FiveShinnecock Hills -- the first among equals for meCypress Point -- just pure magic and beauty Merion / East -- nothing packs as much design punch as this layoutOakmont -- should be a major host every 7-8 years whether US Open or PGA. Just the supreme parksland layout of first rate Sand Hills -- surreal setting with golf at its core. nuff said.Second FivePine Valley -- needs to get rid of some trees and the underbrush to move up for me.Ballyneal -- pure fun, entertainment and never a dull moment -- only measurably so-so element for me was the final two par-4's.Rock Creek -- simply loved the layout -- only weak hole for me the finale. the best collection of Doak par-4 holes I have ever playedNGLA -- any design student needs to see it -- awesome in all senses of the word for the scope of what it provided. citizen kane golfWinged Foot / West -- the most intense and discerning course that elicits the least amount of love.Third FiveCrystal Downs -- the toughest short course one can play.Prairie Dunes -- when wind is up -- the yardage becomes immaterial -- great greens and the 8th is on my short list for great holes.Pebble Beach -- when firm and fast and the wind up it's everything and more. still has a few so-so holes that keep it down for me.Fisher's Island -- hard to beat on a sunny summer afternoon -- the best of the Raynor layouts for me.Pinehurst #2 -- when firm and fast and with ample fairway widths works for me -- takes more than one play to "get it"Fourth FiveBlack Mesa -- just a superb public facility for those unable to get to the ones listed above it. Superb scenery and range of holes.The Kingsley Club -- likely should be higher but would need a second visit to confirm my original lovefest for it.Riviera -- love when the course plays firm -- incredible range of decisions for player to decide upon. 18th is everything they say & more.The Ocean Course / Kiawah -- often thought of as a unrelenting beast -- the course has such a range of elasticity and even playabilityPacific Dunes -- wonderful setting and the best ending with a par-4, par-3 and par-5 closing.Fifth FivePlainfield -- one of the most underrated layouts in the metro area and flies way too low nationally.Bayonne -- just totally man created and works well even when in tight quarters -- goes beyond shadow creek in such a similar categoryMauna Kea -- great upgrade from Rees Jones and likely the best RTJ course I have played. The 11th is one of the best long par-3 holesBethpage / Black -- don't like many of the post changes -- the 18th especially -- but still a top notch design and test.Red Ledges -- gets little attention but Jack's most striking layout with UT scenery and design elements that are first rate. p.s. Have notplayed ANGC or Friar's Head which likely would compete for a mention
NGLA -- .... citizen kane golf
Tim Bert:Putting Belvedere and Wild Horse together in your rankings is genius ... I have never seen anyone compare the two, but they are blood brothers. [Having them in the same group as Whistling Straits ... priceless!]I'll help with your problem of having 26 courses. Throw out Spanish Bay. Wasn't that easy?
Why are Belvedere and Wild Horse blood brothers? I've only seen one of them (though many, many times). Is it just because they are public and both Doak 6's?
Quote from: JC Jones on January 02, 2010, 02:30:52 PMWhy are Belvedere and Wild Horse blood brothers? I've only seen one of them (though many, many times). Is it just because they are public and both Doak 6's?Zero earthmoving in the fairways and roughs -- check.Relatively sparse bunkering [less than 50 total] -- check.Lots of little humpy contours in the greens making short game difficult -- check.
Tim Bert:Putting Belvedere and Wild Horse together in your rankings is genius ...
Quote from: Tom_Doak on January 02, 2010, 11:45:48 AMTim Bert:Putting Belvedere and Wild Horse together in your rankings is genius ... Oh my, Tom - don't encourage the lad. I fear you just created your first colon boy!Continued success in the New Year.Mike
Quote from: Michael_Hendren on January 02, 2010, 03:14:52 PMOh my, Tom - don't encourage the lad. I fear you just created your first colon boy!Continued success in the New Year.Mike Most definitely the funniest post of the year.
Oh my, Tom - don't encourage the lad. I fear you just created your first colon boy!Continued success in the New Year.Mike
Sean:Fair enough.I'll put together such a list with a bit of time to think it through. I don't have any Asian or Aussie / NZ selections but will throw together something by early in the week.The bulk of such couses will come from UK / Ireland, Canada, the island off North America and Mexico, to name just a few other places.Sean, be curious to see your USA only listing of the top 25.