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The "normal" or "solid local" course in the UK destroys the same in the US...snip
Sean, I'm so pleased you liked Stoneham. I've been banging on about it for years. It's interesting to note that the Brabazon Trophy (our national amateur strokeplay) was played there in 1993 and it is a course of 6400 yards. I wonder how they fared with the blind shots. A friend of mine's son, who is now a young professional, played two rounds here as an amateur six or seven years ago. In the morning he shot in the high 80s, falling into all the traps. In the afternoon he was round in 64 or 65 - this time he knew where the traps (and I don't mean bunkers) were!
I missed this post, Sean. Absolutely beautiful. My take re Colt/Park: I don't think Colt was too thrilled with Park blindness (tee shots and bunkers), but I do think he admired Willie's routing skills and ability to locate and utilize natural features.
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I took ATB's advice and stopped by Stoneham for game. My oh my! The simple act of clearing trees makes a world of difference. I last played Stoneham 5 years ago and to be honest I was not that enamoured with the course but after seeing your new pics, I must get back. It looks great, As you say the simple act of tree/shrub cleareance has given the course a breath of fresh air!!
SamI am surprised you didn't care for Stoneham. It seems right up your alley with all those reachable par 5s...Sometimes clearing out trees can spoil a hole a bit. The 13th seems a bit neutered with fewer trees left. Previously, missing left most likely meant a kiss was on the card. Now there is less pressure on the tee. Although, I expect the green prefers having more light! There are some trees on the right side of the fairway which could go. They really serve as outside lining up points for the blind drive...don't see much point in that. CiaoSean,As I said when played last (5 years ago now!!) the course didnt really stir my soul. I felt the course was being slightly suffocated by the encroaching tree/shrub lines. I could see that there was something quite nice on the ground but felt an axe would have been a good 15th club in my bag. Must get back following your new pics. with regards to the 13th, to me I think the pressure of the drive is trying to hit the greens narrow entrance, the trees are neither here or there...