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Jim Franklin

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #275 on: April 09, 2010, 01:41:24 PM »
1. Cypress Point
2. NGLA
3. Pine Valley
4. The Old Course
5. Shinnecock Hills
6. Rock Creek Cattle Co
7. Sand Hills
8. Pacific Dunes
9. Merion
10. Oakmont
11. Prairie Dunes
12. Victoria National
13. San Francisco GC
14. Fishers Island
15. Ballyneal
16. Winged Foot - West
17. Sebonack
18. Friars Head
19. Pebble Beach
20. The Alotian
21. Crystal Downs
22. Turnberry (Ailsa)
23. Chicago GC
24. Pete Dye GC
25. Wade Hampton
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Sean_A

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #276 on: April 09, 2010, 01:45:08 PM »
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« Last Edit: January 24, 2011, 06:33:39 PM by Sean Arble »
New plays planned for 2024: Fraserburgh, Turnberry, Isle of Harris, Benbecula, Askernish, Traigh, Minehead, St Medan, Hankley Common, Ashridge, Gog Magog Old & Cruden Bay St Olaf

Matt_Ward

Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #277 on: April 09, 2010, 01:47:27 PM »
Seany:

Yeah, rank them. You want mine -- then do likewise.

Stop with the hemming and hawwing routine. It's getting really tiring putting up with the drivel.

I'm happy to post mine.

jonathan_becker

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #278 on: April 09, 2010, 01:59:06 PM »
Jim Franklin,

Seeing what you have ranked behind your #6 makes me want to get out and see #6 even more!!  Yourself, Shivas, Kalen and analysis by others that have played RCCC has been very insightful for someone like myself that's never been out there.  :) 

Sean_A

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #279 on: April 09, 2010, 02:03:58 PM »
Seany:

Yeah, rank them. You want mine -- then do likewise.

Stop with the hemming and hawwing routine. It's getting really tiring putting up with the drivel.

I'm happy to post mine.

Wardy

Thanks for posting your list.


Ciao  
« Last Edit: March 08, 2015, 07:06:37 AM by Sean_A »
New plays planned for 2024: Fraserburgh, Turnberry, Isle of Harris, Benbecula, Askernish, Traigh, Minehead, St Medan, Hankley Common, Ashridge, Gog Magog Old & Cruden Bay St Olaf

Matt_Ward

Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #280 on: April 09, 2010, 02:08:31 PM »
Jim F:

Wade Hampton 25th ?

Seany:

Love the explanation -- should I say tap dance around what was asked of you from me.

You can list them anyway you like -- highlighting or emphasizing any element you believe is noteworthy.

But, please nuff of the song and dance show about not being able to do so.

I'll forward mine shortly ...

Sean_A

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #281 on: April 09, 2010, 02:29:13 PM »
Jim F:

Wade Hampton 25th ?

Seany:

Love the explanation -- should I say tap dance around what was asked of you from me.You can list them anyway you like -- highlighting or emphasizing any element you believe is noteworthy.

But, please nuff of the song and dance show about not being able to do so.

I'll forward mine shortly ...

Wardy

Ooops, I mistook Jim's list for yours.  Sorry.

Ciao
« Last Edit: January 24, 2011, 06:36:00 PM by Sean Arble »
New plays planned for 2024: Fraserburgh, Turnberry, Isle of Harris, Benbecula, Askernish, Traigh, Minehead, St Medan, Hankley Common, Ashridge, Gog Magog Old & Cruden Bay St Olaf

Matt_Ward

Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #282 on: April 09, 2010, 02:50:29 PM »
Seany:

You're right -- that's life in the cowards's city -- nothing like extending oneself ... ::)

*****

Jim F:

Here was my States listing ...

will include my foreign side of things too -- mostly from the UK / Ireland and possibly a few other locations as well.

First Five

Shinnecock Hills -- the first among equals for me
Cypress Point -- just pure magic and beauty
Merion / East -- nothing packs as much design punch as this layout
Oakmont -- should be a major host every 7-8 years whether US Open or PGA. Just the supreme parksland layout of first rate
Sand Hills -- surreal setting with golf at its core. nuff said.

Second Five

Pine Valley -- needs to get rid of some trees and the underbrush to move up for me.
Ballyneal -- pure fun, entertainment and never a dull moment -- only measurably so-so element for me was the final two par-4's.
Rock Creek -- simply loved the layout -- only weak hole for me the finale. the best collection of Doak par-4 holes I have ever played
NGLA -- any design student needs to see it -- awesome in all senses of the word for the scope of what it provided. citizen kane golf
Winged Foot / West -- the most intense and discerning course that elicits the least amount of love.

Third Five

Crystal Downs -- the toughest short course one can play.
Prairie Dunes -- when wind is up -- the yardage becomes immaterial -- great greens and the 8th is on my short list for great holes.
Pebble Beach -- when firm and fast and the wind up it's everything and more. still has a few so-so holes that keep it down for me.
Fisher's Island -- hard to beat on a sunny summer afternoon -- the best of the Raynor layouts for me.
Pinehurst #2 -- when firm and fast and with ample fairway widths works for me -- takes more than one play to "get it"

Fourth Five

Black Mesa -- just a superb public facility for those unable to get to the ones listed above it. Superb scenery and range of holes.
The Kingsley Club -- likely should be higher but would need a second visit to confirm my original lovefest for it.
Riviera -- love when the course plays firm -- incredible range of decisions for player to decide upon. 18th is everything they say & more.
The Ocean Course / Kiawah -- often thought of as a unrelenting beast -- the course has such a range of elasticity and even playability
Pacific Dunes -- wonderful setting and the best ending with a par-4, par-3 and par-5 closing.

Fifth Five

Plainfield -- one of the most underrated layouts in the metro area and flies way too low nationally.
Bayonne -- just totally man created and works well even when in tight quarters -- goes beyond shadow creek in such a similar category
Mauna Kea -- great upgrade from Rees Jones and likely the best RTJ course I have played. The 11th is one of the best long par-3 holes
Bethpage / Black -- don't like many of the post changes -- the 18th especially -- but still a top notch design and test.
Red Ledges -- gets little attention but Jack's most striking layout with UT scenery and design elements that are first rate.


Greg Tallman

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #283 on: April 09, 2010, 06:58:25 PM »
Pardon me for interrupting this rather entertaining back and forth but here goes...

Pinehurst #2
The Ocean Course - Kiawah
Cabo del Sol - Ocean
Diamante
Muirfield Village
Mid Ocean
Pete Dye
TPC Sawgrass
Laurel Valley
Grandfather
World Woods Pine Barrens
Fox Chape
lLong Cove
Troon North
May River
Querencia
Emerald Dunes
Southern Dunes (zero housing)
Bahia del los Sueños
Bay Hill
World Woods Rolling Oaks
Fiddlesticks Long Mean
Bonita Bay - Bay Island
Olde Mill GC

I need to get out more!

I suppose taking those up on invites to Cypress, LACC, MPCC and others is a must as well as getting to Bandon after June 3.











« Last Edit: April 09, 2010, 08:19:23 PM by Greg Tallman »

Andrew Cunningham

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #284 on: April 09, 2010, 09:53:53 PM »
Cypress Point Club
Pebble Beach
Oakland Hills
Oakmont
Riviera
LACC
Winged Foot West
National Golf Club of Canada
SFCC
Sagebrush
Olympic CC
St. Georges (Canada)
Bethpage Black
Pinehurst No.2
Sebonack
Plainfield CC
Butler National
Banff Springs
TPC Sawgrass
Inverness
Kittansett
Devil's Paintbrush (Canada)
Mayacama
Sahalee
Rich Harvest Links

Bonus course to take your wife on a surprise trip - Farimont Montebello, QC

Brian Potash

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #285 on: April 09, 2010, 09:57:30 PM »
CPC
Oakmont
Shinnecock
LACC North
NGLA
Seminole
Friars Head
Prairie Dunes
Ballyneal
Plainfield
Merion 
Bethpage Black
Quaker Ridge
Sleepy Hollow
Somerset Hills
Wannamoisett
Streamsong Blue
Kittansett
Hollywood
Whipporwill
Riviera
Oak Hill - East
Sebonack
Kinloch
Yale



Brian
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Andy Troeger

Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #286 on: April 09, 2010, 11:54:56 PM »
Here goes and will be fun to compare 10 years from now.

No particular order

Merion East
Oakmont
Quaker Ridge
Teeth of the Dog
Seminole
Hudson National
Sleepy Hollow
Metedeconk
Broadmoor East
Bethpage Black
Bethpage Red
Tamarack
Metropolis
Kapalua Plantation
Makena North/South
We Ko Pa (Cholla)
Red Sky Ranch - Norman
Sebonack
Prince Course
Wailea - Emerald (first time to break 90)
University of Michigan
Caledonia Golf and Fish
Engineers
North Shore CC
Ballyowen

This coming summer-

Maidstone
Century

Brian

Brian,
I can literally say that not one single course from my top 25 just FIVE years ago makes my current top 25. Only three of those courses make my current top 50: Crooked Stick, Point O'Woods and South Bend CC.

V. Kmetz

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #287 on: April 10, 2010, 12:26:27 AM »
I'll bite...

1.  I never reveal but it is the least covered Raynor-Banks course

The rest are in no particular order...

Yale
Fishers Island
Winged Foot East
(and West)
NGLA
Shinnecock
Tallgrass (long island)
Mohansic (Westchester county public)
Siwanoy
CC of Fairfield
Century
Garden City
Fairchild-Wheeler Red Course (public in Bridgeport CT)
Stanwich
Bethpage Black
(and Red)
Inwood
Apawamis
Quaker Ridge
Baltusrol (lower)
Morefar
Hotchkiss school course
Millbrook (9-holer Greenwich CT)


i'll leave #25 for the future
"The tee shot must first be hit straight and long between a vast bunker on the left which whispers 'slice' in the player's ear, and a wilderness on the right which induces a hurried hook." -

Brent Carlson

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #288 on: April 10, 2010, 01:53:55 AM »
As of 7/14

In groups, no order within

First 5

Royal Dornoch
Muirfield
The Old Course
Ballybunion
Royal County Down

Second 5

Crystal Downs
Pacific Dunes
Pebble Beach
Old MacDonald
Royal Portrush

Third 5

Dismal Red
Ballyneal
Chambers Bay
Pasatiempo
North Berwick

Fourth 5

Portmarnock
Kingsley Club
Arcadia Bluffs
High Pointe
Lahinch

Fifth 5

French Lick Ross
Rustic Canyon
Lawsonia Links
Forest Dunes
Erin Hills
« Last Edit: July 02, 2014, 11:36:33 AM by Brent Carlson »

Matt_Ward

Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #289 on: April 10, 2010, 08:40:41 AM »
What's interesting in observing the listing of courses people have posted is that with the exception of the really elite old time classic courses the bulk of what is being mentioned are newer layouts. Candidly, I see the range of newer courses getting more air time on this thread than you see being outlined by the major mags themselves.

I think there are way too many courses from the bygone era -- deemed to be "great" that are frankly only "great" because they happen to reside in the same general vicinity as more legitimate big brother and sister layouts.

We may not look at the existing time frame and extending back to say 1990 or so as a great period for course development but the impact is certainly there given what people are listing. Just a few thoughts to ponder ...

JR Potts

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #290 on: April 10, 2010, 09:15:55 AM »
1. Shoreacres
2. San Francisco
3. Medinah #3
4. Erin Hills
5. Whistling Straits
6. Riviera
7. Spyglass
8. Pebble Beach
9. Beverly
10. Butler National
11. Chicago Golf
12. Olympia Fields North
13. Shoal Creek
14. Pine Needles
15. Isleworth
16. Blackwolf Run (River)
17. Pinehurst #4
18. Pinehurst #2
19. Lost Dunes
20. Lake Nona
21. Old Overton
22. Blackwolf Run (Meadows Valley)
23. Greyhawk (Raptor)
24. Troon North
25. PGA National
« Last Edit: October 06, 2010, 02:07:08 PM by Ryan Potts »

Terry Lavin

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #291 on: April 11, 2010, 08:54:10 AM »
And those are just the good courses...Has there ever been a thread "Worst 25 courses played"?

OK, I'll bite at this:

Tamarack

Forward Jans

Wilmette

Indian Valley

Seven Bridges

Monster 9 at Rob Roy

Arlington Lakes

Glendale Lakes

Nordic Hills

Countryside

Evergreen

Arlington Park's course

Hilldale

Oak Brook Hills

Oh, what is the name of that really crappy course in Vernon Hills?

Cress Creek

Klein Creek

Chick Evans

Rolling Green

Ravinia Greens

Thunderbird

Arboretum  GC

Palatine Hills

Mission Hills

I tried, but I have to stop....I'm getting sick to my stomach...





Evergreen (where I learned to hack-slap-and-chop finally makes a list on GCA.  I might puke as well!  BTW, at least eight of my worst ever are on here.  Well done.
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Sven Nilsen

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #292 on: April 11, 2010, 01:38:46 PM »
Dave:

Do the Links at Carillon make that list?
"As much as we have learned about the history of golf architecture in the last ten plus years, I'm convinced we have only scratched the surface."  A GCA Poster

"There's the golf hole; play it any way you please." Donald Ross

John Moore II

Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #293 on: April 11, 2010, 08:43:46 PM »
My top 25 courses played, in alphabetical order. I'm not even going to attempt to rank them numerically. #1 on the list is easy, I could most likely give a top 5, but pretty much 2-5 would be interchangeable. Comment away.

Bear's Best Atlanta
Bryan Park (Champions)
CCNC (Dogwood)
Duke Golf Club
Eagle Point
Forest Creek (North)
Foxfire (Original)
Golden Horseshoe (Gold)
Mattaponi Springs
Mid South
Moose Run (River)
NCSU Lonnie Poole
Park Ridge
PGA (Dye)
Pinehurst #1
Pinehurst #5
Pine Needles
The President  (Eagle)
Riverfront
Southern Pines
Tanglewood Park (Champions)
Thanksgiving Point
Tobacco Road
TPC Wakefield Plantation
Wilmington GC


Edit from before, I've played some good courses here recently and I've really thought about some other courses. Taking off #2 because I haven't played the whole course, just 1/3 of it and walked the rest. So I'm taking that one off. Updated courses in RED.
« Last Edit: April 11, 2010, 08:50:25 PM by John K. Moore »

Wade Whitehead

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #294 on: April 11, 2010, 09:16:46 PM »
Alphabetically:

Ballyhack
Bryan Park (Champions)
Cascades
Conewango Valley Club
Countryside
Dunes Golf Club [Seville]
Glen Mills
Greenbrier (Old White)
Harbor Town
Holston Valley
Kinloch
Lost Canyons (Sky)
The Olde Farm
Pete Dye River Course of Virginia Tech
Philadelphia Cricket Club (Wissahickon)
Pine Hill
Primland (Highlands Links)
Redlands Mesa
Roanoke Country Club
Royal New Kent
Snowshoe (Raven)
Spring Island (Old Tabby Links)
Tobacco Road
The Virginian
World Woods (Pine Barrens)

Some receive universal praise and others are listed for personal or quirky reasons.  Two are now closed.  One is arguably the worst-conditioned golf course I've ever seen.

WW

Jeff Martz

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #295 on: April 12, 2010, 12:00:14 AM »
I envy these lists.


  Keith,

  Just stick around on the site.......your list will get better.

  Anthony


Whew!  That's good to hear.  I only have two courses that I feel comfortable posting, and they were both on the same trip.

1. Crystal Downs
2. Kingsley Club
"To design courses that can be enjoyed even when you're playing badly, and that will stand the test of time, is the art of golf architecture." -- Tom Doak

Jim Nugent

Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #296 on: April 12, 2010, 02:24:35 AM »
Ryan Potts, a couple of your rankings may raise some eyebrows.  I'm thinking of:

*  WS so high, and above Riviera, Pebble, and Pinehurst #2
*  Spyglass over Pebble.

Any comments?   


Jim Franklin

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #297 on: April 12, 2010, 10:25:34 AM »
Jim F:

Wade Hampton 25th ?


I went and checked my wall (that's where I rank my courses from 1-100 in my ball rack) and Wade Hampton was not #25, Kingsley Club was. Wade was actually #28 with two Idaho courses in between. With that said, I loved Wade Hampton. I played it in early October on a beautiful day and the course was majestic. I can't wait to play it again.
Mr Hurricane

Chris Roselle

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #298 on: April 12, 2010, 11:03:40 AM »
Brand new member, first post ever, here goes:

The order fluctuates from day to day......

1. Pine Valley
2. Merion
3. Shinnecock
3. Oakmont
4. Pebble Beach
5. Chicago GC
6. Southern Hills
7. Ballybunion
8. Lahinch
9. Old Head
10. Southern Hills
11. Gulph Mills GC
12. Portmarnock GC
13. Waterville
14. Saucon Valley (Old)
15. Aronimink
16. Pinehurst #2
17. Peachtree GC
18. Atlanta Athletic Club
19. Country Club of Detroit
20. Galloway National Golf Club
21. The European Club
22. Baltusrol (Lower)
23. Stonewall (Old)
24. Rosses Point (Sligo)

and last but not least, the course I learned the game on....

25. Overbrook Golf Club

Honorable Mention (could be on the list depending on the day)
26. Rolling Green
27. East Lake
28. Harbor Town GL
29. Hollywood GC
30. Philadelphia Cricket Club (wissahickon)

JR Potts

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #299 on: April 12, 2010, 11:46:00 AM »
Ryan Potts, a couple of your rankings may raise some eyebrows.  I'm thinking of:

*  WS so high, and above Riviera, Pebble, and Pinehurst #2
*  Spyglass over Pebble.

Any comments?    



A lot of these reankings raise some eyebrows.   :)


This is a list of MY personal Top 25.  I have always loved Whisting Straits.  As a midwest guy that doesn't travel a ton to play , it is an abosulte marvel that it is 2 hours from my front door.   I find the golf course to be extremely challenging and since they replanted all the green surrounds with bent instead of fescue, very playable.  I'm not in love with the 5th hole but besides that I don't see a weak hole on the course.

Why above Pebble?  I thought there were some rather pedestrian holes on the course.  It was also pouring rain and very very wet so I ddin't get the full experience.

Why above Riviera?  I absolutely loved Riviera.  I thought it was enjoyable, had the appropriate level of nuance but it didn't wow me like WS.  I think the 18th hole is one of if not the finest par 4s I've ever played but the 12th-17th hole ever just merely above average for me....not great.

And why above #2?  I think I may have overrated #2.  I thought the the first 5 holese at #2 were great.....and then I was disappointed for the next 10 holes.  I didn't get #2 - as a whole.  The fairways were just strange and the width of the course didn't look right to me.  I thought the greens were fun and challenging but it didn't wow me at all.  I really look forward to seeing what C&C do....as from what I've read, it is going to make a huge difference in my perception and enjoyment of the course.

And Spyglass over Pebble?  Absolutely.  I'm a big golf course kind of guy.  Spyglass, when it turns into the trees is just awesome.  Juxtoposed against the starting 4 holes, it is even better.  I don't think that Spyglass had a bad hole on the course.  It really passed the "eye test" for me.

Those are my opinions.  And sorry for any grammar and spacing issues...my comupter is really making it hard to type on this site.  I need to get it fixed as I can't see what I'm typing.

EDIT - Oh, and I forgot Shadow Creek....probably falls around 15....above #2.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2010, 11:58:09 AM by Ryan Potts »

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