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Title: Far Flung
Post by: Wade Whitehead on August 03, 2022, 09:23:28 PM
There are courses on six continents and I know some of them are extremely remote.

What's the most isolated place you've played golf?

WW
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Jeff_Brauer on August 03, 2022, 09:28:35 PM
I've played in Indonesia and Malaysia.  England, Ireland, Scotland, and Spain in Europe.  All the famous ones in Australia and a few others.


I forget I also played in Singapore, Canada, and the Philipines.  The course in the Philipines was pretty far out of Manilla, and would be the only one I would consider remote.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Rob Marshall on August 03, 2022, 09:31:55 PM
Hawaii and Ireland…far but not remote.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Pete_Pittock on August 03, 2022, 10:43:45 PM
I thought this was going to be an OT thread on club tossing.
I've logged about 500 and the most remote was Christmas Valley in the middle of southeast Oregon. Must be a homey,
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Tyler Kearns on August 03, 2022, 11:14:35 PM
As a kid from the Canadian prairies, Barnbougle Dunes is the most remote golf course I've played.


Tyler
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: ward peyronnin on August 04, 2022, 09:14:05 AM
Ballyliffin
No one around and we played a fivesome with the caddie capt and his harem of four middle aged women members.
Other than the total paucity of shrubbery it worked great
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Tom_Doak on August 04, 2022, 10:01:24 AM
Wow, I don't know how to define this.  Away from people, or away from other golf courses?


If it's away from people, then somewhere like Dismal River or Cape Wickham might be in the mix.


If it's away from other golf courses, then it's gotta be Magellanes GC in Punta Arenas, near the south tip of Chile.  Although I guess Lofoten Links in Norway would give that a run for its money.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Adam Lawrence on August 04, 2022, 10:45:47 AM
Yeah, I think Lofoten is the most remote place I've played. Askernish feels like the end of the world but it's only 45 minutes by plane from Glasgow. Cape Breton Highlands has a bit of that 'end of the world' feel too.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Ira Fishman on August 04, 2022, 11:16:03 AM
Away from people (both in reality and psychologically): Primland.


I Cannot Believe There is a Course Here: Mt. Massive. Talk about carry at high altitudes.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Pete_Pittock on August 04, 2022, 11:20:06 AM
When I had a rusty bucket list the top position was Coober Pedy, but I never had the remotest chance, geographically.
Come to think of it I may have been about 7 miles away, but that was on an airplane from Adelaide to Uluru.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Thomas Dai on August 04, 2022, 11:42:32 AM
Nuuk?
Atb
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Tom_Doak on August 05, 2022, 07:26:25 AM

Nuuk?



Have you been there?  That's on my bucket list.


Stanley GC in the Falklands is another very remote spot I haven't been to.  And I think there is a course on Diego Garcia?


The one that Coore & Crenshaw built in Indonesia looks. pretty hard to get to.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Thomas Dai on August 05, 2022, 08:10:58 AM
Nuuk?
Have you been there?  That's on my bucket list.
Stanley GC in the Falklands is another very remote spot I haven't been to.  And I think there is a course on Diego Garcia?
The one that Coore & Crenshaw built in Indonesia looks. pretty hard to get to.
Nuuk, no, wouldn’t mind though. Same with Port Stanley.
There are a couple of courses on the Azores, one laid out by Mackenzie Ross.
Lord Howe Island west of Aussie has a course. So to do St Helena and Ascension Island in the South Atlantic. Believe the Chatham Isles west of NZ has a course although I’m not sure of the quality of some of the latter.
Atb
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Joe_Tucholski on August 05, 2022, 11:50:51 AM
Thule, Greenland (not a real course) and then over 9,000 miles away in Tasmania.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Doug Bolls on August 05, 2022, 12:14:20 PM
Ira - My son and I played Mt Massive in Colorado a couple of weeks ago.  They claim to be the highest elevation golf course in North America - 10,152 feet is what it says on their pin flags.  We both found it a challenge to operate at that altitude - fortunately we had a bottle of compressed oxygen that helped us through the round.
Mt Massive GC is close to Leadville in remote Colorado - it was a little over an hour from where we were staying in Silverthorn, CO.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: jeffwarne on August 05, 2022, 12:35:12 PM
None really that remote-just feel that way.
Durness Scotland
Traigh GC Scotland(feels remote)
Connemara Isles-(feels remote)

Oreti Sands, NZ (NLE  :'( )
Spey Bay, Scotland
King Island GC Tasmania
Tarraleah GC Tasmania
North Haven, Maine (hour and 10 minute ferry)
The Machrie-before current ownership

Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Ira Fishman on August 05, 2022, 02:08:49 PM
Ira - My son and I played Mt Massive in Colorado a couple of weeks ago.  They claim to be the highest elevation golf course in North America - 10,152 feet is what it says on their pin flags.  We both found it a challenge to operate at that altitude - fortunately we had a bottle of compressed oxygen that helped us through the round.
Mt Massive GC is close to Leadville in remote Colorado - it was a little over an hour from where we were staying in Silverthorn, CO.


Doug,


My Sister lives in Leadville which is why we have played Mt. Massive. If you think golf is tough, check out the long distance bike and running races that people flock there for.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Tommy Williamsen on August 05, 2022, 02:32:03 PM
People have said to me, “Tommy your nuts.” I’ll come back from someplace. While there I will have driven hours to play some obscure course. When we were in South Africa, we took a side trip to Lesotho, and I played Maseru GC.

I was with my assistant in Madagascar and told him to drive to the golf club in Antsirabe and its sand greens.

My wife and I were in Victoria Falls, Zimbabwe and had our driver bring us to Elephant Hills GC.

We were in Israel and went from Capernaum, the home of Jesus to Caesarea where we played the only course in the country.

We just returned from Norway where we wandered inside the Arctic Circle and played Lofoten Links.

Except for Lofoten Links, the other courses were not very memorable but it sure is fun to do.
So I know some of you have gone way off the beaten path.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Adam Lawrence on August 05, 2022, 03:38:48 PM
Tommy — was Caesarea any good? My late friend Richard Wax was very deeply involved with that project.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Tommy Williamsen on August 05, 2022, 04:38:18 PM
Tommy — was Caesarea any good? My late friend Richard Wax was very deeply involved with that project.


There were a few things interesting about the project. Dye was told to move the corridor to include some expensive homes so they could have golf course frontage. The corridors off the tee were very wide and playable. There are some forced carries off the tee, however. From the  players I observed, there are not many "accomplished" players. Most are still learning the game. The shots into the greens are demanding. Many of the greens are very small and are well bunkered.


I enjoyed the course. Conditioning was spotty. It is a good test but won't beat up the higher handicapper.


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Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Tommy Williamsen on August 05, 2022, 04:40:21 PM
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Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Wayne_Kozun on August 05, 2022, 04:41:01 PM
Why is there only one course in Israel?  I realize that much of the country is arid and water is an issue, but so are many other places in the ME that have golf courses.  And I have to think that there are lots of people living in Israel who were long time golfers in America,  the UK, Canada, Australia, etc.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Tommy Williamsen on August 05, 2022, 04:53:36 PM
Why is there only one course in Israel?  I realize that much of the country is arid and water is an issue, but so are many other places in the ME that have golf courses.  And I have to think that there are lots of people living in Israel who were long time golfers in America,  the UK, Canada, Australia, etc.


Good question. I asked the pro that same question. His answer not mine was that the game is not deeply rooted in the Jewish culture. The course was full the day I played it. 80% of the players walked. The Dye course was a complete redesign of a course that had been there. From what I heard there is another course on the drawing board.


The Maccabiah games were held recently. The winning score for three rounds was 229. He won by 8 shots.

Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Tom_Doak on August 05, 2022, 04:57:12 PM
Why is there only one course in Israel?  I realize that much of the country is arid and water is an issue, but so are many other places in the ME that have golf courses.  And I have to think that there are lots of people living in Israel who were long time golfers in America,  the UK, Canada, Australia, etc.


I had a call from someone years ago who wanted to build a golf course there in sand dunes close to the seaside.


I had some concerns about whether that was a safe destination for my associates, so I sent an email to Tom Friedmann, the former Middle East correspondent for the NYT, who is also a golfer and occasional golf writer.  His response:  "Make sure it's not within mortar range of the Gaza strip."


So, as soon as they achieve peace in the region, I will have a great course to build.  :D


NOTE:  I did get another call recently about a project somewhere over there, but it was pretty vague as to the specifics.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Tommy Williamsen on August 05, 2022, 05:04:29 PM
Why is there only one course in Israel?  I realize that much of the country is arid and water is an issue, but so are many other places in the ME that have golf courses.  And I have to think that there are lots of people living in Israel who were long time golfers in America,  the UK, Canada, Australia, etc.


I had a call from someone years ago who wanted to build a golf course there in sand dunes close to the seaside.


I had some concerns about whether that was a safe destination for my associates, so I sent an email to Tom Friedmann, the former Middle East correspondent for the NYT, who is also a golfer and occasional golf writer.  His response:  "Make sure it's not within mortar range of the Gaza strip."


So, as soon as they achieve peace in the region, I will have a great course to build.  :D


NOTE:  I did get another call recently about a project somewhere over there, but it was pretty vague as to the specifics.


I realize there are serious problems in the area that cannot be overlooked. But in our two weeks there and in Jordan we never felt unsafe.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Mark Fedeli on August 05, 2022, 05:07:50 PM
I find that remoteness — as in, the course being located far from civilization and other courses and, as a result, a relative few people journey to it — directly increases my enjoyment of the course. If I had my own ranking criteria, remoteness alone would be worth quite a bit.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Wayne_Kozun on August 05, 2022, 05:36:42 PM
Remoteness is great, but the opposite can also be very enjoyable.  I love the courses in Scotland where you begin and end the round in the centre of town - like St Andrews, North Berwick, Gullane, etc.  Lorne Rubenstein just wrote about this.
https://scoregolf.com/opinion/lorne-rubenstein/rounds-about-town/
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Mark Fedeli on August 05, 2022, 05:41:48 PM
Remoteness is great, but the opposite can also be very enjoyable.  I love the courses in Scotland where you begin and end the round in the centre of town - like St Andrews, North Berwick, Gullane, etc.  Lorne Rubenstein just wrote about this.
https://scoregolf.com/opinion/lorne-rubenstein/rounds-about-town/ (https://scoregolf.com/opinion/lorne-rubenstein/rounds-about-town/)


Indeed! I forgot to mention that my rankings will also favor heavily one's ability to walk from their accommodation to the first tee.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Kalen Braley on August 05, 2022, 06:33:59 PM
I've gotta think the course in Foulpointe, Madagascar must have a place on this list somewhere...
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Pete_Pittock on August 05, 2022, 07:02:58 PM
I've gotta think the course in Foulpointe, Madagascar must have a place on this list somewhere...
the imaginary course
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Sam Morrow on August 05, 2022, 07:23:49 PM
There are courses on six continents and I know some of them are extremely remote.

What's the most isolated place you've played golf?

WW


Blackjack Crossing at Lajitas Resort in Big Bend is a place you have to wanna go. Several hours from the nearest interstate and nearby Terlingua is known as place for folks who wanna live off the grid or dissapear from society.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Tommy Williamsen on August 05, 2022, 07:56:28 PM
I've gotta think the course in Foulpointe, Madagascar must have a place on this list somewhere...
the imaginary course


There really is a Foulpointe Golf Club in Madagascar. It is nine holes. It just isn’t the one that was made up for fun years ago on this site.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Pete_Pittock on August 05, 2022, 08:29:23 PM
Tommy,
I try and learn something new eacjh day, Mission accomplished.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Pete_Pittock on August 05, 2022, 08:37:57 PM
There are courses on six continents and I know some of them are extremely remote.

What's the most isolated place you've played golf?
WW
Blackjack Crossing at Lajitas Resort in Big Bend is a place you have to wanna go. Several hours from the nearest interstate and nearby Terlingua is known as place for folks who wanna live off the grid or dissapear from society.
Sam,
Played there a number of years ago when we had the Wolf Point outing. It didn't seem remote, considering I drove from Oregon.
The day before I played in Amarillo, the day after in El Paso. Terlingua has resorts and an international chili cookoff-actually two of them. I enjoyed the course and it was in good+ condition.
In the US I still think Christmas Valley (OR) is the most isolated with little but sand, sagebrush and wind. The nearest "cities" are over a 100 miles away in all directions. 

Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Tommy Williamsen on August 05, 2022, 08:59:17 PM
Sometimes it is just fun to find a course and play it. My wife and I were driving in remote Wyoming and found a little nine hole course just off the road. We played a quick nine and had a burger. Great fun. I don’t remember the name of course or the town anymore. I do have the scorecard in my collection but it would take work to find it.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Tom_Doak on August 05, 2022, 09:09:32 PM
Sometimes it is just fun to find a course and play it. My wife and I were driving in remote Wyoming and found a little nine hole course just off the road. We played a quick nine and had a burger. Great fun. I don’t remember the name of course or the town anymore. I do have the scorecard in my collection but it would take work to find it.


I did this a couple of weeks ago.  I have been driving back and forth from Traverse City to Sand Valley via the Mackinac Bridge, and I kept driving past the entrance to a place called the "Hiawatha Sporting Club".  From the entry you'd guess it was back in a cedar swamp.  But I needed a break from driving on my last trip home, and stopped in.  The course is a mile or two back from the road, and it's nine holes on high ground with views to the north / east.  It was definitely worth the detour.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Sam Morrow on August 05, 2022, 11:40:35 PM
There are courses on six continents and I know some of them are extremely remote.

What's the most isolated place you've played golf?
WW
Blackjack Crossing at Lajitas Resort in Big Bend is a place you have to wanna go. Several hours from the nearest interstate and nearby Terlingua is known as place for folks who wanna live off the grid or dissapear from society.
Sam,
Played there a number of years ago when we had the Wolf Point outing. It didn't seem remote, considering I drove from Oregon.
The day before I played in Amarillo, the day after in El Paso. Terlingua has resorts and an international chili cookoff-actually two of them. I enjoyed the course and it was in good+ condition.
In the US I still think Christmas Valley (OR) is the most isolated with little but sand, sagebrush and wind. The nearest "cities" are over a 100 miles away in all directions.


Oregon to Texas by car sounds like a fantastic trip!
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: JohnVDB on August 06, 2022, 01:46:24 AM
I hit some remote ones while course rating in Oregon and Western Pennsylvania


Oregon was probably Fossil which is a 6-hole course in Eastern Oregon


PA was Coudersport GC.


In Scotland it has to be Durness
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Sean_A on August 06, 2022, 03:30:18 AM
Why is there only one course in Israel?  I realize that much of the country is arid and water is an issue, but so are many other places in the ME that have golf courses.  And I have to think that there are lots of people living in Israel who were long time golfers in America,  the UK, Canada, Australia, etc.


I had a call from someone years ago who wanted to build a golf course there in sand dunes close to the seaside.


I had some concerns about whether that was a safe destination for my associates, so I sent an email to Tom Friedmann, the former Middle East correspondent for the NYT, who is also a golfer and occasional golf writer.  His response:  "Make sure it's not within mortar range of the Gaza strip."


So, as soon as they achieve peace in the region, I will have a great course to build.  :D


NOTE:  I did get another call recently about a project somewhere over there, but it was pretty vague as to the specifics.


I realize there are serious problems in the area that cannot be overlooked. But in our two weeks there and in Jordan we never felt unsafe.

You don't feel unsafe until you are unsafe. Although, I never felt at ease in Israel. Such a high presence of troops in daily life made me feel unsafe. And a bomb did explode in Tel Aviv when I was there. A bomb also exploded in Marrakesh a week after I was there. Unlike Israel, I never had a sense of danger.

Ciao
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Thomas Dai on August 06, 2022, 03:50:54 AM
U.K. - there’s Isles of Scilly GC off the tip of Cornwall while north of the Scottish mainland there are several courses on the Orkney and Shetland Isles.
There’s also the Lighthouse keepers course on Fair Isle - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cJH-1Borth4 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cJH-1Borth4)
The Faroe Isles have a course too.
Atb
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Tim Leahy on August 06, 2022, 04:57:14 AM
There is a course in Fall River, CA, Fall River Valley Golf and CC in the far NE of the state. 4hr drive from Sacramento and 2 1/2 hours from Chico and I have never played there because it's too remote but it used to be one of the toughest rated courses in CA. Quite a history too. Bing Crosby and Clint Eastwood supposedly flew up there by small plane to hunt, fish and golf away from the crowds. Anybody play there? Seems really remote and I have never met anyone who's been there. ???
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Matthew Rose on August 06, 2022, 10:44:06 AM
In North America, Ballyneal.

In Australia, probably either Mt. Gambier Golf Club or Bright Golf Club.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: jeffwarne on August 06, 2022, 11:15:40 AM
Sometimes it is just fun to find a course and play it. My wife and I were driving in remote Wyoming and found a little nine hole course just off the road. We played a quick nine and had a burger. Great fun. I don’t remember the name of course or the town anymore. I do have the scorecard in my collection but it would take work to find it.



This.
My non golfer wife could write her own Confidential Guide to the courses she's "played" en route to places  with my teed steelhead 5 wood, my 9 iron and my putter.

Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Tommy Williamsen on August 06, 2022, 12:22:51 PM
Why is there only one course in Israel?  I realize that much of the country is arid and water is an issue, but so are many other places in the ME that have golf courses.  And I have to think that there are lots of people living in Israel who were long time golfers in America,  the UK, Canada, Australia, etc.


I had a call from someone years ago who wanted to build a golf course there in sand dunes close to the seaside.


I had some concerns about whether that was a safe destination for my associates, so I sent an email to Tom Friedmann, the former Middle East correspondent for the NYT, who is also a golfer and occasional golf writer.  His response:  "Make sure it's not within mortar range of the Gaza strip."


So, as soon as they achieve peace in the region, I will have a great course to build.  :D


NOTE:  I did get another call recently about a project somewhere over there, but it was pretty vague as to the specifics.


I realize there are serious problems in the area that cannot be overlooked. But in our two weeks there and in Jordan we never felt unsafe.

You don't feel unsafe until you are unsafe.

Ciao


Obviously, but that could be anywhere people congregate. I wonder how many children in the US feel unsafe.
Title: Re: Far Flung
Post by: Kalen Braley on August 06, 2022, 01:34:49 PM
I found a new remote course in Utah that i'm going to visit in October.  I hope it lives up to hidden gem designation, but it looks really interesting and quirky and never been mentioned on this site, at least its name didn't come up in the forum search history.