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GolfClubAtlas.com => Golf Course Architecture => Topic started by: Mike H on October 04, 2021, 06:05:40 PM
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What courses are expected to open in 2022 and 2023? The ones that comes to mind are The Tree Farm, Landmand and Red Feather. What am I missing?
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The Lido (2023)
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Tieke Golf Estate which is a replacement for Lochiel Golf Club in Hamilton, NZ.
Te Arai Links, noth of Auckland.
A new nine holes at the Millbrook resort near Queenstown, NZ.
7 Mile Beach, Tasmania.
Arm End, Tasmania.
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Bar Run, a Dan Hixson course in Roseburg, OR. Par 70 with 6 par 3s, should open next summer
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In California,
Corica Park in Alameda in 2022.
Coachella Golf Club in 2022 or 2023.
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Coachella Golf Club??? Any details?
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Coachella Golf Club??? Any details?
First I'd heard of it, too. Google led me to the Original Design Projects/On the Drawing Board page of Gil Hanse's site with the only details being that it will be located in Thermal and construction is to begin this year.
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The PGA courses in Frisco
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Coachella Golf Club??? Any details?
First I'd heard of it, too. Google led me to the Original Design Projects/On the Drawing Board page of Gil Hanse's site with the only details being that it will be located in Thermal and construction is to begin this year.
That’s certainly a ghost development. Nothing in the local papers and nothing in the county planning department in the way of permits or plans.
There are some interesting developments that are being floated for Thermal. One is a surf (man made waves) resort with housing and the other is a housing development surrounding a race track. Car collectors could live there and race their toys on the track. No golf courses included in either.
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Lost Rail near Omaha.
https://www.lostrailgolf.com/
It should be a great place to visit and play when finished.
I had a very nice walking tour of the construction there on Monday after the Midwest Mashie with Dirk Chatelain and a short talk with the architect Scott Hoffman. It was a very busy site with a large crew rushing to finish various details.
I think the routing is quite good with a pleasant walk through rolling grounds.
There aren't any real traditional template holes like say Old Mac but it's a good mix.
Some challenge, some easy, with good transitions of grasses and hole types. Good views too.
https://www.lostrailgolf.com/routing-1
It seemed like the construction being done by Landscapes Unlimited is nearly complete and the course opening should happen early next season.
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2nd 18 at McArthur (Coore Crenshaw) and 'new 18' at Jonathan's Landing (Hanse), both in Jupiter/Hobe Sound area. Lots more on the drawing board in Hobe Sound.
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Park Mammoth in Ky. Not a "new" course, but basically a complete rebuild of an existing course. Pictures look promising. Be cool if it is has a Sweetens type atmosphere. Small town, no-name course, lesser known architects, etc
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Any news/updates on the Brambles course in NorCal?
https://www.golfcoursearchitecture.net/content/brambles-course-construction-on-track-for-2021-completion (https://www.golfcoursearchitecture.net/content/brambles-course-construction-on-track-for-2021-completion)
"Coming soon from Coore-Crenshaw"
https://www.cooreandcrenshaw.com/portfolio.html
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Wicker Point in Alabama. It's an hour south of Birmingham on Lake Martin. Next to Willow Point CC. Wicker will be a private club with some access for folks using on site accommodations.
Michael
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Coachella Golf Club??? Any details?
First I'd heard of it, too. Google led me to the Original Design Projects/On the Drawing Board page of Gil Hanse's site with the only details being that it will be located in Thermal and construction is to begin this year.
Correct it's a Gil Hanse course being built for Irving Azhoff the super agent for music stars. His partner is Eddy Cue the SVP of Apple. No homes, only 100 members and a couple of Casitas for guests.
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The one I'm really interested in is the redevelopment of the former municipal course, Lethamhill, in Glasgow. Scott MacPherson is the GCA and they have now started on site. To quote the press blurb;
"The project aims to redevelop the existing public course at Lethamhill to create a family-focussed venue that provides access to a nine-hole course, Par 3 course, putting greens, short-game area, adventure golf and a 25-bay floodlit driving range for visitors to enjoy a wide range of golf activities, including shorter forms of the sport."
I dare say it won't bring the tourists in from the US but then that's not the point of it. They are looking to be open summer 2022. Hopefully Scott can chime and let us know more of the plans.
Niall
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I'm not sure if Ballyshear Links by Hanse as inspired from the Lido course has opened this year or not. I can't find anything online as the site I used to link to isn't operating, not a good sign as they were selling memberships up until Covid.
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Cabot Saint Lucia is scheduled for 2022 (Cabot Revelstoke is 2024)
Sagebrush will officially reopen in 2022
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Hopefully Old Barnwell by '23 or soon after.
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How close to opening is Doak's course in Napa Valley?
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Bar Run, a Dan Hixson course in Roseburg, OR. Par 70 with 6 par 3s, should open next summer
Complete with a boomerang green, two biaritz greens, some redan like features, and a replica of "The Pit" from North Berwick. My nickname for the place is the East Links at South Berwick. ;)
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How close to opening is Doke's course in Napa Valley?
Doke?
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How close to opening is Doke's course in Napa Valley?
Doke?
As in Okey.
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How close to opening is Doak's course in Napa Valley?
Doke?
Fixed
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Hopefully Old Barnwell by '23 or soon after.
The plan is spring '23 for Old Barnwell. Some tree clearing finally begins on Friday.
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How close to opening is Doak's course in Napa Valley?
Doakgolf still has it listed for 2023.
Nope, see TD later post.
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Resorts World Catskills, Kiamesha Lake, NY (on the former Concord Resort property), scheduled to open Spring, 2022
https://www.flickr.com/photos/golfcoursepix/albums/72157719644319817 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/golfcoursepix/albums/72157719644319817)
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There is one in northern Colorado, RainDance by Harrison Minchew and Fred Funk.
https://raindancecolorado.com/raindance-golf/
Also the Hanse course in Nebraska, Caprock Ranch, https://www.caprockranch.com/
And one more in Jacksonville FL, Stillwater GC, by Bobby
Weed, perhaps in 2021. https://www.bobbyweed.com/2020/12/07/jax-daily-record-stillwater-to-feature-first-area-golf-course-to-be-built-in-more-than-15-years/
And the work on Dornick Hills in Oklahoma, https://www.ardmoreite.com/story/lifestyle/2020/11/17/dornick-hills-golf-course-undergo-3-2-million-restoration/6318602002/
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How close to opening is Doak's course in Napa Valley?
Doakgolf still has it listed for 2023.
I have not updated my site for a while. :-[
We have not been able to start the project in northern California yet due to ongoing permitting issues. I have not given up on it happening, because the client hasn't, but the best case is that it will START in 2023 and open in 2025.
For better news:
St Patrick's is open as of this summer.
The Lido will have preview play summer 2022 and be fully open in the spring of 2023.
The third course at Sand Valley will be about a year behind the Lido - we will start next spring.
Te Arai (North course) will be constructed in 2022 and open in late 2023.
I've also just signed up a new project in Florida that might open at the end of 2023.
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I've also just signed up a new project in Florida that might open at the end of 2023.
Are you able to say what part of Florida and whether it will be private or public?
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I've also just signed up a new project in Florida that might open at the end of 2023.
Are you able to say what part of Florida and whether it will be private or public?
This one is private and they prefer to fly under the radar a little while longer.
But I do have two other resort/public projects in Florida in the discussion stage.
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For the record, I have no projects under consideration.
To elaborate, I am not an architect, which explains #1.
Sorry to disappoint.
Sincerely, it is good to read of this many courses under construction or being reworked. All I see in western New York is trees coming down and Oncelers everywhere. Too much pavement.
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Abbey Springs, originally a Killian/Nugent from 1970 is being redoine by Bob Lohmann and Todd Quitno, per their web site. I think I played this course 40 years ago and it featured a par 4 literally going down a ski slope. But it could have been another Lake Geneva area course.
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What about Pacific Trails the Doak Par 3 course out in Bandon?
New River Dunes ... 2024
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What about Pacific Trails the Doak Par 3 course out in Bandon?
New River Dunes ... 2024
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2021/07/20/mike-keiser-bandon-dunes-new-courses-oregon/
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One of those in progress
https://www.instagram.com/p/CU-1hm0Ba5-/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CU-1hm0Ba5-/)
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What about Pacific Trails the Doak Par 3 course out in Bandon?
New River Dunes ... 2024
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2021/07/20/mike-keiser-bandon-dunes-new-courses-oregon/ (https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2021/07/20/mike-keiser-bandon-dunes-new-courses-oregon/)
As that article says, we don’t have a timetable for the par-3 course yet, since permits are pending. I would guess it’s more likely to happen next winter, rather than this coming winter, especially with my commitment to be in NZ for a couple of months this winter.
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I believe Caprock Ranch may be open already.
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Folks--
Our "Fescue" site (go to: fescue.github.io (http://fescue.github.io) ) lists 762 different projects worldwide that opened starting Jan 1 2020 or are projected to open after that date. This includes new, restorations, renovations etc. but not projects that do not entail work on golf courses (such as improvements to practice ranges etc). Number of new courses listed for 2021, 2022, and 2023 are 62, 71, and 27 respectively:
2021. 2022. 2023
Africa. 3. 1. 3
Asia. 28. 16. 5
AU/NZ. 4. 6. 2
Cont Eur. 5. 11. 3
GB&I. 1. 1. 1
Latin Am. 4. 9. 2
USA/Canada. 17. 27. 11
Total. 62. 71. 27
You can sort the listing by hitting the up/down arrows in the top row of "title boxes". Happy hunting!!
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I also ran across an interesting course/development called Wohali in Utah. I can't seem to find much on it other than the website.
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I also ran across an interesting course/development called Wohali in Utah. I can't seem to find much on it other than the website.
Looks like it'll be up north in the Park City area, not far from the 2 courses at Promontory. Says it going to be designed by David Boyden. I have the next couple days off, perhaps I'll take a drive over that way and see what I can see.
https://www.wohaliutah.com/theland
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Are the low new course opening no.'s for 2023 due in large part because there is still a lot of negotiating taking place getting contracts signed and permits approved for courses to be built between 2022 and and then? For example, were we to revisit this topic this time next year will the no. of projected new course openings for 2023 be substantially higher you think?
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Mike:
Honestly, the most difficult aspect of our business is we have no guarantees of when a project will start, and until it starts we are only guessing when it might open.
That being the case, I’m guessing the projected openings for 2022 and 2023 are all the courses where construction has already started. It’s quite possible that some other projects that start next spring (especially in southern latitudes) will open later in 2023, but there’s no point in trying to project that until they actually start.
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Tom:
Thanks for the input. I guess what I'm trying to assess is if the increase in the number of new courses opening in 2021 and 2022 is the direct result of increased player participation due to COVID, i.e. the COVID Bounce and whether it's a short-term or long-term trend? The precipitous drop in new course openings in 2023 compared to 2021 and 2022 would indicate the bounce being short-lived, unless there are a lot of courses that could potentially open in 2023 that none of us are aware of due to them not being announced and or under construction at this time.
Ultimately what I'm driving at is will there be an extended increase in new course development or a new course boom the likes we saw in the mid 90's to mid 2000's (Tiger effect) or is what we're seeing now a temporary reaction to the increased numbers of people playing golf since COVID?
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Anything opening this year or next year was already getting started when COVID hit. The downturn for 2023 is due to projects getting pushed back because of the pandemic. Any boom in construction as a result of 2020-21 popularity won’t show up until 2024.
Will there be a boom? Judging by the way my phone is ringing these days, yes. I don’t think it will ever go back to numbers like twenty years ago - that whole period was a fever dream, and it led to a crash. But my guess is you’ll see the number of new projects double or triple from the average of the past ten years. I have only built five new courses in the USA since Old Macdonald, but I could sign up five more today if I could control when they would all get built. (Not counting the four I’ve already committed to.)
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Anything opening this year or next year was already getting started when COVID hit. The downturn for 2023 is due to projects getting pushed back because of the pandemic. Any boom in construction as a result of 2020-21 popularity won’t show up until 2024.
Will there be a boom? Judging by the way my phone is ringing these days, yes. I don’t think it will ever go back to numbers like twenty years ago - that whole period was a fever dream, and it led to a crash. But my guess is you’ll see the number of new projects double or triple from the average of the past ten years. I have only built five new courses in the USA since Old Macdonald, but I could sign up five more today if I could control when they would all get built. (Not counting the four I’ve already committed to.)
How about building something in New England?
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Does a 6 Hole course qualify?
]John Fought to design six-hole golf course in Utah
City of Cedar Hills taps BYU Hall of Famer for new short loop
https://www.firstcallgolf.com/industry-news/release/2021-10-26/john-fought-to-design-six-hole-golf-course-in-utah (https://www.firstcallgolf.com/industry-news/release/2021-10-26/john-fought-to-design-six-hole-golf-course-in-utah)
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How about building something in New England?
I would love to build something in New England. Do you know somebody there with $$$$ burning a hole in their pocket?
Most of the calls lately have been from the south - Florida, Texas, South Carolina. And one in Kentucky.
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Tom;
Thanks for the follow-up reply and great to hear your phone's ringing off the hook. That's music to my ears. I agree we'll never see a boom in new course construction the like's that took place during the Tiger year's, but I'm encouraged to hear that the market is rife with opportunity. I'm hoping this trickles down to those that haven't been involved in new course construction for a period of time and that archie's that have been surviving on course renovations and restorations have a crack at building something from scratch again, as it's good for the health of the course architecture community. I'm excited to see the fruit this bears and the great courses that emerge as a result.
Don't get me wrong, while course renovations and restorations are great topics of discussion, I'm more excited to hear reports and stories of new courses being built that I and others hopefully can play. All the best to you and your fellow brethren that are dependent on new projects for their livelihood. I'm excited to see what the future holds. :)
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Folks--
Our "Fescue" site (go to: fescue.github.io (http://fescue.github.io) ) lists 762 different projects worldwide that opened starting Jan 1 2020 or are projected to open after that date. This includes new, restorations, renovations etc. but not projects that do not entail work on golf courses (such as improvements to practice ranges etc). Number of new courses listed for 2021, 2022, and 2023 are 62, 71, and 27 respectively:
2021. 2022. 2023
Africa. 3. 1. 3
Asia. 28. 16. 5
AU/NZ. 4. 6. 2
Cont Eur. 5. 11. 3
GB&I. 1. 1. 1
Latin Am. 4. 9. 2
USA/Canada. 17. 27. 11
Total. 62. 71. 27
You can sort the listing by hitting the up/down arrows in the top row of "title boxes". Happy hunting!!
Thanks Paul. Question would be how many new courses that are going to open are private vs. public? Also how many (if any) are municipal? While exciting that new courses are opening, many here (myself included) would love to see municipal golf proliferate as that is the cheapest access to our game. Young people and new golfers introduced to the game via these facilities is a big key as golf is expensive.
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You can add The Forrest 18 at Promontory Ranch Club UT to 2023 openings. We have the green light to begin this next year. 18 holes par 3.
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RainDance National in Windsor, CO
Fred Funk/Harrison Minchew
Resort with memberships
Golf course scheduled to open
Mid July 2022
All but a handful of tees (on three holes) are seeded And growing.
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You can add The Forrest 18 at Promontory Ranch Club UT to 2023 openings. We have the green light to begin this next year. 18 holes par 3.
ADDED! ;)
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This is not 2022 or 2023, but I read that the first course at Fall Line Club (central Georgia) would be open for play March of 2024. The second course is set to be open in 2025.