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Pete Buczkowski

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What are the GCA deal breakers for a new course?
« on: March 14, 2005, 02:22:39 PM »
I am constantly amazed at the comments thrown the way of new designs before they even open.  So please enlighten me - what are the deal breakers that ensures a course is panned before it even opens?  I want to join in on the fun.  For instance, I know waterfalls are an instant deal breaker, no matter how good the course turns out.  I just learned that over manicuring a resort course in a beautiful setting is another deal breaker.  And any new course being built in Florida with housing...unless C&C are doing it.

Are there any others I should know about...
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JakaB

Re:What are the GCA deal breakers for a new course?
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2005, 02:24:54 PM »
It can't be credible if they charge $25 or less to play...
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Pete Buczkowski

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Re:What are the GCA deal breakers for a new course?
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2005, 02:31:30 PM »
I was just reminded of another one: a 3-D model of the property in the clubhouse.
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JakaB

Re:What are the GCA deal breakers for a new course?
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2005, 03:03:54 PM »
Quote from: Pete Buczkowski on March 14, 2005, 02:31:30 PM
I was just reminded of another one: a 3-D model of the property in the clubhouse.

I remember saying something about that course before we played it....and I remember my opinion was based on the 3-D model....but....it was not the model itself that pissed me off...and I will admit that the course presented itself better while playing...but I did play well..so..I will not come out against all 3-D models but I will take a firm stance against 3-D models that are for the primary purpose of selling real estate....oh btw....what was it I said anyway..
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Sean_A

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Re:What are the GCA deal breakers for a new course?
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2005, 04:01:22 PM »
The only deal breaker I can think of is privacy.  Rif raf like me are persona non gratis.  Huh?

Ciao

Sean
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John Kirk

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Re:What are the GCA deal breakers for a new course?
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2005, 05:36:16 PM »
Stone Eagle has a 3-D model of the property in the business office trailer.  And the GCA geeks are going to like that one.  So that's a definite deal breaker.

These days houses are a deal breaker for me.  Oooooo I'm getting picky!
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cary lichtenstein

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Re:What are the GCA deal breakers for a new course?
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2005, 05:36:59 PM »
Certain architects are deal breakers

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Live Jupiter, Fl, was  4 handicap, played top 100 US, top 75 World. Great memories, no longer play, 4 back surgeries. I don't miss a lot of things about golf, life is simpler with out it. I miss my 60 degree wedge shots, don't miss nasty weather, icing, back spasms. Last course I played was Augusta

Tyler Kearns

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Re:What are the GCA deal breakers for a new course?
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2005, 05:51:45 PM »
Pete,

Waterfalls?
Not necessarily bad, with the caveat that they are only concocted by Mother Nature!!

TK
« Last Edit: March 14, 2005, 05:52:29 PM by Tyler Kearns »
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A.G._Crockett

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Re:What are the GCA deal breakers for a new course?
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2005, 10:10:49 PM »
Pete,
The location of the course in or near Myrtle Beach would be one for many here.  Disney may well be another.

Go Heels!
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Bill Gayne

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Re:What are the GCA deal breakers for a new course?
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2005, 10:36:16 PM »
I don't have any hard and fast deal breakers. I'm open to giving most any golf course a try at least once.
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Evan Fleisher

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Re:What are the GCA deal breakers for a new course?
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2005, 08:47:04 AM »
Quote from: Tyler Kearns on March 14, 2005, 05:51:45 PM
Pete,

Waterfalls?
Not necessarily bad, with the caveat that they are only concocted by Mother Nature!!

TK

Agreed! The Princeville Prince course hole #13 comes directly to mind...awesome hole framed by a natural waterfall behind.  Does it get any better for that "feature style" of hole?
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