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GolfClubAtlas.com => Golf Course Architecture => Topic started by: Sven Nilsen on January 06, 2022, 11:46:31 AM
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Posted below is a 1937 image of a course built by a famous architect, but perhaps not in his usual environment. I'd give more clues but I think there's enough detail in the image to give you all something to chew on. Any guesses?
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/cc435/snilsen7/Wrigley_Miniature_Aerial_-_1937.png?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://photobucket.com/u/snilsen7/a/acf16c8f-790e-4e37-bce1-74b1fd7e6a8b/p/d65633e8-4718-4172-8f93-e178a5dc9fe8)
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Very intriguing pic, Sven.
I don't know the answer but would guess the archie is either Dev Emmet or Herb Strong.
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Oh wait...is it East Potomac Park?
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Is it a Bell course? Looks very ambitious in its bunkering scheme.
Is it NLE?
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I assume it is NLE? I can only make out 6 or 7 greens. Is it a 9-holer?
Cheers
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Oh wait...is it East Potomac Park?
No. You'd see the river.
It looks like nine holes, with an alternate set of tees and several alternate fairways to boot. But I don't recognize it. There are surely a lot of bunkers for nine greens!
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It looks like nine holes, with an alternate set of tees and several alternate fairways to boot. But I don't recognize it. There are surely a lot of bunkers for nine greens!
Which makes me wonder if it was an estate course. The amount of bunkers made me think of Hollywood, so I'll hazard a guess that it's a Travis design on someone's estate.
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no idea. But "chew on", if that is a clue, leads me to Hollywood or Broadway.
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It looks like nine holes, with an alternate set of tees and several alternate fairways to boot. But I don't recognize it. There are surely a lot of bunkers for nine greens!
Which makes me wonder if it was an estate course. The amount of bunkers made me think of Hollywood, so I'll hazard a guess that it's a Travis design on someone's estate.
Yes, the buildings to the right look like stables.
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Bunkering looks like the old aerial of Belvedere. Is it a William Watson design?
Bogey
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Ok wild guess thinking it has estate roots. Dupont Country Club.
(https://golf.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/dupont-square.jpg)
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Oh wait...is it East Potomac Park?
No. You'd see the river.
It looks like nine holes, with an alternate set of tees and several alternate fairways to boot. But I don't recognize it. There are surely a lot of bunkers for nine greens!
Tom,
I was thinking that perhaps Sven only showed us a segment of the course. I played there about 25 years ago and there is certainly a lot to recover and restore.
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The clustered bunkering stands out to me. However, I'm not learned enough to know whose style that might suggest.
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Culver Academy 9 holer by Langford & Moreau!???
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQSDWeFDPuOU_v1pgQJjXs71YmwqUgYFfIwvQ&usqp=CAU)
(http://www.maxinkuckee.history.pasttracker.com/cef_cma_golf/cma_golf1951.jpg)
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I'm finding more....... the photos below are 1951 and appear to show a remnant of a stable... which according to the Culver history fits!
1934 - Aug 8 - Academy Directors Formulate Plans.... The rebuilding of the Artillery stables was discussed... Golf Course to Benefit. In any event the stables will probably be located in the area ajancet to the arsenal and cavalry stables... This will make possible the elminiation not only of the barn that burned, but also of both of the old paddocks, so that the golf course can be converted to the appearance and purpose for which it was originally laid out...
http://www.maxinkuckee.history.pasttracker.com/cef_cma_golf/cma_colf_course.htm
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I will guess that it was on property owned by the Whitney family - perhaps on the 5,000 acre estate built for William C. Whitney near Wheatley Hills / Westbury, on Long Island.
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Was this in Pasadena by chance?
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My first instinct was also an estate course. Perhaps Pocantico Hills near Sleepy Hollow CC? What's left of the course also points to loads of bunkers
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kykuit,+the+Rockefeller+Estate/@41.090452,-73.8449531,700m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c2eaa46c9ca6e9:0x9b333ef31d3bb01!8m2!3d41.0896447!4d-73.8442915 (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kykuit,+the+Rockefeller+Estate/@41.090452,-73.8449531,700m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c2eaa46c9ca6e9:0x9b333ef31d3bb01!8m2!3d41.0896447!4d-73.8442915)
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no idea. But "chew on", if that is a clue, leads me to Hollywood or Broadway.
Something to chew on = Wrigley.
What are the courses that Wrigley commissioned?
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Seems like you all are getting a bit warmer.
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The only Wrigley course I know of is the Phoenix one (Adobe?). That doesn't seem right.
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It was pretty much in your backyard, Peter.
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Is it a Bell course? Looks very ambitious in its bunkering scheme.
Is it NLE?
Yes to both questions.
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Bringing back memories of the "Aerial of the Day" puzzlers by Scott Burroughs in the early days of GCA.
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Bringing back memories of the "Aerial of the Day" puzzlers by Scott Burroughs in the early days of GCA.
Pete:
Maybe we'll reprise something similar this winter. I do have around 800 images saved in my files.
Scott was probably much better at the clues. I'll have to work on that.
Seems like we should have a thread dedicated to aerials like we do for plans. There are a ton of great images floating around the back pages of the site that could use some cataloguing.
Sven
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Oops
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By backyard, are we talking Wisconsin, or more Barrington? The problem is that the Wrigleys had mansions everywhere.
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This is the Wrigley Estate Miniature Course at their compound on Lake Geneva. Built by William P. Bell in 1930, the course looks like it would have been a ton of fun to play.
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I see a reference to it as a "pitch and putt", but that really undersells it. Do you know exactly where it was located? Would be great if there were ground level photos.
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OK, I see where it was. South side of the lake, about 1.5 miles west of Lake Geneva CC.
There is a pretty prominent hill in the left center of the course. It's nearly 100 feet high.
(https://i.imgur.com/LDP1SAkl.jpg)
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Bringing back memories of the "Aerial of the Day" puzzlers by Scott Burroughs in the early days of GCA.
Never heard of him.
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Pete:
Scott was probably much better at the clues. I'll have to work on that.
Sven
Nonsense...."something to chew on" is exactly the kind of clue I would have given.
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Note to self - Do not guess future "Aerial of the Day(s)" based on viewing photos on my aging Samsung Note 8.
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I'm really fascinated by hole good the Wrigley pitch and putt looks in that aerial for something that I had never heard of.
There must be pics within the Wrigley family archives that show what this thing looked like.