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GolfClubAtlas.com => Golf Course Architecture => Topic started by: Ran Morrissett on April 12, 2003, 02:56:06 PM

Title: Trees on the inside of the dogleg 13th
Post by: Ran Morrissett on April 12, 2003, 02:56:06 PM
If you were the czar at ANGC, how many trees would you cut on the inside of the dogleg on the 13th hole (i.e. to the left of the creek)?

None? Several? Or would you opt to cut a # of trees away from the creek and up the bank?

I ask because the trees overhanging the creek certainly seem to wall off flirting with the creek during the flight of the tee ball. Would it be more tempting/taunting if the golfer had the option of either using the right to left topography AND/OR taking a more direct/aggressive line off the tee? Also, if the trees were down, would the golfer's eye be lured left, thus perhaps making it harder to steer the tee ball away from the creek?

By chance, does anyone have some b&w pics of how the tee shot looked/played in the 1930s?

Cheers,
Title: Re: Trees on the inside of the dogleg 13th
Post by: Patrick_Mucci on April 12, 2003, 03:36:02 PM
Ran,

I would prune the trees such that the drip line was in the interior line of the vertical extension of the creek.
Title: Re: Trees on the inside of the dogleg 13th
Post by: ian on April 12, 2003, 05:28:59 PM
Pat, Thats not prunning. Their trunks are at the bank of the creek, trees aren't fond of losing half their branches in one go. Why not just remove some along the edge and not take the chicken's answer of prune em' up.

Ran, Could doing this make the shot too easy by eliminating the need to sling the ball around the corner? Never been there so I ask you.
Title: Re: Trees on the inside of the dogleg 13th
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on April 12, 2003, 05:32:12 PM
Ran,
I like the Sam Snead story wherein the young player asked him how he played the hole. Snead said " I used to cut the corner by taking it over the trees on 13". When the young player tried, failed, then asked Snead how he was able to do it he replied "those trees were a lot smaller in my day".

If they've lengthened the hole maybe they should cut down the big trees and plant some smaller ones?
Title: Re: Trees on the inside of the dogleg 13th
Post by: Patrick_Mucci on April 12, 2003, 05:37:43 PM
Ian Andrew,

If no trees exist within the vertical line extending upward from the interior margin of the creek, what difference does it make what you call the process ?  
Title: Re: Trees on the inside of the dogleg 13th
Post by: ian on April 12, 2003, 06:07:49 PM
Pat, what I'm saying is don't cut half of a tree away when the tree is in the way; just so you don't have to actually cut a tree down. Cut the tree down. The one behind will fill in the same area with all that new sunlight. Nothing worse than looking at the interior branching of a tree without any leaves on that side. That's butchery, that's a chicken greens committee.
Title: Re: Trees on the inside of the dogleg 13th
Post by: Patrick_Mucci on April 12, 2003, 06:11:07 PM
Ian Andrew,

You may want to reread the definition of prune.
Title: Re: Trees on the inside of the dogleg 13th
Post by: ian on April 12, 2003, 06:12:54 PM
A fruit used by older people to help keep a regular constitution. ;D
Title: Re: Trees on the inside of the dogleg 13th
Post by: Patrick_Mucci on April 12, 2003, 06:21:50 PM
Ian Andrew,

You're getting closer  ;D
Title: Re: Trees on the inside of the dogleg 13th
Post by: ian on April 12, 2003, 06:23:18 PM
Pat,

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D