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Noel Freeman

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Re: NEW ZEALAND: A Master Class in Bunkering
« Reply #50 on: August 17, 2010, 10:27:39 AM »
Deal is MIGHTY... I look forward Friday as the southwesterly is going to blow 20mph



Sean_A

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Re: NEW ZEALAND: A Master Class in Bunkering
« Reply #51 on: May 30, 2011, 04:38:45 AM »
Tom mentions respect because of length.  While New Zealand isn't long, when the course is keen its surprisingly tight for the aggressive player. 

It always a treat to play New Zealand and yesterday was no different.  Take a look at the updated pix.  For sure New Zealand is one of the tigers dressed as a kitten - I always struggle to score.

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New plays planned for 2024: Fraserburgh, Turnberry, Isle of Harris, Benbecula, Askernish, Traigh, St Medan, Hankley Common, Ashridge, Gog Magog Old & Cruden Bay St Olaf

James Boon

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Re: NEW ZEALAND: A Master Class in Bunkering
« Reply #52 on: July 31, 2011, 12:00:11 PM »
After a recent trip to this delightful course without my own camera, i thought I'd bump Sean's thread.

While not a long course, the heather and bunkering still make it quite a challenge. However, the heather appears to be kept pretty young and not too woody, so recovery isn't too difficult, and there aren't many bunkers but those there are, well with the exception of a few that Sean points out, they are all well positioned. Some of the other details of the course are also great, such as the hollows short of the 6th, 13th and 18th holes, making for interesting approaches and recoveries.

But the course isn't especially hilly, and may well be one of the flattest courses I've ever played. But at no point do you start thinking its dull because of this. In fact, being pretty flat, not too long but still a fun challenge, all means I can imagine this would be a great course to play your final years over as an older man...

And finally not forgetting the club itself. A wonderful old clubhouse, with great food and attention to detail, but all in a very understated way. Fantastic stuff!

Cheers,

James

 
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Mark Chaplin

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Re: NEW ZEALAND: A Master Class in Bunkering
« Reply #53 on: July 31, 2011, 02:08:54 PM »
NZ has one of the toughest starts I know of on a short course 1-7 includes three par 3s and four solid par 4 holes. Like Rye and Swinley Forest, the New Zealand course proves pure length is not required for a good challenge. Hitting the short stuff is very important as is solid iron play.

NZ used to be dragged down by spongy slow greens, now the greenkeeper has dried out the greens, done plenty of work and the surfaces are more than acceptable. Given the current rate of their improvement in a couple of years the NZ greens will be as good as any of their peer greens.
« Last Edit: August 01, 2011, 12:33:50 PM by Mark Chaplin »
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Sean_A

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Re: NEW ZEALAND: A Master Class in Bunkering
« Reply #54 on: August 01, 2011, 11:29:59 AM »
Chappers

The last time at NZ I was surprised at how narrow the course plays when F&F.  There are some serious club selection debates which can occur on several tees.  I need to go back again and again and again.

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New plays planned for 2024: Fraserburgh, Turnberry, Isle of Harris, Benbecula, Askernish, Traigh, St Medan, Hankley Common, Ashridge, Gog Magog Old & Cruden Bay St Olaf

Mark Chaplin

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Re: NEW ZEALAND: A Master Class in Bunkering
« Reply #55 on: August 01, 2011, 12:38:52 PM »
Sean you are quite right the fairways are pretty generous and as James stated the heather is kept nice and young and moderately playable. However when the ball runs the fairways play considerably narrower.

NZ would be a wonderful place to play ones twilight years golfing years at. It's flat, short, pretty, a great club but still testing of the players abilities.

Only at NZ would you find a members dog hitching a ride on the marshals/drinks cart. As it was a warm day the driver picked up the tired hound, apparently it's a regular service to members dogs....class!
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Mark_Rowlinson

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Re: NEW ZEALAND: A Master Class in Bunkering
« Reply #56 on: August 01, 2011, 02:54:47 PM »
Yes, New Zealand IS under the radar - and they want it kept that way. I visited the club some years ago to write an article about it for inclusion in a book. But first I had to convince the secretary that I wasn't going to open the floodgates to visitors. I convinced him. They are not overwhelmed by unwanted visitors and I had a very pleasant afternoon wandering the fairways and thoroughly amiable chat with the secretary afterwards. That precious ethos was not damaged.

Sean_A

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Re: NEW ZEALAND GC: A Master Class in Bunkering
« Reply #57 on: October 18, 2012, 07:47:23 AM »
Brian

Those courses weren't in any particular order.  The list hasn't changed much

Ciao
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New plays planned for 2024: Fraserburgh, Turnberry, Isle of Harris, Benbecula, Askernish, Traigh, St Medan, Hankley Common, Ashridge, Gog Magog Old & Cruden Bay St Olaf

Mark Pearce

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Re: NEW ZEALAND GC: A Master Class in Bunkering
« Reply #58 on: October 18, 2012, 09:00:47 AM »
Swinley better than Berkshire Red?  Unlike you to be so orthodox.

Sean_A

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Re: NEW ZEALAND GC: A Master Class in Bunkering
« Reply #59 on: October 20, 2012, 07:51:23 AM »
Mark

I haven't seen Berkshire Red in a long time so I discount that I have ever seen it.  The Red is high on my list to see as is Walton Heath Old, but it still pains me to pay over a 100 quid - maybe one day. 

Ciao 
New plays planned for 2024: Fraserburgh, Turnberry, Isle of Harris, Benbecula, Askernish, Traigh, St Medan, Hankley Common, Ashridge, Gog Magog Old & Cruden Bay St Olaf

Sean_A

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Re: NEW ZEALAND GC: A Master Class in Bunkering
« Reply #60 on: November 18, 2012, 04:15:53 AM »
Brian

New Zealand is something apart isn't it?  As Richard pointed out, the conditioning is improving.  While it was far from bone dry Friday, I didn't have any mud/dirt on me troozers and that is the acid test for winter golf.  That is good going with the rain we have had. 

Ciao
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New plays planned for 2024: Fraserburgh, Turnberry, Isle of Harris, Benbecula, Askernish, Traigh, St Medan, Hankley Common, Ashridge, Gog Magog Old & Cruden Bay St Olaf

Sean_A

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Re: NEW ZEALAND GC: A Master Class in Bunkering
« Reply #61 on: November 17, 2017, 06:44:02 AM »
Has it really been five years since this thread was re-visited?  See the updated tour with some pix I found lost in the vaults.

http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,36467.msg745045.html#msg745045

Ciao
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New plays planned for 2024: Fraserburgh, Turnberry, Isle of Harris, Benbecula, Askernish, Traigh, St Medan, Hankley Common, Ashridge, Gog Magog Old & Cruden Bay St Olaf

Sean_A

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Re: NEW ZEALAND GC: A Master Class in Bunkering
« Reply #62 on: March 02, 2019, 06:40:18 AM »
So F Pont did some work to New Zealand last winter...anyone see the results? 


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New plays planned for 2024: Fraserburgh, Turnberry, Isle of Harris, Benbecula, Askernish, Traigh, St Medan, Hankley Common, Ashridge, Gog Magog Old & Cruden Bay St Olaf

Adam Lawrence

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Re: NEW ZEALAND GC: A Master Class in Bunkering
« Reply #63 on: March 03, 2019, 05:37:40 PM »
Only on Facebook so far. Shaped by Conor Walsh and his crew. Looks good from photos
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Sean_A

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Re: NEW ZEALAND GC: A Master Class in Bunkering
« Reply #64 on: March 09, 2019, 10:29:27 AM »
Only on Facebook so far. Shaped by Conor Walsh and his crew. Looks good from photos

Adam

I am quite surprised the work hasn't received more ink.  Do you know if pushing fairways out is part of the work?

Ciao
New plays planned for 2024: Fraserburgh, Turnberry, Isle of Harris, Benbecula, Askernish, Traigh, St Medan, Hankley Common, Ashridge, Gog Magog Old & Cruden Bay St Olaf

Sean_A

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Re: NEW ZEALAND GC: A Master Class in Bunkering
« Reply #65 on: December 17, 2021, 06:27:22 AM »
Does anyone have updates on the work at NZ?


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New plays planned for 2024: Fraserburgh, Turnberry, Isle of Harris, Benbecula, Askernish, Traigh, St Medan, Hankley Common, Ashridge, Gog Magog Old & Cruden Bay St Olaf

Tom_Doak

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Re: NEW ZEALAND GC: A Master Class in Bunkering
« Reply #66 on: December 17, 2021, 11:08:54 AM »
If the course is as good as you say, Sean, why are they doing anything to it?

Sean_A

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Re: NEW ZEALAND GC: A Master Class in Bunkering
« Reply #67 on: December 17, 2021, 11:26:52 AM »
If the course is as good as you say, Sean, why are they doing anything to it?

I think they did bunker work, but I was hoping that trees were the bigger focus. Haven't heard.

Ciao
New plays planned for 2024: Fraserburgh, Turnberry, Isle of Harris, Benbecula, Askernish, Traigh, St Medan, Hankley Common, Ashridge, Gog Magog Old & Cruden Bay St Olaf

James Reader

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Re: NEW ZEALAND GC: A Master Class in Bunkering
« Reply #68 on: December 17, 2021, 12:07:38 PM »
If the course is as good as you say, Sean, why are they doing anything to it?

I think they did bunker work, but I was hoping that trees were the bigger focus. Haven't heard.

Ciao


CDP have been posting regular updates on Twitter, Sean.  You’ll be pleased to see there has been a lot of tree work.


https://twitter.com/cdpgolf1/status/1458134781594521603?s=21
https://twitter.com/cdpgolf1/status/1457816864608894987?s=21
https://twitter.com/cdpgolf1/status/1453046394768461827?s=21


I was due to play there for the first time a few months ago but it didn’t come off.  It’s high on my wish list for 2022.

Sean_A

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Re: NEW ZEALAND GC: A Master Class in Bunkering
« Reply #69 on: December 18, 2021, 02:41:07 AM »
If the course is as good as you say, Sean, why are they doing anything to it?

I think they did bunker work, but I was hoping that trees were the bigger focus. Haven't heard.

Ciao


CDP have been posting regular updates on Twitter, Sean.  You’ll be pleased to see there has been a lot of tree work.


https://twitter.com/cdpgolf1/status/1458134781594521603?s=21
https://twitter.com/cdpgolf1/status/1457816864608894987?s=21
https://twitter.com/cdpgolf1/status/1453046394768461827?s=21


I was due to play there for the first time a few months ago but it didn’t come off.  It’s high on my wish list for 2022.

Thanks! The photos don't depict that much change. Just a bit of sprucing up. Any more talk of tree removal?

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New plays planned for 2024: Fraserburgh, Turnberry, Isle of Harris, Benbecula, Askernish, Traigh, St Medan, Hankley Common, Ashridge, Gog Magog Old & Cruden Bay St Olaf

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