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I would imagine that Rustic Canyon must have an interesting course/slope rating ratio, as well.
Jack,Why do you have a problem with players with terrible swings managing to get around in bogey because they keep it out of trouble? Maybe it takes more skill to hit a 290 yard fade around a dogleg, but a terrible swing that repeats consistently enough to get a guy in play on every hole to manage a bogey requires some skills as well. Skills a lot of us long hitting 5 handicappers who occasionally find ourselves in places only Seve has seen wish we had!Golf is about getting the ball in the hole in the fewest number of strokes possible, there are no style points. If you want that sort of game, maybe you need to invent something played on a driving range with judges scoring it like ice skating. You aren't wrong that there should be a variety of slopes out there, the problem we have is that there aren't -- there really aren't any courses that are challenging for a scratch player to score par on that aren't more difficult for a bogey player to shoot bogey on. At least I haven't ever seen a single example of a course that rates higher than its par but slopes less than 113.