This discussion group is best enjoyed using Google Chrome, Firefox or Safari.
Eric:Actually the laying of all that black muck from the lake bottoms and such on the holes created something of an agronomic disaster.
"The wild thing that I just realized yesterday is that Cobbs Creek, built by Wilson, Crump, Smith, et.al., in 1915 has some of the most natural looking greensites around, and they are ALL still original (except for 3 which got rebuilt after flooding). Many of them just flow out of the ground, which was much different given the earlier US models."Mike:That's an important point, particularly if it's undeniable true. That's also pretty much the subject that Wayne Morrisson fixates on always wondering why the Macdonald/Raynor style never followed that direction in construction and certainly in look.But to test what you say it probably would be worthwhile to discuss some of the greens or whatever of various architects just to see if they really did try to use natural landforms for most greens and if not if they really tried to hide what they manufactured. I think what we will find is architects of even vastly differing styles this way commonly did both.The other cool thing is to try to determine if the cuts and fills match or balance and if you know how to look for this stuff you can see it obviously almost always did in this old architecture.
JoeWho authored that 1/4/1914 article, the one with the plan. I assumed it was this "Verdant Green" chap, but you haven't listed an author.ThanksPaul