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Title: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Steve_ Shaffer on November 12, 2022, 03:32:39 PM
Gary Koch and Roger Maltbie
https://golf.com/news/nbc-golf-broadcasts-replacing-two-voices-2023
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Steve_ Shaffer on November 12, 2022, 03:56:19 PM

Golfweek has confirmed that both Roger Maltbie and Gary Koch won’t be returning to broadcasts in 2023. The network told Maltbie and Koch the decision was made to “refresh” the team for the future.


https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2022/11/10/roger-maltbie-gary-koch-nbc-golf-channel-2023-broadcasts/
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Erik J. Barzeski on November 12, 2022, 06:09:57 PM
Maltbie was going to be gone this past year until Bones decided to jump back on the bag with JT.
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: John Kavanaugh on November 12, 2022, 07:09:05 PM
More Mystic Dunes.
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Matthew Rose on November 12, 2022, 08:48:32 PM
I was hoping one would be Paul Azinger.  ::)
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: John Kavanaugh on November 12, 2022, 09:14:57 PM
It’s the product.
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Tommy Williamsen on November 13, 2022, 12:34:10 AM
They are two very classy guys and were enjoyable to hear.
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Tom Fagerli on November 15, 2022, 11:23:42 AM
They are two very classy guys and were enjoyable to hear.
That they are. Roger is as good a guy to hang with as you will find.
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: V. Kmetz on November 16, 2022, 12:40:43 AM
At near 70, and sounding like perhaps they were ready to go anyway, it sounds like the "refresh" spoken of by NBC/GCh (usually corporate bs for the brilliance of a new broom) was, in this instance, cover because any change-out of two steady hands is going to be disruptive... but if this move was a force out or the like, then a fool's pox on NBC/GC


That said, if they wished to still be working in 2023, I can't think of a more easily purchased legitimacy and television branding than these two gents would be for LIV, especially if it wants to not die on the vine of Euro-40 somethings and the ex PGA greedsters, and earn an audience of American ears....while the attorney and consultant's billable hours whizz like a box fan.


But because I wish the rank spirit of LIV to be disemboweled I'm hoping they won't be that smart.
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: JMEvensky on November 16, 2022, 06:18:51 AM

That they are. Roger is as good a guy to hang with as you will find.



Agreed--and a beautifully rhythmical swing back in the day.


And since I choose to believe the story, bonus points for telling Jack Nicklaus to go f*ck himself about not smoking during The Memorial playoff.
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Ronald Montesano on November 16, 2022, 07:05:06 AM

Has anyone contributed something similar to this brilliant turn, about a golf course architect? Something along the lines of "but because I wish the rank architecture of xxx yyy to be disemboweled..."

But because I wish the rank spirit of LIV to be disemboweled I'm hoping they won't be that smart.
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: V. Kmetz on November 16, 2022, 09:58:02 AM
bonus points for telling Jack Nicklaus to go f*ck himself about not smoking during The Memorial playoff.


Really, bonus points? Agree, it's a trivial notice on my part but Bonus points?...couldn't have simply smiled, not complied and went about his business...or quipped to Jack, "I'll start quitting tomorrow, right now I'm addicted and busy."


At that point, Jack had probably only funneled 10 or 20 million to community and pedia-health (as opposed to the near 1 billion by today)...hadn't won his 18th major...or hosted an entire prize tournament very many years yet, hadn't had his mature Senior and post-playing career, so I guess he wasn't quite the man of respect he was to become.  But bonus points?


I have enjoyed Roger Maltlbie, his blue-collar carriage, his beer-and smokes, diner-special ethos and his work as a reporter, but that was not a highlight for him.   
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Rob Marshall on November 16, 2022, 10:14:49 AM

That they are. Roger is as good a guy to hang with as you will find.



Agreed--and a beautifully rhythmical swing back in the day.


And since I choose to believe the story, bonus points for telling Jack Nicklaus to go f*ck himself about not smoking during The Memorial playoff.


I find that story very hard to believe that he actually said "F off". Not to mention that Jack was a smoker on the course as were others.


Fun fact: Ball on the tee is Don Allen's. Great amateur player from Rochester NY. Played in I think, 4 masters. When he went to hit the tee shot he could see Hogan's feet but he was afraid to tell him to move. Popped it up and his caddie told him not to worry "You won't have to hit in front of Mr Hogan again the rest of the round."  Don recently passed away.


https://www.etsy.com/listing/709855757/ben-hogan-arnold-palmer-smoking-photo


https://www.amazon.com/Golf-Collectibles-Nicklaus-smoking-Picture/dp/B00O2MF3HW?th=1
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: JMEvensky on November 16, 2022, 10:24:51 AM

That they are. Roger is as good a guy to hang with as you will find.



Agreed--and a beautifully rhythmical swing back in the day.


And since I choose to believe the story, bonus points for telling Jack Nicklaus to go f*ck himself about not smoking during The Memorial playoff.


I find that story very hard to believe that he actually said "F off". Not to mention that Jack was a smoker on the course as were others.







I heard it from a friend who caddied on tour in the 70's and was standing 20 feet away--believe whatever makes you happy.


Nicklaus quit smoking in the 60's, about the same time as Arnold Palmer.
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Tim Martin on November 16, 2022, 10:59:23 AM
I’ve always been a fan of Maltbie and will miss his insightful commentary. He embodied a less is more style which I found refreshing.



Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Pat Burke on November 17, 2022, 03:40:38 PM
I played in the last group (first time) at Bay Hill one year.


I will never forget Roger coming up to me before the round to talk with me (personally) to offer some advice for an overwhelming day.


On the 8th hole he snuck up next to me to tell me to slow down and enjoy it more


He’s a good man
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Jeff Schley on November 17, 2022, 05:11:46 PM
I liked both guys although when Johnny Miller left they didn't play off each other nearly as well on a broadcast. Liked the mix with Miller. I liked Bones before he left to go back looping.  Notah Begay is just ok. I like Justin Leonard.  Azinger I can do without. Feherty is gone.
Who is going to take up the mantle now?
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Kalen Braley on November 17, 2022, 05:27:42 PM
I liked both guys although when Johnny Miller left they didn't play off each other nearly as well on a broadcast. Liked the mix with Miller. I liked Bones before he left to go back looping.  Notah Begay is just ok. I like Justin Leonard.  Azinger I can do without. Feherty is gone.
Who is going to take up the mantle now?


Its wide open across all broadcast groups for golf and seems odd there is nothing compelling now or on the horizon, especially given that other sports don't have this problem, at least not the NBA or NFL, (I don't follow NHL and very little MLB).

P.S. Nantz is retiring from college basketball games after this season, could be soon he'll call it quits overall.
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Erik J. Barzeski on November 17, 2022, 05:51:24 PM
P.S. Nantz is retiring from college basketball games after this season, could be soon he'll call it quits overall.
I think he'll keep doing golf for a long time, and the Masters for awhile after that.
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voicese
Post by: Ira Fishman on November 17, 2022, 08:21:13 PM
P.S. Nantz is retiring from college basketball games after this season, could be soon he'll call it quits overall.
I think he'll keep doing golf for a long time, and the Masters for awhile after that.


“Return to glory” was completely contrived. The producers telling Faldo and him to stay silent was brilliant. Unfortunately, the silence did not last long enough.



Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Steve Lang on November 18, 2022, 09:24:06 AM
 ;)  I like Roger's quips about LIV stuff, he understands the money and best of all... “Why all of a sudden are golfers the moral compass of the world?


amen Roger
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Jim_Coleman on November 18, 2022, 10:38:34 AM
I played in the last group (first time) at Bay Hill one year.


I will never forget Roger coming up to me before the round to talk with me (personally) to offer some advice for an overwhelming day.


On the 8th hole he snuck up next to me to tell me to slow down and enjoy it more


He’s a good man


   That’s a nice story.
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Tommy Williamsen on November 18, 2022, 11:22:42 AM
I played in the last group (first time) at Bay Hill one year.


I will never forget Roger coming up to me before the round to talk with me (personally) to offer some advice for an overwhelming day.


On the 8th hole he snuck up next to me to tell me to slow down and enjoy it more


He’s a good man


   That’s a nice story.


It demonstrates the inherent goodness of the man.
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Tim Leahy on November 19, 2022, 03:03:50 AM

That they are. Roger is as good a guy to hang with as you will find.



Agreed--and a beautifully rhythmical swing back in the day.


And since I choose to believe the story, bonus points for telling Jack Nicklaus to go f*ck himself about not smoking during The Memorial playoff.


I find that story very hard to believe that he actually said "F off". Not to mention that Jack was a smoker on the course as were others.







I heard it from a friend who caddied on tour in the 70's and was standing 20 feet away--believe whatever makes you happy.


Nicklaus quit smoking in the 60's, about the same time as Arnold Palmer.
I witnessed Nicklaus smoking on the course at a practice round at Riviera in the early 90's.
Nicklaus lost all credibility and class when he endorsed comrade Trumpsky for president in 2020. Wonder if he's still on that losing bandwagon. ;D
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Steve_ Shaffer on November 19, 2022, 05:03:21 PM
'Hurt feelings and gratitude': Roger Maltbie dishes on NBC dismissal, defends LIV pros (https://link.golf.com/click/29741890.498127/aHR0cHM6Ly9nb2xmLmNvbS9uZXdzL3JvZ2VyLW1hbHRiaWUtZGlzaGVzLW5iYy1kaXNtaXNzYWwvP3V0bV9jYW1wYWlnbj1mb3JlY2FzdCZ1dG1fc291cmNlPWdvbGYuY29tJnV0bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWwmdXRtX2NvbnRlbnQ9e2RhdGUo/5b3546942ddf9c023879fd21C8514a9ed)
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Earlier this week, Roger Maltbie shed more light on his departure from an NBC post that he held for more than three decades.     



https://golf.com/news/roger-maltbie-dishes-nbc-dismissal
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Mark Kiely on December 03, 2022, 01:16:14 AM
Brad Faxon and Smylie Kaufman hired by NBC today. I like it!
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Cliff Hamm on December 03, 2022, 03:58:13 PM
Might not like the Faxon choice if you enjoyed playing at Metacomet in Rhode Island…
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Kalen Braley on December 03, 2022, 05:15:43 PM
Might not like the Faxon choice if you enjoyed playing at Metacomet in Rhode Island…


A "refresh" to bring in a 61 year old Faxon...  ::)
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: David Kelly on December 03, 2022, 11:51:26 PM
Don't watch much golf on TV but I always enjoyed Maltbie.  Gary "That's right, Johnny" Koch, not so much.  I don't think announcers bring much to the table in any sport other than baseball.
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Kalen Braley on December 04, 2022, 01:44:40 PM

Don't watch much golf on TV but I always enjoyed Maltbie.  Gary "That's right, Johnny" Koch, not so much.  I don't think announcers bring much to the table in any sport other than baseball.

You must not watch Basketball then, there are some terrific crews at both the college and NBA level.  And Jim Nantz with Tony Romo is pretty good combo for NFL games.


But the NBA on TNT with Charles, Ernie, Kenny, and Shaq is the best sports commentary for any sport...bar none.
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: David Kelly on December 04, 2022, 07:54:27 PM

Don't watch much golf on TV but I always enjoyed Maltbie.  Gary "That's right, Johnny" Koch, not so much.  I don't think announcers bring much to the table in any sport other than baseball.

You must not watch Basketball then, there are some terrific crews at both the college and NBA level.  And Jim Nantz with Tony Romo is pretty good combo for NFL games.

I think Romo is pretty overrated.


Even though I grew up with Chick Hearn (and some guy named Lynn Shackelford) calling the Laker games and have been in a fantasy football league with the voice of an NBA team for over 20 years, I gave up on the NBA a few decades ago. Zero interest in it.
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Steve Lang on December 04, 2022, 07:59:11 PM
 8)  They need a real baritone announcer like Chris Schenkel who could do all sports, and even make the PBA presentations interesting...
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Matthew Rose on December 04, 2022, 08:58:26 PM
All of them need to go back to the less is more approach.

I mean, Pat Summerall. "Montana....... Rice....... touchdown".

Nobody wants to hear how many cliches you can fit into one sentence.
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Sean_A on December 05, 2022, 01:41:54 AM
Don't watch much golf on TV but I always enjoyed Maltbie.  Gary "That's right, Johnny" Koch, not so much.  I don't think announcers bring much to the table in any sport other than baseball.

I have a lot of time for Mickey Redmond and Ken Daniels for the Red Wings.

Ciao

Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Tim_Cronin on December 05, 2022, 03:48:39 AM
All of them need to go back to the less is more approach.

I mean, Pat Summerall. "Montana....... Rice....... touchdown".

Nobody wants to hear how many cliches you can fit into one sentence.


And Pat learned that from Ray Scott: "Starr .... Dowler ..... touchdown!"
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Jeff Schley on December 05, 2022, 10:27:50 AM
  Gary "That's right, Johnny" Koch, not so much.
That is funny.  Gary was like the Ed McMahon for Johnny Miller.  "Yes sir, you are correct sir."
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Peter Sayegh on December 05, 2022, 01:17:57 PM
Don't watch much golf on TV but I always enjoyed Maltbie.  Gary "That's right, Johnny" Koch, not so much.  I don't think announcers bring much to the table in any sport other than baseball.
+1
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Matthew Rose on December 05, 2022, 08:10:45 PM
Gary was okay. Better than most of them.

 :P
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Jeff Schley on December 06, 2022, 09:41:54 AM
Gary was okay. Better than most of them.

 :P
Man you guys love ribbing Gary.  That is also funny as I think his most iconic line I can recall.
Title: Re: NBC TV Golf replacing 2 long-time voices
Post by: Steve Lapper on December 06, 2022, 11:54:02 AM
All of them need to go back to the less is more approach.

I mean, Pat Summerall. "Montana....... Rice....... touchdown".

Nobody wants to hear how many cliches you can fit into one sentence.


Vs. Marty Glickman saying: "there goes Tucker Fredrickson running for 3-4 yds before being tackled for a 6 yd loss!"

And Pat learned that from Ray Scott: "Starr .... Dowler ..... touchdown!"