[Sean_A]

Sean:

Fair enough.

I'll put together such a list with a bit of time to think it through. I don't have any Asian or Aussie / NZ selections but will throw together something by early in the week.

The bulk of such couses will come from UK / Ireland, Canada, the island off North America and Mexico, to name just a few other places.

Sean, be curious to see your USA only listing of the top 25.

Matt

What happened?  Cat got yer tongue? 

Anybody else loosened their tongues yet?

Ciao

[Mark Arata]

In no particular order...25 usa

1Cypress Point
2Prairie Dunes
3Pacific Dunes
4Fishers Island
5Pebble Beach
6Crystal Downs
7Pasatiempo
8Kingsley Club
9Yale
10Cal Club
11SFGC
12Riviera
13Pinehurst #2
14Rustic Caynon
15Atlantic City CC
16Plainfield
17Olympic Club
18MPCC Shores
19Olympic Club - Lake
20Southern Hills
21Fenway
22Fallen Oak
23Shadow Creek
24Lost Dunes
25Lawsonia Links

[Sean Leary]

In no particular order...25 usa

1Cypress Point
2Prairie Dunes
3Pacific Dunes
4Fishers Island
5Pebble Beach
6Crystal Downs
7Pasatiempo
8Kingsley Club
9Yale
10Cal Club
11SFGC
12Riviera
13Pinehurst #2
14Rustic Caynon
15Atlantic City CC
16Plainfield
17Olympic Club
18MPCC Shores
19Olympic Club - Lake
20Southern Hills
21Fenway
22Fallen Oak
23Shadow Creek
24Lost Dunes
25Lawsonia Links

17 and 19 are the same. No Flint Hills?

[Patrick Glynn]

My Top 25, in order are: (edit to include rounds played)

1. Royal County Down (2)
2. Sand Hills (15+)
3. Pine Valley (1) (though in all fairness, I think these 3 are pretty much perfect)
4. Muirfield HCEG (4)
5. Crystal Downs (3)
6. Lahinch (500 :-p)
7. Pacific Dunes (6)
8. San Francisco Golf Club (1)
9. Pasatiempo (35)
10. The Old Course, St. Andrews (6)
11. Ballybunion Old (2)
12. Shoreacres (1)
13. Bandon Trails (5)
14. Franklin Hills (3)
15. Carnoustie (1)
16. Royal Portrush (2)
16. Erin Hills circa 2008 (1)
17. Portmarnock (2)
18. Oakland Hills South (1.5)
19. The Castle Course, St. Andrews (1)
20. Lookout Mountain (20)
21. Bandon Dunes (4)
22. Holston Hills (1)
23. Meadow Club (2)
24. Bayonne (1)
25. Olympia Fields South (6)

[Terry Lavin]

1. Sand Hills
2. Pacific Dunes
3. Cypress Point
4. Riviera
5. Prairie Dunes
6. Bandon Dunes
7. Pebble Beach
8. LACC North
9. Olympia Fields North
10. Shoreacres
11. Olympic Club
12. Spyglass
13. Butler National
14. Medinah #3
15. Pinehurst #2
16. Beverly
17. Chicago Golf Club
18. Shadow Creek
19. Cherry Hills
20. TPC Sawgrass
21. Long Cove
22. Harbourtown
23. Whistling Straits
24. Shoal Creek
25. Old Tabby Links

Honorable Mention:  Dunes Club, which is only 9 holes
Most likely upcoming courses to sneak into the Top Ten: Old MacDonald and Oakmont

[Mark Arata]

Sorry, I was moving stuff around......

Would probably throw World Woods in, but I did like Flint Hills........would have thrown Beechtree in there if it still existed!

[Brad Tufts]

Here goes, in order, with # of plays:

Shinnecock Hills (1)
Cypress Point (1)
Merion Golf Club-East (2)
The Old Course (2)
Prestwick Golf Club (2)
Ballyneal (1)
Prairie Dunes (5)
Pacific Dunes (3)
Royal County Down (1, in a maelstrom)
Royal Portrush - Dunluce (1)
Ballybunion (Old) (1)
Pebble Beach (1)
The Country Club (Composite Course, which I played twice in the Mass Am last year)
Essex County Club (25ish)
Myopia Hunt Club (50ish)
Bethpage (Black) (1)
Royal Dornoch (Champ) (1)
Pinehurst (No. 2) (2)
Turnberry (1)
Cruden Bay (Champ) (1)
Bandon Dunes (3)
Kapalua Resort (Plantation) (3)
Monterey Peninsula CC (Shore) (1)
Newport (1)
Salem Country Club (5)

My "next ten" are Sebonack, County Louth, Plainfield, Carne, Olympic (Lake), Barona Creek, LACC-North, Bandon Trails, Winged Foot (West) and Ekwanok.  All of those are one play save for Barona and Ekwanok, which are two plays each.

[Pat Burke]

It will become obvious that it is an "area specific" list, with a couple of exceptions.
It will also become obvious, that considering I played for 8 years on tour, I wasn't impressed by too many
courses out there.  Australia Tour played much better courses on average

1  CPC
2  Kingston Heath
3  Royal Melbourne
4  TOC
5  Pebble Beach
6  Plainfield
7  New South wales
8  NGL
9  Winged Foot
10 Victoria (Melbourne)
11 Ridgewood
12 Ridgewood  (any combos )
13 Hollywood
14 Mountain Ridge
15 Royal Adelaide
16 Riviera
17 Forsgate
18 TPC sawgrass
19 Carnoustie
20 Essex County
21 Whipporwil
22 Montclair
23 Banff
24 Quaker Ridge
25 Somerset hills

[Mark Arata]

nice call on Essex County, should have put that on mine.........

Where in Jersey are you from Pat? I grew up in Wayne......

[Pat Burke]

nice call on Essex County, should have put that on mine.........

Where in Jersey are you from Pat? I grew up in Wayne......

Grew up, errr..was raised   on the Jersey Shore.
Dad was a long time Head pro at Deal.    Moved to California in '81 when I was 19.

Having parents and a grandfather that were golf pros made access pretty good for a snot nosed kid!

[Michael Wharton-Palmer]

In no certain order..many I cannot seperate..

Royal Birkdale
Merion
Pine Valley
Cypress Point
Old course
Pebble Beach
San Fransisco Golf
Kingsley
Ballyneal
Sand Hills
Western Gailes
Pacific Dunes
Woodhall Spa
Royal Cinque Ports
Desert Forest
Oakmont
Kiawha Ocean
Inverness
Oak Hill...despite the Fazio touches
Royal Troon
Portmarnock
Hillside
Garden City
Fishers Island
Betpage Black

[Chip Gaskins]

In no certain order..many I cannot seperate..

Royal Birkdale
Merion
Pine Valley
Cypress Point
Old course
Pebble Beach
San Fransisco Golf
Kingsley
Ballyneal
Sand Hills
Western Gailes
Pacific Dunes
Woodhall Spa
Royal Cinque Ports
Desert Forest
Oakmont
Kiawha Ocean
Inverness
Oak Hill...despite the Fazio touches
Royal Troon
Portmarnock
Hillside
Garden City
Fishers Island
Betpage Black

Michael-

Where is Hillside?

Chip

[scott anderson]

1   Pine Valley      
2   Pebble Beach      
3   Chicago Golf Club      
4   Sand Hills      
5   Merion      
6   San Francisco Golf Club      
7   Pacific Dunes      
8   Winged Foot West      
9   Olympic Club Lake      
10   Monterey Peninsula Shore      
11   World Woods Pine Barrens      
12   Medinah      
13   Spyglass      
14   Interlachen      
15   The Quarry LaQuinta
16   Kiawah Ocean
17   White Bear Yacht Club
18   Stanford
19   Pasatiempo
20   Somerset
21   Cal Club
22   Greenbrier Old White
23   Whistling Straits
24   Northland
25   The Reserve Palm Desert

[Mike_Clayton]

15. Kingston Heath (One of the few sandbelt courses that could be improved.)


Anthony,
I am assuming you mean 'one of the few sandbelt courses that could not be improved'

[Andy Troeger]

Oh why not...here goes.

Alpha Order

The Alotian Club
Baltimore CC East (Five Farms)
Black Mesa
Black Rock (ID)
Blackwolf Run River
Castle Pines
Chambers Bay
Crystal Downs
Cypress Point
Forest Highlands Canyon
The Golf Club (OH)
Gozzer Ranch
Kingsley Club
Muirfield Village
Pasatiempo
Pebble Beach
Prairie Dunes
Riviera
Rock Creek Cattle Company
Spyglass Hill
TPC at Sawgrass Stadium
Valley Club of Montecito
Victoria National
Whistling Straits
Wolf Run

[Sean_A]

In no certain order..many I cannot seperate..

Royal Birkdale
Merion
Pine Valley
Cypress Point
Old course
Pebble Beach
San Fransisco Golf
Kingsley
Ballyneal
Sand Hills
Western Gailes
Pacific Dunes
Woodhall Spa
Royal Cinque Ports
Desert Forest
Oakmont
Kiawha Ocean
Inverness
Oak Hill...despite the Fazio touches
Royal Troon
Portmarnock
Hillside
Garden City
Fishers Island
Betpage Black

Michael-

Where is Hillside?

Chip

Chip

Next door to Birkdale.

http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,35092.0/

Ciao

[Jim Franklin]

Oh why not...here goes.

Alpha Order

The Alotian Club
Baltimore CC East (Five Farms)
Black Mesa
Black Rock (ID)
Blackwolf Run River
Castle Pines
Chambers Bay
Crystal Downs
Cypress Point
Forest Highlands Canyon
The Golf Club (OH)
Gozzer Ranch
Kingsley Club
Muirfield Village
Pasatiempo
Pebble Beach
Prairie Dunes
Riviera
Rock Creek Cattle Company
Spyglass Hill
TPC at Sawgrass Stadium
Valley Club of Montecito
Victoria National
Whistling Straits
Wolf Run

Come on Andy, numerical order. We know you have numbers for these courses too .

[Matt_Ward]

Sean A:

Speaking of cat grabbing their tongue -- where is your USA only top 25 listing that I asked for some time ago.

Inquiring minds want to know.

I'll be sure to present my overall top 25 shortly ... if you behave !

[Sean_A]

Sean A:

Speaking of cat grabbing their tongue -- where is your USA only top 25 listing that I asked for some time ago.

Inquiring minds want to know.

I'll be sure to present my overall top 25 shortly ... if you behave !

Its a bitch when yer memory fades.  At least my suspicion that the list I presented wasn't very memorable proved to be true.

"Sean:

Mainly Pennsy and MI courses.

Curious to know what you liked so much at OH/S.

Thanks ..."

Ciao

[Matt_Ward]

Sean:

Love your tap dance of avoidance -- just post your top 25 USA listing.

You want mine worldwide -- happy to oblige -- when you fork something over too.

[Sean_A]

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[Matt_Ward]

Sean:

I like the diversionary tactics -- but push all the smoke aside -- you want to see my all-world top 25 -- fair enough.

Post your top 25 USA only listing as you've been asked several times now.

[Jim Franklin]

Matt -

If I list mine, will you list yours? I will even take a PM version as I am curious. Thanks.

[Sean_A]

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[Matt_Ward]

Sean:

You can huff and puff all you want -- your top USA listing is missing. Hello anybody home ?

Mainly PA and MI courses. OK -- provide them in some sort of listing. Geeze Sean, what's the problem in cooperating ?

Jim:

Yes, throw yours forward -- happy to oblige someone like youself.

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