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Sean_A

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #1150 on: May 25, 2022, 11:00:24 AM »
My Favourite 25

Kington...England...2*
Palmetto...S Carolina...2*
Old Town...N Carolina...2*
Castlerock Bann...N Ireland...1*
Cavendish...England ...1*       
St Enodoc...England...2*   
Welshpool...Wales...1*
Cleeve Cloud...England...R
Alnmouth Village...England...1*
Reigate Heath...England...1*
Aiken...S Carolina...1*
Lakewood Shores Gailes...Michigan...1*
Lederach...Penn...R
Pennard...Wales...1*
Royal Dornoch...Scotland...1*
Perranporth...England...1*
St Andrews New...Scotland...1*
Corballis Links...Ireland...R
Southerndown...Wales...1*
Appleby...England...R
Reddish Vale..England...R
Llandrindod Wells...Wales...R
Oxford...England...R
TOC...Scotland...3*
Elie...Scotland...1*
   
Updated 17.03.20

RECOMMENDATION GUIDE                  

3* Donít Miss For Any Reason                 
2* Plan A Significant Trip Around This Course                 
1* Worth An Overnight Stay                 
R Worth A Significant Day Trip (no more driving than it takes to play and have drinks)                 
r  A Good Fall Back On/Trip Filler                 
NR Not Recommended       

Ciao

Almost six years on! Kington still on top.

Kington...England...2*
Old Town...N Carolina...2*
Palmetto...S Carolina...2*
Castlerock Bann...N Ireland...1*
Cleeve Hill...England...1*
Cavendish...England ...1*   
Alnmouth Village...England...1*
Gullane 3...Scotland...1*   
Welshpool...Wales...1*
Reigate Heath...England...1*
Aiken...S Carolina...1*
Lakewood Shores Gailes...Michigan...1*
Church Stretton...England...1*
Painswick...England...1*
Lederach...Penn...R
Reddish Vale...England...1*
St Enodoc...England...1*
Perranporth...England...1*
Porthcawl...Wales...2*
Corballis Links...Ireland...R
Southerndown...Wales...1*
Appleby...England...R
Minch Old...England...R
North Berwick...Scotland...2*
Pulborough...England...1*

Pennard...Wales...1*
Royal Dornoch...Scotland...1*
St Andrews New...Scotland...1*
Llandrindod Wells...Wales...R
Oxford...England...R
TOC...Scotland...3*
Elie...Scotland...1*


Ciao
« Last Edit: May 25, 2022, 11:16:37 AM by Sean_A »
New plays planned for 2022: Erewash, St Pats, The Loop x2, Arcadia Bluffs South & Crystal Downs

Tommy Williamsen

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #1151 on: May 25, 2022, 11:18:22 AM »
Why no Dornoch or TOC?
Tom Williamsen
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St. John of the Cross

Sean_A

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #1152 on: May 25, 2022, 11:22:24 AM »
Why no Dornoch or TOC?


Too expensive these days.  Massive green fee hikes in recent years.

Ciao
« Last Edit: May 25, 2022, 12:56:26 PM by Sean_A »
New plays planned for 2022: Erewash, St Pats, The Loop x2, Arcadia Bluffs South & Crystal Downs

Cal Carlisle

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #1153 on: May 25, 2022, 11:29:50 AM »
This is a pretty old thread, I'd be curious to know if personal opinions have risen or fallen post reno / resto for the courses that have had them.

Ira Fishman

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #1154 on: May 25, 2022, 11:55:16 AM »
Until it changes tonight.


Lahinch
CPC
NB
PH2
Somerset Hills
Ballyneal
Woking
Pasatiempo
St. Georgeís Hill
Bandon Trails
Swinley Forest
Friarís Head
Primland
PD
Golspie
Mid Pines
The Island Club
Brora
Elie
RD
Pine Needles
Ballybunion Old
Streamsong Blue
Waterville
Kilspindie


In order of my enjoyment in playing the course, not my assessment of architectural merit (although there is a pretty strong correspondence). For example, there are several courses superior to Golspie, Elie, and Kilspindie, but those are just so darn fun to play. I also have a bias toward MP and PN because we have played them the most frequently. Toughest to leave off: Streamsong Red, Ridgewood, Old Mac, Crail Balcomie, and Hope Valley (too much home club bias for HV to include).


To answer Calís question, Somerset, Ballyneal, Friarís Head, SS Blue are all new plays in the past year. Woking moved up because I find myself replaying in my head frequently. Primland moved up because we do not go there because staying there has become outrageously expensive, but I find myself missing the courseóunique architecture and maybe the most aesthetically compelling course that is not on the water.


Btw, for those of you who like rankings, top100courses released their new Top 100s for Scotland, Ireland, and England about 10 days ago. St. Patrickís busted into the Big 5 in Ireland.


Ira
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Michael Moore

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #1155 on: May 25, 2022, 12:28:09 PM »
Ira -
 
What makes a course abbreviation worthy?
Metaphor is social and shares the table with the objects it intertwines and the attitudes it reconciles. Opinion, like the Michelin inspector, dines alone. - Adam Gopnik, The Table Comes First

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #1156 on: May 25, 2022, 12:36:00 PM »
Ira -
 
What makes a course abbreviation worthy?


Pasa didnít make the cut.

Mike Worth

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #1157 on: May 25, 2022, 01:44:54 PM »
Ok, I'll play :-).  Roughly ranked ordered. 


1.  Pine Valley
2.  NGLA
3.  Shinnecock
4.  St. Andrews (Old Course)
5.  Plainfield
6.  Fishers Island
7.  St. George Hill
8.  Kingsbarn
9.  Castle Stuart
10.  Prestwick
11.  Troon
12.  Royal Dornoch
13.  Sleepy Hollow
14.  Galloway
15.  St. Andrews (New)
16.  Pinehurst #2
17.  Kiawah Ocean
18.  Ballybunion (Old)
19.  Ridgewood
20.  Waterville
21.  Lahinch
22.  World Woods
23.  Boston Golf Club
24.  Jupiter Hills
25.  Kittanset


Honorable mention:

Highland Links, Brora, Hidden Creek, Atlantic City, Leatherstocking, Taconic
« Last Edit: May 26, 2022, 09:23:12 AM by Mike Worth »

Ira Fishman

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #1158 on: May 25, 2022, 02:59:53 PM »
Ira -
 
What makes a course abbreviation worthy?


Pasa didnít make the cut.


Lol to both. Abbreviations are easier to type and use them for courses frequently abbreviated here so people know them.


JK, I know of your lack of warm and fuzzy for Pasa. I should have abbreviated it.


Ira

Jon Heise

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #1159 on: May 25, 2022, 03:56:47 PM »
2022:


(I'm sure I've replied here a couple times but hey...)


No order outside of number one and number two being locked in.




1 Old Course
2 Pac Dunes
3 Muirfield
4 Portmarnock
5 Greywalls
6 Bandon Dunes
7 Old Mac
8 North Berwick
9 Lawsonia
10 Pasatiempo
11 Meadow Club
12 Chicago
13 Olympia North
14 Onwentsia
15 Streamsong Blue
16 Arcadia Bluffs
17 Crystal Downs
18 Cabot Links
19 Royal County Down
20 Sand Valley
21 Pinehurst No. 2
22 Culver
23 Trails
24 Kingsley
25 Pebble
I still like Greywalls better.

John Handley

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #1160 on: May 25, 2022, 05:48:45 PM »
Haven't thought about this in a while:




1. Cypress Point
2. Royal County Down
3. St. Andrews Old Course
4. Royal Portrush Dunluce
5. Oakmont
6. Cal Club
7. Royal Dornoch
8.. Muirfield
9. Lahinch
10. Pebble Beach
11. Turnberry Ailsa
12. Pacific Dunes
13. Merion
14. Ballybunion Old Course
15. Los Angeles CC North
16. Pinehurst #2
17. Winged Foot West
18. Riviera
19. Bandon Dunes
20. San Francisco GC
21. North Berwick West
22. Kingsbarns
23. Carnoustie
24. Whistling Straits Straits Course
25. Maidstone




Honorable Mentions:
Portmarnock Old
Bandon Trails
Rock Creek Cattle Co.
Olympic Club Lake Course
Dallas National
Spanish Oaks GC
Twin Dolphin
Cruden Bay
Muirfield Village
Castle Stuart
Ballyneal
Royal Troon Old
TPC Sawgrass
Bethpage Black
Diamante Dunes
Whispering Pines GC


DFarron

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #1161 on: May 26, 2022, 12:53:50 PM »
My Top 25 for Pure Enjoyment




Cypress
Pebble
Shinnecock
Prairie Dunes
Chicago GC
Pasatiempo
Cal Club
Menlo CC
SFGC
MPCC Dunes
Olympic Club Lake
Spyglass
Yeamans Hall
Ocean Course at Kiawah
Muirfield
Old Course
Brookside GC Canton
Canterbury
Carnoustie
North Berwick
Camargo
Maidstone
Inverness
Scioto
Muirfield Village

Sean_A

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #1162 on: June 10, 2022, 03:27:22 AM »
Haven't thought about this in a while:




1. Cypress Point
2. Royal County Down
3. St. Andrews Old Course
4. Royal Portrush Dunluce
5. Oakmont
6. Cal Club
7. Royal Dornoch
8.. Muirfield
9. Lahinch
10. Pebble Beach
11. Turnberry Ailsa
12. Pacific Dunes
13. Merion
14. Ballybunion Old Course
15. Los Angeles CC North
16. Pinehurst #2
17. Winged Foot West
18. Riviera
19. Bandon Dunes
20. San Francisco GC
21. North Berwick West
22. Kingsbarns
23. Carnoustie
24. Whistling Straits Straits Course
25. Maidstone




Honorable Mentions:
Portmarnock Old
Bandon Trails
Rock Creek Cattle Co.
Olympic Club Lake Course
Dallas National
Spanish Oaks GC
Twin Dolphin
Cruden Bay
Muirfield Village
Castle Stuart
Ballyneal
Royal Troon Old
TPC Sawgrass
Bethpage Black
Diamante Dunes
Whispering Pines GC

Twin Dolphin sorta stands out. What gives?

Ciao

New plays planned for 2022: Erewash, St Pats, The Loop x2, Arcadia Bluffs South & Crystal Downs

archie_struthers

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #1163 on: June 10, 2022, 05:47:11 AM »
 ??? ??? ???


Pine Valley
Royal County Down
Portrush
Sand Hills
Shinnecock Hills
Merion
Friars Head
Seminole
Somerset Hills
Winged Foot (west)
Pebble Beach
Philly Cricket (old)
Lancaster CC
Rolling Green
Portstewart
Chicago Golf
Pinehurst #2
Bayonne
Lehigh CC
Indian Creek
Plainfield
Portmarnock
Galloway National
Castlerock
Saucon Valley  (Weyhill)


Tim Martin

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #1164 on: June 10, 2022, 06:36:31 AM »
??? ??? ???


Pine Valley
Royal County Down
Portrush
Sand Hills
Shinnecock Hills
Merion
Friars Head
Seminole
Somerset Hills
Winged Foot (west)
Pebble Beach
Philly Cricket (old)
Lancaster CC
Rolling Green
Portstewart
Chicago Golf
Pinehurst #2
Bayonne
Lehigh CC
Indian Creek
Plainfield
Portmarnock
Galloway National
Castlerock
Saucon Valley  (Weyhill)


Archie-Thatís a great list!!!! 8) Iíve always wanted to play Indian Creek.

Adam Lawrence

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #1165 on: June 10, 2022, 08:23:21 AM »
Haven't thought about this in a while:

1. Cypress Point
2. Royal County Down
3. St. Andrews Old Course
4. Royal Portrush Dunluce
5. Oakmont
6. Cal Club
7. Royal Dornoch
8.. Muirfield
9. Lahinch
10. Pebble Beach
11. Turnberry Ailsa
12. Pacific Dunes
13. Merion
14. Ballybunion Old Course
15. Los Angeles CC North
16. Pinehurst #2
17. Winged Foot West
18. Riviera
19. Bandon Dunes
20. San Francisco GC
21. North Berwick West
22. Kingsbarns
23. Carnoustie
24. Whistling Straits Straits Course
25. Maidstone




Honorable Mentions:
Portmarnock Old
Bandon Trails
Rock Creek Cattle Co.
Olympic Club Lake Course
Dallas National
Spanish Oaks GC
Twin Dolphin
Cruden Bay
Muirfield Village
Castle Stuart
Ballyneal
Royal Troon Old
TPC Sawgrass
Bethpage Black
Diamante Dunes
Whispering Pines GC

Twin Dolphin sorta stands out. What gives?

Ciao

Twin Dolphin is really good. Todd did an excellent job there. I haven't seen Diamante or several of the other contenders so I'm not able to say whether it's the best course in Cabo, but it is very good.

Here's my write up on the course from 2019:

https://www.golfcoursearchitecture.net/content/twin-dolphin-golf-club-natural-selection
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Bob_Garvelink

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #1166 on: June 10, 2022, 07:52:59 PM »
My top 25 is as follows


1. Bandon Dunes
2. Pacific Dunes
3. Bandon Trails
4. Sheep Ranch
5. Old Mac
6. Whistling Straits
7. Mammouth Dunes
8. Sand Valley
9. Arcadia Bluffs
10. Kingsley Club
11. Bay Harbor
12. Erin Hills
13. Oakland Hills South
14. Forest Dunes
15. Streamsong Red
16. Streamsong Blue
17.  The Loop
18. Dunes Club
19. Black Lake
20. Belvedere
21. Lost Dunes
22. Angels Crossing
23. Blackwolf Run
24. Treetops Signature
25. Greywalls
"Pure Michigan"

Bart Bradley

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #1167 on: June 10, 2022, 09:20:56 PM »
My top 25 is as follows


1. Bandon Dunes
2. Pacific Dunes
3. Bandon Trails
4. Sheep Ranch
5. Old Mac
6. Whistling Straits
7. Mammouth Dunes
8. Sand Valley
9. Arcadia Bluffs
10. Kingsley Club
11. Bay Harbor
12. Erin Hills
13. Oakland Hills South
14. Forest Dunes
15. Streamsong Red
16. Streamsong Blue
17.  The Loop
18. Dunes Club
19. Black Lake
20. Belvedere
21. Lost Dunes
22. Angels Crossing
23. Blackwolf Run
24. Treetops Signature
25. Greywalls


Bob: 


Seriously, how can Greywalls be so low?  Black lake above Greywalls?   


Bart

Bob_Garvelink

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Re: Whip it Out: Post your Top 25 Courses Played
« Reply #1168 on: June 11, 2022, 07:56:10 AM »
My top 25 is as follows


1. Bandon Dunes
2. Pacific Dunes
3. Bandon Trails
4. Sheep Ranch
5. Old Mac
6. Whistling Straits
7. Mammouth Dunes
8. Sand Valley
9. Arcadia Bluffs
10. Kingsley Club
11. Bay Harbor
12. Erin Hills
13. Oakland Hills South
14. Forest Dunes
15. Streamsong Red
16. Streamsong Blue
17.  The Loop
18. Dunes Club
19. Black Lake
20. Belvedere
21. Lost Dunes
22. Angels Crossing
23. Blackwolf Run
24. Treetops Signature
25. Greywalls


Bob: 


Seriously, how can Greywalls be so low?  Black lake above Greywalls?   


Bart




Bart,


Ya know what.....after second thought you got me :)  In all seriousness I was sitting next to my wife on the couch while I was making my list and once she realized I was back on that "golf website" I felt like an opposing pitcher coming into Yankee Stadium to trying to close out a game.


I agree that Greywalls is a better golf course thank Black Lake and I will never forget when my buddies and I played it and the driver from the pro shop to the first tee.....we all had huge smiles on our faces.  Greywalls is extremely unique and a must play for anyone in the area.


With that being said Black Lake is one of my all time favorites.  I just love how secluded the courses is and I have yet to play a course that is cut so privately into as thick of forest as Black Lake is.  I also love the "Detroit" feel of the course.  My grandparents lived in the city of Detroit and so did my mother and when I see the local UAW workers up there enjoying some of the finer things in life it reminds me of old school Detroit.  So its probably more about the feel of Black Lake than the course itself if that makes sense. 


I also looked at my list again and have decided to make a new addition :)  I blame this on my wife and the evil eye she was giving me while I was cranking out my top 25 :)


I will say I do love courses on water as they just give me a euphoric feeling while playing but there is now way a Bay Harbor can be ranked better than Kingsley.  I hope to be retired in 10 years or so and my goal is to someday be a member at Kingsley Club.  That course stole my heart.  Hopefully someday soon I will be able to jump back on that amazing track :) 


So here is my new Top 25 Course list


1.  Bandon Dunes
2. Pacific Dunes
3.  Sheep Ranch
4. Whistling Straits
5. Kingsley Club
6. Bandon Trails
7. Old Mac
8. Mammouth Dunes
9. Sand Valley
10. Arcadia Bluffs
11. Erin Hills
12.  Oakland Hills South
13. Greywalls
14. Streamsong Red
15. Streamsong Blue
16. Bay Harbor
17. Forest Dunes
18. Belvedere
19. Black Wolf Run
20. The Loop
21. Black Lake
22. Treetops Signature
23. Angels Crossing
24. Dunes Club
25. Lost Dunes


With that being said I feel solid about my top 10 but after that it gets very hard....not an easy task :)  But I do agree...I like Greywalls better than Black Lake
"Pure Michigan"

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